Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:11:30 -0800
Subject: Re: Help needed
Hello
Hopefully that's one of the nice things about this list is that if you
have a problem you can often get help in a lot of flavors to choose
from...
...Not that it sounds like you're the one with the problem, actually...
Someone already went right to the quick of what my instincts tell me, animal/
predatory things (I apologize to animals here)...
...I'd check your *mundane* health, some of the weakness implied when
humans veer toward cannibalizing their own can come from here, and that
can be a bad partnership with the neurochemistry. At some point it
becomes possible to walk into as if you were trying. Not a fault thing,
or a blame thing, but you know, if I get hypoglycemia sneaking up on me
for example the whole world will seem to fall apart and I'll be stubbing
my toe and bumping my head on things like I was a professional at it, or
at least with an uncannily psychic flair...
What is interesting is that I'm not sure I see a general difference
between taking this kind of approach, ie nutritional, and the magical.
Native American *hunting medicines" for *good luck* in hunting can
increase good luck at anything, and I'd guess by helping balance the
brain that is balancing the body or whatever. There's also an aspect of
going *from hunted to hunter* or at least giving off more a vibe of
being one of the pack in this sense, not that there's going to be a
reversal, but maybe some equal footing.
Herbs like Sage, White Sage, maybe Vanilla and Anise, even in
aromatherapy/ potpourri/ incense/ etc
could make a difference (Anise goes last on my list)
and the minty things are also liable to be good. And I'm sure there are
listmembers who might, please, give a better list of luck herbs or
hunting medicines or whatever you know them by.
I'm not sure of all of the workings exactly here, but there's kind of a
warm comfortable consistency to looking at this kind of thing different
ways.
I also wonder if it's not by chance you mention Astral Projection;
something like Mugwort would help both with your *luck* and with that as
well, or dreams that can be comparable. I have a hard time telling which
it is I get from Mugwort.
It's possible that if you have a certain weakness that is proving
irresistable to potential predators, it may also be related to a faintly
incomplete return to body from an OBE whether concious or remembered or
not. If the OBE herbs seem contradictory to use here, they may just
moving things along, applying a little leverage to make the process
stronger and more complete?
Dittany of Crete is one other herb that comes to mind here, but of
course it's largely *just another oregano*... thyme might also be
helpful?
Many of these herbs here can also be teas of course.
Alas, there are others afoot I'm sure who know this stuff much better
than me, so hopefully this won't be the last word on the matter...
Peace!
Chronos Apollonios // ChroniApolloni@webtv.net ~~The World Seed Fund,
c/o Abundant Life Seed Foundation, PO Box 772, 1029 Lawrence St., Port
Townsend, WA 98368~~Rex Research, PO Box 19250, Jean, NV 89109
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:19:05 -0800
Subject: Involuntary Bibliomancy Weekly
How-dee!
Okay, so I was crowing I bought *Flying With The Eagle, Racing With the
Great Bear" told by Joseph Bruchac. I like it alot, and I haven't even
read it.
Sooo, with the same *involuntary bibliomantic* style of just opening to
*the right* page as I did picking up *Drawing Down the Moon*- right to
the poison flying ointment warnings or Crowley's *Magic Without Tears*-
right to the part where he advocates studying Science because it is of
the mind or whatever...
*The Underwater Lodge* pg 48, a Creek story, seems to set down a *new*
icon for a floation ritual discernment, divination, or judgement of a
medicine:
"Blue Fox had no boat, but the bowl in his hands was shaped like a boat.
He put the bowl in the water and it floated away from him toward the
deep part of the river. It turned in a circle four times, then sank".
How sweet it is! And how handy!... provided I'm right of course...
...Of course the title makes you expect a medicine that gives the
ability to stay underwater a long time;
so here the two get to meet each other, like an object beam meeting a
reference beam and Viola!
A holoism is set forth in the brain! How Do those two ideas contrast?
(*Mr.* Glaukos is raising his hand here, amongst others...)
...The quadruple turn is also of course an aspect of Shapeshifting
ritual... (see Sommersault)
Hmmmmm.... Wow!
Peace!
Chronos Apollonios // ChroniApolloni@webtv.net ~~The World Seed Fund,
c/o Abundant Life Seed Foundation, PO Box 772, 1029 Lawrence St., Port
Townsend, WA 98368~~Rex Research, PO Box 19250, Jean, NV 89109
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:01:22 -0800
Subject: Turning the Stick Around, the Series
Hello, I'm Jell-o
I keep thinking about OBE... I don't believe in OBE,
I think it's all a very convincing life-like dream.
Not a lot of point in debating it for practical purpose (here, *as*=*as
if* since it's very hard to
bring your luggage either way... athough you can guess what I think of
books like "Flying Without a Broom" can you not?
At some point I'm sure the arbitrary difference does break down and one
*comes forth into day* or whatever...
But you know what I find amusing this morning is that whole thing about
the Paraclausithyron, the "Please baby let me in" group of classic
literature, is that in The classic, Kallimachos' epigram about
"Kynopion", if you turn the stick around like that suddenly you wonder
why the h*ll is he trying to get back in if the squeeze is such a
b*tch/b*stard ?
Hmmm...
Now to dream of heavy leptonated lubricants and
especially Dust Bunnies forced by Janusian Magic to have an Out-Of-Door
experience.
Double Hmmm...
And something to do with anything having an aura on Kirlian film? (Not
like I haven't posted alot in this *genera* before...)
Could be wrong.
Sometime soon I have to find a very interesting radical physics site and
send it along also... ah, but you know, if you get paid by the hour to
research and you find what you're looking for, then you make up yet
another new name for it and beat around the bush until the cows come
home I suppose...
Could be wrong about that too...
...From the Richard Feynman Invisible College of Monkeys With Sticks And
Sometimes They Put Two Sticks Together and Get the Banana.... (Feynman
diagram of this proceedure forthcoming)
Over & In,
Peace!
Chronos Apollonios // ChroniApolloni@webtv.net ~~The World Seed Fund,
c/o Abundant Life Seed Foundation, PO Box 772, 1029 Lawrence St., Port
Townsend, WA 98368~~Rex Research, PO Box 19250, Jean, NV 89109
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