From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: VA > TN > TX; 1672--1923
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 00:50:47 EST
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FIVE GENERATIONS OF MY STRONG ANCESTORS
WHO RESIDED IN VIRGINIA, TENNESSEE, AND TEXAS
Prepared by:
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way, Lori's Landing S/D
Monrovia Community
Madison [County], AL 35758-7113
InterNet E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Revised: 7 December 1996
In the following genealogical table, there are many bits and
pieces of information that are either unknown, uncertain or
undocumented. Any corrections and/or additions will be
appreciated.
No family records were preserved for the first five generations
of this lineage. [The family register of #3, William Strong,
was preserved, but he is not in my own lineage.] Consequently,
it has been necessary to reconstruct these families from public
and, where available, church records.
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FIRST GENERATION
THE FAMILY OF 1. JOHN STRONG OF
(ST. PETER'S PARISH)
NEW KENT COUNTY, VIRGINIA
1. John STRONG (Immigrated to Virginia before 1680. Was he
the 1672 immigrant who embarked for Virginia from the port
of Bristol, England?)
b. Before 1667 (Probably before 1661, probably in England)
d After 1703, probably in St. Paul's Parish, New Kent or
Hanover County, VA
m Unknown, before 1698
* 02. John STRONG
bap 1698, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
03. William STRONG
bap 1701, St, Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
04. George STRONG
bap 1703, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
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SECOND GENERATION
THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF 2. JOHN STRONG (JR.)
OF
(ST. MARTIN'S PARISH)
HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA
02. John STRONG [Jr.]
b About 1698, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
d Unknown. Before September, 1751. Probably St. Paul's
Parish, New Kent or Hanover County, VA
m [Probably] Mary __?__. Before 1730.
Prob. Hanover Co., VA.
b Before 1720. Probably Hanover County, VA.
d After 1787. Probably St. James Northam Parish,
Goochland County, Virginia
* 05. Martin STRONG [the elder] (See Chapter Note 1.)
b Before 1732. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d Before 1781. Probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover Co., VA
m Anne STANLEY, about 1753, probably St.
Martin's Parish, Hanover Co., VA
b Before 1733, St. Martin's Parish, Hanover Co., VA
d Probably 1804. Probably Goochland
Co., VA (Possibly after 1810, Buckingham Co., VA.)
06. Sherwood STRONG [I]
b About 1733. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1763, before 1779 (probably before
1772). Probably Hanover Co., VA
m (Possibly) Rachel __?__ STRONG (See Note 2.)
b Before 1760, location unknown.
d After 1790, probably Goochland Co., VA
07. John STRONG
b Before 1736. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d 1815, Oglethorpe Co., GA
m Elizabeth __?__, probably about 1760 - 1762,
probably Hanover County, VA
b Unknown. Probably before 1740.
d Before 1803, Clarke Co., GA
08. William STRONG [Sr.]
b Before 1738. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d 1816, Clarke Co., GA
m Frances JOHNSON, before 1759. Probably St.
Martin's Parish, Hanover Co., VA
b About 1735 - 1740, location unknown
(probably Hanover Co., VA)
d 1827, Clarke Co., GA
09. Elizabeth STRONG
b Before 1735, probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1751
m Unknown
b
d
PROBABLE CHILDREN
10. Martha STRONG
b Before 1750, location unknown
(probably Hanover Co., VA)
d Before 1777, Goochland Co., VA
m Eleazarius (Eleazer or Azarius) WILLIAMS,
before 1767, location unknown
(probably Hanover Co., VA)
b 1746 or earlier.
d 1782 or earlier. (Will recorded 1789.)
Goochland Co., VA
m(2) Frances __?__
b Unknown
d About 1797, Goochland Co., VA
11. Nathaniel (Nathan) STRONG [Sr.]
b About 1744, probably Hanover Co., VA
d 1823, Madison Co., AL
m Catherine "CALLICHAN" (CALLAHAN), about 1774,
probably Louisa or Hanover Co., VA
b Before 1760, location unknown. Possibly
Louisa or Hanover Co., VA.
d After 1823, Madison Co., AL
POSSIBLE CHILDREN
12. "Matt" (Matthew?) (STRONG?)
b Before 1732. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1751. Probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover Co., VA
m Unknown. (No known heirs.)
13. Sarah (STRONG?)
b Before 1735, probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1752
m Before 1751, _____ BLALOCK
b Before 1735
d Unknown
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THIRD GENERATION
THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF MRS. ANNE STANLEY STRONG,
(PROBABLE WIDOW OF 5. MARTIN STRONG)
OF
GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA
05. Martin STRONG [the eldest] (See Note 1.)
b before 1732
d About 1780/1. Probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
m Anne STANLEY, about 1753, St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia [Daughter of John Stanley,
"the eldest" of Cedar Creek Meeting House, Society
of Friends, in western Hanover County, VA]
b Before 1733, St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d Probably 1804 in Goochland Co., VA
Possibly after 1810, Buckingham Co., VA
12. Nancy STRONG
b About 1764, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1816, probably Goochland County, Virginia
m(1) William CARRELL, 17 SEP 1781, Goochland Co., VA
b Before 1751
d Before SEP 1797, Goochland Co., Virginia
m(2) Bartholomew (Bartlett) TURNER, JAN 1799,
Goochland County, Virginia
b Before 1774
d Before 17 JUN 1799, Goochland Co., VA
m(3) Charles JOHNSON [III], 1816, Goochland Co., VA
b Before 1748?
d After 1816, Goochland Co., VA
* 13. Sherwood STRONG
b 1767 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d 1830 - 1836, Rutherford County, Tennessee
m Mary TIBBS, 10 MAR 1791, Goochland County, VA
b About 1774
d Buried 3 APR 1865, Nashville City Cemetery,
Davidson County, Tennessee
14. Mastin STRONG
b About 1774, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d 31 JAN 1866, Randolph (now Cleburne) County, AL
m(1) Mary EAST, 26 DEC 1799, Goochland County, VA
b Before 1783
d Before 1806, Goochland or
Buckingham County, Virginia
m(2) Rebecca McCORMACK (McCORMIC), 1803 - 1806,
Buckingham County, Virginia
b 1786 - 1788, probably Buckingham Co., VA
d After 1873, Calhoun or Randolph County, AL
15. John STRONG
b 1775 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1840, probably Franklin County, Alabama
m Jemima __?__, about 1800, probably
Buckingham County, VA
b
d After 1840, probably Franklin Co., Alabama
16. Mary STRONG
b After 1773, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d Unknown
m James LOGAN, 15 DEC 1794, Goochland Co., Virginia
bapt 27 APR 1768, Goochland County, Virginia
d Unknown
17. Thomas STRONG
b About 1776, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1850, probably Gibson County, Tennessee
m Milly BLACKMON (or BLACKMORE), 19 FEB 1811,
Davidson County, Tennessee
b 1785 - 1795, Tennessee
d After 1850, probably Gibson County, TN
18. Possibly an unidentified son
b Probably before 1765
d Before 1790
m Rachel __?__, probably before 1780 (See Note 2.)
b
d After 1790
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FOURTH GENERATION
THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF 15. SHERWOOD STRONG
OF
GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA
AND
SUMNER, DAVIDSON, AND RUTHERFORD COUNTIES, TENNESSEE
15. Sherwood STRONG
b 1767 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish, Hanover
County, Virginia
d 1830 - 1836, Rutherford County, Tennessee
m Mary TIBBS, 10 MAR 1791, Goochland County, Virginia
b About 1772 or 1773, Virginia
d Buried 3 APR 1865, Nashville City Cemetery,
Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee
DEFINITE CHILDREN
21. Polly (probably Mary, Jr.) STRONG
b 1792-1800, probably Goochland Co., VA.
d before 1820?, probably Davidson County or
Rutherford County, Tennessee
m John TENNISON, 21 MAY 1816, Davidson Co., TN.
b Before 1800. Unknown location.
d Unknown. Before 1820?, probably Davidson
County or Rutherford County, Tennessee
22. Thomas STRONG
b 1793-1797, Goochland County, Virginia
d After 1860, probably Davidson County
or Wilson Co., TN.
m Rhoda SHANE, 22 DEC 1819, Davidson Co., TN.
b 1794-1804, Davidson County, Tennessee
d After 1870, probably Wilson Co., TN.
PROBABLE CHILDREN
23. Sally (probably Sarah) STRONG
b 1792-1800, probably Goochland Co., VA.
d 1842-1850, probably Davidson Co., TN.
m Jacob EARHART (EARHEART), 10 APR 1816,
Davidson County, Tennessee
b 1785, North Carolina
d After 1850, probably
Davidson County, Tennessee.
24. William STRONG
b 1802-1804, probably Goochland Co., VA.,
but possibly TN
d 13-15 FEB 1842, Crawford County, Missouri
m Anne BINKLEY, 27 APR 1823, Davidson Co., TN.
b 1800-1809, Tennessee
d 1840-1850?, probably Crawford Co., MO.
25. Nancy STRONG
b 1801-1809, Virginia or Tennessee
d After 1860, Shelby Co., TN.
m(1) Joshua STARKEY, 8 MAY 1825, Davidson Co., TN.
b 1800-1807, VA.
d 11 May 1847, Shelby Co., TN.
m(2) Edwin CORBETT, 3 JUL 1849, Shelby Co., TN.
b
d
* 26. Isham S. STRONG
b 10 MAR 1798-1804, probably Goochland Co., VA.
d 25 FEB 1889, Hurstown Community, Shelby Co., TX.
m Susannah (Susan) DUNBAR, JUL 1822,
Davidson Co., TN
b About 1804, possibly
Montgomery County?, Tennessee
d FEB 1870, Patroon, Shelby County, Texas
27. Julia? (Judith?) STRONG
b 1792-1795. Unknown location.
d After 1850, probably Davidson County, Tennessee
m John BAKER, 14 AUG 1811, Sumner County, Tennessee
b 1781-1790. Unknown location.
d 1840-1850, probably Davidson County, Tennessee
POSSIBLE CHILD
28. Lyman J. STRONG
b About 1806. Unknown location.
d After 1830. Unknown location; possibly
Shelby County, Tennessee, before 1850.
m Martha H. GREEN, 8 SEP 1828, Sumner County, TN.
b 1811-1815. Unknown location.
d After 1830. Unknown location; possibly
Shelby County, Tennessee, before 1850.
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FIFTH GENERATION
THE FAMILY OF 26. ISHAM S. STRONG
OF
DAVIDSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE
AND
SHELBY COUNTY, TEXAS
26. Isham S. STRONG
b 10 FEB 1798-1804, probably Goochland County, VA.
d 25 FEB 1889, Hurstown Community, Shelby Co., TX.
bur Unknown. Possibly Rather Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX.
m Susannah (Susan) DUNBAR, JUL 1822,
Davidson County, Tennessee
b About 1804, possibly Montgomery County?, TN.
d FEB 1870, Patroon, Shelby County, Texas
bur Unknown. Possibly Rather Cemetery, Shelby Co.
29. Thomas Jefferson STRONG
b 7 JAN 1824, Davidson County, Tennessee
d 19 MAY 1907, Sardis Community,
Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby County, Texas
m(1) Eliza Jane BERRY, 25 OCT 1848,
San Augustine County, Texas
b About 1837, Possibly Virginia or Missouri
d After 1860, probably Newton County, Texas
bur Unknown
m(2) Drucilla (UNKNOWN), before 1870, Texas
b 24 FEB 1846, Georgia
d 13 JAN 1887, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX.
m(3) Mrs. Amy D. (UNKNOWN) DURR, 6 OCT 1887,
Shelby County, Texas
b Unknown
d Before 1894? Shelby Co., TX.?
m(4) Missouri HANEY, 29 APR 1894, Shelby Co., TX.
b SEP 1859, Shelby County, Texas
d 12 MAR 1929, Center, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX. (No marker.)
30. Elizabeth STRONG
b DEC 1828, Davidson County, Tennessee
d 11 FEB 1923, San Augustine or Sabine Co., TX.
bur Gravel Hill, Sabine Co., TX
m(1) Guilford Dickson REYNOLDS, before 1863
(possibly before 1856), probably Shelby Co., TX.
b About 1835, Arkansas
d About 1898, Shelby Co., TX.
m(2) W. D. DUNCAN, 13 MAY 1898 (license),
Shelby Co., TX
b About 1825, Alabama
d Unknown (possibly before 1900)
31. (Unknown female) STRONG
b 1830-1835, probably Davidson County, Tennessee
d After 1840, probably Arkansas or Texas
m Probably never married
32. Alexander H. STRONG
b 7 JUL 1836, Davidson County, Tennessee
d JUL 1869, Shelby County, Texas
bur Unkown. Possibly Rather Cemetery,
Shelby Co., TX
m Mrs. Matilda (COOK) Swanzy
b 1929-1830, Tennessee
d 1913, Hawthorne, Shelby Co., TX.
m(1) Robert P. SWANZY
m(3) (Uncertain) STUBBLEFIELD
m(4) David H. WATKINS
33. Emily C. STRONG
b 19 JAN 1838, Davidson County, Tennessee
d After 1900, Erath County, Texas
m Perry Cornelius CORBELL, 19 SEP 1860,
Shelby or Sabine County, Texas
b 28 SEP 1828, Mississippi
d 13 APR 1896, Erath County, Texas
m(1) 19 DEC 1848, Frances Elizabeth Ann Mason
34. George Wyatt STRONG, Sr. (aka Wyatt STRONG)
b About 1839, unknown county, Mississippi
d After 7 APR 1867, Shelby County?, Texas
bur Unknown. Possibly Rather Cemetery,
Shelby Co., TX
m Lanicia ("Nicey" or "Nicie") HANKS
b About 1847, Arkansas
d about 1872, Shelby County, Texas
m(2) Robert C. TRIBBLE, before 1870,
probably Shelby County, Texas
b About 1848, Patroon, Shelby Co.,TX.
d Before 1880, Shelby Co., TX.
35. John STRONG
b About 1842, Shelby County, Texas
d 1868, Shelby County, Texas
m Margaret HANKS, about 1866, Shelby Co., TX.
b About 1845-1846, Arkansas
d 28 NOV 1908, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby County, Texas
m(2) Ambrose H. ("Amps") BUCKLEY
36. Mary F. STRONG
b 24 DEC 1846, Shelby County, Texas
d 21 NOV 1910 (or 1911), San Augustine
or Shelby County, Texas
bur Holly Springs Cemetery, Shelby County, Texas
m John William GOING
b 5 OCT 1837-1840, Copiah Co., Mississippi
d 5 APR 1901, Garrison, Nacogdoches Co., TX.
bur Cold Springs Baptist Church Cemetery,
Near Garrison, Texas (no monument)
36. Aaron(?) or Oren(?) STRONG (See Note 3.)
b About 1851, Shelby County, Texas
d After 1860, before 1872 (probably before 1870),
probably Shelby County, Texas
m Probably did not marry
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1. There was a another Strong family that resided in Cumberland
County, VA, from 1757 or earlier until about 1765, when the
family relocated to the same vicinity in St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, where 2. John Strong had resided before his
death. For example, the second Strong family was in the same
tax precinct with John Stanley, the eldest, father of Anne
Stanley Strong. This second Strong family, which included 13
children, was the only Strong family that remained in Hanover
County, VA, after 1781. One of the 13 children in this family
was a second, younger Martin Strong, "Sr.", who died in Hanover
County after 1830.
2. [Mrs.?] Rachel Strong had a son, James Strong, a minor in
1790, who was "bound out" as an apprentice in Goochland County,
VA. Records of a James Strong are found in Gibson County, TN,
about the time that 17. Thomas Strong relocated there,
suggesting the two are possibly related.
3. The given name of this son of Isham S. Strong is uncertain.
The name could be "Iroon" or "Irion" or "Orrin", for example.
The only known record of this son is the 1850 census of Shelby
County, Texas. I read the entry as "Iron", which is possibly
a mis-spelling of the name.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG Mail List
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 00:50:47 EST
Howdy, Folks!!!
Has anyone posted a query to the STRONG Mail List?
As yet I have received no messages and have posted
no messages as I was unaware that anyone had
subscribed. I will try to get some things posted next
week.
If you have not already done so, please post a message
indicating your connection to the STRONG or related
surname. Be sure to include the three vital ingredients:
WHO, WHERE, WHEN. Descendancy Charts and
Family Group Sheets are welcomed, but be sure to keep
the lines short and don't go beyond about the 70th space
because, if you do, your chart alignment will "break up"
when it is transmitted. You have probably received some
messages that were not aligned properly so you probably
know what I am trying to avoid in this Discussion Group.
Thanks for subscribing. I am looking forward to
becoming better acquainted with each of you via this
discussion group.
A special welcome to L. Strahan. If everyone will post
the mis-spellings of their family names from early
[especially Colonial] records, it will aid us all in sorting
out our various families and perhaps in discovering some
common roots.
Our List got started just at a time when the List Server
[MAISER] was experiencing some problems. Larry
Stephens, who programs and operates MAISER for the
benefit of all of us family historians, indicates these
problems have now been resolved. I hope no one was
inconvenienced.
Your List Manager, Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
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Members of list 'STRONG' as at Sat, 7 Dec 96 11:41:
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
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dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov
70771.1421@CompuServe.COM
tstrahan@sound.net
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: ENG > MA > CT > NY > OH > AR; 1556 - Present
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:28:17 EST
The following message has been posted to the STRONG Mail
List with the permission of the submittor, Cleta Terrell.
Can anyone add to or correct any of the following data?
Is anyone else connected to the [Elder] John Strong line?
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From: cterrell@juno.com (Cleta M Terrell)
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: STRONG Mail List
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:15:21 PST
Robert, I saw your post about the STRONG list on Fido and
promptly subscribed. I only learned of my Strong family a
couple of years ago.
Seems I am a descendant of Elder [church title] John
Strong who came from Chard, England to Massachusetts,
aboard the Mary and John in 1630.
Here is my STRONG list as I have it:
John Strong b. ? Eng. d. ? Eng
George Strong b. 1556 Eng. d. ?
Richard John Strong b. 1570s? d. ?
[Elder] John Strong b. 1610 Chard, Somerset, England d. ? MA
Thomas Strong b. 26 Oct 1633 MA
d. 3 Oct 1689 MA
m. Rachel Holton
Joseph Strong b. 2 Dec 1672 MA
d. 23 Dec 1763
m. Sarah Allen
Phineas Strong b. 1704 CT
d. ? CT
m. Mary Parker
Oziah Strong b. 3 Sep 1734 CT
d. 21 Nov 1807 NY
m. Susannah West
Horatio Strong b. 16 May 1758 MA
d. 14 Jul 1831 OH
m. Patience Stevens
Daniel Strong b. 1780 MA
d. 4 May 1866 OH
m. Prudence Wells
Harriett Strong b. 1812 OH
d. abt 1871? AR
m. 1st Benjamin Croy
m. 2nd Zera Blakely
Harriett and Zera are my 2nd great grandparents.
That is basically all I have on my Strong line. I have been told that
Horatio was a Judge in Gallia County, Ohio.
Cleta Terrell in Arkansas
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: STRONG: ENG > MA > CT > NY > OH > AR; 1556 - Present
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 23:54:32 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-08 22:30:50 EST, rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T.
Strong) writes:
<< Here is my STRONG list as I have it:
John Strong b. ? Eng. d. ? Eng
George Strong b. 1556 Eng. d. ?
Richard John Strong b. 1570s? d. ?
[Elder] John Strong b. 1610 Chard, Somerset, England d. ? MA
Thomas Strong b. 26 Oct 1633 MA
d. 3 Oct 1689 MA
m. Rachel Holton
Joseph Strong b. 2 Dec 1672 MA
d. 23 Dec 1763
m. Sarah Allen
Phineas Strong b. 1704 CT
d. ? CT
m. Mary Parker
Oziah Strong b. 3 Sep 1734 CT
d. 21 Nov 1807 NY
m. Susannah West
Horatio Strong b. 16 May 1758 MA
d. 14 Jul 1831 OH
m. Patience Stevens
Daniel Strong b. 1780 MA
d. 4 May 1866 OH
m. Prudence Wells
Harriett Strong b. 1812 OH
d. abt 1871? AR
m. 1st Benjamin Croy
m. 2nd Zera Blakely
Harriett and Zera are my 2nd great grandparents.
That is basically all I have on my Strong line. I have been told that
Horatio was a Judge in Gallia County, Ohio.
Cleta Terrell in Arkansas
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Oh my -- I will have to back and check -- I, too, descend from Elder John
STRONG - Through Thomas - I don't recall most of these names - maybe because
they occur after my info stops. This will be interesting. BTW - Elder John
d. 1699 in Northampton, MA.
I started to put my tree in here last night, but it is messed up since "The
Crash" - I've been reconstructing other lines recently - between working two
jobs (speech teacher / copy center associate at Office Depot) and pretending
to raise a family. That job is mostly done, since my youngest is almost 15,
and my older two are openly disinterested in what Mom has to say. They are
19 (living away from home) and nearly 21 (at home, but soon to fly the coop -
I hoop!)
Without looking my line up - I have Elder John > Thomas > Selah > [a few more
Thomases and Selahs] > Charles Ruggles Strong (1844 - 19can't remember >
Louis Bergner STRONG (1897 - 1940) > Louis Duval STRONG (1920 - 1985) > ME
(1946 - ? ) A reasonable facsimile exists on my WebPage - my hardcopy of the
STRONG Page does not carry the address, so you'll have to take the circuitous
route. Go to: http://members.aol.com/varow48/varow48/sandi.htm -- as you
scroll down you SHOULD see STRONG highlighted and clickable. If that doesn't
work, go to Rogues Gallery (further down) and go see Selah. There's a link
there, for sure. Go see the Rogues Gallery anyhow. I was going great guns
on this thing until The Crash - and haven't gotten up to speed yet, so no
updates in awhile. TG I made hardcopies of these pages, at least. Cleta -
thanks for giving us this info - it made me check this page, and see -- I
have Joseph, but never any descendants for him. (My copy of Dwight is --
well, non-existant) - May I add your info to the page - may I direct
queries to you?
Selah, s/o Thomas, s/o Elder John, came down to Setauket, LI early on, and
most of his descendants were born there. Even so, there were marriages in
Westchester and Orange Counties. My dad was born in NJ. BTW -- if anyone
else has LI STRONGs, be advised, if you don't already know - that the
THOMPSON version of the STRONG genealogy has been DEBUNKED. We do NOT come
from William Brewster - we come from FRANCIS Brewster - no known relation. I
know that's not strictly STRONG info - but I feel an obligation to tell
anyone who is using him.
That's my contribution for tonight. I am glad to have some motivation in
this line. At one time, I thought I had this pretty well-buttoned up, but I
was way wrong. Thanks, Bob.
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG and related surnames, Anywhere, Anytime
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 06:35:21 EST
On 8 Dec 1996 21:11 "Theresa Lang"
< theresa@lang.org > said:
>Hello Bob,
>Wow! This is quite an undertaking on your part. I'm certainly looking
>forward to what develops.
>Forwarded your message to eight people whom I've had Strong e-mail with,
>that I thought would be interested in this mail list. Hope you don't mind.
>Best Regards,
>Theresa
>San Jose CA
>theresa@lang.org
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Greetings, Theresa!
I not only don't mind, I highly encourage this dissemination of
information
about the Strong Mail List.
Please post to the Strong Mail List some information about your
connection
to the Strong family and/or your interest in the Strong family.
Best wishes,
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Ancestry of Phineas Strong, Another Opinion
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 06:35:20 EST
Over the years several persons have contiributed
GEDCOMs to me of their Strong ancestry.
Following is an ancestry of Phineas Strong that
has a couple of discrepancies with the Descendancy
Chart recently submitted by Cleta Terrell. I do not
know which is correct. This is submitted to stimulate
further discussion only.
The descendancy chart whch appears below was
abstracted from a Ford Family Database [GEDCOM]
contributed by Robert A. ("Bob") Thomas, who
operates the Tracks from the Past [Genealogy] Bulletin
Board in Anniston, Alabama. Bob Thomas is a Ford
descendant and researcher. The material in the Ford
Database is a compilation of the research of numerous
persons. Bob Thomas can be contacted by Internet
E-Mail at < BAThomas@juno.com >
Cleta: Would you please submit a GEDCOM of the
ancestry and descendants of Phineas Strong for
inclusion in my collection! I can accept either
3.5 inch or 5.25 inch diskettes, in either Double
Density or High Density format.
ANCESTRY OF PHINEAS STRONG:
1. Robert Strong, b. 1490 Berminister, Dorsetshire, ENG
2. John Strong, b. about 1515, Somersetshire, ENG
3. George Strong,
b. about 1560, Chardstock, Somersetshire, ENG
d. 13 FEB 1635, Chardstock, Somersetshire, ENG
4. John Strong
b. after 1584, Chardstock, Somersetshire, ENG
d. 14 JUN 1613, Chardstock, Somersetshire, ENG
m. about 1609, Eleanor Deane
5. John Strong [Elder in his church]
b. about 1605-1610, Taunton, ENG
d. APR 1699, Northampton, Hampshire Co., MA
m. DEC 1635, Dorchester, Suffolk [County?], MA
6. Jedediah Strong [Sr.],
b. MAY 1637, possibly Windsor, Hartford Co., CT
d. 22 MAY 1733, Coventry, Tolland Co., CT
m. 18 NOV 1662, Northampton, Hampshire Co., MA,
Abigail Ford
7. Joseph Strong
b. Northampton, Hampshire Co., MA
m. about 1694, Northampton, Hampshire Co., MA,
Freedom Woodward
8. Phineas Strong
b. 25 JUL 1701, Northampton Co., MA
d. 9 APR 1773, Coventry, Tolland [Co.?], CT
m. Sarah Allen
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: I do not purport that the
above data is correct. It is presented only to point out
inconsistencies which need to be resolved, such as
the following.
Who was the father of Joseph Strong?
Who was the wife (or wives) of Phineas Strong?
No data on the descendants of Phineas Strong were
included in any of the several GEDCOMS I have on file.
Please address replies to the STRONG Mail List at
< STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >.
Bob Strong, Manager, Strong Mail List
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From: Thomas Strahan
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRAHAN
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:19:48 -0600 (CST)
My surname is documented, unchanged back to the
Revolutionary War. What I am trying to find is someone
with a clue to help find my origin before the War.
STRAHAN: PA > FLeming Co., KY; 1775-1855
STRAHAN: Randolph Co., IND; 1855-Present.
My family is well documented as mentioned above. Along the
way I have uncovered other lines whose spellings vary.
None as STRONG; however, many STRAIN, STRANAHAN,
STRACHAN, STRAYHORN, STRAUN, etc. Even many other
STRAHAN lines I am unable to connect to mine.
Looking for that clue... Tom Strahan.
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: STRONG: ENG > MA > CT > NY > OH > AR; 1556 - Present
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:25:01 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-08 22:30:50 EST, Cleta writes:
<< [Elder] John Strong b. 1610 Chard, Somerset, England
d. ? MA
Thomas Strong b. 26 Oct 1633 MA
d. 3 Oct 1689 MA
m. Rachel Holton
Joseph Strong b. 2 Dec 1672 MA
d. 23 Dec 1763
m. Sarah Allen >>
Hi -- I show Joseph as s/o Thomas, not Jedediah. I got this part probably
from another GED - still sifting through those. I MAY have gotten it from
Dwight, but I don't think so, as I have kids of people not in my direct line,
and they would have been of interest to the creator of the GED - and no kids
or wife for Joseph. The oint is, I see him here as s/o Thomas. I have:
1. Elder John Strong, b. 1605, Somerset, ENG, d/ 14 Apr 1699 Northampton, MA
m. ?? - I used to have a name, and at one time, thought it was DEANE,
but that would appear to be a 'mistook' and belonging to another generation.
Put that aside. There was a wife and a 2-yr old, the wife gave birth either on
the ship or shortly after arrival, and all three died. Before the year was out, he
married Abigail Ford who had also arrived, along with her father, on the Mary & John.
2.1 Thomas Strong, b. 1633 Dorchester, MA, d. 3 Oct 1689, Northamption, MA;
m. (1) Mary Hewett, who d. 20 Feb 1670/71
3.1 Thomas Strong, b. 16 Nov 1661
3.2 Maria Strong, b. 31 Aug 1663, d. 18 May 1751
3.3 John Strong, b. 9 Mar 1664/65, d. 21 May 1699
3.4 Hewett Strong, b. 2 Dec 1666, d. 29 Sep 1699
3.5 Asahel Strong, b. 14 Nov 1668, d. 8 Oct 1739, Farmington, CT
Second wife of [2.1] Thomas Strong, Rachel Holton
3.6 JOSEPH STRONG, b. 2 Dec 1672, d. 23 Dec 1763, Coventry, CT
3.7 Waitstill Strong, b. aft 1672, d. 13 Nov 1762
3.8 Benjamin Strong, b. 1674, d. 27 Aug 1755
3.9 Adino Strong, b. 25 Jan 1675/76, d. 31 Dec 1763
3.10 Rachel Strong, b. 1679
3.11 Justice Selah Strong, b. 23 Dec 1680, Northampton, MA, d 8 Apr 1732
Setauket, LI, m. Abigail Terry who was b. 10 Jun 1680, Southold, LI, NY, d. 2
Feb 1761,Setauket, LI
3.12 Benjamin Strong, b. 1682
3.13 Ephraim SDtorng, b. 1685
3.14 Elnathan Strong, b. 1686
3.15 Ruth Strong, b. 1688
3.16 Submit Strong, b. 1690
2.2 Jedediah Strong, b. 7 May 1637, d. 22 May 1733
2.3 Josiah Strong, b. 1639, d. 1649, probably Windsor, CT
2.4 Return Strong, b. 1641, d. 9 Apr 1726
2.5 Ebenezer Strong, b. 1643, d. 11 Feb 1728/29
2.6 Abigail Strong, b. 1645, m. (1) Rev. Nathaniel Chauncey, (2) Dea. Medad
Pomeroy
2.7 Elizabeth Strong, b. 24 Feb 1646/47 Windsor, CT, d. 12 May 1736,
Northampton, MA
2.8 Experience Strong, b. 4 Aug 1650, Windsor, CT, m. Zerubbabel Filer or
Files
2.9 Samuel Strong, b. 4 Aug 1652, d. 29 Oct 1732
2.10 Joseph Strong, b. 5 Aug 1652. d. 1655 Windsor - Maybe Northampton
2.11 Mary Strong, b. 26 Oct 1654, Windsor, CT, d. 8 Dec 1738, m. Dea. John
Clark
2.12 Sarah Strong, b. 1656, d. 10 Feb 1732/33, m. Joseph Barnard
2.13 Hannah Strong, b. 30 May 1659, d. 31 Jan 1693/94
2.14 Hester Strong, b. 7 Jun 1661, Northampton, MA, d. 4 Mar 1725/26, m.
Thomas Bissell
2.15 Thankful Strong, b. 25 Jul 1663, m. Mr. Baldwin
2.16 Jerijah Strong, b. 12 Dec 1665, d. 24 Apr 1754
Note re: twins - Samuel and Joseph - I don't know offhand if 5 Aug and 4 Aug
means one is a typo, or if midnight intervened in the birthing process.
I am sure now that I picked this up. I had death dates for many of those who
died in infancy, and I think maybe more marriages. Will keep hunting. Just
adding my two cents to Joseph's Papa issue.
Comments: I do remember reading John Strong was born in Taunton. I have
also read Chard. I think the Somerset thing comes from knowing that the
people on the Mary & John were suposedly from AROUND Somerset, Dorset and
Devon - and I admit to not knowing a thing about the geography over there.
Additionally, I believe that Somerset was a port of departure so I guess
what many 'rooters' would read as coming FROM Somerset would more properly be
read 'sailing out of Somerset" . I guess I'm getting my two cents worth
here. Sorry if I'm raving or stating the obvious.
One thing I WILL comment on is that it is well documented that Elder John's
second wife WAS Abigail FORD. If Jedediah Strong married a girl named
Abigail Ford, it is a different one.
That's all for now, but I'm still sifting.
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Who were the parents of Joseph Strong?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 20:56:47 EST
Earlier today I posted to the Strong Mail List a four-generation
descendancy chart for George Strong, grandfather of John
Strong, the Elder in his church, who immigrated to Massachusetts.
[I don't like to use "Elder John Strong" because a few people have
mis-interpreted the "Elder" as a proper name.]
