Originally posted by Jagat on 03-16-99 07:36 PM

> Prabhupada started talking about VAD a lot
> when it became clear that not everybody was
> going to live in the temple.

Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 7 pg. 301, 1974:

Srila Prabhupada: So everywhere in each center this system should be introduced, and there must be practical application of varnasrama. At the same time this program of devotional service.

> Think small. Start VAD with yourself.
> What is your sva-dharma.

> Jagat

Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 16 pg. 265 & 266, October 16, 1975, Johannesburg:

Prabhupada: No, no. Take "everyone is rascal," then train them. That is wanted. Take everyone as rascal. . . . . First of all take them all rascals, and then train them. That is wanted. That is wanted now. At the present moment the whole world is full of rascals. Now, if they take to Krsna consciousness, select amongst them. Just like I am training. You are brahmana by training. So one who is prepared to be trained as brahmana, classify him in the brahmana. One is trained up as ksatriya, classify him. In this way, catur-varnyam maya srs...

Harikesa: And that ksatriya would engage everyone basically as sudra and then pick from them.

Prabhupada: Hm.?

Harikesa: He would initially pick...

Prabhupada: No, no, no. You pick up... You take the whole mass of people as sudra. Then...

Harikesa: Pick out.

Prabhupada: Pick out. And rest, who is neither brahmana nor ksatriya nor vaisya, then he is sudra. That's all, very easy thing. If he cannot be trained up as engineer, then he remains as a common man. There is no force. This is the way of organizing society.

Room Conversation, February 14, 1977, Mayapur:

Hari-sauri: The principle we follow. We're just thinking how it can be implemented. You were saying that it should be started in our society.

Prabhupada: Now we are speaking of some of them, training them. That is another thing. That is small scale.

Hari-sauri: The principle we're following.

Prabhupada: Yes. In the... For the big scale, this is the required. In big scale you cannot make all of them as brahmanas or sannyasis. No. That is not possible. This is a small scale. How many percentage of people of the world we are controlling? Very insignificant. But if you want to make the whole human society perfect, then this Krishna consciousness movement should be introduced according to the Krishna's instruction, if you want to do it in a large scale for the benefit of the whole human society. Now we are picking up some of them, best. That is another thing. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu said para-upakara. Why a certain section should be picked up? The whole mass of people will get the benefit of it. Then it is required, systematic. Sve sve karmany abhiratah samsiddhim labhate narah. Para-upakara means mass benefit, not there is certain section. Then we have to introduce this varnashrama-dharma. It must be done perfectly, and it is possible and people will be happy.

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Dear Prabhus

Please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Have I committed any offenses,
made any mistakes, and/or
done anything I shouldn't have?
If so, I'm sorry.

Aspiring to be the sincere
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Yours Truly,
Gauranga Prema Dasa

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