> O.K. I guess that was your attempt, you did
> not bring me though what was requested, I
> want you to show me where in your Krsna
> Conscious Society that Srila Prabhupada
> allowed such things as drinking, gambling,
> meat eating of any sort, wild pig, long pig
> whatever. Where anywhere in his
> prescription to you does he ever intimate
> that under Krsna conscious society that
> such allowances will be made.
Prabhupada: But if some of the ksatriya or the sudras, they want, so that is our prescription: "Go to the forest and kill some animal and eat that." (740312MW.VRN)
Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 7 pg. 300:
Srila Prabhupada: For the management of affairs we require to divide. Those who are fit for management and protection they should be trained as ksatriya . . . so in our society this division should be there.
Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 7 pg. 301:
Srila Prabhupada: So everywhere, in each center this system should be introduced and there must be practical application of varnasrama. At the same time this program of devotional service.
Srimad-Bhagavatam [Canto 7, Ch. 15 TEXT 70] Instructions for Civilized Human Beings
PURPORT
To be a playboy in this life is unfortunate because too much attraction to women will lead one to fall into the association of sudras, who can easily take advantage of mingling with women without restriction. In this present age of Kali, when people are mandah, sumanda-matayah - very bad because of a sudra mentality - such free mingling is prominent. Among the higher classes - brahmana, ksatriya and vaisya - there is no chance for men to mingle with women freely, but in the sudra community such mingling is open. Because there is no cultural education in this age of Kali, everyone is spiritually untrained, and everyone is therefore considered sudra (asuddhah sudra-kalpa hi brahmanah kali-sambhavah). When all the people become sudras, certainly they are very bad (mandah sumanda-matayah). Thus they manufacture their own way of life, with the result that they gradually become unfortunate (manda-bhagyah), and furthermore they are always disturbed by various circumstances.
Srimad-Bhagavatam [Canto 6, Ch. 4 TEXTS 49-50]
PURPORT
Nothing is possible without tapasya.
TEXT 51
PURPORT
The Lord says in Bhagavad-gita (7.11), darmaviruddho bhutesu kamo 'smi: "I am sex that is not contrary to religious principles." Sexual intercourse ordained by the Supreme Personality of Godhead is dharma, a religious principle, but it is not intended for sense enjoyment. Indulgence in sense enjoyment through sexual intercourse is not allowed by the Vedic principles. One may follow the natural tendency for sex life only to beget children. Therefore the Lord told Daksa in this verse, "The girl is offered to you only for sex life to beget children, not for any other purpose. She is very fertile, and therefore you will be able to have as many children as you can beget.
Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura remarks in this connection that Daksa was given the facility for unlimited sexual intercourse. In Daksa's previous life he was also known as Daksa, but in the course of performing sacrifices he offended Lord Siva, and thus his head was replaced with that of a goat. Then Daksa gave up his life because of his degraded condition, but because he maintained the same unlimited sexual desires, he underwent austerities by which he satisfied the Supreme Lord, who then gave him unlimited potency for sexual intercourse.
It should be noted that although such a facility for sexual intercourse is achieved by the grace of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, this facility is not offered to advanced devotees, who are free from material desires (anybhilasita-sunyam). In this connection it may be noted that if the American boys and girls engaged in the Krsna consciousness movement want to advance in Krsna consciousness to achieve the supreme benefit of loving service to the Lord, they should refrain from indulging in this facility for sex life. Therefore we advise that one should at least refrain from illicit sex. Even if there are opportunities for sex life, one should voluntarily accept the limitation of having sex only for progeny, not for any other purpose. Kardama Muni was also given the facility for sex life, but he had only a slight desire for it. Therefore after begetting children in the womb of Devahuti, Kardama Muni became completely renounced. The purport is that if one wants to return home, back to godhead, one should voluntarily refrain from sex life. Sex should be accepted only as much as needed, not unlimitedly.
One should not think that Daksa received the favor of the Lord by receiving the facilities for unlimited sex. Later verses will reveal that Daksa again committed an offense, this time at the lotus feet of Narada. Therefore although sex life is the topmost enjoyment in the material world and although one may have an opportunity for sexual enjoyment by the grace of God, this entails a risk of committing offenses. Daksa was open to such offenses, and therefore, strictly speaking, he was not actually favored by the Supreme Lord. One should not seek the favor of the Lord for unlimited potency in sex life.
Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 15 pg. 251:
Srila Prabhupada: Ksatriyas may marry more than one wife. They can take so that all girls must be married.
Conversations With Srila Prabhupada pg. 252 & 253:
Nityananda: Are you saying that our men should have more than one wife?
Srila Prabhupada: I have no objection.
Satsvarupa: That's a difficult proposition.
Srila Prabhupada: Why?
Satsvarupa: It's illegal.
Nityananda: No one knows who is married or unmarried, but if you have...
Srila Prabhupada: That is not very difficult. . . . . If you don't call wife you can have. The law allows you to keep boyfriend, girlfriend. Instead of calling husband, call friend. To keep more than one wife by trained up man is not disallowed. . . . .
Nityananda: The general public does not approve of that.
Srila Prabhupada: We don't care.
Conversations With Srila Prabhupada, May 16, 1975:
Srila Prabhupada: If you can maintain each and every wife you can marry more than one wife.
BHAGAVAD-GITA 3.15
PURPORT
We should always remember that the conditioned souls in material nature are all eager for material enjoyment. But the Vedic directions are so made that one can satisfy ones perverted desires then return to Godhead having finished his so-called enjoyment. It is a chance for the conditioned souls to attain liberation; therefore the conditioned souls must try to follow the process of yajna by becoming Krsna conscious.
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Dear Prabhus
Please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Have I committed any offenses,
taken any quotes out of context,
made any mistakes, and/or
done anything I shouldn't have?
If so, I'm sorry.
Aspiring to be the sincere
servant of the servant,
Yours Truly,
Gauranga Prema Dasa
Hare Krsna