I didn't carry the descendancy chart down far enough to answer
Sandi Rowe's question regarding: Who were the parents of Joseph
Strong? Cooper's Strong database shows Joseph, son of John
Strong and Abigail Ford, born 5 AUG 1652, Windson, Hartford Co.,
CT. It also shows Joseph, son of Thomas Strong and Rachel Holton,
born 2 DEC 1672, Northampton, Hampshire Co., MA; died
23 DEC 1763,Coventry, Tolland Co., CT. Thomas' Strong-Ford DB
shows Joseph, son of Jedediah Strong and Freedon Woodward,
born unknown date, Northampton, Hampshire Co., MA, married
in 1694 in Northampton to Sarah Allen. And there was/were one
or two more Joseph's who were descendants of John Strong, the
Church Elder, within the next generation or two.
Can anyone disprove any of the above data regarding the several
Joseph Strongs of New England?
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@pog.iquest.com (RT2 Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: George Strong and Descendants: Four Generations
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 07:56:48
The following Descendancy Chart was compiled from a
GEDCOM submitted by Robert Edwin Cooper, Jr., a descendant
of Hannah Strong, wife of Capt. William Clark.
The Descendancy Chart shows the two wives of the 1630
[1635?] immigrant to Massachusetts, John Strong, and shows
him to be a John Strong, Jr., or John Strong, II.
According to this and some other accounts, the wife and
an infant child of John Strong, Jr., died aboard ship in
1635, but he arrived with or was followed by one son, John
Strong, III. John Strong, II, subsequently married Abigail
Ford and together they had 16 children.
John Strong, III, reportedly had five children before he
died on 20 FEB 1698 at Windsor, Hartford, CT.
Sandi Strong Rowe was correct in pointing out that I had
incorrectly reported the name of the wife of Jedediah
Strong, Sr., in a previous posting. My apologies. It
appears I had difficult following the lines on an Ancestor
Chart I had printed.
It was not possible, using Family Origins, to print this
chart without boxes or lines. Since the JUNO Online
Services editor will not import graphics, including lines,
this text file is being transmitted from another E-Mail
address. Please post replies to the STRONG Mail List.
I hope this will be of interest and/or value to some
subscribers to the Strong Family Mail List.
Bob Strong, 10 DEC 1995
% STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
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GEORGE STRONG and Descendants, Four Generations
GEORGE STRONG (1560-1635)
sp:GEORGE Mrs. (1563-)
----WALTER STRONG (1579-1667)
sp:ANN BOND (1582-1674)
----ELIZABETH STRONG (1626-)
----MARIE STRONG (1627-)
----JOANE STRONG (1628-)
----GEORGE STRONG (-)
----JOHN STRONG, I, (1582-1612)
sp:ELEANOR DEANE (1588-1654)
----JOHN STRONG, II, Elder (1610-1699)
sp:MARGERY DEANE (1606-1635) [died on ship]
----JOHN STRONG III (1626-1697)
sp:MARY CLARK (1638-1663)
sp:ELIZABETH WARRENER (1640-1684)
sp:HANNAH TRUMBLE SMITH (-)
----infant STRONG (1635-1635) [died on ship]
sp:ABIGAIL FORD (1619-1688)
----THOMAS STRONG (1633-1689)
sp:MARY HEWETT (1640-1670)
sp:RACHEL HOLTON (1645-)
----JEDEDIAH STRONG I (1637-1733)
sp:FREEDOM WOODWARD (1642-1681)
sp:ABIGAIL STEBBING (1660-1689)
sp:MARY HART (1641-1710)
----JOSIAH STRONG (1639-)
----RETURN STRONG (1641-1726)
sp:SARAH WARHAM (1645-)
sp:MARGARET NEWBERRY (1645-)
----EBENEZER STRONG (1643-1729)
sp:HANNAH CLAPP (1647-)
sp:ABIGAIL SHARPE (1647-)
----ABIGAIL STRONG (1645-1704)
sp:NATHANIEL CHAUNCEY (1641-)
sp:Medad POMEROY (1636-)
----ELIZABETH STRONG (1647-1736)
sp:JOSEPH PARSONS (1647-1729)
----EXPERIENCE STRONG (1650-1714)
sp:ZERUBBABEL FILER (1646-)
----SAMUEL STRONG (1652-1732)
sp:RUTH SHELDON (1663-1728)
sp:ESTHER CLAPP (1656-)
----JOSEPH STRONG (1652-)
----MARY STRONG (1654-1738)
sp:JOHN CLARK (1651-1704)
----SARAH STRONG (1656-1733)
sp:JOSEPH BARNARD (1654-)
sp:JONATHAN WELLS (1652-)
----HANNAH STRONG (1659-1693)
sp:WILLIAM CLARK Capt. (1656-1725)
----HESTER STRONG (1661-1726)
sp:THOMAS BISSELL (1657-)
----THANKFUL STRONG (1663-)
sp:JONATHAN BALDWIN (1659-)
----JERIJAH STRONG (1665-1754)
sp:THANKFUL STEBBINS (1667-)
----ELEANOR STRONG (1613-1654)
sp:WALTER DEANE (-1693)
----MARY DEANE (1638-1691)
sp:SHADRACH WILBORE (1640-1697)
----LYDIA DEANE (1644-)
sp:BARTHOLOMEW TIPPING (1640-1711)
----JAMES DEANE (1648-1725)
sp:SARAH TISDALE (1650-1726)
----EZRA DEANE Dea.2 (1650-1731)
sp:BETHIAH EDSON (1650-)
----BENJAMIN DEANE (1651-1725)
sp:SARAH WILLIAMS (-)
----JOSEPH DEANE (1654-1728)
sp:MARY TIPPING (1650-1729)
----WILLIAM STRONG (1583-1613)
sp:MARGARET (1585-1621)
----Jone STRONG (1604-)
----WILLIAM STRONG (1605-)
----SAMUEL STRONG (1606-)
----THOMAS STRONG (1584-1663)
sp:JOANNA BAGGE (1586-)
----MARGARET STRONG (1604-)
----ELIZABETH STRONG (-)
----Lavina STRONG (-)
----Daughter STRONG (1609-)
----JANE STRONG (1611-1679)
----SARAH STRONG (-)
----JAMES STRONG (-)
*CC: STRONG @rmgate.pop.indiana.edu Internet *CC: rtstrongjr @juno.com Internet
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Elder John & Mr. Dwight
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:50:38 -0500
Hi -- Guess what I found - 3 xeroxed pages of Dwight. I'm probably talking
to nine OWNERS of Dwight, but I haven't heard that so I will proceed.
p. 16 -- Eleanor Strong came with her brother John to this country, when he
was but 25 years of age, and she was probably several years younger, and
married Walter Deane, a tanner, of Taunton, MA, previously of Taunton, ENG.,
and became the mother of four sons and one daughter. He was born abt 1617,
and was a prominent man in the affairs of his new home. Her descendants have
been numerous and highly respectable. For various accounts of some of the
see NEGR.
In 1635, after having assisted in founding and developing the town of
Dorchester, John Strong, removed to Hingham, MA, and on May 9, 1636, took the
freeman's oath at Boston. His stay at Hingham was short, as on Dec. 4, 1638,
he is found to have been an inhabitant and proprietor of Taunton, MA, and to
have been made in that year a freeman of Plymouth colony. He remained at
Taunton, as late at any rate as 1645, as he was a deputy thence to the
General court in Plymouth, in 1641, '3, and '4. From Taunton he removed to
Windsor, CT where he was appointed with four others, Capt. John Mason, Roger
Ludlow, Israel Stoughton and Henry Wolcott, all very leading men in the
infant colony, "to superintend and bring forward the settlement of that
place." which had been settled a few years before (1636) by a portion of the
same colony that with him had founded Dorchester. Windsor was in fact called
at first, and for several years (1636-50), Dorchester.
In 1659 he removed from Windsor to Northampton, MA of which he was one of the
first and most active founders, as he had been previously of Dorchester,
Hingham, Taunton, and Windsor. In Northampton he lived for forty years, and
was a leading man in the affairs of the town and of the church. He was a
tanner and very prosperous in his business. His tannery was located on what
is now [1871] the southwest corner of Market and Main Streets near the rail
road depot. He owned at different times, as appears by records in the county
clerk's office, some two hundred acres of land in and around Northampton.
snip . . .
p. 17 - 18 -- His first wife, whose name and family the author has not been
able to ascertain, he married in England. She died on the passage or soon
after landing; and in about two months afterwards her infant offspring, a
second child, died. also. He married in December, 1630, for a second wife,
Abigail Ford of Dorchester, MA, with whom he lived in wedlock for fifty-eight
years. She died, the mother of 16 children, July 6, 1688, aged about 80; he
died Aprl 14, 1699, aged 94. . . snip . . .
[THOMAS FORD] , father of Mrs. Abigail Ford Strong, came to this country in
the Mary and John (Capt. Squeb) with John Strong, and founded, with the rest
of the company, the new Dorchester of the new world. "Great pains were
taken," it is said in the History of Dorchester, "to construct this company
of such materials as should compose a well ordered settlement, containing all
the elements of an independent community. Several gentlemen past middle
life, with adult families and good estates, were added: Henry Wolcott,
Thomas Ford and four others (mentioned by name) [sic] were of this class." .
. . . . snip . . . . His wife died in Windsor April 18, 1643, and he married
for a 2d wife, Mrs. Ann Scott, widow of Thomas Scott. He removed to
Northampton, and probably at the same time with John Strong in 1659. . . .
He died there Nov. 28, 1676.
He had 4 daughters, if not more, and what sons if any does not appear. His
daughters were: 1. Joanna who married Nov 6 1633, Capt Roger Clapp of
Dorchester. 2. Abigail, wife of Elder John Strong. 3. Hepzibah, who
married Richard Lyman of Northampton . . . . 4. Another daugher of Thomas
Ford, - name unknown - married as his second wife Major Aaron Cook also of
Northampton. . . . .
OK - I'm back. Page 19 lists Elder John's kids, with dates and spouses.
Corrections from last night's epistle:
* Zerubbabel Files or Filer - this books says FILER
* The 2-yr old who arrived with Elder John WAS John JR - I incorrectly said
he died, and incorrectly attributed his birth to Abigail Ford -- he was the
product of the first marriage - and lived to be 72 years old. He married
Mary Clark (bap. Sept 30, 1638 (d/o Joseph Clark of Windsor, CT and Frances
Clark .. . . more data . ), and pages 20 and 21 list his progeny. I suspect
it is incomplete, but maybe not.
* Twins, Samuel and Joseph, were born Aug 5. The 4th WAS a typo.
No date is given for Joseph's death, just says "died young". For some
obscure reason, I did NOT copy Thomas' kids. I must have run out of quarters
or something, for I can find no more. But, with my superb sense of
organization, anything's possible. :-)
That's all for now. Somewhere in here there is mention of some later Strongs
of IL - but I can't for the life of me find it again - at least not this
night. If someone has a burning desire to know what it says, let me know,
and I'll look at it again with fresher eyes.
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: George Strong and Descendants: Four Generations
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:06:17 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-10 21:10:19 EST, rtstrongjr@pog.iquest.com (RT2
Strong) writes:
<< John Strong, III, reportedly had five children before he
died on 20 FEB 1698 at Windsor, Hartford, CT. >>
Since this is a forum for comparing notes - here I go again.
Dwight lists six kids for John, III -- but refers to him as John,
Jr. as he does not - I don't think - go into John, the Elder's
heritage. Hence, no need to designate the Elder as a Jr.,
if you follow. Anyhow. Dwight says the following:
John Strong, Jr. b. in England in 1626 [OK, so he was 4, not
2] m. Nov 26, 1656, Mary Clark (bab. Sept 30, 1638 (d/o Joseph
Clark of Windsor, CT., and Frances Clark -- who m. March 22,
1639, for a second husband, Thomas Dewey of Westfield, MA --
the progenitor of the many Dewey families of this country).
She d. Apr 28, 1663, aged 25. He m. in 1664 for a second wife,
Elizabeth Warriner. He was a tanner at Windsor (as the author
believes), where at any rate he resided and was a man of conse-
quence. He d. Feb. 20, 1697/98; she d. June 7, 1684. Children:
By first wife:
Mary Strong, b. Apr 22, 1658, m. Nov 22, 1676, Timothy Stanley [I
have a couple of snippets abt STANLEY, if anyone needs] of Farm-
ington, CT., and afterwards of Waterbury, CT. She d. in 1722; and
he Nov 26, 1728, without issue.
Hannah Strong, b. Aug 11, 1660, m. in 1693, as his second wife,
Stephen Hopkins (sonfo Stephen Hopkinsof Hartford, CT, and
Dorcas Bronson [also have some more - a little] They had three
children that d. unnamed soonafter their respective births in 1695
and 1697. She d. Nov 1745, aged 85.
By second wife:
John Strong, b. Dec 25, 1665, d. May 29, 1749, aged 84.
Jacob Strong, b. April 8, 1673.
Josiah Strong, b. Jan 11, 1678, d. Apr 5, 1759, aged 80 at Colchester,
CT
Elizabeth Strong, b. abt 1684, m. Thomas Burnham. [as in Stoneleigh-
Burnham Academy for Girls or somesuch?]
It goes on to list 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th generations from John, Jr. (III),
coming down from John, III or IV - we need to settle on nomenclature
here -- and wife Hannah Trumbull of Suffield, CT (d/o Dea. CJohn Trumbull).
[anyoneever hear of Trumbull Airport, New London, CT? - I've even been
there. No great shakes, but it's there.
If anyone is descended from this guy, I have in the back of my head, the
name MARGERY DEANE for John the Elder's first wife -- Obviously,
Deane was a factor in the STRONG family, and maybe it was a factor
twice, but Dwight didn't know about the other. In any case, there is, today,
in Wethersfield, CT, an historical preserve known collectively as
WEBB-DEANE-STEVENS Houses. I suppose they might shedsomelight on
all this.
TTYS
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: George Strong and Descendants: Four Generations [Repost]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:46:04 EST
The following Descendancy Chart was compiled from a
GEDCOM submitted by Robert Edwin Cooper, Jr., a
descendant of Hannah Strong, wife of Capt. William Clark.
Unfortunately, at the moment I cannot locate the U.S.
Mail address for Mr. Cooper.
The Descendancy Chart shows the two wives of the 1630
immigrant to Massachusetts, John Strong, and shows
him to be a John Strong, "Jr.", or John Strong, "II".
According to this and some other accounts, the first wife
and an infant child of John Strong, Jr., either died aboard
ship in 1630 or soon after their arrival, but John Strong, III,
son of John Strong, II, and Eleanor Deane, survived.
John Strong, II, subsequently married Abigail Ford and
together they had 16 children. So John Strong, II,
fathered 18 children by his two wives.
John Strong, III, reportedly had five children before he
died on 20 FEB 1698 at Windsor, Hartford, CT.
Sandi Strong Rowe was correct in pointing out that I had
incorrectly reported the name of the wife of Jedediah
Strong, Sr., in a previous posting. My apologies. It
appears I had difficult following the lines on an Ancestor
Chart I had printed.
The initial attempt to transmit this Descendancy Chart,
with vertical and horizontal lines was not successful,
so the lines have been deleted.
I hope this will be of interest and/or value to some
subscribers to the STRONG Mail List.
Please address corrections or comments to the STRONG
Mail List, rather than to my personal E-Mail address.
Bob Strong, 10 DEC 1995
% STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
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GEORGE STRONG and Descendants, Four Generations
***********************************************************
1. GEORGE STRONG (1560-1635)
sp: not identified (1563-)
1.1. WALTER STRONG (1579-1667)
sp: ANN BOND (1582-1674)
1.1.1. ELIZABETH STRONG (1626-)
1.1.2. MARIE STRONG (1627-)
1.1.3. JOANE STRONG (1628-)
1.1.4. GEORGE STRONG (-)
1.2. JOHN STRONG, I, (1582-1612)
sp: ELEANOR DEANE (1588-1654)
1.2.1. JOHN STRONG, II, Elder (1610-1699)
sp: MARGERY DEANE (1606-1630)
1.2.1.1. JOHN STRONG III (1626-1697)
sp: MARY CLARK (1638-1663)
sp: ELIZABETH WARRENER (1640-1684)
sp: HANNAH TRUMBLE SMITH (-)
1.2.1.2. Infant STRONG (1630-1630)
sp: ABIGAIL FORD (1619-1688)
1.2.1.3. THOMAS STRONG (1633-1689)
sp: MARY HEWETT (1640-1670)
sp: RACHEL HOLTON (1645-)
1.2.1.4. JEDEDIAH STRONG I (1637-1733)
sp: FREEDOM WOODWARD (1642-1681)
sp: ABIGAIL STEBBING (1660-1689)
sp: MARY HART (1641-1710)
1.2.1.5. JOSIAH STRONG (1639-)
1.2.1.6. RETURN STRONG (1641-1726)
sp: SARAH WARHAM (1645-)
sp: MARGARET NEWBERRY (1645-)
1.2.1.7. EBENEZER STRONG (1643-1729)
sp: HANNAH CLAPP (1647-)
sp: ABIGAIL SHARPE (1647-)
1.2.1.8. ABIGAIL STRONG (1645-1704)
sp: NATHANIEL CHAUNCEY (1641-)
sp: Medad POMEROY (1636-)
1.2.1.9. ELIZABETH STRONG (1647-1736)
sp: JOSEPH PARSONS (1647-1729)
1.2.1.10. EXPERIENCE STRONG (1650-1714)
sp: ZERUBBABEL FILER (1646-)
1.2.1.11. SAMUEL STRONG (1652-1732)
sp: RUTH SHELDON (1663-1728)
sp: ESTHER CLAPP (1656-)
1.2.1.12. JOSEPH STRONG (1652-)
1.2.1.13. MARY STRONG (1654-1738)
sp: JOHN CLARK (1651-1704)
1.2.1.14. SARAH STRONG (1656-1733)
sp: JOSEPH BARNARD (1654-)
sp: JONATHAN WELLS (1652-)
1.2.1.15. HANNAH STRONG (1659-1693)
sp: WILLIAM CLARK Capt. (1656-1725)
1.2.1.16. HESTER STRONG (1661-1726)
sp: THOMAS BISSELL (1657-)
1.2.1.17. THANKFUL STRONG (1663-)
sp: JONATHAN BALDWIN (1659-)
1.2.1.18. JERIJAH STRONG (1665-1754)
sp: THANKFUL STEBBINS (1667-)
1.2.2. ELEANOR STRONG (1613-1654)
sp: WALTER DEANE (-1693)
1.2.2.1. MARY DEANE (1638-1691)
sp: SHADRACH WILBORE (1640-1697)
1.2.2.2. LYDIA DEANE (1644-)
sp: BARTHOLOMEW TIPPING (1640-1711)
1.2.2.3. JAMES DEANE (1648-1725)
sp: SARAH TISDALE (1650-1726)
1.2.2.4. EZRA DEANE Dea.2 (1650-1731)
sp: BETHIAH EDSON (1650-)
1.2.2.5 BENJAMIN DEANE (1651-1725)
sp: SARAH WILLIAMS (-)
1.2.2.6. JOSEPH DEANE (1654-1728)
sp: MARY TIPPING (1650-1729)
1.3. WILLIAM STRONG (1583-1613)
sp: MARGARET (1585-1621)
1.3.1. JONE STRONG (1604-)
1.3.2. WILLIAM STRONG (1605-)
1.3.3. SAMUEL STRONG (1606-)
1.4. THOMAS STRONG (1584-1663)
sp: JOANNA BAGGE (1586-)
1.4.1. MARGARET STRONG (1604-)
1.4.2. ELIZABETH STRONG (-)
1.4.3. Lavina STRONG (-)
1.4.4. Daughter STRONG (1609-)
1.4.5. JANE STRONG (1611-1679)
1.4.6. SARAH STRONG (-)
1.4.7. JAMES STRONG (-)
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From: Thomas Strahan
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRAHAN
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:08:40 -0600 (CST)
My surname is documented, unchanged back to the
Revolutionary War. What I am trying to find is someone
with a clue to help find my origin before the War.
STRAHAN: PA > FLeming Co., KY; 1775-1855
STRAHAN: Randolph Co., IND; 1855-Present.
My family is well documented as mentioned above. Along the
way I have uncovered other lines whose spellings vary.
None as STRONG; however, many STRAIN, STRANAHAN,
STRACHAN, STRAYHORN, STRAUN, etc. Even many other
STRAHAN lines I am unable to connect to mine.
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: George Strong and Descendants: Four Generations [Repost]
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:51:22 -0500
Hi there --
I entered the descendants of John Strong, b. 1626 in my database -
the easier to transmit. I'm passing it along mainly for general
interest - and to wonder out loud. This is not my line, but I'd like to
observe that certain like surnames among spouses suggest sibling
relationships and the name "John" seemed to be pretty popular - can't
guess why. John, b. Dec 25 1665 and Hannah Trubulll had one
Jonathan and two Johns, if this is to be believed -- and all lived to
adulthood. Go figure.
At some point in time, I will cross-check some of these against my
Winchell Genealogy. I know already there some very familiar surnames.
If someone has a Windsor line, let me know. I have Winchells and
Ruggleses in that prolifc little town.
I ran the tree from Unnamed - possibly Margery Deane? in order not to
get Strongs by the hundred. This was just for John's kids.
Descendants of
1 b: in England d: 1630
.+John Strong b: 1605 in Somerset, ENG, d: 14 Apr 1699 in Northampton, MA
2 John Strong, b: 1626 in Somerset, ENG, d: 20 Feb 1697/98 in Windsor, CT
....+Mary Clark b: Bef 30 Sep 1638, d: 29 Apr 1663, Father: Joseph Clark,
Mother: Frances (MNU)
...3 Mary Strong b: 22 Apr 1658 d: 1722
.......+Timothy Stanley m: 22 Nov 1722 d: 26 Nov 1728
...3 Hannah Strong b: 11 Aug 1660 d: Nov 1745
.......+Stephen Hopkins, Father: Stephen Hopkins, Mother: Dorcas Bronson
*2nd Wife of John Strong:
....+Elizabeth Warriner m: Aft 28 Apr 1663 d: 7 Jun 1684
...3 John Strong, b: 25 Dec 1665, d: 29 May 1749 in Windsor, CT
.......+Hannah Trumbull, Father: John Trumbull
......4 Mary Strong b: 24 May 1688 d: 12 Dec 1718
......4 Elizabeth Strong b: 21 Sep 1689
......4 Jonathan Strong b: 22 Apr 1694, d: 16 Jul 1763 in Bolton, CT, ?
.......... +Hannah Ellsworth b: 10 Feb 1699/00, d: 9 Oct 1762;
Father: Job Ellsworth Mother: Mary Trumbull
.........5 Jonathan Strong, Jr., b: 19 May 1725, d: 17 Sep 1807 in Orford,
NH, ?
.............+Mary Northam, b: 13 Mar 1724/25, d: 20 Dec 1817
........... 6 Hannah Strong, b: 15 Jul 1751
...............+Edward Sawyer, d: 15 Sep 1815 in Piermont, NH, ?
..............7 Clarissa Sawyer, b: 28 Jun 1772, d: 25 Dec 1842
..................+Daniel Nason, d: in Orford, NH, presumably
..............7 Hannah Sawyer b: 23 Aug 1774
..................+Uri Chandler, d: in Piermont, NH, presumably
..............7 Elizabeth Sawyer, b: 29 Apr 1778, d: 12 May 1812
..................+Luke Chandler
..............7 Lydia Sawyer b: 12 Mar 1783
..................+William Hill, d: in Bradford, VT, ?
..............7 Joseph Sawyer, b: 11 Oct 1785, d: 4 Jul 1858 in Piermont,NH, ?
..................+Mary Dole, d: in Cambridge City, IN, ?
........... 6 Mary Strong b: 25 Nov 1752
...............+Abel Sawyer
........... 6 Sarah Strong, b: 29 Dec 1755
...............+Jonathan Derby
........... 6 Esther Strong, b: 3 Nov 1758
...............+Ichabod Palmer
........... 6 Alexander Strong, b: 15 Jan 1761
........... 6 Jonathan Strong, b: 4 Sep 1764, d: 9 Nov 1814
.........5 Charles Strong b: 14 Apr 1728
.........5 Job Strong b: 13 Jan 1729/30
......4 Esther Strong b: 12 Apr 1699
......4 Abigail Strong b: 11 May 1701
......4 David Strong b: 15 Dec 1704 d: 25 Jan 1801
......4 John Warham Strong b: 30 Sep 1706, d: 25 Sep 1752
......4 John Strong b: 14 Jul 1707 d: 1 Oct 1793
......4 Elizabeth Strong b: 13 Aug 1708
...3 Jacob Strong b: 8 Apr 1673
...3 Josiah Strong b: 11 Jan 1677/78
...3 Elizabeth Strong b: Abt 1684
2 Baby Strong b: 1 Apr 1630, d: 1 Jul 1630
Sandi
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From: veeb@uk.pipeline.com (veeb@uk.pipeline.com)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: Capt John of Rensselaer Co NY
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:45:58 GMT
To: Strong Family Discussion List
From: Lin Van Buren, veeb@uk.pipeline.com
Date: Wed 11 Dec 1996
Subject: Capt John Strong of Rensselaer Co NY
Hello, Strong researchers
I'm Lin, a new member of the group. Are any of you familiar with my HANNAH
OTIS STRONG? She was married on 24 October 1805 at the First Presbyterian
Church of Troy, Rensselaer Co NY to DARIUS PHILLIPS son of the
Revolutionary War soldier ISAAC PHILLIPS of Nassau, Rensselaer Co NY. Her
father is named as CAPTAIN JOHN STRONG. Did any of Capt John Strong's other
children marry Phillipses? Darius Phillips is said to have been born in
Danbury CT; were these Strongs also from Connecticut?
Fingers crossed that someone knows our Hannah! Lin
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong, 1630s immigrant to MA: Selected Bibliography
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:28:13 EST
Following are several books providing genealogies
of descendants of John Strong, who migrated to
Massachusetts in the 1630s.
*******************************************************
Dwight, Benjamin W. THE HISTORY OF THE
DESCENDANTS OF ELDER JOHN STRONG
OR NORTHAMPTON, MASSACHUSETTS.
Two volumes. Albany, NY: J. Munsell,1871.
This set of books traced over 26,000 descendants,
plus it included a few Strongs in an Appendix who
could not be connected to this family at the time of
publication.
In 1984, the two volumes by Dwight were reprinted
by Jarvis Strong, 1513 Cameron Crescent Drive,
Reston, Virginia 22090. The price to SFAA
members in 1987 was $75.00 for one set of two
volumes. Jarvis Strong should be contacted
regarding availability and current price.
********************************************************
A decision was made at the 1983 annual National
Convention of the Strong Family Association of
America (SFAA) to update Dwight's history. Four
updates have since been published and are available
for sale through the SFAA. The price of each is
$45 to SFAA members and $50 to non-members.
These prices including postage and handling.
Order from Harold Strong, 165 State Route 38,
Owego, New York 13827. The following descriptions
are direct quotations from Volume V, page ix.
"THE FIRST BOOK, Volume I, the Jedediah Line
from Elder John Strong contains 1,162 pages, more
than 35,000 names and was published in July 1989.
This hardbound book matches the original genealogical
publication..."
"THE SECOND BOOK, Volume II, the Thomas Line
from Elder John Strong was published in June 1990.
This volume is the approximate size of Volume I
and matches it in appearance and quality..."
"THE THIRD BOOK, Volume III, includes some of the
descendants of nine of the children of Elder John
Strong and was published in Juine 1992. It includes
some of the descendants of John, Jr., Abigail, Hannah,
Experience, Samuel, Sarah, Hester/Esther, Thankful
and Jerijah Strong. It is of a size and appearance
of the first two books..."
"THE FOURTH BOOK, Volume IV, includes some of
the descendants of the remaining Elder John Strong
children; Return, Ebenezer, Elizabeth and Mary,
published in April 1995. It also includes some of
the descendants of his sister Eleanor Strong Dean
and of his first cousin Jane Stronge Hopkins..."
*********************************************************
"THE FIFTH BOOK, Volume V, includes some of the
descendants of Strong families that are known not
to be descended from Elder John Strong. It also
contains come Strong families that are not cognizant
of thier origin. This book was published in May 1996.
The price for this book is $40.00."
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: Capt John of Rensselaer Co., NY
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:06:15 EST
On Wed., 11 DEC 1996, Lin Van Buren
(veeb@uk.pipeline.com) wrote to the Strong Family
Discussion List
>Hello, Strong researchers
>I'm Lin, a new member of the group.
>Are any of you familiar with my HANNAH OTIS STRONG?
>She was married on 24 October 1805 at the First Presbyterian
>Church of Troy, Rensselaer Co NY to DARIUS PHILLIPS,
>son of the Revolutionary War soldier ISAAC PHILLIPS of
>Nassau, Rensselaer Co NY. Her father is named as CAPTAIN
>JOHN STRONG. Did any of Capt John Strong's other
>children marry Phillipses? Darius Phillips is said to have
>been born in Danbury CT; were these Strongs also from
>Connecticut?
>Fingers crossed that someone knows our Hannah!
>Lin
******************************************************************
Welcome to our Strong family discussion group, Lin.
We are a new group with only a few members so far. At
least two others on the Mail List are descendants of John
Strong, tanner and Church Elder, the immigrant to
Massachusetts in the 1630s. Cleta Terrell is descended
from Phineas Strong, who died about 1773 in Coventry,
Tolland Co., CT. You might be interested in chatting
with her here on the STRONG Mail List.
Don't be disappointed if no one has an answer for your
query immediately, but keep reposting periodically, about
every month. As new subscribers join, hopefully you will be
able to make some connections.
Yes, there were Strongs in Connecticut in the 1700s.
John Strong [II], tanner and Church Elder, the 1630s
immigrant to Massachusetts, resided for a time at Windsor,
Hartford Co., CT, and his eldest son, John Strong [III],
married there, and died there in 1698. I have no data
on the descendants of John Strong [III]. Records do
indicate that some Strongs from Windsor, CT, migrated
to New Lebanon County, CT.
Several Strong family historians has submitted to me their
computerized databases (GEDCOMs), which I have
checked for you, but I cannot identify your Hannah Otis
Strong. One of these databases contains a number of
persons named Phillips, but not your Darius Phillips.
I have also checked STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES,
Volume V, published by the Strong Family Association
of America (SFAA) in 1996. There is a section in this
book entitled "John Strong of Connecticut", pages
218-246, which gives absolutely no information
about John Strong of Connecticut. The account
begins with Asa Strong, b. in the 1780s in CT, who
is reported to be a son of John Strong. Could Asa
Strong, who married about 1808 at Spencertown
(now Chatham), Columbia County, NY, be a brother
to your Hannah Otis Strong? The data in this
section of the book was submitted by the following
persons, whom you might want to contact:
Mrs. Betty Lou (McGinley) Wiliams, 226 West
406 North, Valparaiso, Indiana 46383-8805
Mrs. Dorothy L. (Strong) Bradley, 629 North
Yellowstone, Livingston, Montana 59047
Mrs. Mary Jean (Thornburg) Fugate, 2357
Blossom Street, Dos Palos, California 93620
Mrs. Carolyn (Weil) Surine, 668 Lilse Road,
Owego, New York 13827
Where are you located? I am wondering, for example, if
you happen to be near Rochester, NY, where some
Strong references are available in the Library?
Are you familiar with the Strong Family Association of
America (SFAA)? Yesterday I posted a list of books
regarding Strong families that originated in New England,
most of which were compiled by the SFAA. Maybe you
can find an answer in one of these books.
You might want to check Volume I of the STRONG
FAMILY HISTORIES set by the SFAA for data on
John Strong [III] and his descendants. He will
probably be called John Strong, Jr., in that book.
Thanks for joining our discussion. We would like to learn
more about your Hannah Strong and her descendants.
And, hopefully, we can discover her Strong ancestry, too.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., List Manager
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong, Jr. [III] of Windsor, CT
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:36:03 EST
Sandi:
Thanks for posting this data on John Strong, Jr. [III].
What was the source of the data? Does your source
provide later generations of of this line? Our new
subscriber, Lin Van Buren, might be interesed in
later generations of this Strong family in Connecticut.
Some of the lines in your chart were too long and were
broken in the transmission, so I have reformatted it a bit.
A diskette was mailed to you today. The zipped file
contains four Strong GEDCOMS. I would like to add
your own GEDCOM and the GEDCOMs of other
subscribers to the Strong Mail List to this collection,
whenever available. By building a common database,
we can more easily establish connections.
