> > Hellish Ideas
> > > ISKCON GOVERNING BODY COMMISSION SOCIETY
> > > MINUTES OF THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF
> > > THE ISKCON GBC BODY SRI DHAM MAYAPURA,
> > > FEBRUARY 5 -16, 1999
> > > RESOLUTIONS:
> > > 504. [VISION AND GOAL] VARNASRAMA DHARMA
> > > AND CARE FOR DEVOTEES
> > > Whereas Srila Prabhupada repeatedly and
> > > consistently advocated the implementation
> > > of Varnasrama as the panacea for all of
> > > societies social imbalances, and
> > > Whereas Srila Prabhupada instructed that
> > > Varnasrama must be implemented within
> > > ISKCON,
> > > It is resolved THAT as a humble beginning of
> > > the process of implementing Daivi-varnasrama
> > > within ISKCON, the GBC Body emphasizes
> > > the need to care for devotees in the
> > > following fundamental areas:
> > > Children
> > > Women
> > > Elderly
> > > Brahmanas
> > > Cows
> > Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 16 pg. 265, October
> > 16, 1975, Johannesburg:
> > Prabhupada: No, no, beginning, Krsna. Why don't you read
> > Bhagavad-gita? You don't know?
> > Harikesa: No, no. Yes.
> > Prabhupada: What is the social arrangement? What is that?
> > Harikesa: That Krsna created the four orders.
> > Prabhupada: Yes. So you make that four orders,
> > and then society will be in order. But you
> > are not taking Krsna's advice. You are
> > manufacturing your hellish ideas.
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Dear Prabhus
> > Please accept my respectful obeisances.
> > All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
> > Have I committed any offenses,
> > taken any quotes out of context,
> > made any mistakes, and/or
> > done anything I shouldn't have?
> > If so, I'm sorry.
> > Aspiring to be the sincere
> > servant of the servant,
> > Yours Truly,
> > Gauranga Prema Dasa
> > Hare Krsna
Subject: Re: Hellish Ideas
Date: Wed, Mar 31 1999 11:17
From: Jagat
> Dear Gauranga Prema Prabhu,
> PAMHO. I have little hope for engaging you in any kind of real
> conversation. Since I am responding to you in a new
> forum, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
> But you will have to prove yourself to me if you want to truly
> advance your cause. In the past, you have merely cut
> and past Srila Prabhupada's words without pointing out their
> relevance. Don't think that anyone who asks you a
> question is a single person, consider them to be the
> representatives of thousands of people who have the same
> question.
> In this last posting, you make no commentary other than in the
> subject line: "Hellish Ideas."
> It is not clear how the three texts, Prabhupada's quote, the
> GBC resolution and "hellish ideas," are related. Please
> elucidate in your own words.
> Thank you.
> Jagat
Room Conversation, February 14, 1977, Mayapur:
Prabhupada: Every business is important. Brahmana business is important, kshatriya... Just like the body. Head is important; the arm is important; the belly is important. They must be kept in order. Just like I am in trouble because my belly is not working. Digesting power is not good. So in spite of brain, hand, and leg, I am diseased. If any part of the society remains diseased, the whole society will suffer. Therefore they must be maintained in correct order. You cannot say if there is some trouble in the leg, "Neglect the leg. Take care of the brain." No. Brain will be taxed due to the pain in the leg. This is nature. Therefore everyone should be kept in order. Then things will go on. That is varnashrama. They do not know that. Sometimes they are giving stress... That communist is giving stress to the shudra class, and the capitalist are giving to the belly class. And what about the head? What about the arms? And therefore topsy-turvied. Everything is disorder. There are two classes of men now-capitalist and communist. The communist is giving stress, "No. Simply the legs shall be taken care." What is called? Proly?
Hari-sauri: Proletariat.
Prabhupada: What is that proletariat?
Satsvarupa: The laborers.
Prabhupada: That's all. These rascals are giving stress on the legs. And the capitalists, they are giving stress on production. And where is the kshatriya and brahmana?
I'm sorry, but presently I'm not allowed to write or speak.
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Dear Prabhus
Please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Have I committed any offenses,
taken any quotes out of context,
made any mistakes, and/or
If so, I'm sorry.
Aspiring to be the sincere
servant of the servant,
Yours Truly,
Gauranga Prema Dasa
Hare Krsna