Bob Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr.,
119 Mystic Way, Lori's Landing S/D
Monrovia Community
Madison, AL 35758-7113
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: George Strong and Descendants: Four Generations [Repost]
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:51:22 -0500
Message-ID:
Hi there --
I entered the descendants of John Strong, b. 1626 in my database -
the easier to transmit. I'm passing it along mainly for general
interest - and to wonder out loud. This is not my line, but I'd like to
observe that certain like surnames among spouses suggest sibling
relationships and the name "John" seemed to be pretty popular - can't
guess why. John, b. Dec 25 1665 and Hannah Trubulll had one
Jonathan and two Johns, if this is to be believed -- and all lived to
adulthood. Go figure.
At some point in time, I will cross-check some of these against my
Winchell Genealogy. I know already there some very familiar surnames.
If someone has a Windsor line, let me know. I have Winchells and
Ruggleses in that prolifc little town.
I ran the tree from Unnamed - possibly Margery Deane? in order not to
get Strongs by the hundred. This was just for John's kids.
Descendants of
1 Margery Deane b: in England
d: 1630
.+John Strong b: 1605 in Somerset, ENG,
d: 14 Apr 1699 in Northampton, MA
2 John Strong, b: 1626 in Somerset, ENG,
d: 20 Feb 1697/98 in Windsor, CT
....+Mary Clark b: Bef 30 Sep 1638,
d: 29 Apr 1663,
Father: Joseph Clark,
Mother: Frances (MNU)
...3 Mary Strong b: 22 Apr 1658
d: 1722
.......+Timothy Stanley
m: 22 Nov 1722
d: 26 Nov 1728
...3 Hannah Strong b: 11 Aug 1660
d: Nov 1745
.......+Stephen Hopkins,
Father: Stephen Hopkins,
Mother: Dorcas Bronson
*2nd Wife of John Strong:
....+Elizabeth Warriner
m: Aft 28 Apr 1663
d: 7 Jun 1684
...3 John Strong, b: 25 Dec 1665,
d: 29 May 1749 in Windsor, CT
.......+Hannah Trumbull,
Father: John Trumbull
......4 Mary Strong b: 24 May 1688
d: 12 Dec 1718
......4 Elizabeth Strong b: 21 Sep 1689
......4 Jonathan Strong b: 22 Apr 1694,
d: 16 Jul 1763 in Bolton, CT, ?
..........+Hannah Ellsworth b: 10 Feb 1699/00,
d: 9 Oct 1762;
Father: Job Ellsworth
Mother: Mary Trumbull
.........5 Jonathan Strong, Jr., b: 19 May 1725,
d: 17 Sep 1807 in Orford,
NH, ?
.............+Mary Northam, b: 13 Mar 1724/25,
d: 20 Dec 1817
........... 6 Hannah Strong, b: 15 Jul
1751
.................+Edward Sawyer, d: 15 Sep 1815 in Piermont, NH, ?
.................7 Clarissa Sawyer, b: 28 Jun 1772, d: 25 Dec
1842
....................+Daniel Nason, d: in Orford, NH, presumably
.................7 Hannah Sawyer b: 23 Aug
1774
....................+Uri Chandler, d: in Piermont, NH, presumably
.................7 Elizabeth Sawyer, b: 29 Apr 1778, d: 12 May
1812
.....................+Luke Chandler
.................7 Lydia Sawyer b: 12 Mar
1783
.....................+William Hill, d: in Bradford, VT, ?
.................7 Joseph Sawyer, b: 11 Oct 1785,
d: 4 Jul 1858 in Piermont,
NH, ?
..................+Mary Dole, d: in Cambridge City, IN, ?
........... 6 Mary Strong b: 25 Nov
1752
..................+Abel Sawyer
........... 6 Sarah Strong, b: 29 Dec
1755
..................+Jonathan Derby
........... 6 Esther Strong, b: 3 Nov
1758
..................+Ichabod Palmer
........... 6 Alexander Strong, b: 15 Jan
1761
........... 6 Jonathan Strong, b: 4 Sep 1764,
d: 9 Nov 1814
.........5 Charles Strong b: 14 Apr 1728
.........5 Job Strong b: 13 Jan 1729/30
......4 Esther Strong b: 12 Apr 1699
......4 Abigail Strong b: 11 May 1701
......4 David Strong b: 15 Dec 1704
d: 25 Jan 1801
......4 John Warham Strong b: 30 Sep 1706,
d: 25 Sep 1752
......4 John Strong b: 14 Jul 1707
d: 1 Oct 1793
......4 Elizabeth Strong b: 13 Aug 1708
...3 Jacob Strong b: 8 Apr 1673
...3 Josiah Strong b: 11 Jan 1677/78
...3 Elizabeth Strong b: Abt 1684
2 Baby Strong b: 1 Apr 1630,
d: 1 Jul 1630
Sandi Strong Rowe
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: John Strong, Jr. [III] of Windsor, CT
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 21:00:41 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-12 14:40:17 EST, rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T.
Strong) writes:
<< this data on John Strong, Jr. [III].
What was the source of the data? Does your source
provide later generations of of this line? >>
I guess I should have mentioned that. In my mind, it
was a continutation of the post fromthe previous
evening - it came from Dwight, p. 20-21. Aparently, I
managed to xerox a few pages when I first came
across Dwight - why Pi picked this page is beyond me,
but there it is. I suspect that there is more, but I can't
swear to it. If I'm breaking the code the right way,
yes, there's more. Just not in my possession. The
latest birth date I see is 1785 which leaves nearly a
hundred years of data that was probably collected, at
least in part, by Dwight. The lates death date I see is
1861 - ten years before Dwight wrote this work.
I commented yesterday that there were a fair number
of John/Jonathans in this line -- I think Hannah comes
in second.
BTW - I had a question mark ( ? ) after Margery Deane's
name - I have only seen this once - and it wasn't in
Dwight. I would like to kow what the name was and have
the source cited if anyone knows.
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From: veeb@uk.pipeline.com (veeb@uk.pipeline.com)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: John of Windsor CT & John of Rensselaer Co NY
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 03:25:03 GMT
To: Robert T. Strong, rtstrongjr@juno.com
From: Lin Van Buren, veeb@uk.pipeline.com
Date: Thurs 12 Dec 1996
Subject: Sandi's early John Strong & my later one
Hello, Bob
Just wanted to thank you for your posting and for the hint that the family
Sandi Strong Rowe of varow48@aol.com posted might be the one into which the
18th-century John Strong of Rensselaer Co NY fits. I'll be eagerly awaiting
her posting in reply!
Thanks in advance, Sandi, and also thanks for the earlier posting - it was
especially kind of you since, as you said, it isn't even your line.
Lin
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
On Dec 12, 1996 14:36:03, 'rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)' wrote:
>Subject: John Strong, Jr. [III] of Windsor, CT
>Sandi:
>Thanks for posting this data on John Strong, Jr. [III].
What was the source of the data? Does your source
provide later generations of of this line? Our new
subscriber, Lin Van Buren, might be interesed in
later generations of this Strong family in Connecticut.
>Bob Strong, List Manager
>Robert T. Strong, Jr.,
>119 Mystic Way, Lori's Landing S/D
>Monrovia Community
>Madison, AL 35758-7113
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: John Strong, Jr. [III] of Windsor, CT
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 01:07:18 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-12 22:09:30 EST, Varow48@aol.com writes:
<< . . . .it was a >> continutation << of the post
<< fromthe >> previous evening - it came from Dwight,
p. 20-21. << Aparently, >> I managed to xerox a few
pages when I first came across Dwight - why << Pi >>
My old typing teacher must be spinnin'!!!!!!!!
Hope you guys are as good at translating Gibberish
into the English as you are at genealogy! :-)
Lin & Cleta -- I wish I could be more encouraging, but
all I'm doing is going through old data. I happen to
have - as I guess most early New England descendants
do - several well-established lines there, and I dl GEDs
from time to time. I also have the Winchell Genealogy
which a dear friend conned his son into xeroxing for me.
So I'm happy to look.
While I was looking, I found a Lewerent Strong who came
to the US from Scotland - abt 1800 I think, but of course
I forgot already. Two or three generations are listed.
They appear to be basically in IN and IL.
I also found one that had listed John (1626) and his
progeny. There's more in that database than what I
posted last night. Realistically, there has to be or the
author probably wouldn't have it. Other lines are absent.
From that GED, at least. But no Hannah.
BTW -- In revisiting Dwight, I realize that he is probably
promoting the William Brewster nonsense I mentioned
the first time I wrote. If not, he's the one who wrote it.
I am taking the time and space to do this because I
have been admonished, I guess is the right word, to be
sure to tell all who will listen when a mistake has been
discovered -- "especially one of this magnitude."
Actually, I think the author of that quote was referring to
the stupidity which produced it. It seems that ??
Thompson is the purported idiot. I think it was in the
mid-1800's that this guy wrote up a genealogical article
for a Long Island Genealogical Journal, stating that the
assorted Hannah Brewsters in my line, which includes
marriages to both Strongs and Thompsons, were all
descendants of William Brewster. He said that Jonathan
Brewster had Hannah and Nathaniel, and that Nathaniel
also had a Hannah, and both these Hannahs, as well
as a third one married into my lines. Information that
makes this erroneous was available when he wrote the
article, and it was a shameless display of poor research.
At least two of the Hannahs Thompson attributed to Wm
Brewster came from Francis Brewster of New Haven. I
have quite a few of Francis' descendants if anyone needs.
The other reason I mention this here is to alert all that
Dwight included this error in his book, and where
there's one, there MAY be many. I guess it's also a
good place to remind everyone that what we find in
books is cool - - but should be corroborated with at
least two other and if possible with a primary proof.
One more product of my scanning is that there are
three Strongs in the Winchell book. Along with
numerous other surnames I see in Strong lines. They
are Lucy, Clarissa and Moses. I also saw Medad
Pomeroy - the name of Abigail's, d/o John Strong
(1605) second husband (b. 1636). This Medad was
born 18 jul 1695 in Northampton, MA and married
Hannah Trumble, d/o John Trumble and Elizabeth
Winchell. I have a little more on Trumble if you want
it, but I thought it too close for a coincidence. I sus
pect the Winchell-Pomeroy marriage has a Strong
offspring playing the part of the groom. Hunch only.
S
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong of New Kent Co., VA: Selected Bibliography
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 01:28:54 EST
The following two books provide genealogical data
regarding John Strong, resident of New Kent County,
Virginia, 1698-1703, presumed immigrant, and his
descendants. Church records documented the
infant christenings of three sons: John, William,
and George. (There may have been other children
who are not documented in church records due to
changes in county and parish boundires and the
lack of preservation of records in some of these
subdivisions. No other children have been proved.)
**********************************************************
Rolff, James Robert. STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA
AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES. (c) 1982, the
author. Current address: 9101 East Main Street,
Galesburg, Michigan 49053. (c) 1982. Price in 1983:
$35.00, including postage. Mimeographed. Hard bound.
Index of surnames.
The author may still have a few copies of his book
for sale.
"Jim" Rolff is the husband of Sandra Strong.
For several years in the early 1980s, "Jim" Rolff
operated a "Strongs of the South" Newsletter.
Numerous Strong family historians made contributions
to the Newletter. The book is based partly on "Jim"
Rolff's personal research into his wife's Strong
ancestry and parly on contributed data. Roughly
half of the book concerns the descendants of William
Strong of eastern Hanover County, VA, and Pittsylvania
County, VA. Roughly a third of the book concerns the
descendants of John Strong, Jr., of westen Hanover
County, VA. The data on the William Strong family is
generally reliable, except for the chapter on Elizabeth
Strong. The wrong Elizabeth Strong was discussed.
The presentation of the data on the John Strong, Jr.,
family, particularly my ancestors, Martin Strong and
Anne Stanley Strong, is somewhat confused, partly
because the book was written prior to the "discovery"
of some important facts, and partly due to too much
speculation by the author. However, there are many
facts included that will be of value to reseachers of this
family. No data regarding George Strong, the third
proven son of John Strong, Sr., has been found. Data
are included about a second Strong family in western
Hanover County that included a younger Martin Strong.
This family is theorized to be descended from George
Strong, but evidence is absent. The author did not
adequately differentiate the two Martin Strongs, and
was confused about which was the probable husband
of Anne Stanley. For more discussion, see the
Introduction to the section on John Strong, Sr., in the
following reference.
Someone computerized the data from Rolff's book and
submitted it to the LDS Family History Center, where it
can be found in the Ancestral File, including errors in
the book, partly caused by reporting the author's
speculations as facts. For example, Rolff guesed that
the wife of John Strong, Sr., might have been a Miss
Sherwood, because the name Sherwood Strong recurred
several times in the descendants of this family. On the
Ancestral File, it is reported that John Strong, Sr.,
married a Miss Sherwood. There is no record which
supports this assertion. Rolff also theorized that a
Nathaniel Strong family from Norfolk County, VA, might
be descended from John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County.
On the LDS Ancestral File, this is reported as a fact.
There is no documentation which proves this conclusion.
**************************************************************
Update Committee, The Strong Family Association of America.
STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME V, Some Families
of Strong That Are Known Not to be Descended From Elder
John Strong of Northampton, Massachusetts. Published for
SFAA by Edwards Brothers, Inc., 2500 South State Street,
Ann Arbor, MI 48106-1007. (c) 1996, SFAA. Order from:
Harold Strong, 165 State Route 38, Owego, NY 13827.
Price: $40.00, including postage.
Pages 262-480 concern "John Strong of New Kent County,
Virginia" and his descendants. Sub-sections included are
Introduction, Forward, First Five Generations, Sherwood
Strong [III], Mastin Strong, Robert Strong, Sherwood
Strong [II], Johnson Strong, John Strong, George Strong,
Nathan Strong, William Strong, Samuel Strong, and
Thomas Strong.
There are sections on other important "Southern" Strong
families: "Christopher Strong of Scotland", who resided in
South Carolina and Tennessee, and "Edward Strong of
Norfolk, Virginia". Lesser know families originally in the
South are "Thomas Strong of North Carolina" and "William
Strong of Alabama".
This book is not limited to "Southern" Strongs, however.
There are many sections dealing with Strongs above the
Mason-Dixon Line who have not been connected to the
John Strong family of Northampton, Massachusetts.
Unexpected sections in the book deal with "George Stronge
of Chardstock, Dorset, England" and "William Strong of Chard,
Sommerset, England". The first of these two sections treats
ancestors and relatives of John Strong of Northampton,
Massachusetts.
The book consists mainly of genealogical tables, with little
exposition. "Just the facts."
At the end of each section is a list of names and addresses
of contributors of data in that section.
There is an excellent full name index.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 02:29:10 EST
Messages addressed to
are being "bounced". Since I have no way of
contacting this subscriber, his/her name is being
deleted from the STRONG Mail List. Does anyone
have a correct E-Mail address? If not, the
individual will need to re-subscribe.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong,"Elder", of MA, and descendants: Selected Bibliography
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:54:11 EST
Did you receive a message from me regarding the
above Subject? It either did not come back to me
via the Strong Mail List, or I have inadvertantly
deleted my only copy. Would someone please
forward a copy back to me? Thanks.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG Mail LIst, Friday the 13th December, 1996
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:54:11 EST
Members of list 'STRONG' as at Fri, 13 Dec 96 2:07 CST:
Descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell) [Thomas Strong line]
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe) [Thomas Strong line]
Descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong) [John Strong, Jr., line]
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird) [William Strong, Sr., line]
Descendant of Capt John Strong of CT & Rensselaer Co., NY
veeb@uk.pipeline.com (Lin Van Buren)
Descendant of Strahan
tstrahan@sound.net (Thomas Strahan) [PA > KY > IN]
Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
posted their lineage. Please tell us something about your
lineage or connection to Strong, Strang, Straughan, etc.!
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov
70771.1421@CompuServe.COM
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
strong@seranis.com.au
Removed from List; Addressee unknown@domain.
All mail being returned as undeliverable.
woodlynl@zapcom.net
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Margery (Deane) STRONG
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:58:02 EST
Source: STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME V,
"George Strong of Chard, Somerset, England", page 633,
"#3-19 Elder John Strong". The following in NOT a
direct quotation but has been edited to improve clarity.
[Elder] John Strong, son of John Strong, #5, born
about 1610 in Chard, Somerset, England, died April 14,
1699, in Northampton, Massachusetts, where he is
buried. He married, first, about 1632 in England,
MARGERY DEANE, daughter of William Deane...[she]
died [along] with an infant about 1635 in Hingham or
Taunton, Massachusetts. [John Strong] married, second,
in 1635 at Dorchester, Massachusetts, ABIGAIL FORD,
daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth (Charde) Ford.
[Abigail was] baptized October 8, 1619 in "Bridport",
Dorset [Shire], England; [she] died July 16, 1688 in
Northampton, Massachusetts.
Children by Margery:
35. John Strong
Married, first, Mary Clark
Married, second, Elizabeth Warriner
Married, third, [Mrs.] Hannah (nee Smith) Trumble,
widow of Joseph Trumble
36. Infant
Children by Abigail [16 children and their spouses named]
------------------------------------------------------------------
March 20, 1630 - Plymouth
Landed - Nantasket, Massachusetts, May 20, 1630.
Ship "Hopewell", John Driver, Master for Massachusetts
Bay of New England. May 8 - Weymouth.
"Jon Stronge for himself and family, and goods"
(Book #58B, entitled "Index of Ships and Passengers
to the American Colonies". Exchequer K.R. 1618-1668.
Copied from Port Book E 190/876/1.
Secondary reference: Jeanne Waters Strong in
"Strong Family Newsletter" [specific volume, issue, and
page numbers not cited]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Elder] John Strong's residences:
Hingham, Massachusetts, in 1635
Taunton, Massachusetts, in 1638
Windson, Connecticut, in 1646
Northampton, Massachusetts, in 1659
John Strong, Walter Deane, and John Deane were
admitted freemen of the Plymouth Colony, December 4,
1638.
John Stronge is listed as able to bear arms in 1643,
Taunton, Massachusetts.
****************************************************************
COMMENTS:
The year of birth of John Strong, Sr., [church Elder] and his
son, John Strong, Jr., have obviously been estimated in various
accounts, as has been the date of the first marriage of John
Strong, Sr. How accurate is the estimation of the year of birth
of John Strong, Jr.? It is likely an estimation based on the
assumed date of arrival: in 1630 by some accounts and in
1635 by other accounts. What is clear, however, is that John
Strong, Sr., was married to Margery Deane at least nine months
before the birth of John Strong, Jr. If John Strong, Jr., was
born in 1626, as reported in some accounts, then John Strong,
Sr., was likely married by 1625 and was likely born at least
20 years earlier. If, on the other hand, John Strong, Jr., was
only a young lad in 1635, then these estimations are off by about
five years.
At least one writer has speculated that John Strong, Sr., [Elder]
arrived in Massachusetts in 1630, then returned to England,
married and started a family, then returned to Massachusetts
in 1635, his wife and infant child either dying on board ship
or soon after arrival in Massachusetts. Then John Strong, Sr.,
quickly married Abigail Ford in December, 1635, in order to
provide a mother for his young son. If this is the case, then
John Strong, Jr., was not born until after 1630. For further
discussion, see the article entitled "Was John Strong on the
[ship] 'Mary and John' in 1630?" by Burton W. Spear on pages
1-2 in the Strong Newsletter, Volume 14, Issue 3, October, 1988,
published by the Strong Family Association of America (SFAA).
A 1632 marriage to Margery Deane is consistent with the
theory of a return trip to England by John Strong, Sr.
However, the ship record cited above appears to imply that
the John Strong who debarked in 1630 was accompanied
by a family. Was this the same John Strong in 1630 who
married Abigail Ford in 1635? Could there have been
TWO John Strongs involved in these records?
It has been reported that John Strong, Sr. [Elder] and his
first wife, Margery Deane, were first cousins. More information
is needed about the Deane family to evaluate the accuracy
of this statement. A common grandfather is implied. Who
was the common grandfather: the father of William Deane
(father of Margery) and the father of Eleanor Deane Strong
(mother of John Strong, Sr., of Massachusetts)?
Did John Strong come to Massachusetts as an indentured
servant? If so, the date he became a freeman should
indicate when he arrived in the colony, assuming one
knows the term of the indenture [deed or contract].
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr.
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: Margery (Deane) STRONG
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:31:28 -0500
Greetings --
I don't know, Bob. I thought it was pretty well-established that [Elder]
John came over on the Mary & John. I also thought the passenger list of the
Hopewell was petty well-established and that he wasn't on it. He is listed
as arriving in 1630 in the Index of Passengers and Immigrants or whatever the
proper name of that massive volume is called. I'm drawing on memory here,
not looking at anything.
I fully understand how legend becomes 'truth' - repeat it often enough, and
it becomes truth, right? But I am highly skeptical of this article. Thomas'
birthdate has been estimated as 1633 in Dorchester, his death as 3 oct 1689,
aged abt 56. Granted, this is estimation, but a 1633 birth would certainly
argue against a 1635 birth for his older brother John. If that were correct,
and we accept Thomas was the eldest of the second 'litter', Thomas would have
to have been born abt 1642, and the firm dates beginning 7 may 1637, 1639,
1641 etc. for his siblings being similarly off.
Since both [Elder] John and his son Thomas were Elders in Northampton, it
would seem that now is a good time to write to Northampton, and see what the
local historical society has to say about it. Another son, Ebenezer, was
also an elder, but I think in another town. Not sure.
Your post did arrive, as it turns out, as I was trying to sort out a cluster
of other mysteries. In my Winchell Genealogy, there are a couple of
generations of STANLEYs. that surname came up as I was transcribing John
Strong (1626) descendancy, along with the name TRUMBULL. So I turned to the
WG, and checked it out. There are a number of names that can't help but be
related - probably very closely. Among them appears Benet (Benedicta
SHEPARD, d/o John, s/o Thomas) You may recall that I have a few Thomas
Shepard Strongs in my lineage, the middle name coming from Anna Shepard, s/o
Thomas Shepard (not the same one) who married William Smith in LI and had
Anna Smith, w/o Selah Strong (1737). The other name that mystifies is Medad
Pomeroy. I've seen it twice, roughly a generation apart, and in connection
with Strongs in Winsor/Suffield. Oddly, one of the GEDs I picked up, has
Margaret Pomeroy in it, same time and place. Not so oddly, I guess, huh?
anyone have any pieces of this puzzle? I'm all ears.
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Sanford B. Hunt: new Subscriber to STRONG Mail List
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 05:44:48 EST
At my invitation,Sanford B. Hunt is joining the
STRONG Family Discussion Group to serve as
as resource person, particularly for the Hannah
Strong line and the Elizabeth Strong line, from
which he descends. He has two E-Mail
addresses:
sbh3@prodigy.com
sbh3@juno.com
"Sandy" is retired from the U. S. Air Force with
the rank of Colonel at the time of retirement.
Following is a brief introductory statement.
An invitation has also been extened to Lyle
A. Strong, associate historian, Strong Family
Association of America, to join the list. Lyle
was heavily involved in the publication of STRONG
FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME V, released 1996.
His reply is forthcoming.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong,Jr., List Manager
****************************************************
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From: sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: Not on the list
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:46:13 EST
Hunt, Sanford Beebe, Lubbock TX sbh3@juno.com,
descendant of Hannah #2-29; also of Elizabeth #6123.
See pages 510-517 Strong Family up-date Vol III.
See also pg 512 William Hudson Hunt #27-last week
discovery of entire colony of descendants in Bristish
Columbia and Calgary.
sbh
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: Sanford B. Hunt: new Subscriber to STRONG Mail List
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:45:18 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-14 05:46:50 EST, rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T.
Strong) writes:
<< At my invitation,Sanford B. Hunt is joining the
STRONG Family Discussion Group to serve as
as resource person, particularly for the Hannah
Strong line and the Elizabeth Strong line, from
which he descends. He has two E-Mail
addresses:
sbh3@prodigy.com
sbh3@juno.com
"Sandy" is retired from the U. S. Air Force with
the rank of Colonel at the time of retirement.
Following is a brief introductory statement.
. . . . snip . . . .
Hunt, Sanford Beebe, Lubbock TX sbh3@juno.com,
descendant of Hannah #2-29; also of Elizabeth #6123.
See pages 510-517 Strong Family up-date Vol III.
See also pg 512 William Hudson Hunt #27-last week
discovery of entire colony of descendants in Bristish
Columbia and Calgary.
sbh >>
Welcome, Sandy -- Can't wait to see your Elizabeth
and Hannah lines -- I think they will answer some
questions for me. I'm descended from Thomas
through Selah.
Sandi
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong [1665]
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:25:00 -0500
I previously presented what descendants of John [1626]
I could find on pp 20-21 of Dwight. Here is a section of
that line in order to highlight a question - actually two:
Descendants of John Strong - [1665]
1 John Strong b: 25 Dec 1665, d: 29 May 1749
# +Hannah Trumbull
2 Mary Strong b: 24 May 1688
2 Elizabeth Strong b: 21 Sep 1689
* 2 Dea. Jonathan Strong b: 22 Apr 1694
d. 16 Jul 1763
m. Hannah Ellsworth,
# d/o Capt Job Ellsworth and Mary Trumbull
2 Esther Strong b: 12 Apr 1699
2 Abigal Strong b: 11 May 1701
2 David Strong b: 15 Dec 1704
* 2 John Warham Strong b: 30 Sep 1706,
d. 25 Sep 1752
* 2 John Strong b: 14 Jul 1707, d. 1 Oct 1793
2 Elizabeth Strong b: 13 Aug 1708
* Question 1: It seems unusual to have three kids with
the same or similar name in one family when all three
reached adulthood. The last two Johns are 10 1/2 mos
apart which isn't impossible, just unusual given the way
the female body works, given the practice of nursing
babies. Yeah, I know, wet-nurses, and nursing isn't for
everybody, and other easons may have prevented it.
It's just a second reason to take another look at the two
Johns.
# Question 2: The Trumbull Connection: Besides these
mentions of Trumbull, I have in the Winchell book,
Elizabeth Winchell, b. Windsor, 7 Dec 1675; m. John
Trumble, s/o Joseph Trumble of Suffield, the pioneer, and
brother of Joseph Trumble of Suffield, then Lebanon, and
this brother Joseph was the father of Bro. Jonathan, CT's
Revolutionary War Governor. Elizabeth and John had 7
kids, including Hannah, b. 2 cot 1697 who m. Medad
Pomeroy - there's a Strong girl who m. a Medad Pomeroy
a generation earlier - and Mary, m. thomas Sencer and John,
plus another son and three daughters, not named.
What's the Connection?
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong [1665-1749] of Windsor, CT
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:08:54 EST
On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:25
Sandi S. Rowe (Varow48@aol.com) wrote:
>I previously presented what descendants of John [1626]
>I could find on pp 20-21 of Dwight. Here is a section of
>that line in order to highlight a question - actually two:
>
>Descendants of John Strong - [1665]
>
>1 John Strong b: 25 Dec 1665,
d: 29 May 1749
> +Hannah Trumbull
>Sandi
********************************************************************
Hi, Sandi: With two jobs and being a mother, I am amazed
at how prolific you have been in corresponding about the
Strongs!
Did you notice in my post re Margery Deane Strong that
Mrs. Hannah Trumbull was reported to be the third wife of
John Strong [Jr.], son of the church elder, John Strong?
One of these two genealogies has got to be incorrect.
Are you still quoting from Dwight's genealogy?
Until we can find documentation regarding the date of birth
of John Strong [Jr.], the most accurate statement we can
make is that he was born "before 1635".
I searched the Ford-Strong Database and found a John
Strong, b. 1665 and d. 1749. In this record, the parents
of John (1665-1749) are not identified. His wife is named
as Mary Pinney, born 16 JUN 1667 in Windsor, Hartford
Co., CT; died 4 JUL 1747, Easty Windsor, CT. They
were the parents of Sarah Strong and Esther Strong, both
born in Windsor, Hartford Co., CT. Sarah was born
about 1697. On 27 JUN 1717, Sarah married Thomas
Clark, a grandson of John and Abigail (Ford) Strong.
Sarah died 18 SEP 1749 in Waterbury, CT. No children
were reported in the database for Thomas and Sarah
(Strong) Clark. Esther Strong was born 12 APR 1699
and she died on 20 NOV 1760 in Lebanon, CT, where
she married Gresham Clark on 26 OCT 1725. This
couple had two daughters: Mary m. Elijah Hyde, and
Esther m. Elijah Lyman.
The database contained no information on the
two John Strongs and Jonathan Strong that you
listed as children of John Strong (1665-1747).
COMMENTS:
I am only reporting what is in the database and cannot
vouch for the accuracy of the data.
Because of the date and place of birth of John Strong
(1665 in Windsor, CT), it would seem logical to me that
he would have been a son of John Strong, Jr., born
before 1635. There is possibly no documentation to
prove this, however.
This appears to be another example of the perennial
problem of failure to adequately differentiate among
several persons of the same name at the same place
at the same time. It appears that two or more
families of John Strongs are included in your
family group sheet. If so, this would explain there
being more than one son with the same name.
"Hester" was a frequent nickname for girls named
Esther or Easter.
In Davidson and Sumner Counties, Tennessee, about
1830s there was a young law student named Lyman
Strong. I last found him on the 1840 census of Shelby
County, TN (probably in Memphis). Around 1830 he
was residing in the same vicinity with my ancestors,
Sherwood Strong and Isham Strong, but why would
my ancestors name a son "Lyman"? I have long
suspected Lyman Strong was descended from the
Strongs and Lymans of New England, but as yet no
proof has been found.
Hope this clarifies some of the confusion.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Sanford B. Hunt is now on the Strong Mail List
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:25:23 EST
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From: sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 15:18:47 EST
>Dear Bob-
>I think the JUNO address is faster and less troublesome.
>I would appreciate a slight change in your remarks. Not that I am
>sensitive about it but you might change "US AirForce" to read
>"United States Marines (Ret)"
>Sandy in Lubbock
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My apologies about the error, Sandy. I realized the mistake
after I had uploaded the message to the List. It's kind of
hard to think about a Marine being out there on the high
and DRY Texas plains! That's Air Force territory--plenty
of room for l-o-n-g runways.
The order to remove the Prodigy address from the Mail
List is in the mail. You will receive the Mail List at
your < sbh3@juno.com > address.
Welcome aboard!
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong: Immigrant, Tanner, Church Elder
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:13:07 EST
Going through my paper files I rediscovered the
following article, which I had photocopied nearly
fifteen years ago at the Public Library in
Colorado Springs, Colorado. I am sharing it
here because it is found in a very obscure
book, entitled CARPENTER AND ALLIED
FAMILIES: GENEALOGICAL AND BIOGRAPHICAL.
The book was "Prepared and Printed for Miss
Annie I. Carpenter by The American Historical
Society, Inc., New York, 1936."
The following is quoted from pages 125, 127, 129,
131. (Even page numbers were not used.)
Miss Carpenter obviously commissioned this
most prestigious group to conduct a genealogy of
her family.
********************************************************
""ELDER" JOHN STRONG (called "Elder" to describe
his church office) came to New England about 1630,
perhaps from the vicinity of "Southcard, in the parish
of Chard," Somersetshire, England, where his first
wife's father, William Deane, died. The statement is
found that John was a son of Richard Strong, of
Taunton, England, but no definite proof is found.
While it is stated that previous to coming to Taunton"
[Massachusetts] "in 1637, he divided his time
between Dorchester and Hingham, Massachusetts,
his name is not found in the printed town records of
Dorchester.
"John Strong had granted to him in Hingham,
Massachusetts, September 18, 1635, five acres of
land on North Street, near Ship Street. He was a
freeman, 1636-37. He removed from there to Taunton,
Massachusetts, where he was one of "the forty-six
ancient purchasers of Taunton" in 1638; others were
John Deane and Walter Deane. John Strong was
the first constable of Taunton, which officer represented
the Plymouth government in that new settlement in 1638.
He was one of the seven freeman [sic] of Cohannet "sworn
in" that same year. He was again appointed constable
in 1639. He was deputy in 1641, 1642, and 1643,
and was one of the formost, most influential citizens.
His house-lot was on Deane Street, next west of John
Deane's lot. Mr. Strong appointed Walter Deane
attorney to dispose of his real estate in Taunton, after
he left. At some time before February, 1647, Elder
Strong removed to Windsor, Connecticut, where
several of his younger children were born. There he
was appointed, with four others, "to superintend and
bring forward the settlement of that place." In 1659
he removed to Northampton, Massachusetts, of which
he was one of the first and most active founders. He
lived in Northampton for forty years, and was a leading
man in town and church affairs. His buriness as a
tanner was prosperous. He owned, at different times,
some two hundred acres of land in and around
Northampton. He died in Northampton, Massachusetts,
April 14, 1699, leaving about one hundred sixty
descendants."
"John Strong married (first) probably in England,
Eleanor Deane" [should be Margery Deane], "who
died probably about 1635, and who, there is strong
evidence to believe, was a daughter of William Deane,
of Southcard, in the parish of Chard, Somersetshire,
England, and a sister of John and Walter Deane, of
Taunton, Massachusetts. "Elder" John Strong married
(second), about 1636, Abigail Ford."
17 children were named on pages 127, 129. Josiah
Strong, born about 1639 and who died young, was
not named in this account. Additional data on the
Jedediah Strong line begins on page131; all of this
was not photocopied.
SOURCES cited on pages 129, 131:
Samuel Hopkins Emery: HISTORY OF TAUNTON,
MASSACHUSETTS, pages 29, 78.
FOURTH REPORT OF THE RECORD COMMISSIONER
OF THE CITY OF BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS,
INDEX.
HISTORY OF THE TOWN OF HINGHAM, Volume III,
Page 225.
Benjamin W. Dwight: THE HISTORY OF THE
DESCENDANTS OF ELDER JOHN STRONG, OF
NORTHAMPTON, MASSACHUSETTS, pages 16, 228,
1076, 1120, 1291, 1305, 1465, 1473, 1475, 1568.
Henry R. Stiles: HISTORY OF ANCIENT WINDSOR,
CONNECTICUT, Vol. II, page 743.
NEW ENGLAND HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL
REGISTER, Vol. III, pages 214, 383. Vol. LI, pages
432-435. Vol. LVII, page 209.
RECORDS OF THE FIRST CHURCH OF DORCHESTER
IN NEW ENGLAND, 1636-1734, published 1891,
page 149.
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From: sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong Jr
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:34:20 EST
Ongoing discussion of JOhn's DOB. I am a genealogist of sorts and often
tend to cause people to be unhappy. I don't mean to do that so put on
your best attitude, smile and read on.
I don't speculate or deal in wild guesses. That is why so many so
called genealogical writings say different things about the same people.
I paid $200 to do some reasearch in England. Guess what I got back--some
verbatim material lifted from the pages of DWIGHT. Everything you read
is not always correct. So I stick with the BEST information I can find
until someone DOCUMENTS something better.
John Strong Jr was born about 1632 but not later than July 22, 1634, in
the Chard area of County Somerset in England.--so says the SFAA.
(Documented). That is good enough for me until someone can document
something else. Now and then I must admit I do go along with "the
preponderence of evidence" but it has to be very convincing.
Sandy in Lubbock, a STRONG descendant. (Hannah).
P. S. I am USMC not Air Force!
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From: sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: LYMAN, Strong etc
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:14:21 EST
Re Sandi Rowe's note and Bob's reply. Strongs, Lyman's, Clarkes and Hunts
were all intermarried and descended from in MA and CT early 1700s. There
are at least five Lyman Strongs, one is a descendant of JERIJAH. SFAA has
them all indexed.
Sandy Hunt in Lubbock TX (Hannah)
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: John Strong [1665-1749] of Windsor, CT
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:23:28 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-14 17:10:02 EST, rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T.
Strong) writes:
<< In Davidson and Sumner Counties, Tennessee, about
1830s there was a young law student named Lyman
Strong. I last found him on the 1840 census of Shelby
County, TN (probably in Memphis). Around 1830 he
was residing in the same vicinity with my ancestors,
Sherwood Strong and Isham Strong, but why would
my ancestors name a son "Lyman"? I have long
suspected Lyman Strong was descended from the
Strongs and Lymans of New England, but as yet no
proof has been found. >>
Hi --
Re: Johns Strong -- Yes, I'm still quoting from Dwight.
These Johns are not in my line. I guess I've said that
before. But that's OK. I'm throwing what information I
have at my fingertips out for perusal, discussion, etc.
I agree that the one family with three John/Jonathans in
it is probably the result of at least one error. I'm feeling
kind of married to the Mary & John/1630, arrived with
wife, small child and infant theory though. It will take me
alot to accept the Hopewell theory.
Genealogy is a lot like statistics. One error makes every-
thing that follows wrong - or at least suspect.
The reason I'm so interested in the Pomeroy/Winchell/
Trumbull/Strong thing is that my MOTHER comes down
from Winchell (and Ruggles, etc.), and my FATHER
comes down from John Strong (1605 or thereabouts).
HIS grandfather was Charles RUGGLES Strong, so I have
long held that they were probably distant cousins. I have
found only a pprobable social relationship between Charles'
parents and a Ruggles, although a cousin of his married a
Ruggles - AFTER he was born. In the piece on Selah
Strong in the History of of the Town of Brookhaven, Charles
is not listed with his brothers - older and younger. This
gives me cause for concern only until I remember that the
author of much of that work messed up big time on other
relationships. Anyway,the bottom line is that I keep finding
names that belong in my mother's tree in my father's. They
may have been cousins several times -- and NEVER knew it.
My mother's grandmother was a Winchell. That line is where
Ruggles enters that family.
I feel like I'm getting very incherent, so I'll switch sub-
jects. Briefly, Bob, ISHAM ALWAYS makes me think
of Carters. My Carter book shows one Lyman - Ann -
who married R. Kidder Randolph of Rhode Island. I
know Isham Randolph's family wound up in IL - I see
no reason not to believe that Carters and relations and
friends woudn't also be in Shelby County. Many
Harrisons certainly did. (Harrisons - many of them any-
how - are heavily associated with Carters, and like I said,
one Strong also married into that family.) R. Kidder
Randolph is a Harrison, being the great-grandson of Anne
Carter (b. 1702) and Benjamin Harrison of Berkeley. If
you've got names like ISHAM running around your tree,
maybe you'd like to talk to some of my Harrison friends.
On to the next epistle.
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Lyman J. Strong of Sumner, Davidson, & Shelby Co., TN
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 02:32:48 EST
On Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:14:21 EST sbh3@juno.com
(Sanford B. Hunt) wrOTE:
>Re Sandi Rowe's note and Bob's reply. Strongs, Lyman's, Clarkes and
>Hunts were all intermarried and descended from in MA and CT early 1700s.
>There are at least five Lyman Strongs, one is a descendant of JERIJAH.
SFAA
>has them all indexed.
>Sandy Hunt in Lubbock TX (Hannah)
*******************************************************************************
Is there any documentation in SFAA records of a Lyman Strong who
migrated to or was residing in Middle (then called "Western") Tennessee
in the late 1820s?
At the OCT 1827 Court of Davidson Co., TN, Lyman Strong was
certified to be of age 21 or over and he was preparing to become
licensed to practice law. [Lyman J. Strong was thus born 1806 or
earlier.]
On 24 NOV 1827 Lyman J. Strong was granted a 600 acre
tract of land in Davidson County, TN.
Lyman J. Strong married Martha H. Green in Sumner County, TN, on
8 SEP 1828. Z. Green was the bondsman.
On 4 DEC 1829, Zachariah Green deeded 184 acres in Sumner
County to Lyman J. Strong. Lyman J. Strong sold 122 acres to Lewis
Green on 29 DEC 1829.
>From the above records it appears that Zachariah Green was
probably the father-in-law of Lyman J. Strong.
Lyman J. Strong was involved in several deeds of purchase
and deeds of sale of land on Sycamore Crek in Davidson County,
and also a town lot in Nashville, in 1827 and 1828. These appear
to have been land speculations. His last deed of record in
Davidson County was the sale of the lot on Broad Street on
7 JAN 1829.
1830 census, Shelby County, Tennessee, Microfilm Page 13:
L. J. Strong, age 20-29
One female, age 15-19
One male, age less than 5 years
Three slaves (2 male, 1 female)
Lyman J. Strong was not enumerated on the 1840 or later
census of Tennessee.
Could Lyman have been the son of an unidentified Thomas
Strong who appeared briefly in the records of Davidson
County, Tennessee, and who appeared to be wealthy by
the standards of the time? Or was he the son of my
ancestor, Sherwood Strong, who migrated to Sumner
County, Tennessee, from Goochland County, Virginia,
about 1806? Or was he unrelated to either of these two?
I'll have to do some searching for references to the above
Thomas Strong. I had to differentiate this person from
Thomas Strong, son of Sherwood Strong. Thomas, son
of Sherwood, served in the War of 1812 from Sumner
County, TN. Sherwood moved across the Cumberland
River into Davidson County but Thomas remained in
Sumner County for a number of years before he, too,
moved to Davidson County. For example, on the 1820
census, Sherwood was in Davidson County but his son,
Thomas, was still in Sumner County. In 1830, Thomas,
brother of Sherwood,was in Gibson Co., TN. Thomas,
son of Sherwood, was in Davidson County, page 259
(100001-220001). The unidentified Thomas Strong was
in Davidson County on Page 256 (3200001-000001),
near my ancestor, Isham (son of Sherwood); this
Thomas Strong was not enumerated on the 1840 or later
census records. .
Any help in identify the parents of Lyman J. Strong
of Tennessee will be appreciated.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: John Strong [1665-1749] of Windsor, CT
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 15:19:39 EST
On Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:23:28 -0500
Sandi Strong Rowe < Varow48@aol.com > wrote:
>Re: Johns Strong -- Yes, I'm still quoting from Dwight.
>These Johns are not in my line. I guess I've said that
>before. But that's OK. I'm throwing what information I
>have at my fingertips out for perusal, discussion, etc.
>I agree that the one family with three John/Jonathans in
>it is probably the result of at least one error. I'm feeling
>kind of married to the Mary & John/1630, arrived with
>wife, small child and infant theory though. It will take me
>alot to accept the Hopewell theory.
>The reason I'm so interested in the Pomeroy/Winchell/
>Trumbull/Strong thing is that my MOTHER comes down
>from Winchell (and Ruggles, etc.), and my FATHER
>comes down from John Strong (1605 or thereabouts).
>HIS grandfather was Charles RUGGLES Strong, so I have
>long held that they were probably distant cousins. I have
>found only a probable social relationship between Charles'
>parents and a Ruggles, although a cousin of his married a
>Ruggles - AFTER he was born. In the piece on Selah
>Strong in the History of of the Town of Brookhaven, Charles
>is not listed with his brothers - older and younger. This
>gives me cause for concern only until I remember that the
>author of much of that work messed up big time on other
>relationships. Anyway,the bottom line is that I keep finding
>names that belong in my mother's tree in my father's. They
>may have been cousins several times -- and NEVER knew it.
>My mother's grandmother was a Winchell. That line is where
>Ruggles enters that family.
>I feel like I'm getting very incherent, so I'll switch sub-
>jects. Briefly, Bob, ISHAM ALWAYS makes me think
>of Carters. My Carter book shows one Lyman - Ann -
>who married R. Kidder Randolph of Rhode Island. I
>know Isham Randolph's family wound up in IL - I see
>no reason not to believe that Carters and relations and
>friends woudn't also be in Shelby County. Many
>Harrisons certainly did. (Harrisons - many of them any-
>how - are heavily associated with Carters, and like I said,
>one Strong also married into that family.) R. Kidder
>Randolph is a Harrison, being the great-grandson of Anne
>Carter (b. 1702) and Benjamin Harrison of Berkeley. If
>you've got names like ISHAM running around your tree,
>maybe you'd like to talk to some of my Harrison friends.
>On to the next epistle.
>Sandi
****************************************************************
Sandi:
I will leave the discussion of the New England Strongs to
you, Cleta Terrell, Lin Van Buren, and Sandy Hunt, and any
new subscribers researching these families.
You will find about 18 or 19 Pomeroys included in the
Ford-Strong Database that I mailed to you in a GEDCOM.
Rather than trying to rekey that data in a message, you
can study it with your genealogy software program. Two
Medad Pomeroys are included in the bunch. Most of the
Pomeroys listed were residents at Windson, CT. Some
were at Northampton, MA.
I am quite certain that my ancestory, Isham Strong, born
Goochland County, Virginia, between 1798-1804, was named
in honor of Isham Randolph of Virginia. Isham Strong's
parents and grandmother were neighbors of Thomas Eston
Randolph, who inherited the Dungeness Plantation at Rock
Castle, on the James River, in Goochland County. Thomas
Eston Randolph was a grandson of Isham Randolph "of
Dungeness", 1685-1742. Isham Randolph was named for
his mother's family; she was Mrs. Mary (Isham) Randolph.
Isham Randolph was the father of Jane Randolph, who
married Peter Jefferson, and they were the parents to
Thomas Jefferson, President. Peter Jefferson was
from Goochland County and one of Thomas Jefferson's
plantations was in Goochland County, per tax records.
My family continued to pay tribute to this family. My
ancestor, Isham, named his first son Thomas Jefferson
Strong.
Col. John Chiswell is a key figure in the history of my
Strong family, as he was a merchant and operated a
general store in western Hanover County around 1750.
His store account provides the only documentation of
my ancestor, John Strong, Jr., the accounts receivable
records showing that John Strong died by 1751. It
turns out that this Col. John Chiswell was the husband
of Elizabeth Randolph, granddaughter of William Randolph
of Turkey Island and his wife, Mary Isham Randolph.
I am quite impressed with the surnames that were parallel
in the Southern and Northern U. S. Strong is one. Carter
is another. And there were many, many more. Some of
these families probably had common roots in "the old
County". I wonder if the Randolphs of Virginia and the
Randolphs of Rhode Island were related, for example.
No one needs to reply--I am just "thinking out loud".
Gotta go!
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Benjamin Ruggles Woodbridge STRONG
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:07:16 EST
The following might be of interest to Sandi
Strong Rowe.
Among my notes on 17th Century STRONG
immigrants to the American Colonies I have a
couple pages I photocopied from THE
ABRIDGED COMPEDNDIUM OF AMERICAN
GENEALOGY, pages 846-847, 872. I did not
record the complete bibliographical data.
*************************************************
On page 846 is an ancestry chart for Theordore
STRONG, b. New Brunswick, NJ, 15 JAN 1863.
He called his home "Stronghold." He was a
graduate of Rutgers U., a lawyer, state senator,
etc. Following is an abstract of his descent.
Dates and additional data are included in the
article. [I have added suffixes to the Josephs,
below.]
9. John Strong, the church Elder
8. Thomas Strong m. Rachel Holton
7. Joseph Strong, a Justice, m. Sarah Allen
6. Joseph Strong, Jr., Capt., m. Elizabeth Strong
5. Joseph Strong, III, m. Jane Gelston
4. Joseph Strong, IV, m. Sophia Wooldbridge
3. Theodore Strong, LL.D., (1790-1869) m. Lucy Dix
2. "Son of Benjamin Ruggles Woodbridge STRONG.
["Strong" in lower case, bold print.] (1827-1907).
A.B., Rutgers, 1847. Presiding Judge, Court of
Common Pleas, Middlesex County, New Jersey,
1874-[smeared]. m. 1852, Harriet Ann Hartwell
(1827-1909); Issue:"
1--Edward Wooldbridge (m. Annie Porter McClintock);
2--Alan Hartwell (m. Susan Delancy Van Rensselaer);
3--Theodore (above) [and below]
4--Elizabeth Briard
3. [Theordore STRONG, b. New Brunswick, NJ,
15 JAN 1863. He called his home "Stronghold."
He was a graduate of Rutgers U., a lawyer, state
senator, etc.]
"M. Mar.21, 1900, Cornelia Livingston Van Rensselaer
....."
1. Theodore, Jr.
2. Cornelia Livingston V. R.
3. Katharine V. R.
4. Stephen V. R.
5. Benjamin Ruggles Woodbridge, b. May 17, 1910
6. John V. R.
7. Robert Livingston
8. Philip Livingston
************************************************************
[The V. R.'s above are abbreviations I have used for
"Van Rensselaer".]
I personally had a hard time making sense out of the
chart numbering, but perhaps there is an explanation
of the protocol in the Introduction to the volume.
Sandi: You might want to check the index of this
book for "Ruggles". Although this is not your line
of Strongs, it would appear they are not distantly
related because of the use of the name "Ruggles"
in both families.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Some 17th Century Immigrants
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:17:00 EST
"The Hooten Lists" is an often cited and higly
esteemed source of information about early
immigrants to the British Colonies in America.
Here is the full title page.
*****************************************************
THE ORIGINAL LISTS of Persons of Quality:
Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels;
Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices;
Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and Others
Who Went From Great Britain to the AMERICAN
PLANTATIONS, 1600-1700, With Their Ages, The
Localities Where They Formerly Lived in the
Mother Country, the Names of the Ships in
Which They Embarked, and Other Interesting
Particulars.
>From MSS. Preserved in the State Paper
Department of Her Majesty's Public Record
Office, England.
Edited by JOHN CAMDEN HOTTEN.
Baltimore [Maryland]: Genealogical Publishing
Co., Inc., 1978
*****************************************************
23 MAY 1635. "Wm. Straughan" was on a list
of persons to be transported on the ship,
SPEEDWELL, from London. [Pages 82-83]
"Jo: Chappell Mr." [The "Mr." appears to
be an abbreviation for Master of the Ship.]
10 (?) JUN 1635: "Ben: Strange, 18 years" of
age, appeared on a list of persons to be
transported to "Bormoodes or Somer-Islands"
on the ship, TRUELOVE, Robert Dennis, Mr.
[Pages 85-87]. The imtermediate destination
was apparently Barbados, from which many
continued on to the Colonies on the continent.
6 (?) JUL 1635: "Wm. Strange, 25 years" of
age appeared on a list of persons to be
transported from London to the Virginia
Colony on the ship PAULE, Leonard Betts, Mr.
**************************************************
[Many early settlers in Virginia were killed by
Indians--and probably vice versa. The following
census was taken after a massacre by Indians.]
"A LIST OF NAMES; OF THE LIVING IN
VIRGINIA, February the 16, 1623"
[The year would now be 1624 because of
a change in the calendar. New Years was
then on 1 April.]
"At Flourdieu Hundred": [Pages 172-173]
"William Straunge"
Footnote on Page 173: "I believe this is correct;
but the third letter is blotted in the original; and
there is, besides, a dot near the end of the word,
which makes it possible to read it as STRAMIGE."
[Dr.] John Woodson and Sarah Woodson also
appeared on this same list. This Woodson family
is subsequently found residing in Henrico Co.,
VA.
-------------------------------------------------------------
"James Citty
The MUSTER of the Inhabitants of James Cittie
[James City County] taken the 24th of January
1624" [The year would now be 1625 because of a
change in the calendar.]
"The MUSTER of Sir George Yearley, Knignt, etc."
[Sir George Yeardley]
"William Strange 18 in the GEORGE 1619"
[This is probably the same person as in the
previous entry, above: "William Straunge".]
----------------------------------------------------------------
Charles Strong appeared on a list of prisoners
from the Dorchester Jail who were taken to
Barbados and sold [indentured servants?] prior
to a certificate dated 1 FEB 1685 [now 1686].
They were transported out of London on the
ship BETTY, James May, Commander.
[Pages 325-327]
A subsequent "CERTIFICATE of the Disposall
of Captain Kendalls Rebells" [Pages 328-331]
indicates that Charles Strong was sold to
Colonel John Sampson.
[I know no further information about this
Charles Strong.]
--------------------------------------------------------------
A REGISTER for Parish of Christ Church, dated
22 DEC 1679, listed "Henry Strawne" with five
acres, no while slaves, and two Negro slaves.
[Page 485].
[I failed to note the location of this parish.]
--------------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
In a subsequent posting I will give some data about
Strongs who were residing in Virginia in the 17th
Century. William Strong(e) of James City County
was probably the same person as "William Straunge"
and "William Strange", above.
Ships that sailed out of Great Britain followed the
trade winds, which took them south to the coast of
Africa, across the Atlantic near the Equator, then
back north to the Carribean and followed the coast
of what is now the United States, stopping at ports
along the coast: Savannah, Charleston, Jamestown,
Baltimore, etc. So some of the same ships that
brought settlers to Virginia also brought settlers to
New England. It is interesting to note the names of
ships in "The Hooten Lists". These ships were
mentioned in the 1624 census in the Virginia Colony.
[I am not certain I photocopied the entire census.]
Margrett and John
William and Thomas
Swan
George
London Marchannt
Starr
Johnthan
Returne
Truelove
Francis Bonaventure
Abigaile
Bona Nova
Diana
Prosperous
Mary Margrett
Hercules
Warwick
Treasuror
Tryall/Triall
Charitie
Suply [Supply?]
Deliverance
Faulcon
Temperance
Dutie
Elsabeth
Blessinge
Seafloure/Seaflower
Hopewell
Seaventure
Remember, these ships arrived in Virginia
BEFORE 1625.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: More 17th Century STRONG(E) Immigrants
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:41:06 EST
Coldman, Peter Wilson
THE COMPLETE BOOK OF IMMIGRANTS, 1661-1699
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, (c) 1990.
Page 203, 23 OCT 1672:
"The following apprenticed in Bristol:
John Stronge to Thomas Fisher, 4 years, Virginia. (BR)."
****************************************************************
I found at least 10 other persons listed who were
apprenticed to Thomas Fisher for periods of 4 to 10 years.
Research on Thomas Fisher might be helpful.
Was the above John Stronge the same John Strong who
was claimed as a headright by Robert Hughes, who was
awarded a grant in 1682 in New Kent County, VA? It is
clear he was not the same person as the John Stronge who
was named in the 1651 will of Edward Gradwell in Lynhaven
Parish, Norfolk Co., VA.
****************************************************************
The "BR" above is apparently a reference to the Bristol
Registers. The author edited another book entitled:
BRISTOL REGISTERS OF SERVANTS SENT TO FOREIGN
PLANTATIONS, 1654-1686.
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., (c) 1988.
****************************************************************
Greer, George C.
1623-1666, EARLY VIRGINIA IMMIGRANTS
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., (c) 1960.
The data in this book is derived from Virginia headright
grants, which listed the grantee, description of the grant,
and the names of persons transported to the Virginia
Colony by the grantee. A grant of 50 acres was allowed
for each person transported. The list in this book appears
far from complete and this is at least a tertiary source
document, the original being the handwritten record, and
the secondary source being a set of four books that
have been published abstracting the grants. I will post
data from this secondary source, CAVALIERS AND
PIONEERS, later. For now, here are the Strongs who
were named in Greer's book. The dates cited are
the dates the grants were issued, which was sometimes
years after the person was transported. The person
transported did not necessarily reside in the county
were the grant was awarded.
1635 Edward Strong, transported by Capt. Adam
Thoroughgood. grant in New Norfolk County, VA.
Records of Edward Strong of Norfolk County
are documented. See STRONG FAMILY
HISTORIES, VOLUME V, pages 47-78.
1642 James Strong, transported by George Harding,
grant in [probably James City, later Surry]
County, VA.
1650 Alexander Stronge, transported by John "Lacker",
[Tacker?] grant in [Northumberland?] Co., VA.
1650 Mary Strong, transported by Thomas "Gerrord",
[Gerrard?] grant in Northumberland Co., VA
1653 James Strong, transported by John Bell,
grant in Lancaster Co., VA
1653 Abraham Strong, transported by Peter Knight,
grant in Northumberland Co., VA
1655 Leonard Strong, transported by William Wright,
"Gentleman", grant in Nansemond Co., VA.
Records of Leonard Strong are documented.
He migrated from Virginia to Maryland. See
James Robert Rolff's book, STRONGS OF
VIRGINIA AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES,
pages 23-25.
*********************************************************
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong Family Researchers
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:10:13 EST
Following is a list of persons who have submitted
queries regarding STRONG/STRONGE to the
Social-Genealogy-Surnames newsgroup, also
referred to as Roots-L. You may see someone
here with whom you wish to communicate.
Invite them to join our discussion group.
Each Subject line carries an alphabetical code.
Find the code in the second list to obtain the
name, address, and E-Mail address of the
submittor.
*******************************************************************
Strong 1490 1640 Berminister,ENG>Taunton,ENG>
NTH,ENG>MA,USA jdj
Strong c1490 ---- SOM,ENG>MA>CT,USA ellenbe
Strong 1500 1690 Dochester,DOR,ENG bunny
Strong 1601 1820 ENG>VA>NC,USA chm
Strong 1605 now Taunton,ENG>MA>CT>
AlleganyCo,NY>OK>CA,USA tll
Strong 1605 now Taunton,ENG>MA>CT>PA>
AthensCo,OH>IN>IA>OK,USA pattf
Strong 1605 1828 ENG>CT>VT,USA cdame
Strong 1605 1835 ENG>CT,USA gordonr
Strong 1660 1850 IRL>ChesterCo,SC>
DicksonCo,TN,USA mcculler
Strong 1669 ---- NH,USA nelswarn
Strong 1675 1820 NewKentCo,VA>
RockinghamCo,NC,USA francie
Strong 1701 ---- VA>OglethorpeCo,GA>
UpshurCo,TX,USA lpyle
Strong 1727 1984 ENG>PA>OH,USA emmett
Strong 1749 1875 IRL>ChesterCo,SC,USA tomweir
+Strong 1750 ---- PA>OH>MI,USA mckellar
Strong 1758 c1900 MA>OH,USA heathers
Strong 1772 1772 Salisbury,CT,USA jbreeze
Strong 1778 now NJ,USA ath
Strong 1785 1916 IRL>OH>SchuylerCo,IL,USA dlddvm
Strong 1790 1900 GA>FayetteCo,AL,USA geneo
Strong <1790 1889 SSX,ENG lise
Strong 1798 now RockinghamCo,NC>
LawrenceCo,MS>
ConwayCo,AR,USA ldooley
Strong 1800 1912 VA>JacksonCo,TN,USA ccason
Strong 1804 now MOG,IRL>SimcoeCo,ON,CAN>
MT,USA strongb
Strong 1830 ---- SC>MonroeCo,IN,USA rogerd
Strong 1837 1891 Medina,OH>Aurora,IA,USA dearborn
Strong 1837 1920 ClayCo,TN>BeckhamCo,OK,USA dhendrix
Strong c1840 ---- OH,USA luise
Strong 1850 now BreathittCo,KY>Cincinnati,OH,USA lfoster
Strong 1897 now NewtonCo,GA>StoneMtn,GA>Detroit>
LapeerCo,MI,USA pratt
Strong 1900 1949 CAN tstrong
Strong 1909 1909 GrantCo,WI,USA jhinman
Strong 1920 now ND,USA glockl
Strong - see Strang (nanwest)
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ath Allan T. Hackney, athackney@aol.com
164 Richmond Hill Rd., New Canaan, CT 06840 USA
bunny Virginia Harvey, bearbait@sierra.net
550 Cimarron Way #18, Elko, Nevada 89801 USA
ccason Carl Cason, ccason@helix.eskimo.com,
70771.1421@compuserve.com
5510 227th St. S.E., Bothell, WA 98021
cdame Charles Dame, 103616.2530@compuserve.com
62 Lebanon Rd., Bozrah, CT 06334
chm Cristina Mahon, c_mahon@fc.hp.com
2100 West Drake #325, Fort Collins, CO 80526
dearborn Terry Dearborn, dearborn@ccnet.com
3812-A Happy Vly. Rd., Lafayette, CA, 94549
dhendrix Donald L. Hendrix, dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov,
1238 West Esplanade, Mesa, AZ 85201
dlddvm Diane L. Delbridge, dlddvm@ix.netcom.com
12501 S. Mustang Rd, Mustang, OK 73064 USA
ellenbe Ellen Edgerton, ellenbe@columbia.digiweb.com
Web Page, 108 Terrace Drive, Syracuse, NY 13219
emmett Emmett W. Bratt, ebratt@attmail.com
151 Lansdowne Drive, Moon Twp, PA 15108-3027
francie Francie Lane, FLane@otn.net
geneo Gene Ostrom, gfostrom@msn.com
P. O. Box 407 Crownsville, MD 21032
glockl Larry Glock, tandemv@staffnet.com
1226 Washington Drive, Stafford, Va 22554
gordonr Gordon Richmond, Progentr@AOL.COM,
364 Tunnel Road Vernon, CT 06066
heathers Heather Stevens, dstevens@future.dreamscape.com
jbreeze J. Breeze, jbleaux@aol.com
P.O. Box 201, Fairfax, CA 94978
Web Page
jdj Mr. Jody Dee Jones, jdj@fc.hp.com
2261 Hiawatha Ct., Fort Collins CO 80525-1840
jhinman Jerry Hinman, jhinman@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us
701 W. Wildrose, Ridgecrest CA 93555
ldooley Leanne Dooley, ldooley@ims-1.com
(that's one dot com)
13708 Co Rd 612 Dexter, MO 63841
lfoster Lawrence Foster, JLK444@fuse.net
4806 Oak St. Norwood, OH 45212
lise Lise Elliott, reg040@coventry.ac.uk
159 Rugby Road,Milverton,Leamington Spa,
WAR,CV32 6DP,ENG
lpyle Lydia Pyle, lpyle@vivid.net
5842 Taylor Creek Dr, Canton, GA 30115-8316
luise Luise Green, lgreen@paloalto.uhsa.uh.edu
507 Misty Lane, Friendswood, TX 77546
mcculler Jim McCuller, mcculler@mindspring.com
441 St. Simons Cove Lawrenceville, Ga 30244
mckellar Karen McKellar, KADICA@AOL.COM
nelswarn Nelson Warner, nmwarner@naples.net
597 Country Walk CT. , Naples, FL 34104
pattf Patt Fulton, PattFulton@aol.com,
1307 Kinney Ave., #150, Austin, TX 78704
pratt David Pratt, dwp4@psu.edu,
112 W Hamilton Ave. #202, State College, PA 16801
rogerd Roger Dellinger, argothor@visi.com
13775 Chestnut Dr. #219 Eden Prairie, MN 55344
strongb Bill Strong, wstrong@netinc.ca
718 Port Maitland Rd, R.R.7, Dunnville, ON CAN N1A-2W6
tll Theresa Lang, theresa@lang.org
tomweir Tom Weir, weir@u.washington.edu
4639 133rd Ave SE, Bellevue, WA 98006-2139wi
tstrong Todd Strong, tstrong@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Web Page
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To obtain a list like the above for any surname, follow these
directions:
TO: rsl@gen.roc.wayne.edu
SUBJECT: Surnames + Submittors
BODY OF MESSAGE, beginning on Line 1, far left:
Surname1
Surname2
Surname3
etc.
My advice is to ask for only one surname per message.
If you want several surnames, send a separate message
for each.
The above list of Strong researhers was received within
a couple hours after my request was posted. It is a
really neat and underutilized service.
Bob Strong
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: Benjamin Ruggles Woodbridge STRONG
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:42:11 -0500
In a message dated 96-12-16 04:15:19 EST, rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T.
Strong) writes:
<< Sandi: You might want to check the index of this
book for "Ruggles". Although this is not your line
of Strongs, it would appear they are not distantly
related because of the use of the name "Ruggles"
in both families. >>
FASCINATING! Yes, it is certainly very interesting.
Fact is, I don't know where to begin. I mentioned the
Winchell Ruggles connection -- Abigail Ruggles
winchell's mother's maiden name was WOODBRIDGE.
Mercy, to be exact. Her dad's name was Benjamin
RUGGLES. This hits like a bolt of lightning.
Second. Like I mentioned Charles Ruggles Strong's
cousin (1C1R) was George Templeton Strong -- the
Diarist -- and HIS wife's name was Caroline RUGGLES,
d/o Samuel Bulkley Ruggles of NYC and Poughkeepsie,
s/o Philo RUGGLES of Milford, CT. Or New Milford?
Anyhow -- that was the only Ruggles connection I had
seen prior to reading your post.
Did I mention that my ex's family goes back to MUNN
and HARRISON who settled in - let's see -- Woodbridge,
NJ?
Oh the tangled webs we weave
When first we something to conceive.
Thanks Bob.
Sandi
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From: dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Descendants of John Strong, TN
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:03:03 -0500 (EST)
My grandmother's maiden name was STRONG. She came from a family located
on the TN/KY border (what was formerly Jackson Co., TN (now Clay Co.) and
adjacent KY (Monroe Co., KY). I would very much like to tie this family
into other on the STRONG list. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
____________________________________________________________________________
Descendants of Joseph Strong of Clay (Jackson) County, Tennessee
I. Joseph Strong b. 1800 VA d. ~1875 Clay Co., TN m. Mourning Denton
b. 1804 TN d.1870-1880 dau. Isaac Denton and Rebecca Etheridge
A. Pharaby (Ferby?) Strong b. 1824 d. 1918 m. Isaac Miller b. 1815
1. Isabell Miller b. 1854 d. 1906 m. Lafayette (Fay) McLerran b.
1850 d. 1923
2. William T. Miller b. 1856 m. Lucellia Angeline Smith b. 1863
3. Permelia Miller b. 1859 d. 1913 m. Winfield McLerran b. 1853 d. 1913
4. Hayden Miller b. 1864 m. Eva B. Grinestaff
B Jasin Strong b. ~1825
C. Anna Strong b. 1827 d. 1857 TN
D. Pheby Strong b. 1828
E. Mary (Polly) Strong b. 15 Jun 1829 Jackson Co., TN d. 15 Jun 1912
Clay Co., TN m. Elisha Rich b. 2 Nov 1828 d. 4 Jun 1907
1. William Rich b. 1847 d. 1924 m. (1)Sarah J. Foster b. 1848 d. 1871 (2)
Amanda Isabelle Hestand b. 1845 d. 1895 (3) Charlotte Bell Coffelt
b. 1862
2. James Rich b. 1848 d. 1924 m. Mary A. (Polly) McAlpin b. 1851 d. 1907
3. John R. Rich b. 1850 d. 1932 m. (1) M. A. (Missona) Welch b. 1852
d. 1905 (2) Lenora Tara Watson b. 1864 d. 1905 (3) Thoda Kellow
b. 1882 d. 1961
4. America Rich b. 1854 m. Harvey McCue(?) b. 1854
5. Missouri Rich b. 1855 d. 1948 m. unknown
6. Virginia Rich b. 1860 d. 1946 m. (1) James A. McAlpin b. 1861
(2) Jesse Wood b. 1843 d. 1914
7. Jonathan W. (Roark) Rich b. 1865 d. 1932 m. (1) Polly Holloway
(2) Alice B.Crowder b. 1863 d. 1910 (3) Nevada Kirby b. 1890
8. Tennessee Rich b. 1869 d. 1941 m. Henry W. Rich b. 1865 d. 1949
9. Louisiana Rich b. 1872 m. Lemuel Rhoton b. 1868
F. Samuel Strong b. 1830 TN d. ~1869 m. ~1850 Margaret (Peggy) Rich
b. 1836 d.~1895
1. J. Cyrus Strong b. 1849 d. 1908 m. (1) Harriett Jane McAlpin
b. 1853 (2) Mary A. Head b. 1848 d. 1935
2. Mary Strong b. 1852 d. 1874
3. William Cam Strong b. 1853 m. (1) Rebecca Emily McAlpin b. 1847
d. 1935 (2) M. C. Delk
4. Jennie A. Strong b. 1854 m. (1) W. W. Kidwell (2) Simon Sheters
b. 1855
5. Mourning Elizbeth Strong b. 1856 d. 1932 m. James Calvin Smith
b. 1856 d.1928
6. Albert Barton Strong b. 1860 d. 1921 m. Zemra Alta M. McAlpin
b. 1860 d.1912
7. James Halix Strong b. 1861 d. 1911 m. Nancy E. b. 1856
8. John Frank Strong b. 1862 m. Louella Massey b. 1875
9. Rachel Strong b. 1867 m. Richard B. Pollard b. 1860
10. Calley A. Strong b. 1868 d. 1939 m. Sarah Spear b. 1868 d. 1950
11. Elizabeth Strong b. 1869
G. Sarah Strong b. 1833 TN d. 1903 TN m. 1850 Jordan Stith b. 1833
H. Elizabeth Strong b. 1834 d. 1920 m. William Casteel b. 1831 d. 1904
1. Landon Casteel b. 1855 d. 1939 m. (1) Burneet Spear b. 1840 d.
1909 (2) Lucrecia Brown b. 1893 d. 1916 (3) Sinca b. 1865
2. Lucette Casteel b. 1858 d. 1938 m. James Austin Spear b. 1860 d. 1894
3. Nancy A. Casteel b. 1860 m. Milton M. Burnett b. 1850
4. John M. Casteel b. 1866 m. Mary Spear b. 1872
5. Arthula M. Casteel b. 1868 m. (1) Isaac Capshaw (2) J. Albert
Odle b. 1875
6. William F. Casteel b. 1871 m. (1) Nancy M. Spear b. 1874 (2)
Lou Settie Ford b. 1878 d. 1928
7. Mary Eta Casteel b. 1873 d. 1953 m. (1) William Moore 1856 (2)
Jahu Rush b. 1858 d. 1929
8. Joseph T. Casteel b. 1876 d. 1957 m. Berehan Ann Ford
I. John Strong b. Dec. 1837 Jackson Co., TN d. Apr 1906 Moss, Clay Co.,
TN m.Martha Rich b. Oct 1841 Monroe Co., KY d. 1910-1920 dau. James
Rich b. 1823 d. 15 May 1860 and Nancy Spear b. 1820 d. 1879. James
Rich lived in Monroe Co., KY in 1850.
1. James Frank Strong b. 1859
2. Sarah R. Strong b. 1862 d. 1938 m. Andrew J. Odle b. 1861 d. 1941.
Andrew was a Cherokee indian. They lived in Moss, Clay Co., TN, 9
children
3. John H. Strong b. 1866
4. Joseph H. Strong b. 1868
5. Alfred W. Strong b. 26 Dec 1871, TN, d. 7 Nov 1933, WA, m.
1893 Retha (Nellie) Head, TN b. 1876 dau. Lafayette (Fay) Head b. 1853
and Susan M. ? b. 1853. Lafeyette was the son of Caleb (Doc) Head b.
1827 d. 1906 and Siotha Butler b. 1818
a. Martha Strong b. 25 Aug 1895 Clay Co., TN d. 1963 Everett, WA m. 9
Jul 1911 Edgar Young Hendrix b. 8 Aug 1889 Henderson Co., TN d. 18
Dec 1951 Bow, WA
(1) Norma Hendrix b. 1 Mar 1916 Anacortes, WA d. 19 Oct 1990
Stanwood, WA m. 29 Nov 1935 Harold Anderson b. 18 Jan 1910
Bow, WA d. 23 Nov 1978 Mt. Vernon, WA
(a) Rodney Harold Anderson b. 12 Jun 1939
(2) Louis Edgar Hendrix b. 1919 Anacortes, WA m. (1) 25 Dec 1940
Cecelia Alta Olson b. 13 Mar 1919 d. 1993 (2) Mary Backstrom
(a) Donald Louis Hendrix b. 21 Aug 1942, m. 27 Dec 1965
Vancouver, WA Susan Jane Newlean b. 25 Dec 1942
(b) Michael Leon Hendrix b. 7 Mar 1944
(c) Steven Douglas Hendrix b. 31 Jul 1946
(3) Robert Lee Hendrix, b. 1922 Anacortes, WA
b. Beatress Strong b. 4 Mar 1897 Clay Co., TN m. Shelby James
Funderberg, Amarillo, TX
c. Lea Ella Strong b. 1903 Clay Co., TN m. Vernon Sparks
(1) Betty Sparks m. Larry Comer
d. Minnie Strong b. 1907 Clay Co., TN m. Jimmy Lewis, Seattle, WA
(1) Frank Lewis
(2) Jimmy Lewis
(3) Billy Lewis
(4) Don Lewis
6. Nancy B. Strong b. 1872
7. Mathias (Tice) Strong b. 1876 m. Ella Savage b. 1882
8. James M. Strong b. Jul 1880
9. Nancy C. Strong b. Jul 1882 b. 1881 d. 1916 m. John Jasper
Brown b. 1878 d. 1957, 3 children
10. Delia C. Strong b. Aug 1885 d. 1941 m. John Garrett b. 1865 d.
1941, 2 children. Her mother (Martha Rich Strong) lived with them
in 1910
J. William Strong b. 1844 d. 1917 m. (1) Mary (Polly) Kendall b. 1841
(2) Martha E. Browning b. 1849 (3) Kit Pennington b. ~ 1850
1. (1)Joshua Strong b. 1862
2. (1)Martha Strong b. 1864
3. (1)Stephen Strong b. 1866
4. (1)Dicy Belle Strong b. 1868
5. (1)Joseph B. Strong b. 1870
6. (1)Morning R. Strong b. 1874 m. John H. Eaake b. 1871
7. (1)Sarah G. Strong b. 1876 d. 1928 m. William Abraham Cross b. 1873
8. (1)Elizabeth Strong b. 1889
K. Celina Strong b. 1845
L. Hayden W. Strong b. 1847 Jackson Co, TN d. 1863 near Columbia, KY
M. Martha J. Strong b. 1849 Jackson Co., TN m. Frank Kendall b. 1842
1. Ambrose Kendall b. 1872
2. Martha Kendall b. 1875
3. Hershel Kendall b. 1877
4. Mary Kendall b. 1878 m. Palo A. Burnett b. 1876
5. William Kendall b. 1880
6. Bedford Kendall b. 1886
7. Savage Kendall b. 1891 d. 1974 m. Eula Bea Pumlee b. 1896 d. 1942
______________________________________________________________________
Clay county TN was created from Jackson county in 1870. The county courthouse
burned in 1872. Also, most of the above material came from Harold McLerran,
Champaign, IL and Carl Cason, Bothell, WA
Donald L. Hendrix
Mesa, Arizona
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Descendants of Joseph Strong, TN
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:42:26 EST
Seasons Greeting, Donald Hendrix!
Thanks for posting your Strong lineage and query
to the STRONG Mail List.
Carl Cason and I have discussed his Strongs of
Jackson County, TN, a number of years ago.
I have encouraged Carl to join our discussion
group. As I recall, I suggested to Carl that his
Strongs in Jackson County might be descended
from or related to the Strongs who settled in
adjacent Smith County, TN, before 1820. From
Smith County they spread into neighboring
counties: DeKalb, White, Cannon, Davidson, etc.
James Robert Rolff believed these Strongs
were descended from the Strongs of Rockingham
County, NC. "Jim" Rolff discusses these
Strongs who settled in Smith County, TN, in his
book STRONGS OF VIRGINIA AND OTHER
SOUTHERN STATES, in his Chapter 8, "James
Strong".
There was a Samuel Strong who appeared
on the 1820 census of Smith Co., TN; on the
1830 census of White Co., TN; on the
1840 census of DeKalb Co., TN; and the
1850 census of DeKalb Co., TN. The 1850
census indicated he was born in North
Carolina about 1775. The Samuel on the
1840 census was possibly a different person,
due to discrepancy in age and family structure.
Rollff theorized that Samuel Strong of DeKalb
County, TN, was the same person as Samuel
Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA, and
Rockingham Co., NC, who was a son of
James Strong. Keep in mind this is a theory;
it is not a proven fact.
In the most recent book published by the Strong
Family Association of America (SFAA), there is a
section entitled "Samuel Strong of Russell and
Scott County, VA, and Monroe County, KY".
This section was contributed by David C. Strong,
1030 Woodridge Ct., Carmel, IN 46032.
See pages 437-443. David Strong believed this
was the ancestry of Joseph Strong:
1. John Strong, Sr. [of New Kent County, VA]
2. William Strong, Sr. [of Hanover and Pittsylvania
Counties, VA]
3. Thomas Strong [Sr., of Rockingham Co., NC]
4. Samuel Strong (no details)
5. Joseph Strong, b. about 1798, "possibly in Scott Co., VA"
d. 1870
m. about 1820, Jackson Co., TN:
Mouring Denton
In Rolff's Chapter 8, "Thomas Strong", his children
are reported to be William, Samuel, and Thomas Strong.
There are discussions of William Strong and Thomas
Strong of Clay County, KY, but little on their brother,
Samuel. Notice that these Strongs were in Clay Co.,
kY, not Clay Co., TN!
Joseph Strong, born around 1800, is not identified in
Rolff's book on the Strongs.
At the moment I do not have time to check my records
further, but I will, and will get back in contact with
you later. I believe, though, if I were you, that I would
carefully read the Jackson/Clay County, TN, census
records, beginning 1820, not relying on the published
indices, which contain many omissions and incorrect
transcriptions. You might also want to correspond
with David C. Strong to determine, particularly, what
was his evidence that Joseph Strong was a son of
Samuel Strong.
Happy Holiday!
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Theresa Lang's STRONG ancesty
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:15:52 EST
Posted to the STRONG Mail List by permission of
the submittor. Bob Strong
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From: "Theresa Lang"
To: "Robert T. Strong"
Subject: FYI Lineage: Theresa Lang
Date: 15 Dec 1996 23:06:33 U
>Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
>posted their lineage. Please tell us something about your
>lineage or connection to Strong, Strang, Straughan, etc.!
> theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang, San Jose, CA)
Hello everyone, have been enjoying the postings and apologize
for not listing my lineage sooner!
I am descended from Thomas (John Elder's son) as follows.
ID and page numbers reference Vol. II of the Strong Family History.
1 John STRONG, Elder m2. Abigail FORD (1-1)
1.1 Thomas STRONG m2. Rachel HOLTON (2-6, pg 1)
1.1.1 Joseph STRONG m1. Sarah ALLEN (3-4081)
1.1.1.4 Phineas STRONG, Deacon m. Mary PARKER (4-5743)
1.1.1.4.9 Elisha N. STRONG, Sr. m. Anna PINNEO (5-7562)
1.1.1.4.9.6 Elisha N. STRONG, Jr.
m. Eunice HIGGINS (6-8567, pg 693)
1.1.1.4.9.6.5 Ira STRONG m. Abigail CASE* (7-1, pg 693)
1.1.1.4.9.6.5.8 Charles Lemuel STRONG
m2. Florence Adella MILLS (8-11, pg 694)
(Vol. II lists only Charles' first marriage to Phoebe Jane HAYS.
There is no mention of Charles Sr.'s second marriage and the
numerous descendants that followed.
¥ I have been in contact with SFAA's historian and it's all sorted
out in his databaseÉ thanks to his unending patience and
attention to detail.)
1.1.1.4.9.6.5.8b.6 Olive Lois STRONG
m. Clyde William HAYNES
1.1.1.4.9.6.5.8b.6.2 William Eugene HAYNES
m. LaReece Jane HUMMEL
1.1.1.4.9.6.5.8b.6.2.1 Theresa Lynn HAYNES
m. Charles Richard LANG, Jr.
And that's me! Whew!
* Ira STRONG and Abigail CASE *may* have been sixth cousins.
One of Abigail's great-grandmother's maiden name was
WOODFORD, Sarah.
One of Ira's 3Ggrandmother's maiden name was
WOODFORD, Sarah; d/o. Thomas WOODFORD m. Mary BLOTT.
I scratched it out. If Thomas had a brother, who had a son,
and that son had Sarah; the son would be Abigail's
2G-grandfather. The families are all in Hartford Co. CT
during the mid-1600 to mid-1700's.
If anyone can shed any light, I would certainly appreciate it!
Best Regards,
Theresa
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Samuel, of Monroe County, KY, bef 1820 - aft 1840
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:15:52 EST
Attention: Donald Hendrix
Carl Cason
Back home after some errands before a winter
storm is due to arrive (expecting pre-Christmas
snow for first time in 30 years in North Alabama),
I have finally found the discussion of Samuel
Strong in James R. Rolff's book, STRONGS OF
VIRIGNIA AND THE SOUTH. This is found in
his Chapter 8, "William Strong", in Part Two
of that Chapter, "Samuel Strong", to whom
Rolff assigns Identification Number 157, found
on pages 117-119.
Rolff cited the census records of Samuel
Strong in Monroe County, KY:
1820, Page 197: Samuel Strong, age 26-44
1830, Page 391: Samuel Strong, age 50-60
1840, Page 235: Samuel Strong, age 50-60
See his text for a complete abstract of these
three census records, or check the census
records on microfilm at your local library.
This Samuel Strong was thus probably born
in the 1770s, based on his 1830 census, and
from the 1820 census he was born after 1775,
so a birth between 1776 and 1780 is suggested.
>From whence did he come to Monroe Co., KY?
Rolff speculated that he was the same Samuel
Strong who was earlier in the part of Russell
County, VA, that became Scott Co., VA.
Samuel Strong of Russell County was one of
the petitioners in 1814 to form Scott County.
Apparently no records of him have yet been
found in Scott County, however. [Have deeds
for 1814-1830 been searched?]
Samuel Strong of Russell County was taxed
there in 1796, indicating he was a legal
adult, or born by 1775. So he is of record
in Russell County, VA, 1796 until 1814.
Rolff also speculated that Samuel Strong of
Russell County, VA, was related to William
Strong and Thomas Strong of Russell/Scott
County,VA, and that these three were probably
brothers and probably sons of Thomas Strong,
Sr., of Pittsylvania County, VA, and
Rockingham Co., NC.
Rolff's theory appears plausible. Sometimes
facts just aren't available and some educated
guesses must be made to fill in the gaps in
our knowledge. The discovery of new
facts could possibly void the theory in the
future, however.
You should study Chapter 8 in Rolff's book
for further details about these three presumed
brothers.
I have not personally researched Strongs in
Kentucky and had overlooked the fact that
Monroe County, KY, also bordered on
Jackson/Clay County, TN.
I suspect more information is available about
Samuel Strong of Monroe County, KY, in
court records, etc. Check the catalog at the
nearest LDS Family History Center for civil
and church records for Monroe County, KY,
that are available on microfilm for loan.
For you, it will be particularly important to
find records in either Monroe Co., KY, or in
Jackson/Clay Co., TN, that links your Joseph
Strong to Samuel Strong. That's the major
missing link in your ancestry.
Donald: Do you happen to be related to the
Hendrix family of Cullman County, AL? One of
my Strong relatives married A. O. Hendrix of
Cullman County and they reside Greenville, SC.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Samuel, of Rockingham Co., NC, & Lawrence Co., MS
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:44:11 EST
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From: Leanne Dooley
To: "Robert T. Strong"
Subject: Re: Descendants of Joseph Strong, TN
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:04:59 +0000
I'll get my Strong "stuff" together and get a query
out to the list soon, mine is the Samuel of Rockingham
Co VA [should be Rockingham County, North Carolina]
that married Mary Sharp and moved by 1850 to Lawrence
Co, MS. I have quite a bit on the family aftr that but still
can't tie him in with John's descendents that were in
Rockingham [County, NC] as he's not Samuel Sneed
[Strong, called Sneed Strong] and not [Samuel Strong]
the son of Zachariah Strong (I don't think)..
Will get back...in haste...
Leanne Dooley < ldooley@dexter.net >
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From: Leanne Dooley
To: "Robert T. Strong"
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:59:04 +0000
Subject: Re: STRONG, Samuel, of Lawrence Co., MS
Robert, North Carolina is where my Samuel was
when he married Mary Sharp. He was b. 1798 NC.
I have quite a bit on some of his sons from Lawrence
Co, MS and at least one, prob more then moved after
the Civil War to Conway & Perry Counties in Ark.
Please forward anything you want to the list. I
probably won't get to it "til after the holidays as
I have 6 kids. It gets crazier than normal here...
Thanks for your help.
Leanne Dooley
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: (1) Archiving postings to Strong List; (2) Strong List Digest
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:44:11 EST
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From: Lin Van Buren (veeb@uk.pipeline.com)
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
Subject: STRONG: Archiving our postings
Date: Tues 17 Dec 1996
Hi, Bob
Since the Strong Family Discussion Group is a relatively new one and not
very many people subscribe yet, I was wondering if there is any system in
place to save postings we make on it in these early stages so that they
can
be repeated later, when more people will see them? I don't have much
Strong
info yet myself, but I have a few sources here and would from time to
time
be quite happy to type up what they mention about Strongs, as I do for
other lists. But should I wait until more people will see these postings?
At the moment, I suspect that anything I post like this is already going
to
be familiar to you "core" Strong researchers, and yet it would probably
be
helpful to those just starting out on their Strong lines, who may not
have
found us yet.
Could you give me a little guidance here? If you want to post this to the
list you are welcome to; I wasn't sure if others would have this
question,
so I didn't post it on the list.
Merry Christmas!
Lin
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Message-------------------------------
*****************************************************************************
One of the things I have requested ALL subscribers do, especially
during these early days of the STRONG List, is to periodically
repost their queries or lineages. I recommend each subscriber do
this on a monthly basis for awhile.
At the present time I am saving electronic copies of all significant
postings to the STRONG Mail List. My "Strong List" folder is
growing at an alarming rate, though. I have been considering
how I might improve the system.
I can selectively forward messages to new subscribers and
have already been doing so. One of he problems is that I do
not receive an automatic notification of new subscribers. My
solution to that has been to request a weekly REVIEW of the
Strong List subscribers, which I have been forwarding to all
subscribers with some notes attached regarding lineages
being research, if I know this information.
The selective forwarding of messages becomes more
cumberson as the traffic increases on the Mail List.
I hope that each subscriber is saving their own postings to
the list and that when a new subscriber indicates an interest
in the same family, that each of your would forward your
own messages to the new subscriber via private E-Mail.
The problem with this is that conversations become private
rather than public. This can be solved via the use of making
carbon copies: one copy to the List and one copy sent
privately.
I probably need to do some pruning of my "Strong List" electronic
folder. I have saved messages that I personally posted, then
have saved them again when they appear on the List distribution.
I am considering saving the messages as text files. The advantage
of doing so is that the text files can be bundled into a compressed
file, using PKZIP 2.04G. The problem with this concept is that
I cannot attach files to messages sent via JUNO. I do have an
alternative E-Mail address from which I can send attached files,
though. Incidentally, i can also receive attached files at my
alternative E-Mail address, which is as follows:
rtstrongjr@pog.iquest.com
Do NOT send attached files to me at my JUNO address.
Larry Stephens has been working on his computer program to
allow for "digests" on a weekly, monthly, and quarterly basis.
This might be one solution, if and when his system is perfected.
I have not yet seen a digest from MAISER so I can't adequately
evaluate the concept yet. Once the digest system is in
operation, you would have to send a message to MAISER to
subscribe to the Digests for the STRONG List.
The use of Digests might be a solution for potential
subscribers who are concerned about receiving too many
messages from the Strong List. I know I have personally set
some of the lists to which I subscribe to NOMAIL because the
traffic flow was too great.
There is a List for Listowners. I will discuss archiving with the
other Listowners and report back on their comments. If I am
not incorrect, I believe Larry Stephens already has a system in
place for archiving messages. What I do not know is how to
retrieve messages archived at MAISER.
Does anyone on the Strong List have any other alternative
suggestions?
Bob Strong
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From:
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG; anywhere; anytime
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:46:24 +0000
From the Registers of St. Botolph, Bishopsgate, London
Baptisms
1664: May 1. Sarah, daughter of Jonathan and Sarah Stronge.
Burials
1618: Dec. 8. John Strong, 80.
1625: Feb. 20. Alice Stronge, 82.
1635: Nov. 18. Joan Strong, 60.
1656: April 30. Cislie Strong, 41.
1678: Dec. 19. Catherine Strong, 12.
1680: Sept. 1. Ann Strong, infant.
1681: Aug. 25. Elizabeth Strong, infant.
1712: April 24. Ann Strong, 6.
1741/2 Jan. 1. Mary Strong, 67.
-------------------------------
Norman
norman.adams@dial.pipex.com
Middlesex, UK
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Leaving the STRONG, etc., list
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:05:51 EST
To: Thomas Strahan
I regret that there were not more subscribers
who were interested in the Strahan, Strawn, etc.,
surnames, Thomas. Hopefully, more will join our
group in the future.
This week I began to post some messages
regarding 17th century immigrants, some of
whom had other names besides Strong(e). I
will continue this as time permits.
Later I will discuss some "Straughan" names
in colonial Virginia. Some of these were
mis-spellings of Strong. Some were not.
And I plan to also discuss some "Strange"
families in Colonial Virginia. There were
both Strong and Strange families in New
Kent County, VA, where my own line
of Strongs first appeared.
And I plan to discuss a "Strawn" family in
Davidson County, TN, that I had to differentiate
from my Strongs there.
There are enough descendants of John Strong,
immigrant to Massachusetts, the church "Elder",
who have subscribed to the List now that I
can leave to them the discussion of that
family, and I can focus on posting other things.
Today I will send for an updated list of
subscribers. If you are still on the list I
will send instructions to "remove" your
name unless I hear from you otherwise
by tomorrow.
Remember, too, that you can post queries
to the List even if you drop your subscription.
Just be sure to request a carbon copy of
replies to your personal E-mail address.
Good luck in your Strahan research.
Give us a report on your progress once in
a while.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: (1) Welcome to New Subscribers; (2) List of Subscribers
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:32:21 EST
SUBJECT: Welcome to New Subscribers
A "review" of the subscribers to the STRONG Mail List
today reveals a number of new subscribers. We are
anxious to become acquainted with each new subscriber.
Please post your query and/or descent from the Strong
or related or similar family so that we can all become
acquainted with your genealogical interests.
As most of us will be spending Christmas with our
families, either at our home or theirs, this list of
subscribers may not be updated again until after
the 28th of December.
And I wish each of you a joyous Holiday Season and
a peaceful, prosperous, and healthy 1997!!!
Bob Strong, Manager, Strong List
****************************************************************
SUBJECT: Members of list 'STRONG' as at WED, 18 DEC 96
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
Descendants of Strongs of England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[ __?__ Strong of Sussex, England]
Descendants of Strongs of Ireland:
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong)
[__?__ Strong of Mog., Ireland;
Ireland > Canada > Montana, USA]
Descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Descendants of other, unidentified children of John Strong
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
Other Strongs of Northeastern U. S.; lineage not posted yet.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
Probable descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
veeb@uk.pipeline.com (Lin Van Buren)
[Capt John Strong of CT & Rensselaer Co., NY]
JBleaux@aol.com (J. Breeze)
[__?__ Strong of Salisbury, CT]
Descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
ldooley@ims-1.com (Leanne Dooley)
[Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC,
& Lawremce Co., MS]
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
[__?__ Strong of Rockingham Co., NC]
Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
posted their lineage.
70771.1421@CompuServe.com
strong@seranis.com.au
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
jrshome@msmary.edu
Dbsandmd@nhb.com
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca
Removed from List; Addressee unknown@domain.
All mail was returned as undeliverable.
woodlynl@zapcom.net
Subscription to STRONG Mail List being canceled::
tstrahan@sound.net (Thomas Strahan) [PA > KY > IN]
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs in England
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:33:31 EST
ATTENTION: Norman Adams,
Middlesex, England
Thanks for posting the data on Strongs in
London in the 1600s.
Are you a Strong descendant and/or a
Strong researcher? What is your connection
to or interest in the Strong family? If you are
a descendant and/or a researcher of the
Strong family, you are invited to subscribe to
the STRONG Mail List. I noted today that you
are not yet subscribed.
I am somewhat envious of my younger sister,
who married a native of England and who makes
trips to England about once a year to visit his
relatives. I wish I had the opporuntity to do some
research on Strongs in England.
I am aware that there is considerable data on
Strongs in the British Islands available on the
International Genealogical Index (IGI), compiled
by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints (LDS, a.k.a. Mormons].
I am particularly interested in learning more about
a John Strong who was sent to the Virgiinia Colony
in 1672 as an apprentice, sailing out of Bristol.
Where would I begin to search, other than the
"Bristol Registers", from which my information was
abstracted?
The only John Strong in the Virginia Colony that
has been documented in the 1600s was claimed
as a headright of Robert Hughes, who received
a land grant in New Kent County, VA, in 1682, He
would seem to be the same person as the above
John Strong who embarked in 1672, and the same
John Strong, below, but there is no proof.
A John Strong appears in the Register of St.
Peter's Parish of the Church of England, New
Kent County, VA, beginning with the infant baptism
(christening) of John Strong, Jr., in 1698.
It seems plausible that the John Strongs of record
in 1672, 1682, and 1698 were the same person,
but there is a gap of 26 years between 1672 and
1698. So I am interested in any John Strong who
may have embarked for the British Colonies in
America before 1698.
This is not a request for you to do any reseach
on my behalf -- just a request for some guidance
in how to get started in searching for Strong
immigrants to the Colonies in America..
Have a Joyous Holiday Season!!!
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
Manager, STRONG List
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong William : I am a new subscriber
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 06:56:21 EST
--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: Strong William [strong@seranis.com.au>
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
Subject: I am a new subscriber [strong@seranis.com.au]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:01:43 +1100 (EST)
>At 09:32 PM 12/18/96 EST, Bob Strong wrote:
>SUBJECT: Welcome to New Subscribers
>
>A "review" of the subscribers to the STRONG Mail List
>today reveals a number of new subscribers. We are
>anxious to become acquainted with each new subscriber.
>Please post your query and/or descent from the Strong
>or related or similar family so that we can all become
>acquainted with your genealogical interests.
>
>Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
>posted their lineage.
>
> 70771.1421@CompuServe.com
> strong@seranis.com.au <-- *********************
> mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
> jrshome@msmary.edu
> Dbsandmd@nhb.com
> bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca
Hello all.
I have included below what I know about my
Strong ancestors. I think that they deliberately
hid their tracks, as I am having a very difficult
time in trying to locate any further information.
Thomas Strong b. ? ENGLAND occupation : Brewer
d. < 1918 ENGLAND
m. Mary Channel b. ? ENGLAND
| d. < 1918 ENGLAND
. William Strong b.1880 possibly in Oxford, ENG
d.1959? Bathurst, AUST
m. Mary Kelsall b.1893 in Staffordshire, ENG
| d. ? Sydney, AUST
. William Andrew Strong b. 1918 at Sydney, AUST
. Mary Winifred Strong b. 1921 at Sydney, AUST
. Edna F Strong b. c.1820 at Sydney, AUST
I haven't seen any discussion on the Strong's in England
or Australia in these time frames, but if the group gets
bigger, I might find a link somewhere.
There is no marriage listed in the St Catherine's Indexes
for Thomas and Mary, and I have not been able to locate the
family in Oxford, ENG in the 1881 Census. When the full
1881 census is released, I will make another more
comprehensive search. In the mean time it is very
interesting to watch all the early American Strong history
come to light.
regards, Bill Strong.
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From: PattFulton@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Eng,MA, CT, PA, OH, IL IA, 1610-Present
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:27:00 -0500
Patt Fulton's lineage: [as given in Strong Family History Update, Vol. II,
pp. 537-540, published by The Strong Family Asso. of America.]
1-1. (Elder) John Strong, b. ca. 1610, Chard, Somerset, England, d. 14
Apr.,
1699, Northampton, MA, mar. 1) Margery Deane, 2) Abigail Ford
2-6 Thomas Strong, (1636-1689) mar. Rachel Holton
3-4081. Justice Joseph Strong, (1672-1763) mar. Sarah Allen
4-5743. (Deacon) Phinehas Strong, mar. Mary Parker.
5-7555 Ozias Strong, (1734-1897), mar. Susannah West.
6-7582 Judge Horatio Strong, (1758-1831), mar. Patience Stevens
7-7612 (Honorable) Jared Strong, (1784-1827), Jackson Co., OH, mar. Betsey
Gregory.
8-7712 Stephen Strong, b. 23 May, 1816, Jackson Co., OH, d. 2 Sep., 1884,
Norwalk, Los Angeles Co., CA., mar. Emily Pickeral/Pickrell.
9-4 John Davis Strong, b. 19 Dec., 1841, Knox Co., IL., d. 30 Jan,
1924,
Geary, Blaine Co., OK., mar. Nancy Catherine Hiner.
10-15 Jessamiine Esther Strong, b. 21, 1878, Decatur Co., IA., d. 27
Apr., 1961,
Humboldt, Humboldt Co., IA. mar. John Edwin Fierce.
11-20 Vesper Beryl Fierce, b. 10 Aug., 1899, Lucas Co., IA., d. 1 Feb.,
1983,
Humboldt, Humboldt Co., IA., mar. Harry V. Hull.
12-23 Patricia Hull, b. 26 Apr., 1926, Ringgold Co., IA., mar. Robert F.
Fulton,
20 June, 1948. Resided Clinton, Clinton Co.,, IA. Robert d.
31 May,
1988, Rochester, MN.
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From: Lise Elliott
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG 1766 1889 SSX, ENG
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:23:06 GMT
I thought I would post my Strong family history in a little more
detail, in case there is someone out there with a connection!
Thomas Strong b. 1766 in East Sussex
m. Elizabeth Harris 1790 in Falmer, East Sussex
son - Henry Strong b. 1811 in West Blatchington or Falmer, East Sussex
m. Caroline Parker 1835 in Falmer, East Sussex
son - John Strong b. 1841 in West Blatchington, East Sussex
m. Elizabeth Harriott 1863 in Brighton, East Sussex
daughter - Eliza Annie Strong b. 1868 in Brighton, East Sussex
m. Walter Parsons 1889 in Brighton, East
Sussex
I have more details on these Strongs, so please contact me if you
think I can help or vice versa.
Thanks
Lise
**********************************************************************
* Lise Elliott *
* Assistant Registrar *
* Management Information Unit *
* Coventry University *
* Email: reg040@coventry.ac.uk *
* Tel: 01203 8318899 *
**********************************************************************
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From: dearborn@ccnet.com (Terry Dearborn)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: ? > Litchfield CT > Aurora IA; 1791-1891
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:16:08 -0800
Hello, group
I am searching for the parents of Lysander STRONG, #1 in the report below.
First Generation
---------------------------------------------
1. Lysander STRONG. Born 1791. Died 1837 in Medina, OH.
He married Harriet KEITH. Born 9 Jun 1806. Died 1841. They had the
following children:
2 i. Patty Martha Melissa STRONG
Second Generation
---------------------------------------------
2. Patty Martha Melissa STRONG. Born 31 May 1824 in Litchfield, CT. Died 17
Feb 1891 in Aurora, IA. Buried in Spangler cemetary, Aurora, Iowa.
She married John SMITH, in Wis. Born ? 1826 in IRL (Ireland). Died 1869 in
Buchanen Co., IA. Buried in Spangler Cemetary, Aurora, Iowa. They had the
following children:
3 i. Adelbert SMITH
Regards from Terry
dearborn@ccnet.com
Lafayette, CA
==================
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: How to Retrieve Archived Messages for STRONG Mail List
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:18:13 EST
TEMPORARILY HALTING YOUR MAIL:
If you plan to be away from home or your computer
for more than two or three days, you are advised to have
your mail to the STRONG Mail List temporarily halted.
To do this, send a message to the MAISER address
< MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >
with the following commands in the body of the
message, beginning on line one, far left margin.
SET STRONG NOMAIL
EXIT
Upon your return home or to your computer, send
the following command to the MAISER address to
start your mail again.
SET STRONG MAIL
EXIT
The "NoMail" command actually stops all mail from
being delivered to you. It is not equivalent to having
the Post Office "hold" your mail until you return.
So, how do you get copies of messages posted to
the STRONG Mail List for the period of time you
had the Mail List set to "NoMail"?
***********************************************************
RETRIEVING ARCHIVED MAIL:
ALL messages sent to the STRONG Mail List are
archived on a daily basis at the MAISER listserver site.
Each MAISER List is assigned a code. The code for
the STRONG list is: .std
[Why ".std"? The code ".str" was already taken. It is
just an arbitrary three letter code.]
Archives messages can be retrieved in a one step
or two steps process, depending upon whether you
know the dates you wish to retrieve.
Step 1 - If you don't know the date or dates you
wish to retrieve.
Send an e-mail to: maiser@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
On the first line of body of the message, enter:
send std.dir
exit
This will return a list of all archived STRONG Family Mail List
files by the date on which they were archived. This list looks like
the following:
Archive files found for STRONG
12/27/96
96-12-18.STD ** 96-12-19.STD ** 96-12-20.STD ** 96-12-21.STD
96-12-22.STD ** 96-12-23.STD ** 96-12-24.STD ** 96-12-25.STD
96-12-26.STD ** 96-12-27.STD **
The STRONG Mail List officially began on 96-12-02 (December 2,
1996) so no messages will be archived prior to that date.
Step 2 - You know the dates you wish to retrieve.
Determine the date for which you would like to receive the archived
files and send an e-mail to:
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
On the first line of text, enter: "send YY-MM-DD.std".
For example, if you wish to retreive the messages posted to the
STRONG Mail List for the 18th of December, 1996, you would
type the following commands beginning on the first line of your
message addressed to MAISER.
send 96-12-18.std
exit
Substitute for "96-12-18.std" whatever date you desire. You may
enter as many dates as desired, but each must be on a separate line
without a blank line in between. For example:
send 96-12-18.std
send 96-12-19.std
send 96-12-26.std
exit
A signature line is not needed, but if you add a signature line
be sure to leave a blank line between the "exit line" and your
signature line. The MAISER computer will ignore anything
after the "exit" command, or anything after a blank line, or
anything after an incorrect command. The "exit" command is
not required but is advised when sending commands to the
MAISER computer.
[The MAISER computer does not seem to be case sensitive.
Your commands can be either upper case or lower case.
or a mixture of upper and lower case.]
NEW SUBSCRIBERS can use the above described
procedure to obtain messages that were posted prior to
their subscription, if they wish to do so.
******************************************************************
TEMPORARILY HALTING MAIL FOR OTHER
MAISER MAIL LISTS:
If you are on several Mail Lists and do not know the codes
for each of the lists, how do you determine the codes?
Send a message to the MAISER address with the following
commands.
send filelist.1
send filelist.2
send filelist.3
exit
You will receive three messages giiving you the code for
each and every MAISER Mail List.
When you send commands to MAISER, you will normally
receive your reply within less than 24 hours.
*****************END OF MESSAGE ************************
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From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONGS OF ROCKINGHAM, NC
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:27:33 -0800
Hello -
I'm delighted to be a part of the Strong Discussion Group, and sorry
it's taken this long for me to become acquainted with everyone, but
'Tis the Season!"
My fourth Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Strong, b. 2 Jul 1744,
Hanover Co., VA, the daughter of William Strong, b. 1700, New
Kent Co., VA. (For those of you familiar with J. R. Rolff's book,
Elizabeth is Chapter 10.)
I have extensive data and history on Elizabeth's son, Alexander Strong
Martin, b. 8 Jul 1787, Rockingham Co., NC; d. 18 Oct 1864, Holmes
Co., MS. - m. Margaret Sharp, d/o Adam Sharp & Mary Whiteside.
Alexander Strong Martin was the son of NC Governor Alexander Martin
of Rockingham Co., NC.
My question concerns Elizabeth's eldest son, John Strong. I do not
know who his father was, and probably never will, but I would like
to know what happened to Alexander Strong Martin's half brother.
John was born about 1765, I would think either in Pittsylvania Co., or
Hanover Co., VA I believe John probably married Sarah Grogan.
It would appear from census records that John remained in Rockingham
Co. through 1830. From Census records, it would appear that
Elizabeth lived in her son Alexander S. Martin's household up through
1820. A. S. Martin obtained a land grant in Holmes Co., MS in 1835,
but he did not move his family there until probably 1845. In 1848, A. S.
Martin purchased 530 ac. in Holmes Co., MS. from Rodolphus Dodd,
a resident of Holmes Co., but was originally from Rockingham Co., NC,
and in fact had married Cecilia Sharp (I don't know if Cecilia was a
sister of A. S. Martin's wife, Margaret Sharp) Rodolphus Dodd was born
ca 1804, and died in Holmes Co., MS. Dodd's will was written in
Jan., 1855, and witnessed by a JOHN STRONG! I can't help but wonder
whether this could be Alexander's half brother. Can anyone help me?
I'll be glad to share what information I have.
Francie Lane flane@otn.net
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From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: STRONG, Samuel, of Rockingham Co., NC, & Lawrence Co., MS
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:36:57 -0800
Dear Leanne and interested Strong researchers--
I posted a query earlier today re: Elizabeth Strong, and her son
Alexander Strong Martin and 1/2 brother John Strong, of Rockingham
Co., NC. In that query I noted a land deed between Alexander Strong
Martin and Rodolphus Dodd in Holmes Co., MS in 1848. The thing I
failed to mention, because I hadn't thought it pertinent to the Strong
List -- was that John Sharp and Deborah Sharp of the County of Lawrence,
State of MS, co-owned the land with Rodolphus Dodd, whose wife was
Cecilia Sharp Dodd. Alexander Strong Martin's wife was Margaret Sharp,
the sister of your MARY SHARP STRONG (Mrs. Samuel Strong). I'll be very
anxious to correspond with you, but with the holidays here, I know you're
busy. Hope to hear from you soon.
Francie Lane flane@otn.net
------- Begin abstract of forwarded message ----------
>
> From: Leanne Dooley
> To: "Robert T. Strong"
> Subject: Re: Descendants of Joseph Strong, TN
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:04:59 +0000
>
> I'll get my Strong "stuff" together and get a query
> out to the list soon, mine is the Samuel of Rockingham
> Co VA [should be Rockingham County, North Carolina]
> that married Mary Sharp and moved by 1850 to Lawrence
> Co, MS. I have quite a bit on the family aftr that but still
> can't tie him in with John's descendents that were in
> Rockingham [County, NC] as he's not Samuel Sneed
> [Strong, called Sneed Strong] and not [Samuel Strong]
> the son of Zachariah Strong (I don't think)..
>
> Will get back...in haste...
> Leanne Dooley < ldooley@dexter.net >
>
> --------- End forwarded message ----------
>
> *******************************************************************
> ---------Begin abstract of forward message #2----------------------
>
> From: Leanne Dooley
> To: "Robert T. Strong"
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:59:04 +0000
> Subject: Re: STRONG, Samuel, of Lawrence Co., MS
>
> Robert, North Carolina is where my Samuel was
> when he married Mary Sharp. He was b. 1798 NC.
> I have quite a bit on some of his sons from Lawrence
> Co, MS and at least one, prob more then moved after
> the Civil War to Conway & Perry Counties in Ark.
>
> Please forward anything you want to the list. I
> probably won't get to it "til after the holidays as
> I have 6 kids. It gets crazier than normal here...
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Leanne Dooley
>
> ----------------End of forwarded message #2--------------
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: ELIZABETH STRONG m. Samuel Crowley
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 06:30:38 EST
ATTENTION: Francie Lane
Quoting myself from page 265 of SFAA's latest
book, STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME V:
"Fortunately for his descendants, 3. William Strong,
christened 5 JAN 1701 [contemporary calendar],
left a family birth register, mentioned above. As
a consequence, there has been little controversy
regarding Rolff's treatment of the children of William
Stonr in Chapters 4 through 11 of his text. There is
one exception. Jack C. Grantham , Jr., 10102
Lanshire Drive, Dallas, Texas 75238, is a Crowley
family historian . Grantham reporteed in a letter
dated 1 JAN 1994 that "...there has never been
anyone question the assertion that the mother of my
ancestor, James Crowley,was a lady named
Elizabeth Strong...and from the earliest times no
one doubted that Elizabeth Strong was the widow
of Samuel Crowley and the mother of his children."
Samuel Crowley was killed by British forces on
10 OCT 1774. "The Journal of the House of
Burgesses, in June 1775 spoke of the man and
his exploits and it awarded a pension to Elizabeth
for the support of their several children. Five years
later, when Virginia declared itself a State, the
Assembly of Virginia considereed an increase in
that pension and the records of that refer to
Elizabeth Crowley and numerous children...We are
certain of three children and there is some liklihood
of a fourth...." The children of Elizabeth Strong
Crowley named were 94. James, 95. John, and 96.
Effie Crowely. This family resided Pittsylvania,
Henry, and Patrick Counties, VA, according to
Grantham's account."
"This new information invalidates Rolff's conclusion
that the Elizabeth Strong in his Chapter 10 was a
daughter of 3. William Strong. The person described
in Chapter 10 was apparently a different Elizabeth
Strong. It was 19. Elizabeth Strong Crowely who
was the daughter of 3. William Strong. There have
been repeated instances when there have been two
or more Strongs with the same given (Christian)
name who have been confused, or who could
possibly become confused...."
So there are two competing theories about which
Elizabeth Strong was the daughter of William Strong
of Hanover County, VA, and Pittsylvania County, VA.
I believe James Robert Rolff has accepted the
theory put forth by Jack C. Grantham. You might
want to ask James Rober Rolff his opionion of
Grantham's theory. Write to James Robert Rolff
at 9101 East Main Street, Galesburg, Michigan 49053.
A little additional data on Elizabeth Strong Crowley
is found on Page 289 of STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES,
VOLUME V. For example, it is pointed out that
Sarah Strong, daughter of William Strong, married
Benjamin Crowley, who was a brother of Samuel
Crowley. The children of Sarah Strong Crowely are
enumerated on Page 189. It was reported this
couple married in Halifax County, VA, that Benjamin
was a soldier in the French and Indain Wars, and
that this family migrated to Oglethorpe Co., GA,
apparently after the Revolutionary War.
The spouses of the children of Elizabeth Strong
Crowely are identifies. James Crowley married
Mary McLain. John Crowley married a Miss McLain.
Effie Crowley married Jeremiah Burnett.
[In Georgia, Frances Strong, daughter of Johnson
Strong and granddaughter of William Strong, son
of John Strong, Jr., married Samuel Elisha Crowley
about 1795. I am uncertain about whether and how
this Samuel Elisha Crowley in Georgia was related to
the Samuel and Benjamin Crowely of Virginia.]
If we accept Grantham's account of Elizabeth Strong
as being the daughter of William Strong, then who
were the parents of Elizabeth Strong, consort of
Alexander Martin, Govenor of North Carolina? Furhter
research is needed to answer this question. The
account of Elizabeth Strong being the mother of
Alexander Strong Martin, alias Alexander Martin Strong,
is not questioned, and is proven by the 1807 will
of Gov. Alexander Martin.
>From Rolff's Chapter 10, it appears that Elizabeth
Strong was a resident of Guilford County, NC, in
1783. She was possibly the widow of a Mr. Storng.
Further research in Guilford Co., NC, records might
reveal the identify of her presumed husband.
A 1788 deed proves she was then residing in
Rockingham County, NC, and had a son John,
who was a legal adult, or born by 1767. Where
was Alexander Martin in 1767 and earlier? Rolff's
account places him in Guilford County in 1772.
Was he there earlier to attend law school or as
a law apprentice?
James Rolff pointed out that there were two John
Strongs who were in Rockinham County. One
remained in Rockingham County. The other did
not. I personally discovered the estate records of
a John Strong who died in Davidson County, TN,
about 1816, and subsequent records tend to
prove he was from North Carolina.
>From Davidson County, TN, Court ORDERS,
1812-1816, pages 522, 529:
Records of Davidson County Court, JAN 1816:
"Ordered that Martha Strong have letters of
Administration on the estate of John Strong,
deceased, she having given bond of five
hundred dollars with William H. Nance and
Jacob Morton her Securities and Qualified
according to Law."
"Inventory of the estate of John Strong,
deceased, returned into Court by Martha Strong,
administratrix &etc and ordered to be recorded
&etc."
"Ordered that Martha Strong administratrix, &etc.,
sell the chattell Estate of John Strong, deceased,
giving legal credits to purchasers, and return
an account of such sale unto an ensuing court."
A memorandum of sales of the estate was
presented to the court by Martha Strong in JUL 1816.
She purchased some furniture and a cow and calf.
This John Strong was enumerated in a special
census, ordered by the Assembly on 11 NOV 1811:
"The following is the names and number taken in
the County of Davidson by the Justice of the Peace
and Returned to me as Clerk of said County Court,
To Wit:
Captain Kincaid's Company taken in by
Benajah Gray, Esquire
John Strong 3 free taxable inhabitants"
The census was certifed by the County Clerk,
Andrew Ewing, on 13 AUG 1812.
This record suggests that John Strong had two or
more sons, two being of age to be tithables.
John Strong also appeared on an 1805 tax list in
Davidson County with 2 free white males and 5
taxable slaves. So one son became of tithable
age between 1805 and 1811.
On 18 DEC 1819, the widow, "Patsy Strong"
[Mrs. Martha ("Patsy") Morton Strong] remarried to
Thomas Williams in Davidson County, TN.
Another document was found that explicitly acknowledges
that Mrs, Thomas Williams was the former wife of John
Strong. At the moment I cannot find my notes regarding
that record. I will continue to search for these notes.
The Morton family was from North Carolina.
So the issue is still WHICH John Strong was the son
of Elizabeth Strong of Guilford and Rockingham Counties,
NC? Was it the John Strongwho continued to reside in
Rockingham County, as documented by Rolff, or was it
the John Strong who migrated to Davidson County, TN?
Some more research is needed to indentify the children
of John Strong and Martha ("Patsy") Morton Strong.
Perhaps research on Thomas Williams would provide
some answers.
I seem to recall that the Strongs subsequently found in
Maury County, TN, may have been children of this John
Strong. One of these was name Alexander Strong! He
is buried in Worley Cemetery at Isom on Cathey's
Creek: born March 19, 1806; died 29 JUN 1883. The
name Alexander Strong would certainly suggest that
this clan of Strongs might have been descended from
Alexander Martin, governor of NC.
You should be cautioned that all Strongs in Maury
County were not of this same clan. For example, the
M. T. Strong on the 1850 census was Matthew T. Strong,
the son of David Strong, Sr., of Giles County, TN. David
Strong descended from John Strong, Jr, of Hanover
County, VA, through John Strong, III, who resided
briefly in Campbell County, VA, before migrating to
Georgia.
Sorry to muddy the waters for you, Francie Lane.
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
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From: dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Genealogy from Floyd E. Roberts
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:39:11 -0500 (EST)
In organizing my STRONG correspondence I have come across
correspondence from a Mr. Floyd E. Roberts, 3214 Gerald St.,
Madison, WI 53704-2747. I wonder if the STRONG lineage he
follows is tied in to those on the STRONG list being investigated by
Robert T. Strong, Russell Laird, Samuel Strong, Francie Lane or
other STRONG list subscribers? In bare outline form (he has much
more detail) it would be:
I. John Strong b. ca. 1675 m. ca. 1697
A. John Strong, Jr., chr. 13 Nov 1698, New Kent, VA
B. William Strong, b. 1 Jan 1701, chr. 5 Jan 1701, New Kent,
VA d. >1770
1. Mary Strong, b. 10 Dec 1732, Hanover, VA m. 8 Oct
1751 Edward Colley, Norfolk, VA
2. John Strong b. 2 Nov 1734, Hanover, VA d. ca. 1819
m. ca. 1758 Sarah Sneed, Hanover, VA
3. William Strong, b. 10 Mar 1736, Hanover, VA d. ca.
1770
4. Thomas Strong, b. 16 Dec 1739, Hanover, VA d. ca.
1779 Rockingham, NC m. Mary Webster
5. Sary Strong b. 24 Jul 1742, Hanover, VA
6. Elizabeth Strong b. 21 Jul 1744, Hanover, VA
7. James Strong, b. 7 Mar 1746 Hanover, VA m. ca. 1770
Pittsylvania, VA d. ca. 1805
a. John Strong b. ca. 1772 Rockingham, NC
b. Samuel Strong Sr. b. ca. 1774 Rockingham, NC
c. Thomas Strong ca. 1778 d. >1830, m. Martha Mary
Bond b. 19 Aug 1778 Guliford Co., NC.
(1) Thomas Strong, Jr. b. ca. 1804 NC d. <1861
Grant Co, WI m. ca.. 1826 NC Mary A. ? b.
1810 d. 3 Apr 1864 Plattesville, Grant Co., WI
d. James Strong b. ca. 1783 Rockingham, NC
e, William Strong b. ca. 1785 Rockingham, NC
C. George Strong, chr. 23 May 1703, New Kent, VA
D. Nathaniel Strong, b. ca. 1704, New Kent, VA
Donald L. Hendrix
Mesa, AZ
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From: sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Sources
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 15:24:03 EST
It would be very helpful if, when you are asking for information, let us
know WHERE you have looked before. It is very discouraging to spend a lot
of time doing look-ups only to find that you have already covered that
source. Soooo-do your best to tell us what you have done before-it will
save many a lot of time.
Sandy in Lubbock TX
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: Genealogy from Floyd E. Roberts
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 23:16:07 EST
ATTENTION: Donald L. Hendrix
***************************************************************
I. John Strong b. ca. 1675 m. ca. 1697
A. John Strong, Jr., chr. 13 Nov 1698, New Kent, VA
B. William Strong, chr. 5 Jan 1701, New Kent,
VA d. >1770
C. George Strong, chr. 23 May 1703, New Kent, VA
[D. Nathaniel Strong, b. ca. 1704, New Kent, VA]
****************************************************************
Yes, that's the same family, but Nathaniel Strong of
Norfolk County [not New Kent County] is not a proven
son of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County. This was
a speculation made by James Robert Rolff in his book
that is being reported as a fact. There just isn't a sufficient
basis for believing that Nathaniel Strong of Norfolk
County was a son of John Strong of New Kent County.
He may have been, but until convincing evidence is
documented it is best NOT to assign Nathaniel as a son of
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County.
On page 338 of his book, James R. Rolff stated:
"...I want to STRONGLY EMPHASIZE that this connection
of Nathaniel [Strong] to our Strong family is only a
THEORY of mine, and even I am not near convinced
that my own theory is true."
Very little is known about Nathaniel Strong [Sr.],
father of Nathaniel Strong, Jr., of Norfolk Co., VA.
Nathaniel Strong, Sr., died before 16 MAR 1753,
when Nathaniel Strong, Jr., an orphan, was bound
out as an apprentice. Rolff theorized that Nathaniel
Strong, Sr.,may have been the same person as
Nathaniel Strong of Prince George's County,
Maryland, who married there in 1738 and whose
son, Nathaniel Strong, Jr., was born there in 1738.
Rolff also refers to a Nathaniel Strong who was
residing in Stafford Co.,VA, in 1740, believing he
was the same person.
There was another Nathaniel Strong that DOES belong to
this family. This Nathaniel Strong, Sr., first appears in the
records of Louisa County, VA, near John Strong, III, in the
1760s and he follows John Strong, III, to Goochland County,
in the 1770s, lives on John Strong's land before buying some
of it, etc. The evidence indicates he was a younger brother
of John Strong III, who was a son of John Strong, Jr., born
1698, above. Nathaniel Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Jr.,
settled around 1815 near Huntsville in Madison County, AL,
and his son, Nathan Strong [Jr.] lived in Lawrence Co.,
Alabama, for a few years before settling at Manchester,
Dallas (now Clark) County, Arkansas.
Rolff attempted to prove that Nathaniel Strong, Sr.,
who apparently died in Norfolk Co., VA, around 1753,
was the father of John Strong, III, of Hanover, Louisa,
Goochland, and Campbell Counties, VA, and Clarke
County, GA. The evidence is quite clear now that
John Strong, III, was a brother of Martin Strong, who
made purchases charged to the account of the estate
of John Strong [Jr.], deceased, in western Hanover
County in 1751. This record of the death of John
Strong [Jr.] in or before 1751 was not discovered
by me until AFTER Rolff published his book.
It seems clear that the data sent to you by Floyd E.
Roberts had its origin in the book by James R. Rolff.
John Strong, Jr., is my own line and I will be posting more
details about the family probably after the New Year.
Eventually I plan to publish a book about my own Strong
lineage that will attempt to correct some of the errors in
Rolff's account of my line, based on mis-interpretations
of data I and others contributed to his book. In order to
get this accomplished I may have to become inactive on
this discussion group for awhile.
Enjoy the Holiday Season, Everyone!!!
Bob Strong
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From:
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:47:26 +0000
Extracted from "ABC Court Directory" of London for 1871:
Strong, Thomas B., 1 Priory Grove, West Brompton, S.W.
Strong, misses, 14 Stanford Road, South Kensington, W.
Strong, Henry L., 38 Seymour Street, Lower.
Strong, H. Linwood, (Registrar- Ct of Prob. & Div. Penzances, Lord),
6 Knightrider St., Gt., Doctors' Commns., E.C.
Strong, Isaac, 76 Gloucester Street, Belgrave Road, S.W.
Strong, J. H., 38 Charlwood Street, Belgrave Rd., Pimlico, S.W.
Strong, William, 34 Clifton Road, St. John's Wood, N.W.
Stronge, Maj. Wm. 5 Alfred Place West, Thurloe Square, S.W.
--------------------------------------
Norman
norman.adams@dial.pipex.com
Middlesex, UK.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: ELIZABETH STRONG, consort of Gov. Alexander Martin of NC
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 05:18:21 EST
TO: France Lane
CC: Strong Mail List
As a researcher of Miss or Mrs. Elizaberth Strong, consort of
Gov. Alexander Martin of North Carolina, you are most welcome
as a subscriber on the Strong Mail List. I just want to point out
that there were two Elizabeths and it is more probahblye that it
is was the Elizabeth Strong who married Samuel Crowley who
was a s daughter of William Strong, Sr., of Pittsylvania County,
VA.
What was your evaluation of the materials I encluded regarding
the John Strong of Davidson County, TN, being a good prospect
for being the missing son of Elizabeth Strong, consort of
Alexander Martin? Some research on Mortons of North Carolina
might be revealing, particularly if you can find data for Martha
("Patsy") Morton, who married (1) John Strong and (2) Thomas
Williams.
I have searched through my electronic records of Strongs and
find no Field(s) marriage. I do., however, recall that the Farrars
of Virginia intermarried with the Field family, resulting in the
name Field Farrar, etc. I recall the name Peter Field.
These Farrars resided at Farrar's Isalnd and in Mecklenburg Co.
VA., before some of them migrated to South Carolina and GA
and then into Mississippi, etc.
On page 446 of Volume VI of SFAA's STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES
it is reported that William Carrell Rives Strong married Elizabeth
Fields. Elizabeth Fields Strong is reported to have been born 31 MAR
1836 and to have died 12 AUG 1887. This William Strong was
reported to be a descendant of Thomas Strong, Jr., of Rockingham
County, NC, and he resided in Scott Co., VA. Ten children of
William Strong are enumerated. William outlived his wife, Elizabeth,
and remarried to Elizabeth L. Carter, born about 1856. William
married for the third time on 17 DEC 1891 to Matilde V. Pendleton,
born about 1864, according to the person who contributed
this account. So this Elizabeth Fields Strong does not match the
records of Elizabeth Strong, consort of Gov. Alexander Martin.
This family is discussed in Rolff's book on pages 158 and following.
Elizabeth Fields Strong is enumerated on the 1860, 1870, and 1880
census of Scott County, VA.
Please continue to participate in the Strong Family discussion
group, Francie. We need to know the full story of Elizabeth
Strong, consort of Gov. Alexander Martin. Hopefully you can fill
in some of the missing details. Records of Guilford County, NC,
may hold some clues. As I recall, Guilford County was earlier
Orange County, NC, so you may need to look at early records of
Orange County, NC, as well. Even earlier, this part of North
Carolina was part of Bladen County but no records of this early
period of Bladen County survived.
Most of Rolff's data on Elizabeth Strong, consort of Alexander
Martin, was contibuted by Linda [Mrs. William L.] Vernon, who
resided around1980 at Route 4, Box 179, Stoneville, NC.
She wrote an article about Elizabeth Strong that appeared in a
newspaper. You might write to James Rolff (9101 East Main
Street, Galesburg, MI 49053) and ask the name of the newspaper
and the date the article was published. You can then track down
a copy of the article.
My 1995 phone directory, on CD, lists 21 Vernon families at
Stoneville, Rockingham Co, NC, but no William L. Vernon.
There was a William L. Vernon residing at 100 Highland Ave.,
Mount Airy, Surry Co., NC 27030-8660,
Telephone 910-320-2342.
Best wishes in your search for Elizabeth Strong and her
descendants. Please keep the Strong Mail List informed of your
progress.
Bob Strong
************************************************************************
On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 12:00:54 -0800 Francie Lane
writes:
>Dear Robert,
>Thank you so very much for taking the time & giving me the updated
>information on Elizabeth Strong Crowley! I haven't been actively
>doing any research on the Strong family recently so was unaware of
>the correction. There has always been a doubt in my mind that
>my Elizabeth Strong had never married. This was due to the fact
>that she was able to buy and sell property as a single woman, which
>was not considered legal at the time.
>I think what I may find with some diligent searching, is that
>Elizabeth may have been born a Fields, as that name has been used in
>subsequent generations. Perhaps you could tell me if you have a
>marriage record for a Strong and an Elizabeth Fields?
>Even though, I now find I'm not a part of the Strong family, I am very
>grateful to your List in helping me find Leanne Dooley, who has a
>common Sharp family connection, and I would still like to find my
>Alexander Strong Martin's half-brother, John Strong.
>Re Gov. Martin's whereabouts in 1767, Gov. Alexander Martin settled in
>Salisbury, NC about 1760 as a merchant. In 1765 he was appointed
>Justice of the Peace, and 1766 was made King's Attorney for Rowan Co.
>Gov. Martin moved into his Danbury Plantation abt. 1773.
>Thanks,
>Francie Lane
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From: Leanne Dooley
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: ELIZABETH STRONG m. Samuel Crowley
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:45:29 +0000
Robert, I'd like to contribute a quote from a letter written to me in
1989 by Mr J.R. Rolff, regarding Elizabeth Strong of Chapter 10 of his
book, " Another thing I've found, that is of major importance, is that
the Elizabeth Strong of Chapter 10 (a sister of the Strong brothers who
first settled in that area) actually married a Samuel Crowley
(supposedly the first man killed in the Revolution). All of the
Elizabeth Strong records that I have in Chapter 10 (except the birth
date) actually belong to another Elizabeth Strong. This other Elizabeth
Strong would have to be a widow of one of the Strong brothers mentioned
above, probably Thomas. ....Also the Sarah Strong of Chapter 9 probably
married Benjamen Crowley, brother of the above Samuel, but this isn't
proven yet." I've written to him about 3 weeks ago but used the old
Battle Creek address. I'll probably get it back as I haven't heard from
him and he was good to get me speedy replies before. Hope this helps
and tell Francie, I'll get connected to her right after Christmas. Her
info on the Sharp girls is new to me, but I have contact with another
Sharp resarcher that knows of Adam's family. We've got to talk. Cheery
Season To All...And To All A Good Night !! Leanne Dooley
ldooley@dexter.net
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From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: MRS. ELIZABETH STRONG
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:22:48 -0800
Dear Robert & other Rockingham Co., NC Researchers,
Thank you for you invitation to stay with the Strong List. I will as
I've always felt "at home" with the Strongs - little did I know!
Strange of you to suggest I contact Linda Vernon. I had already
called her Saturday morning to tell her the news, or rather to
confirm her suspicions. Linda and I had discussed several years ago the
question of whether Elizabeth Strong could have been the widow of a Mr.
Strong. Linda is also descended from Alexander Strong Martin, through
his daughter, Sallie Fields Martin, who married James Lagrand Cardwell.
I am descended through his other daughter Mary Sharp Martin, who married
Calvin J. Andrews. The Cardwells remained in Rockingham Co., but sister
Mary moved with A. S. Martin to MS. Linda & I will begin searching for
Elizabeth's true origins after the holidays.
I will attempt to research the Fields family further. Nathaniel Fields
lived in Hanover Co., VA, b. 1720-30, and died April 1, 1777. He had a
son, Ansel, b. 1749 in Hanover Co. and moved to Rowan Co., which became
Guilford Co., and is now Rockingham Co., NC with his parents ca 1765, and
served in the R. W. under Gov. Martin's brother, Col. James Martin.
Another son, John Fields of Rockingham Co., NC, served in the R. W. under
Gov. Martin, himself. John married Mary Gibson, and had a daughter
Susannah, b. 1785, who married Robert Strong, son of John Strong
(1734-1811) Another daughter, Anna Fields married Thomas Strong.
I appreciate all the data you sent me, Robert. Re the Maury Co. Strongs
and that Alexander Strong, I do know that Gov. Alexander Martin only had
one son, so the Maury clan would not have been descended from Gov.
Martin. Re: the John Strong of Davidson Co., TN, I am not inclined to
believe this is Elizabeth's son John. Alexander Strong Martin remained
in Rockingham Co., NC until 1840, when he moved to Guilford Co., NC, then
ca 1845, moved to Holmes Co., MS. In the 1830 Rockingham census,
John Strong, Sr. and John Strong, Jr. were living in close proximity to
A. S. Martin, and I feel this John, Sr. was Alexander's 1/2 brother. I
think the Davidson Co., TN. John is John Strong, Jr., b. before 1765, son
of John (1734-1811). My reasons primarily involve land records, showing
John (1734-1811) living in close proximity to 2 Morton families and Peay
family. A Peay son moved to Davidson Co., TN and also married a Morton
daughter. Elizabeth Strong purchased property from Benjamin Goin(g) in
1783, adjoining Thomas Grogan on Fisher's Creek. In 1787, Elizabeth sold
to James Rhodes, land on Fishing Creek, adjoining Thomas Grogan. In
1788, Elizabeth purchased 50 ac., adjoining Turbefield Barnes. Wit: John
Strong (I believe this was her son - rather that John (1734-1811). 1794,
William Fields sold to John Strong, 50 ac. on Sharps Creek, adjoining
Turbefield Barnes and Thomas Henderson. (Rolf's book, p. 50, attributes
this 1794 sale to John (1734-1811); however, I believe it is the
purchase of Elizabeth's son John of additional property, adjoining his
mother's land. Thomas Henderson adjoins the land, and Thomas Henderson
was Gov. Martin's brother-in-law. This land in question in both
Elizabeth's purchase of 1788 and John's purchase in 1794, is very near to
Gov. Martin's Danbury Plantation, and not near to where John Strong
(1734-1811) lived. P. S.: Turbefield Barnes married Agnes Fields, and
their son Ansel Barnes, married Mary Strong, b. 1813. I agree with
Rolf's opinion that Elizabeth's son John married Sarah Grogan, because
Grogan family history reflects Sarah marrying a John Strong, and
Elizabeth was a Grogan neighbor.
Happy Holidays to One and All!
Francie Lane flane@otn.net
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From: Strong William [strong@seranis.com.au]
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs of London
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:27:17 +1100 (EST)
Hello Norman (norman.adams@dial.pipex.com)
I read with interest your contribution as listed below
and was wondering what exactly the ABC Court Directory
of London contained. Is it an index of court officials
and criminals ? Please advise.
I am looking for a lead on a Thomas Strong who was the
father of William Strong (b. 25 Sep 1880 at Oxford). I
think that the only way that I will be able to
identify him is to eliminate all the other Thomas'
as listed in the St Catherine's House Indexs'.
>Extracted from "ABC Court Directory" of London for 1871:
>Strong, Thomas B., 1 Priory Grove, West Brompton, S.W.
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
>Strong, misses, 14 Stanford Road, South Kensington, W.
>Strong, Henry L., 38 Seymour Street, Lower.
>Strong, H. Linwood, (Registrar- Ct of Prob. & Div. Penzances, Lord),
6 Knightrider St., Gt., Doctors' Commns., E.C.
>Strong, Isaac, 76 Gloucester Street, Belgrave Road, S.W.
>Strong, J. H., 38 Charlwood Street, Belgrave Rd., Pimlico, S.W.
>Strong, William, 34 Clifton Road, St. John's Wood, N.W.
>Stronge, Maj. Wm. 5 Alfred Place West, Thurloe Square, S.W.
regards, Bill Strong.
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From:
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: (1) ABC Court Directory of London; (2) Thomas Strong of
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:33:47 +0000
Hi Bill,
You asked what the ABC Court Directory of London contained.
It is a general, alphabetic list of London residents. It was
intended to be an annual publication but I have not come across any
other copies. It states, in the preface, that its purpose was to
provide a directory which would be affordable to many more people
than were able to afford the other (expensive) directories of that time.
With regard to your question about Thomas Strong; the birth
certificate of his son William should give the maiden name of his
mother and may give the home address. This will provide two routes
of research. (1) The marriage of Thomas to William's mother (2) The
census for 1881 at the provided address.
The census should provide you with the age of Thomas, and therefore
his approximate date of birth, and the marriage certificate should
provide the name (and profession?) of Thomas's father.
Of course, you may have already tried this and found that the
required information is missing or incomplete. In that case, you may
want to search school registers of the area. These often give useful
biographical details.
I hope that the above is useful.
--------------------------------------
Norman
norman.adams@dial.pipex.com
Middlesex, UK.
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From: bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: 1894 London Letter about STRONGs
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 02:39:30 -0330 (NST)
Hello everyone,
First I'd like to say how happy I am to be a member of your group. I live
in Newfoundland, Canada's newest province and look forward to reading many
interesting queries/articles about the STRONGs of the world.
I've been trying to trace my STRONG (William b. 1825) ancestors from
Newfoundland back to England, but so far have had no success in getting past
this side of the Atlantic. However, I do have a letter I'd like to share
with you, as it could possibly be of interest. It was written to my
great-grandfather James Moores Strong, (b. 1849 in Twillingate,
Newfoundland), from "Gun's Unclaimed Money & Estates Registry, Office of
Inquiry for Missing Friends Abroad", 6, Prince of Wales Road, London N.W.,
England, and dated 27th February, 1894.
-----------------------------
Dear Sir,
Yours of 22nd [?unclear?] with fee of five shillings to hand and contents noted.
Strong, William: An inquiry for his representatives appeared in one of the
Lists of Cases in my Office issued by me from time to time. I am not aware
that he ever was in Newfoundland, but he certainly was a New York merchant
and died there about a century ago. It is therefore quite clear that he is
not identical with your grandfather of the same name.
In return for the fee you enclose, I have searched my collection of 80,000
names of persons "advertised" in connection with unclaimed property and find
that the representatives of the following have been inquired for in the
newspapers:
Strong, John, of Islington
Strong, Thomas, Publican, Brompton [?]
Strong, Mary, of Millbank
Strong, Elizabeth, formerly Head [?] Kinsen [?]
Strong, Hugh of Wiltshire, 1829
A copy of any one of these advertisements I can obtain for a fee of one pound.
Yours truly,
Robert Gun
---------------------------
Sorry about the question marks but some of this is unclear; otherwise, the
handwriting is beautiful. I hope someone will find this useful.
Sincerely,
Barbara
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Barbara Peterson's Strong Ancestors
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 12:18:00 EST
On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 02:39:30 -0330 (NST)
Barbara Pederson
wrote to ALL subscribers to the STRONG Mail List:
>Hello everyone,
>First I'd like to say how happy I am to be a member of your group. I
>live in Newfoundland, Canada's newest province and look forward
>to reading many interesting queries/articles about the STRONGs of
>the world.
>I've been trying to trace my STRONG (William b. 1825) ancestors
>from Newfoundland back to England, but so far have had no success
>in getting past this side of the Atlantic. However, I do have a letter
I'd
>like to share with you, as it could possibly be of interest. It was
>written to my great-grandfather James Moores Strong, (b. 1849 in
>Twillingate, Newfoundland), from "Gun's Unclaimed Money & Estates
>Registry, Office of Inquiry for Missing Friends Abroad", 6, Prince of
>Wales Road, London N.W., England, and dated 27th February, 1894.
-----------------------------
>Dear Sir,
>Yours of 22nd [?unclear?] with fee of five shillings to hand and
>contents noted.
>Strong, William: An inquiry for his representatives appeared in one of
>the Lists of Cases in my Office issued by me from time to time. I am
>not aware that he ever was in Newfoundland, but he certainly was a
>New York merchant and died there about a century ago. It is therefore
>quite clear that he is not identical with your grandfather of the same
>name.
>In return for the fee you enclose, I have searched my collection of
>80,000 names of persons "advertised" in connection with unclaimed
>property and find that the representatives of the following have been
>inquired for in the newspapers:
> Strong, John, of Islington
> Strong, Thomas, Publican, Brompton [?]
> Strong, Mary, of Millbank
> Strong, Elizabeth, formerly Head [?] Kinsen [?]
> Strong, Hugh of Wiltshire, 1829
>
>A copy of any one of these advertisements I can obtain for a fee of
>one pound.
>Yours truly,
>Robert Gun
>
---------------------------
>Sorry about the question marks but some of this is unclear;
>otherwise, the handwriting is beautiful. I hope someone will find
>this useful.
>Sincerely,
>Barbara
***************************************************************************
Welcome to the STRONG Mail List, Barbara!
Thanks for sharing the letter, above.
As I understand your message, your earliest known ancestor was
William Strong, born about 1825, who resided in Newfoundland,
Canada. James Moores Strong, born 1849 in Newfoundland, was
the son of William Strong. Is this correct?
A contirubed genealogy database for a line of Strongs descended
from John Strong, tanner, church Elder, of Massachusetts and
Connecticut, indicates some descendants settled in Nova Scotia
by 1762. The descent of this line was as follows:
John Strong
Jedediah Strong, Sr.
Jedediah Strong, Jr.,
Stephen Strong, Sr.
Stephen Strong, Jr.
Stephen Strong, III, born Lebanon, Connecticut, USA
Abel Strong, born Cornwallis, Kings County, Nova Scotia, 1762
The data I have on hand does not continue into the 19th
century with sufficient detail to permit me to determine
if descendants may have spread into Newfoundland. The
Strong Family Association of America (SFAA) has
published a volume updating the descendants of
Jedediah Strong. Perhaps someone in our discussion
group wil be able to check that reference for you.
STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, Volume V, published by the
Strong Family Assocition of America (SFAA) in 1996
includes several Strong families in the Canadian
provinces of Quebec and New Brunswick, but James
Moores Strong is not found in the index to the book.
We look forward to your sharing more about your
Strong family.
Best wishes for success in finding your Strong Ancestors
in the "Mother Country".
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Apology to Barbara Pederson
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:03:21 EST
In a message I posted to the STRONG Mail
List earlier today I mis-spelled Barbara
Pederson's name as Barbara Peterson.
My apology to Barbara.
Bob Strong
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: List of Subscribers
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:03:21 EST
SUBJECT: Members of list 'STRONG' as of SAT, 28 DEC 1996
Current number of subscribers: 26
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
Descendants of Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England
Descendants of Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Descendants of Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
Descendants of Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
Descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Other Strongs of Northeastern U. S.; lineage not posted yet.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
Descendants of Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
Lysander STRONG. Born 1791 [CT?]. Died 1837 in Medina, OH.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
Probable descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
veeb@uk.pipeline.com (Lin Van Buren)
[Capt John Strong of CT & Rensselaer Co., NY]
JBleaux@aol.com (J. Breeze)
[__?__ Strong of Salisbury, CT]
Descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
70771.1421@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
ldooley@ims-1.com (Leanne Dooley)
[Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC,
& Lawremce Co., MS]
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
[__?__ Strong of Rockingham Co., NC]
Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
posted their lineage.
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
jrshome@msmary.edu
Dbsandmd@nhb.com
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Not receiving mail)
ebratt@attmail.com
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca
wstrong@netinc.ca
AkwiredTst@aol.com
Removed from List; Addressee unknown@domain.
All mail was returned as undeliverable.
woodlynl@zapcom.net
Subscription to STRONG Mail List canceled:
tstrahan@sound.net (Thomas Strahan) [PA > KY > IN]
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From: sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: COMPUTER CRASH
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:48:05 EST
Hard drive crash. LOST JUNO.COM temporarily. Current E-Mail address
pgss23a@prodigy.com until I get myself out of this mess.
Sandy in Lubbock Texas
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From: Strong William [strong@seranis.com.au]
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs of London
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:11:55 +1100 (EST)
Recently when I was in England, I noticed a plaque mounted on the wall
in the crypt of St Pauls Cathedral, in London. Can anyone claim these
two men among their ancestors ?
_____________________________________________________________________
Plaque inscription in the crypt of St Pauls
" REMEMBER THE MEN WHO
MADE SHAPELY THE STONES
OF SAINT PAULS CATHEDREL
1675 ~ 1708
EDWARD STRONG - THOMAS STRONG
AND ALL WHO LABOURED WITH THEM
THIS TABLET WAS ERECTED BY
THE WORSHIPFUL COMPANY OF MASONS"
_____________________________________________________________________
new year greetings from Bill Strong
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From: ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:40:45 -0500
I am researching the STRONG line originating in PA and
believed to have come from ENG. I have an extensive list
of individuals and families.
STRONG:PA>OH;1727-Present STRANG:ENG>PA;1700's
Emmett ebratt@attmail.com
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From: Dbsandmd@nhb.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong Surname
Date: 31 Dec 1996 10:27:06 EDT
My interest in the Strong surname includes all Strongs, Stronges,
Strangs, Stranges, LeEstranges, of the United Kingdoms... England,
Scotland, and Ireland... Generally pre-1850; and any emigrant lineages
to Canada, the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, or elsewhere. I am
particularly interested in finding and tracing links between specific
Strong family groups in the old world and those in the new world.
Somewhere out there may be a clue linking my Anglo-Irish George Strong,
(b.Ireland ~1825, d.Ontario 1893) ancestor to the rest (!)
Dave Strong
Port Hope, Ontario, Canada
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From: Dbsandmd@nhb.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong Surname
Date: 31 Dec 1996 10:33:26 EDT
My interest in the Strong surname includes all Strongs, Stronges,
Strangs, Stranges, LeEstranges, of the United Kingdoms... England,
Scotland, and Ireland... Generally pre-1850; and any emigrant lineages
to Canada, the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, or elsewhere. I am
particularly interested in finding and tracing links between specific
Strong family groups in the old world and those in the new world.
Somewhere out there may be a clue linking my Anglo-Irish George Strong,
(b.Ireland ~1825, d.Ontario 1893) ancestor to the rest (!)
Dave Strong
Port Hope, Ontario, Canada
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From: LKZZ29A@prodigy.com ( KAY ROCKETT)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG/SHARP Query
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:20:54, -0500
Although I'm in search of Celia SHARP, I was told there was a Samuel
STRONG who married a Mary SHARP, and they lived in Lawrence Co, MS.
In the same county was Celia with husband Rudolphus DODD, James SHARP
and wife Deborah, and Margaret SHARP and husband Alexander Strong
MARTIN. I believe Mary Sharp STRONG, wife of Samuel, was sister to
Celia. If you have any SHARP or MARTIN info, PLEASE contact me at
LKZZ29A@Prodigy.com in case I am no longer on this list.
Seeking parents, brothers, and sisters of Rudolphus DODD b 1804 NC d
1856 MS m 24 Apr 1834 Rockingham Co, NC, Celia SHARP b 1811 NC d aft
1880. Their children were William S. 1835 NC, Mary E. 1838 NC, Nancy
E. 1839 NC, Harriet F. (Mariah) 1842 NC, John B. 1844 MS, Celia Ann
1846 MS, Margaret Cornelia 1850 MS, and Rudolphus Edward 1852 MS.
Thanks,
Kay in MS
ALSO RESEARCHING:
Abernathy-VA/NC/AL
Aylor-SC/GA
Bailey-AL/MS
Barber-NC/SC/GA/AL
Brewer-GA
Caren-SC
Cooper-SC/AL
Cox-VA
Crockett-VA
Darling-SC
Dodd-NC/MS
Downey-SC/AL/TN
Fleming-PA/NC
Goodgame-GA/AL
Guice-PA/TN/MS
Hall-AL/MS
Hammonds-GA/AL
House-AL/MS
Jones-GA
Kicker-NC/GA/AL
Knight-GA
Kugler/Koogler-SC
McClure-PA/NC/AL
Moncrief-VA/SC/GA/AL
Morris-SC/GA/AL
Nobles-MS
Olds-SC/AL
Parmer-NC
Rasberry-GA/AL
Rockett-NC/AL/MS
Rossbacker-
Sharp-NC/MS
Shaw-MS
Siddon-PA/TN/MS
Tillman-Eng/VA/NC
Vassall-MA
Ware-VA
Wesley-GA
Whaley-NC
Young-PA/NC/GA/AL
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Marjorie (Campbel) Gray's STRONG Ancestors
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 21:25:30 EST
Forwarded to the STRONG Mail List, 2 JAN 1997
=============================================
Ancestor Chart
Submitted by Marjorie ("Marge") Campbell Gray
< mgray@jax-inter.net > , May, 1996.
[Reformatted by Bob Strong to shorten lines.]
Marjorie Campbell b/19 Aug 1936
m/2 Edward Henry Gray, Jr (deceased)
Marjorie Barrett b/14 Sept 1911
m/James Campbell
Mellie Pearce b/30 Oct 1883, PA
m/2 William Barrett
George Pearce b/4 Jul 1858,PA
m/ Florence Vosburgh
Minerva Vashi Alvord b/22 m/1831 PA
m/ John Pearce
Zenas Alvord b/28 Dec 1789 CT,
m/ Deborah Hart
Seth Alvord b/18 Jul 1754 CT
m/ Ruth Norcott
Seth Alvord b/13 Nov 1714 MA
m/ Elizabeth Spencer
Mary Strong b/29 Dec 1690 MA
m/ Thomas Alvord
Thomas Strong Jr b/16 Nov 1661 MA
m/ Mary Stebbins
Thomas Strong b/1633 MA
m/ Mary Hewitt
John ["Elder"] Strong b/1605 Eng
m/ Abigail Ford
Richard Strong b/1585 Eng
m/ Eleanor Deanne
George Strong b/1556 Eng
m/ ?
John Strong(Strang) b/1515 Eng
m/ ?
Robert Strong(Strang) b/1490 Eng
m/ ?
===========================================
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Mike Strong's Ancestry: William Strong, 1800, IRE > 1881, ONT, CA
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 21:25:30 EST
======================================
From: Mike Strong [strong@sta.dfo.ca>
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:43:44 -0400
Forwarded to : STRONG Mial List, 2 JAN 1997
Hi Robert,
My Canadian ancestry begins when William
Strong (1800-1881) from Sligo in Ireland landed
in Quebec city in 1830, and took up residence in
a village called Gore north of Montreal. His son
Matthew James Strong (1841-1917) remained in
the Mille Iles area, and my grandfather Horace F.
Strong was born to him in 1896. Also born to
Matthew were Garnett, Randolph and Edith (which
had a son called Norman that went to Calgary).
Horace became a renowned mining engineer
(Mc Gill 1917), exploring mineral deposits all over
Canada and Mexico, notable involvement with Silver
City in northern Ontario (published in his memoirs).
He later branched into the lumbering business,
and started the Haileybury Lumber Company. My
father Norval(1920-1993) was born to him in
Haileybury, Ontario, and later moved to Swastika
(near Kirkland Lake) where he managed the local
HLC sawmill, and where I was born in 1953.
My grandfather went back to Ireland in the
50's to check out his relatives 4 generations
removed, and found many at the local pub !
(described in memoirs). Just a quick sketch
for your information.
Mike
=======================================
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Alexander Strong Martin (alias Alexander Martin Strong)
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 21:25:30 EST
On Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:20:54, -0500 KAY ROCKETT
wrote:
>Although I'm in search of Celia SHARP, I was told there was a Samuel
>STRONG who married a Mary SHARP, and they lived in Lawrence Co, MS.
>In the same county was Celia with husband Rudolphus DODD, James SHARP
>and wife Deborah, and Margaret SHARP and husband Alexander Strong
>MARTIN. I believe Mary Sharp STRONG, wife of Samuel, was sister to
>Celia. If you have any SHARP or MARTIN info, PLEASE contact me at
>LKZZ29A@Prodigy.com in case I am no longer on this list.
>Seeking parents, brothers, and sisters of Rudolphus DODD b 1804 NC d
>1856 MS m 24 Apr 1834 Rockingham Co, NC, Celia SHARP b 1811 NC d aft
>1880. Their children were William S. 1835 NC, Mary E. 1838 NC, Nancy
>E. 1839 NC, Harriet F. (Mariah) 1842 NC, John B. 1844 MS, Celia Ann
>1846 MS, Margaret Cornelia 1850 MS, and Rudolphus Edward 1852 MS.
>Thanks,
>Kay in MS
==========================================================
First, you should get in contact with Francie Lane, if Francie does
not respond to your query. Francie is researching Alexander Strong
Martin and has some Sharp connections.
Francie Lane
The following is paraphrased from STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES,
Volume VI, compiled by the Strong Family Association of America
(SFFA), and copyrighted 1996. From pages 288 and 289.
Thomas Strong, son of William Strong, Sr. of Hanover and
Pittsylvania Counties, VA, was born 16 DEC 1739. He married
Elizabeth __?__. After Thomas Strong died, Elizabeth "had a
child named Alexander Strong Martin (A.K.A. Alexander Martin
Strong) who was the son of Alexander Martin, Governor of
North Carolina.
Children of Thomas and Elizabeth Strong:
William Strong, b. ca. 1768, probably Pittsylvania Co., VA
Samuel Strong, b. ca. or before 1776, prob. Pittsylvania Co., VA
Thomas Strong, Jr., b. bet. 1773-1778, Rockingham Co., NC
James Strong, b. bet 1766-1770
John Strong, b. before 1774
So, if this family history is correct and the family group sheet
above is correct, then the above five were half=brothers of
Alexander Strong Martin.
How does the age of the Samuel Strong in Lawrence Co.,
MS, compare with the above Samuel Strong? WHEN was he
in Lawrence Co., MS, and how old was he at the time? Your
notes appear to be about a later generation of Strongs.
In the same book, pages 437-443, is an account of Samuel
Strong of Russell Co., VA, Scott Co., VA, and Monroe Co., KY,
and it is alleged that he was the son of Thomas Strong, Sr.,
above. In this account, it is stated that Samuel Strong was
born before 1776 in either Pittsylvania Co., VA, or
Rockingham Co., NC. The family in this section of the book
actually begins with Joseph Strong, born about 1798,
possibly in Scott Co, VA, who was "probably" a son of
Samuel Strong. The linkage appears to be speculative and
no documentation of Samuel Strong being in Monroe County,
KY, or of Joseph Strong being in Scott Co., VA, is provided.
You might want to review the theory behind the connection
of these two that appeared in James Robert Rolff's book,
STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA AND OTHER
SOUTHERN STATES.
I found nothing about your Dodd and Sharp families in
either of these two books.
I was born and reared in Shreveport, LA, and recall as a
youngster hearing my parents talk about "Dr. Dodd",
who was a Southen Baptist Minister, and pastor of the
First Baptist Church in Shreveport for many years. That
was about1940s. There was a small Baptist college in
Shreveport then that was named Dodd College, apparently
after Dr. Dodd.
Good luck in your search,
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way, Lori's Landing S/D
Monrovia Community
Madison [County], Alabama 35758-7113
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From: Dbsandmd@nhb.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Elder John Strong Ancestor chart
Date: 3 Jan 1997 08:44:12 EDT
Hi Bob and Marge... and everyone else who is interested.
The Elder John chart posted on 2 Jan 97 is interesting... particularly
to those descended from Elder John. However, the part that is really
interesting to the rest of us, who are NOT descended from Elder John, is
the portion from Richard Strong back to Robert Strong.
What documentation is there for those four generations? In what places
did the births and marriages take place? Are any siblings known? If
so, dates and places of birth? Is there any background info concerning
livelihoods, lifestyles, etc.? In other words, Is there any info that
could be useful in tracing other Strong genealogies to those four
generations?
Thanks, Dave Strong
to: IN:STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
cc: IN:mgray@jax-inter.net
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong, church elder, and his ancestors
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 20:49:25 EST
The following is a printout of John Strong, church elder,
and his ancestors, from a genealogical database compiled
by Robert A. ("Bob") Thomas, who operates the Tracks
from the Past genealogy Bulletin Board in Anniston, AL.
Bob Thomas descends from the Fords who intermarried with
the Strongs in New England. His Internet address is
< bathomas@juno.com >.
I will compile a descendancy chart for four generations
of descendants of Robert Strong, b. 1490, and will post
it in the future either as a single or multiple part
modified register report. The descendancy chart will
show collateral lines, if any are entered into the
database.
This is not my own database and therefore I cannot
vouch for the accuracy of the data. For example, there
is a controversy in the literature regarding whether John,
the church Elder, arrived on the ship "Mary & John" in 1630
or whether he arrived in 1635. Since I have not personally
researched this, I remain neutral.
Note, too, some differences between this ancestry and
the one posted by Marjorie ("Marge") Gray. Again, I do
not endorse one over the other, as I am a neutral bystander.
The 1612 will, below, connects three generations:
George > John > John.
Bob Strong, rtstrongjr@juno.com
***********************************************************
FIRST GENERATION
1. JOHN STRONG II was born before 1610 in Chard,
Somersetshire, England [SEE NOTE 1]. He was christened
before 1610 in Somersetshire, England. He died on 4 APR
1699 in Northampton, Hampshire, MA [SEE NOTE 2].
Additional information submitted by Carol Treptow - John was
a freeman 9 MAR 1636/7. Removed to Taunton and was
Constable on 4 Dec 1638. Removed to Windson CT. Removed
to Northampton about 1659; Elder of that Chruch.
>From Howard Ford - Sailed from Plymouth, England and arrived
30 May 1630 at Nantasket aboard the ship "Mary and John".
SECOND GENERATION
2. JOHN STRONG was born after 1584 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 14 JUN 1613 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. John's will was proved 22 Sep 1612 and his estate
value was 63 pounds 2 shillings.
Will of John Strong - Bishops Court Wills 1612-1629:
John Stronge, Chard. Whereas the said John Stronge leth sick
of body but of good and perfect memory. (no date to this
will). To the poof or Chard land 4s sic. To the curch 2s. To
my son John Stronge 10 pounds ["Elder" John Strong] To my
child that my wife goeth with all 10 pounds [Eleanor Strong]
If either of them die it shall remain to the other, until
they be of lawful year. To my brother Thomas Strong's
daughter my goddaughter 2s. I give to the other two 1s
each. I make my wife whole executor of such goods as I have.
I make my overseers my father George Stronge, John Bowridge,
Walter Strong, John Warry. Witness: Henry Warry. Proved
September 22, 1612
!!NOTE: John Strong's wife has never been identified, but
she was not a Deane. Could she have been a Warry? He was
married to ELEANOR DEANE in 1609 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England.
3. ELEANOR DEANE was born in 1589 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. She died in 1654.
THIRD GENERATION
4. GEORGE STRONG was born in 1560 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 13 FEB 1635 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England [SEE NOTE 3]. In his will he names some of his
grand children and children. A house called the "Stronge
House" has recently been found in Chardstock, which is
believed to have been built by George Strong.
SOURCE: "Search for the passengers of the Mary &
John 1630" , Vol 17, West Country Ancestries, 1620-1643,
Part 1.
6. *UNK DEANE was born in 1550 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England.
FOURTH GENERATION
8. JOHN STRONG was born in 1515 in Taunton, Somersetshire,
England.
FIFTH GENERATION
16. ROBERT STRONG was born in 1490 in Berminister,
Dorsetshire, England.
---------------------------------------------
SOURCES:
1. NEW ENG HIST AND GEN REG VOL 5 P.361, VOL 8 P.181, VOL 8
P.743.; CONN W9STILE'S ANCIENT WINDSOR VOL 2 P.743. B5A26,
P.7-21 11-23. B4DR VOL 1 P.14-19.
2. NEW ENG HIST AND GEN REG VOL 5 P.361, VOL 8 P.181, VOL 8
P.743.; CONN W9STILE'S ANCIENT WINDSOR VOL 2 P.743. B5A26,
P.7-21 11-23. B4DR VOL 1 P.14-19.
3. Will dated 20 Nov 1627 proved 13 Feb 1635 (PCC 15 Pile).
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: William Strong, Sr., of Hanover Co., VA
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 23:17:03 EST
Hanover County, VA, is one of those counties
whose civil records were destroyed, in this
case during the Civil War. The REGISTERS
of both parishes of the Church of England in
Hanover County were also lost or destroyed.
Consequently there are very few records of
the Strongs who resided in Hanover County
before the Civil War.
In 1992 I visited the Wilson Library at the
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and
studied "Colonel John Chiswell's Merchandise
Day Book", which includes the account of
John Strong, Jr., of St. Martin's Parish, [western]
Hanover County, during the early 1750s. This
includes the first known record of my presumptive
ancestor, Martin Strong. While at the Wilson
Library I ordered a microfilm copy of this record.
When it arrived by mail later, I filed it away,
as I had already reviewed the record and made
notes.
Today for the first time I took the microfilm to
the local library and reviewed it. To my surprise,
it includes other portions of the Frederick's Hall
Plantation Books. One record was entitled
"Group A, Volume 1, Ledger No. A for AMC Cargoe,
1735-1737, Josiah Smith __?__ Book and John
Nisbel Ledger." Purchases by Mr. William Strong
were recorded on 16 MAY 1736. As I understand
this record, it was an accounting of the sales of
the cargo of a merchant ship.
This was obviously William Strong, Sr., born 5 JAN
1701, son of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County, VA.
William Strong, Jr., son of William, was only two
months old at the time of this transaction. William
Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Jr., was only a few
years old.
There were also purchases during this time period
by William Strong at the "lower" store operated
by Thomas Partridge. Lower would mean downstream,
which would be the store in the eastern part of the
county, known as St. Paul's Parish. Partridge also
operated an "upper" store which was likely in St.
Martin's Parish, which included western Hanover
County and eastern Louisa County. The "upper"
store records are for a later period, about 1750s.
My presumtive ancestor, Martin Strong, traded at the
"upper" store after his 1753/1754 marriage to Anne
Stanley.
REFERENCE:
Richard Slatten and James Bagby, transcribers,
"Accouns from the Store of Thomas Partridge & Co.,
Hanover County, Virginia, 1734-1756." In MAGAZINE
OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY
Vol. 23, No. 2, MAY 1985, pages 14-20.
Vol. 23, No. 3, AUG 1985, pages 26-40.
Vol. 24, No. 1, FEB 1986, pages 34-88.
There were transactions by William Strong on the
following dates: 9 DEC 1736; 13 FEB 1737/8;
13 MAY 1737; 13 JUN 1737; 25 JUN 1737;
4 SEP 1737 (paid Quitrent); 12 OCT 1737;
25 OCT 1737; 21 JUN 1738; 4 SEP 1738;
12 OCT 1738; 25 OCT 1738; 18 NOV 1738;
and 24 JUL 1739.
With the exception of the family register
maintained by William Strong, Sr., these are his
earlist known records, following the record of
his christening in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent
County, VA, when he was an infant.
********************************************************
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way, Lori's Landing S/D
Monrovia Community
Madison [County], Alabama 35758-7113
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: List of Subscribers
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 23:17:03 EST
SUBJECT: Members of list 'STRONG' as of FRI, 3 JAN 1997
Current number of subscribers: 32
**********************************************************************
NOTE: On 2 JAN 97 the STRONG Mail List was one month
old, having become operational on 2 DEC 96. The List has
grown at an average rate of one new subscriber per day.
Six new subscibers has joined our discussion group in the
past six days. They are welcomed and are encouraged to
post their Strong family connections as soon as practical.
We have quickly become an international group with
subscribers from four nations: England, Australia, Canada,
and the United States.
Please advise me of any needed corrections in the
subscriber list, below. Do you find this list helpful? How
could it be more helpful? Would a migration route for each
subcriber be more helpful? Your comments are invited.
Wishing you all many new family connections in 1997!
Bob Strong, List Manager
< rtstrongjr@juno.com >
********************************************************************
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.; lineage not posted yet.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH.
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
STRONG: PA>OH;1727-Present
STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's
Probable descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
veeb@uk.pipeline.com (Lin Van Buren)
[Capt John Strong of CT & Rensselaer Co., NY]
JBleaux@aol.com (J. Breeze)
[__?__ Strong of Salisbury, CT]
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
70771.1421@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
ldooley@ims-1.com (Leanne Dooley)
[Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC,
& Lawremce Co., MS]
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
[__?__ Strong of Rockingham Co., NC]
Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
posted their lineage.
jrshome@msmary.edu
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca
dparker@ma.ultranet.com
hereford@cdc.net
mcculler@mindspring.com
weir@u.washington.edu
LKZZ29A@prodigy.com
ATHACKNEY@aol.com
Removed from List; Addressee unknown@domain.
All mail was returned as undeliverable.
woodlynl@zapcom.net
Subscription to STRONG Mail List canceled:
tstrahan@sound.net (Thomas Strahan) [PA > KY > IN]
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Descendants of Robert Strong, b. 1490, England
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 21:40:13 EST
Descendancy Chart for Robert Strong, b. 1490. SOURCE:
Ford Family Genealogical Database compiled by Robert A.
("Bob") Thomas, Anniston, AL. Internet address:
< bathomas@juno.com >.
Printed to text file and reformated by Bob Strong,
< rtstrongjr@juno.com >. See notes and caveats in
previous message regarding the ancestors of John Strong,
the church elder.
***************************************************************************
FIRST GENERATION
1. ROBERT STRONG was born in 1490 in Berminister, Dorsetshire,
England.
Children of ROBERT STRONG were:
+2 i. JOHN STRONG.
3 ii. RICHARD STRONG was born in 1525 in Chardstock,
Somerset, England. He died in 1613 in Taunton [?],
Somersetshire, England.
SECOND GENERATION
2. JOHN STRONG was born in 1515 in Taunton [?], Somersetshire,
England.
Children of JOHN STRONG were:
+4 i. GEORGE STRONG.
THIRD GENERATION
4. GEORGE STRONG was born in 1560 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 13 FEB 1635 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. [See Footnote1] In his will he names some of his grand-
children and children. A house called the "Stronge House" has
recently been bound in Chardstock, which is believed to have
been built by George Strong.
SOURCE: Search for the passengers of the Mary & John, 1630,
Vol. 17, West Country Ancestries, 1620-1643, Part 1.
Children of GEORGE STRONG were:
+5 i. WALTER STRONG.
6 ii. WILLIAM STRONG was born in 1583 in Chardstock,
Somerset, England. He died on 7 SEP 1613.
+7 iii. THOMAS STRONG.
+8 iv. JOHN STRONG.
FOURTH GENERATION
5. WALTER STRONG was born in 1579 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 9 APR 1667 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England.
He was married to ANN BOND in FEB 1621 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. ANN BOND died in SEP 1674. She was buried on 11 SEP
1674 in Chardstock, Somerset, England. Children of WALTER STRONG
and ANN BOND were:
9 i. MARY STRONG.
10 ii. ELIZABETH STRONG.
11 iii. JOANE STRONG.
+12 iv. GEORGE STRONG.
7. THOMAS STRONG was born in 1584 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 12 MAY 1663 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England.
He was married to JOANNA BAGGE on 12 MAY 1604. JOANNA BAGGE
was buried on 26 AUG 1657 in Chardstock, Somerset, England.
[See Footnote 2 ]
Children of THOMAS STRONG and JOANNA BAGGE were:
13 i. MARGARET STRONG was christened on 29 JUN 1604 in
Chardstock, Somerset, England.
14 ii. ELIZABETH STRONG was christened on 3 DEC 1606 in
Chardstock, Somerset, England.
15 iii. LAVINA STRONG was christened in Chardstock,
Somerset, England.
16 iv. DAUGHTER STRONG was buried on 20 JUN 1609 in
Chardstock, Somerset, England. Probably one of
the three daughters (Margaret, Elizabeth or
Lavina)
+17 v. JANE STRONG.
18 vi. SARAH STRONG was christened on 29 JUN 1613.
+19 vii. JAMES STRONG.
+20 viii. WILLIAM STRONG.
8. JOHN STRONG was born after 1584 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 14 JUN 1613 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. John's will was proved 22 Sep 1612 and his estate
value was 63 pounds 2 shillings.
Will of John Strong - Bishops Court Wills 1612-1629:
John Stronge, Chard. Whereas the said John Stronge leth sick of
body but of good and perfect memory. (no date to this will). To
the poof or Chard land 4s sic. To the curch 2s. To my son John
Stronge 10 pounds (Elder John Strong) To my child that my wife
goeth with all 10 pounds (Eleanor Strong) If either of them die
it shall remain to the other, until they be of lawful year. To my
brother Thomas Storng's daughter my goddaughter 2s. I give to
the other two 1s each. I make my wife whole executor of such
goods as I have. I make my overseers my father George Stronge,
John Bowridge, Walter Strong, John Warry. Witness: Henry Warry.
Proved September 22, 1612
!!NOTE: John Strong's wife has never been identified, but she was
not a Deane. Could she have been a Warry?
He was married to ELEANOR DEANE in 1609 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. ELEANOR DEANE was born in 1589 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. She died in 1654. Children of JOHN STRONG and ELEANOR
DEANE were:
+21 i. JOHN STRONG II.
+22 ii. ELEANOR STRONG.
------------------------------------
SOURCES:
1. Will dated 20 Nov 1627 proved 13 Feb 1635 (PCC 15 Pile).
2. In Search for the passengers of the Mary & John 1630, Vol 17
Part 1, The Mary & John Clearing House, Burton W. Spear, 5602
305th St., Toledo, OH 43611.
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From: Marge Gray
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Elder John Strong Ancestor chart
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 10:16:33 -0800
Marge Gray wrote:
>
I have Richard b/1585 Chard, Somerset, ENG m/1609, d/June 1613
> Taunton, Somerset, Eng
> George b/1556 Somerset Eng
> John b/1515 Taunton Somerset, Eng
> robert b/1490 Berminister Dorset Eng
> I only have a sister for John (Elder) Strong who was Eleanor b/1612 MA
> m/Walter Dean
> Most of this is from the Strong Family Assoc
> Sally Henry 156 Maple Dr, trafford, PA 15085 or
> Lyle Strong Assoc Hist. 5277 Vineyard Lane, Flushing, MI 48433-2437
> Hope this answers questions you had. Marge
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From: ATHACKNEY@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Charles: Cape May/Cumberland Co, NJ; 1778-1844
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:46:13 -0500
Am looking to correspond and share information with anyone working with
STRONGs from Cape May or Cumberland Counties in New Jersey. Also, I'm
specifically following Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey, m. 1815 in Cape May Co., New Jersey Sarah SHARP,
b. 1792 d. 1870 in Downe Township, Cumberland Co., New Jersey, dau. Ephram
SHARP.
Allan T. Hackney
164 Richmond Hill Rd.
New Canaan, CT 06840
athackney@aol.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: FOR NEW SUBSCRIBERS: Retrieving Archived Messages
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 12:13:53 EST
This message is reposted for the benefit of
new subscribers.
*****************************************************************
TEMPORARILY HALTING YOUR MAIL:
If you plan to be away from home or your computer
for more than two or three days, you are advised to have
your mail to the STRONG Mail List temporarily halted.
To do this, send a message to the MAISER address
< MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >
with the following commands in the body of the
message, beginning on line one, far left margin.
SET STRONG NOMAIL
EXIT
Upon your return home or to your computer, send
the following command to the MAISER address to
start your mail again.
SET STRONG MAIL
EXIT
The "NoMail" command actually stops all mail from
being delivered to you. It is not equivalent to having
the Post Office "hold" your mail until you return.
So, how do you get copies of messages posted to
the STRONG Mail List for the period of time you
had the Mail List set to "NoMail"?
***********************************************************
RETRIEVING ARCHIVED MAIL:
ALL messages sent to the STRONG Mail List are
archived on a daily basis at the MAISER listserver site.
Each MAISER List is assigned a code. The code for
the STRONG list is: .std
[Why ".std"? The code ".str" was already taken. It is
just an arbitrary three letter code.]
Archives messages can be retrieved in a one step
or two steps process, depending upon whether you
know the dates you wish to retrieve.
Step 1 - If you don't know the date or dates you
wish to retrieve.
Send an e-mail to: maiser@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
On the first line of body of the message, enter:
send std.dir
exit
This will return a list of all archived STRONG Family Mail List
files by the date on which they were archived. This list looks like
the following:
Archive files found for STRONG
12/27/96
96-12-18.STD ** 96-12-19.STD ** 96-12-20.STD ** 96-12-21.STD
96-12-22.STD ** 96-12-23.STD ** 96-12-24.STD ** 96-12-25.STD
96-12-26.STD ** 96-12-27.STD **
The STRONG Mail List officially began on 96-12-02 (December 2,
1996) so no messages will be archived prior to that date.
Step 2 - You know the dates you wish to retrieve.
Determine the date for which you would like to receive the archived
files and send an e-mail to:
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
On the first line of text, enter: "send YY-MM-DD.std".
For example, if you wish to retreive the messages posted to the
STRONG Mail List for the 18th of December, 1996, you would
type the following commands beginning on the first line of your
message addressed to MAISER.
send 96-12-18.std
exit
Substitute for "96-12-18.std" whatever date you desire. You may
enter as many dates as desired, but each must be on a separate line
without a blank line in between. For example:
send 96-12-18.std
send 96-12-19.std
send 96-12-26.std
exit
A signature line is not needed, but if you add a signature line
be sure to leave a blank line between the "exit line" and your
signature line. The MAISER computer will ignore anything
after the "exit" command, or anything after a blank line, or
anything after an incorrect command. The "exit" command is
not required but is advised when sending commands to the
MAISER computer.
[The MAISER computer does not seem to be case sensitive.
Your commands can be either upper case or lower case.
or a mixture of upper and lower case.]
NEW SUBSCRIBERS can use the above described
procedure to obtain messages that were posted prior to
their subscription, if they wish to do so.
******************************************************************
TEMPORARILY HALTING MAIL FOR OTHER
MAISER MAIL LISTS:
If you are on several Mail Lists and do not know the codes
for each of the lists, how do you determine the codes?
Send a message to the MAISER address with the following
commands.
send filelist.1
send filelist.2
send filelist.3
send filelist
exit
You will receive three messages giiving you the code for
each and every MAISER Mail List plus a fourth message
with instructions.
When you send commands to MAISER, you will normally
receive your reply within less than 24 hours.
*****************END OF MESSAGE ************************
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs of County Sligo, Ireland, circa 1800
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:01:07 EST
While browsing through STRONG FAMILY
HISTORIES, Volume V, compiled by the
Strong Family Association of America,
(c) 1996, I noted a section entitled "William,
John, and Thomas Strong of Ardvally,
County Sligo, Ireland" on pages 622-626.
Although I could not make a connection
with your Strongs in Quebec, I would
suspect these are your relatives. I
recommend you write to the contributor
of this article: Mr. Philip B. Strong,
9 Carnbrae Avenue, Newton Park,
Saintfield Road, Belfast BT8 4NH,
Northern Ireland. He has obviously
researched the Strongs of County Sligo.
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
Manager, STRONG Mail List
======================================
>From: Mike Strong [strong@sta.dfo.ca>
>To: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:43:44 -0400
>
>Forwarded to : STRONG Mial List, 2 JAN 1997
>Hi Robert,
> My Canadian ancestry begins when William
>Strong (1800-1881) from Sligo in Ireland landed
>in Quebec city in 1830, and took up residence in
>a village called Gore north of Montreal. His son
>Matthew James Strong (1841-1917) remained in
>the Mille Iles area, and my grandfather Horace F.
>Strong was born to him in 1896. Also born to
>Matthew were Garnett, Randolph and Edith (which
>had a son called Norman that went to Calgary).
>Horace became a renowned mining engineer
>(Mc Gill 1917), exploring mineral deposits all over
>Canada and Mexico, notable involvement with Silver
>City in northern Ontario (published in his memoirs).
>He later branched into the lumbering business,
>and started the Haileybury Lumber Company. My
> father Norval(1920-1993) was born to him in
>Haileybury, Ontario, and later moved to Swastika
>(near Kirkland Lake) where he managed the local
>HLC sawmill, and where I was born in 1953.
> My grandfather went back to Ireland in the
>50's to check out his relatives 4 generations
>removed, and found many at the local pub !
>(described in memoirs). Just a quick sketch
>for your information.
>Mike
=======================================
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: John Strong, church elder, and his ancestors
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 03:50:21 -0500
In a message dated 97-01-04 02:22:57 EST, rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T.
Strong) writes:
<< SECOND GENERATION
2. JOHN STRONG was born after 1584 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. He died on 14 JUN 1613 in Chardstock, Somerset,
England. John's will was proved 22 Sep 1612 and his estate
value was 63 pounds 2 shillings.
Will of John Strong - Bishops Court Wills 1612-1629: >>
Hi -- Just wondering. . . don't wills get proved AFTER the death?
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG Immigrants to Virginia, 17th Century
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 05:22:45 EST
The following is a recapitualtion of part of a
message I posted several weeks ago:
******************************************************
BIBLIOGRAPHICAL SOURCE:
THE ORIGINAL LISTS of Persons of Quality:
Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels;
Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices;
Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and Others
Who Went From Great Britain to the AMERICAN
THE ORIGINAL LISTS of Persons of Quality:
Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels;
Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices;
Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and Others
Who Went From Great Britain to the AMERICAN
PLANTATIONS, 1600-1700, With Their Ages, The
Localities Where They Formerly Lived in the
Mother Country, the Names of the Ships in
Which They Embarked, and Other Interesting
Particulars.
>From MSS. Preserved in the State Paper
Department of Her Majesty's Public Record
Office, England.
Edited by JOHN CAMDEN HOTTEN.
Baltimore [Maryland]: Genealogical Publishing
Co., Inc., 1978
*********************************************************
[Many early settlers in Virginia were killed by
Indians--and probably vice versa. The following
census was taken after a massacre by Indians.]
"A LIST OF NAMES; OF THE LIVING IN
VIRGINIA, February the 16, 1623"
[The year would now be 1624 because of
a change in the calendar. New Years was
then on 1 April.]
"At Flourdieu Hundred": [Pages 172-173]
"William Straunge"
Footnote on Page 173: "I believe this is correct;
but the third letter is blotted in the original; and
there is, besides, a dot near the end of the word,
which makes it possible to read it as STRAMIGE."
[Dr.] John Woodson and Sarah Woodson also
appeared on this same list. This Woodson family
is subsequently found residing in Henrico Co.,
VA.
-------------------------------------------------------------
"James Citty
The MUSTER of the Inhabitants of James Cittie
[James City County] taken the 24th of January
1624" [The year would now be 1625 because of a
change in the calendar. Prior to the change in the
calendar, the New Year began on 1 APRIL.]
"The MUSTER of Sir George Yearley, Knignt, etc."
[Sir George Yeardley]
"William Strange 18 in the GEORGE 1619"
[This is probably the same person as in the
previous entry, above: "William Straunge".]
**************************************************************
BIBLIOGRAPHICAL SOURCE:
CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS: Abstracts of Virginia
Land Patents and Grants. Abstracted and indexed
by Nell Marion Nugent, Virginia Land Office,
Richmond, Virginia. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical
Publishing Company, Inc.
Volume I, 1623-1666, (c) 1963
Volume II, 1666-1695
Volume III, 1695-1732, (c) 1979
Volume IV, 1732-
The following are gleamings from Virginia Land
Patents, as abstracted by Nugent, above, concerning
William Strong(e).
Patent Book I, Part II, page 609, dated 12 FEB 1638
[1639], as abstracted in CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS
(C & P), Volune I, page 100. William Barker, Mariner,
and his Associates & Co., were granted 1850 acres in
Charles City County, VA, in two tracts. 600 acres,
formerly called Powlebrook and now called Merchants
Hope, "beginnning at a Creek that parts it from
Slaters Hill, extending to the water side neare under
the howse of one Richard Williams". Another 1250
acres for the transportation of 25 persons, including
"William Straing."
Patent Book 4, page 5, dated 24 JAN 1655 [1666], as
abstracted in C & P, I: 322 [Volume 1, Page 322].
David Phillips deeded 600 acres in James City
County, VA, located on the north side of Chicohominy
River, and northeast side of Moses Creek, bounded
on northwest by John Williams, and on the southeast
by William Fry. "Due by purchase from William Stronge."
Patent Book 4, page 6, dated 6 FEB 1655 [1666], as
abstracted in C & P, I: 323. William Fry deeded 253
acres in James City County on northeast side of
James River, "near William Havats land", purchased
from William Cradock and Thomas Drinker, assignee
of Richard Hoe, the original patentee.
Patent Book 4, page 6, dated 24 JAN 1655 [1666], as
abstracted In C & P, I: 323. John Williams deeded
600 acres in James City County on north side of
James River, western side of Chickohominy River,
northeast side of Moses Creek, nowthwest side of
Richard Williams, and southeast side of David
Phillips. "By purchase from William Stronge."
[Note that Richard Williams in mentioned here
and also in the 1638 headright grant to William
Barker and associates, above.]
Patent Book 4, page 18, dated 8 APR 1656, as
abstracted in C & P, I: 327. Phillip Charles deeded
140 acres on the most southern branch of Warrany
Creek, on the east side of Chicohominy River,
bounded by a corner tree of Mr. William Strong, to
marked tree of Mr. Soanes. For transportation of
three persons.
Patent Book 4, page 257, dated 17 MAR 1658,
as abstracted in C & P, I: 387. Phillip Charles
patented 1550 acres on the Chicckahominy River
beginning next to land of William Taylor...140
acres located on most southern branch of
Warrany Creek on the east side of that creek,
"from corner tree of land of William Stronge",
along trees of Mr. [Henry] Soane, etc.
Patent Book 4, page 257, dated 17 MAR 1658,
as abstracted in C & P, I: 387. This appears to
be a duplicate recording of above patent.
Patent Book 7, page 264, dated 16 APR 1683,
as abstracted in C & P, II: 258. Edward Ellerby
deeded 100 acres...part of 600 acres granted
to William Haveat on 20 OCT 1661 and
bequeathed to William Strong on 26 AUG 1663.
Strong sold the said 100 acres to Stephen Butts
on 8 OCT 1675, and Butts sold it to Ellerby on
17 SEP 1677.
Patent Book 7, page 264, dated 16 APR 1683,
as abstracted in C & P, II: pages 258-259.
John Doby was deeded 362 acres in James
City County, running from James River along
Edward Elleby's line, to Drinkard's line, to
head of a little creek at Mount Sinai Bridge,
and down same to the River. "Part of 600
acres granted to William Haveat 20 OCT 1661,
who by will dated 26 AUG 1663 bequeathed
to William Strong, who on 30 JAN 1677 [1678]
sold 100 acres to said Doby and by will
bequeathed 50 acres more to said Doby;
212 acres said Strong by will, dated 28 AUG
1675, gave to William and Hester Thomas,
who on 1st AUG 1676 assigned to said Doby."
******************************************************
INTERPRETATION: The above records probably
pertain to the same person: William Strong(e),
born about 1601, who arrived in the Virginia
Colony aboard the ship GEORGE in 1619.
However, a William Strong who was a
headright of William Barker and associates,
may have arrived later, but before 1639.
There are indications in other records,
not abstracted here, that there were probably
two William Strongs in the Virginia Colony by 1640.
A William Strong was definitely residing in
James City County prior to 1666 when he sold
land to John Williams. The remaining records
of William Strong in James City County are
definitely of this same person. He was likely
a son-in-law of William Haveat. His wife is
not otherwise identified. He died testate after
8 OCT 1675, when he sold land to Stephen
Butts. John Doby and William Thomas were
likely sons-in-law, as they were willed land by
William Strong. Hester Thomas was likely a
daughter of William Strong. William Strong
apparently was survived by no sons and
apparently had no heirs by predeceased sons.
A copy of the will of William Strong has not
been found.
There is thus no basis for believing that John
Strong of New Kent County, VA, was a son of
William Strong of James City County, VA.
A second William Strong was residing in Surry
County, Virginia, by 1661 [1662]. His records
will be presented in a later message.
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG Research in the British Islands
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 00:02:45 EST
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On 5 Jan 1997 08:34:22 EDT Dbsandmd@nhb.com wrote:
>Hi Bob...
>I noted your discussion with interest. As I was reading through the
>latest message, I was moved to ask about the following:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>""The following are gleamings from Virginia Land Patents, as
>>abstracted by Nugent, above, concerning William Strong(e).
>>Patent Book I, Part II, page 609, dated 12 FEB 1638
>>[1639], as abstracted in CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS
>>(C & P), Volune I, page 100. William Barker, Mariner, and his
>>Associates & Co.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>I know from your other messages that you have explored the Bristol
>Registers for William Strong... but have you taken the approach of
>researching who "William Barker, Mariner, and his Associates & Co"
>were?
> From my own exploration of English history, I would suspect these
>gentlemen were partners in a "Company of Adventurers" formed for
>profit and sanctioned by the Crown to plant in Virginia Colony. It
>seems logical to believe that they may have recruited settlers from
>the areas in England from which they, the Adventurers, came... eg.,
>if William Barker was from Dorset, or Somerset, he may have
>recruited "William Straing" in the same location. What do you think????
>By the way, thank you for the data on the Elder John Strong genealogy
>which I sort of put you on the spot about... {:-)!
>Dave Strong
**************************************************************************
Your comments are appreciated, Dave.
I agree with your premise. I have not pursued this, though, as
this is not my line of Strongs. I know that my ancestor was
John Strong of New Kent County, VA. I believe he was an
immigrant, primarily because Robert Hughes was credited with
transporting a John Strong to the Virginia Colony in 1682 or
earlier, because Robert Hughes was a resident of New Kent
County, VA, and his 1682 grant was in New Kent Co., VA.
No records have yet surfaced in Virginia to indicate this
John Strong may have been a son of one of the Strongs who
settled in Virginia earlier. [I will enumerate those about whom
I have data in posts to the STRONG Mail List.] As you know, I
have also found a record of a John Strong being transported
out of Bristol, England, to the Virginia Colony in 1772 to serve
an apprenticeship. I am not yet convinced he was the same
John Strong who was residing in New Kent County, VA, in
1698 through at least 1703, during which time three sons
were born. For one thing, the master listed in the 1772
record was not Robert Hughes. In summary, I am more
motivated to research the John Strong of the 1772 record
than I am to research William Strong of James City County, VA,
or any of the other several Strongs who were in Virginia before
1698. I have not done this partly out of ignorance about how to
proceed to find my John Strong in the British Islands when
I have no idea from whence he came. Any suggestions, Dave?
Or from anyone else?
Arriving in the Virginia Colony aboard the ship GEORGE
with William "Straing" [probably Strong(e)] was Dr. John
Woodson and his wife, Sarah, who settled in Henrico
County. He had a son, Robert Woodson, who became a
Quaker, as did Robert Hughes. Robert Hughes abandoned
his 1682 grant and then Robert Woodson and Company
claimed John Strong as a headright in a later grant. Both
Robert Hughes and Robert Woodson are associated in
Quaker records with Thomas Stanley, who was the
grandfather of my proven ancestor, Ann(e) Stanley Strong.
She settled in Goochland County, VA, around 1781--which
appears to have been immediately after her husband
[apparently Martin Strong, grandson of John of New Kent
County] died. In Goochland County, Ann(e) Strong was
a neighbor of Joseph Woodson and leased his lands.
So there was a two or three generation relationship
between the Woodsons and Strongs. This is a long
detour to get to my point, in agreement with your premise.
William Strong of James City County may have been
from the same vicinity in England as Dr. John Woodson's
family. Woodson's roots are probably well documented.
And it will probably be a lot easier to trace the
homeland of Rice [aka Reese] and Robert Hughes than
to trace the homeland of John Strong. There is ample
reason for believing these three may had a common
origin in terms of locality in the British Islands.
Bob Strong
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From: Dbsandmd@nhb.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong Research In British Isles
Date: 6 Jan 1997 10:26:20 EDT
Hi Bob. I got your response to my question re William Barker, Mariner,
etc. The response rather ties in with my own thinking .... and it was
piqued a little by your question in the latest Subscriber List about how
to improve the List...
Perhaps the greatest problem facing genealogists in the Americas (and I
suspect, Australia as well) is how to make the leap back across the
ocean, between what is known on our side of the ocean, and what is
available in the British Isles. Generally, we face numerous
obstacles... Poor or non-existant records, illiterate or at least
non-communicative ancestors, official disinterest (in the records) of
prior locations, our own ignorance of many nuances of British History
affecting our searches, our lack of knowledge of existing, available
records in the British Isles.... and on and on.
I think what is needed is a coordinated effort at compiling known data
about the origins of immigrants from the British Isles, which is colated
with known or knowable data about possible points of origins in the
homeland. The study needs to be sensitive to the flow os historical
background info affecting the impetus for, routes of, and means of
transportation. Much info is out there... and a lot of work has
already been done by many persons and groups.... somehow an effort needs
to be made to bring it together, organize it and try to build on it. I
know the SFAA has done a certain amount of work in this regard... but I
really think their focus is too limited. With respect, The Elder John
Strong lineage is really just one of many.
What is needed is a new, multi-based group, ready to try to track the
various possible lineage sources in Britian: The Breton-Norman
L'Estranges, who can be traced from The Battle of Hastings through (I
seem to recall) Shropshire.. and on to Scotland, THe Isle of Man, and
Settlements in the Irish Pale; The Armstrong clan of the Borders
region, many of whom may have changed their name to Strong to avoid
hanging or transportation or whatever, particularily about the time the
Plantations in America and Ireland began; The obvious concentrations of
Strongs in certain localities in the IGI... among them, I know or
suspect, Dorset, Somerset, Cumberlandshire, Fifeshire, Lancashire...
Detailed Input and analysis from genealogists in Britian who are
knowledgeable about the sources available.
Analysis of the various IGI listings to attempt to compile charts of
known family groups in Britain and Ireland; attention to variations in
spelling; again collation of known data about individuals who
immigrated; tracing the schedules over several years of known immigrant
ships... (some are known to have landed passengers in America at
differing dates, and are known to have sailed from Bristol, Liverpool,
and a host of other small outports--- we know some of the detail, can an
analysis fill in the blanks?); a process of elimination of data points
about known individuals; a computerized data base... lots of detail, and
insightful management. Coordinating imput from Britain, Ireland, the
Americas, Australia, and wereever. And, I think, the focus has to be in
Britain... NOT in the areas emigrated to!
What I am talking about is huge. It is long range. And it might in the
end be an exercise in futility for many. But, perhaps some useful
genealogical evidence can be gleaned and preserved for some or all who
are interested. In my own case, the loss of Irish records in the Four
Courts fire in Dublin ~1920 probably dooms my inquiry concerning the
origins of my Strong ancestors to informed speculation at best.
However, I would like to know the history surrounding the migration of
members of the family from, I SUSPECT Cumberlandshire, to Donegal and
Fermanagh, and on. Did they get "planted" in 1610? From Cumbria, or
from Bristol, or where? Or were they soldiers awarded land as pay for
service with Cromwell? Or did they immigrate from Scotland while
fleeing the religious persecutions of Presbyterians by Charles II's
ministers? Were George, John and William of "where ever" brothers,
cousins, relatives at all? Who likely went where and why? What Chain
Migration might have happened? Who was named after whom? What
information is available in London that was a copy of something lost in
Dublin? Gleanings from any and everywhere.
Rome was not built in a day, nor can we hope to build the data base I am
talking about in a day... but perhaps we can make a start. The question
is.... how?!
I don't have the solution to this question... I simply strive to pose it
in hope of stimulating discussion and possible movement in some
direction.
Dave Strong
PS: Please note, I intend to be traveling and working on some private business
for the next month, so may not have the time to follow up immediately on any
anticipated discussion... but I will attempt to keep track of it (if any there
be) and hopefully will be able to enter in further at some point.
to: IN:STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
cc: IN:rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: List of Subscribers & Robert's Ramblings
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:52:39 EST
SUBJECT: Members of list 'STRONG' as of FRI, 10 JAN 1997
Current number of subscribers: 32
**********************************************************************
There were no new subcribers and there was very little
traffic on the STRONG Mail List this week.
Having a lot of traffic on the STRONG Mail List is not a high
priority to me. What I would like to see are messages that
include a lot of information, rather than a lot of messages
that include little information. To paraphrase a Biblical
verse: Give, and you will Receive! Sharing information is
what our STRONG discussion group is all about.
A private note was received from Dave Strong
< Dbsandmd@nhb.com >, who indicated he woud be away
from his computer much of the month of January, so he
did not post publically to the Mail List. Dave expressed
some excellent ideas concerning his vision of the goals
and scope of the STRONG family discussion group. I hope
Dave will share his thoughts with the group when he is
again able to particate in the discussion.
Each of your ideas are requested also. Please express
them in an open, public discussion. What would you
like for our group to do with regard to searching for and
hopefully finding our roots, perhaps our common roots,
in "the old country"?
Gerry Strong < gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca > reported he
is a brother of Barbara Pederson, thus shares her
descent from William Strong of Newfoundland, Canada.
I sent a New Years Greeting and progress reprort to
our benefactor, Larry V. Stephens, who makes our Mail
Lists possible through his personal programming and
personal managemnt during his off duty hours, and his
utilization of his employers (the University of Indiana)
computer.
One item I mentioned to Larry was my feeling that a
co-manager is needed for the STRONG List--someone
who can fill in when I am on vacation, have emergencies,
etc., and someone who will succeed me one day.
Larry concurs. This has two components: (1)
providing some guidance and direction to the group;
and (2) taking care of a few adminstrative details,
such as deleting subscribers whose mail constantly
"bounces". Maintaning a subscriber list is not
mandatory but I have done this as an attempt to aid
subscribers to identify others who may be connected.
If you have any thoughts on this subject, please share
them with me.
A STANLEY Mail List was started about the same time
as our STRONG Mail List. Since I descend from Anne
(Stanley) Strong, I have been doing a bunch of posting
to the Stanley List and have, thus, been slow to finish
posting information about 17th Century Strong
immigrants to the Virginia Colony, as I had planned. My
apologies to the group for becoming distracted.
There is a discussion group for individuals who are
list managers, or "listowners". Persons who subscribe
to Mail Lists but never post anything are referred to
there as "Lurkers"? Are you a Lurker? Please tell the
group something about yourself and about your
connection to the STRONG or related surname and
about your research needs or goals, if you have not
already done so. Those who HAVE posted are invited to
re-post for the benefit of persons who subscibed
later. If you re-post, please state that in the Subject
Line so that those of us who save messages will not
be saving duplicates.
Please advise me of any needed corrections or
updates to the subscriber list, below.
Bob Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758-7113
< rtstrongjr@juno.com >
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"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Gerry Strong)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
ATHACKNEY@aol.com (Allan T. Hackney)
Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey,
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH.
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
STRONG: PA>OH;1727-Present
STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's
Probable descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
veeb@uk.pipeline.com (Lin Van Buren)
[Capt John Strong of CT & Rensselaer Co., NY]
JBleaux@aol.com (J. Breeze)
[__?__ Strong of Salisbury, CT]
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
70771.1421@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
ldooley@ims-1.com (Leanne Dooley)
[Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC,
& Lawremce Co., MS]
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
[__?__ Strong of Rockingham Co., NC]
Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
posted their lineage.
jrshome@msmary.edu
dparker@ma.ultranet.com
hereford@cdc.net
mcculler@mindspring.com
weir@u.washington.edu
LKZZ29A@prodigy.com
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From: dearborn@ccnet.com (Terry Dearborn)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Repeat post: STRONG: ? > Litchfield CT > Aurora IA; 1791-1891
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:02:56 -0800
Hello, group
I am searching for the parents of Lysander STRONG, #1 in the report below.
First Generation
---------------------------------------------
1. Lysander STRONG. Born 1791. Died 1837 in Medina, OH.
He married Harriet KEITH. Born 9 Jun 1806. Died 1841. They had the
following children:
2 i. Patty Martha Melissa STRONG
Second Generation
---------------------------------------------
2. Patty Martha Melissa STRONG. Born 31 May 1824 in Litchfield, CT. Died 17
Feb 1891 in Aurora, IA. Buried in Spangler cemetary, Aurora, Iowa.
She married John SMITH, in Wis. Born ? 1826 in IRL (Ireland). Died 1869 in
Buchanen Co., IA. Buried in Spangler Cemetary, Aurora, Iowa. They had the
following children:
3 i. Adelbert SMITH
Regards from Terry
dearborn@ccnet.com
Lafayette, CA
==================
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From: AkwiredTst@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Missing Persons
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:19:10 -0500 (EST)
I was recently contacted by a man who was tring to find his family. If
anyone has any information on this family group, please e-mail me at
AkwiredTst@aol.com.
My apoligies, this is all the information that I have.
William Glenn Strong (possibly from Longtree Iowa)
..........Johnny Charles Strong
....................Steve Strong (approx. 33 yrs old)
....................Johnny Strong (approx. 32 yrs old)
....................Jimmy Charles Strong (approx. 27 yrs old)
William and his sons Steve, Johnny, and Jimmy lived in Waco Texas around the
late 60s and early 70s.
Thanks
Matt Strong
AkwiredTst@aol.com
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From: Russell Laird
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Thomas "Mullins" Van Buren
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 12:33:46 -0600
Greetings to Everyone on the Strong Family List:
I must beg to apologize for taking so long to post to the list
and offer a proper introduction. As our gracious host, Mr.
Robert T. "Bob" Strong, is busy, so am I, running a LAIRD
family mail list. Since Bob started this list (and he is doing
a magnificent job of running it; best I've seen) I've been spending
what time I have researching Lairds, primarily, but I always
slow down to read every post to this list. It is, in a word,
fantastic.
My tie to the Strong line is thus: my father's mother was
Sybil Susan Strong, daughter of William Melvin "Mack"
Strong and Mary Susan Johnson of Wolf City, TX. Mack's
father was Thomas "Mullins" Van Buren Strong.
Brief outline:
1. John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA, probable immigrant
2. William Strong, Sr., of Hanover and Pittsylvania Cos. VA
3. Thomas Strong, Sr.
4. Thomas Strong, Jr.
5. William Dodson Strong
6. "Mulllins" Van Buren Strong
The Strong Family History lists him as Mullins Van Buren Strong.
His granddaughter lists him as Thomas Van Buren Strong,
and mentions that he is thought to have had a twin. Birthdate
from both sources is the same.
I want to offer the following to members of the list, a short piece
written by Norene Strong, a great-aunt of mine. She wrote it
probably 20-30 years ago while she was researching her family.
I've not seen her materials; still trying to obtain copies, but she
obviously did not have the WWW as a tool, nor the help of
Bob Strong, which has been invaluable (Thank you again, sir).
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Van Buren Strong
Thomas was born January 5, 1833 someplace as yet
unknown in Tennessee. When he was 22 he and three other
fellows married four sisters of the Jessie and Elizabeth Ellis
family of Tennessee on September 24, 1855. His parents are
still unknown. He is said to have had a twin brother and a sister
whose name was Donna Phillipi Montera Pallace Stelle Streller
Strong. This is all that has come to light on his own family.
Abraham Alonzo was the first child of Thomas and Matilda,
born Sept. 15, 1856 and died in infancy. Mary Florence Dixon was
born 8-29-1859. Elizabeth Emma White was born 11-29-1861.
In about 1864(?) Thomas and the other three fellows with
their Ellis brides and families moved to Sullivan County, Missouri
near Milan. Here they bought farms and just got a good start when
the Civil War started. A neighbor was killed in Thomas' front door,
probably over discussing which side to join, and our "Four Horsemen"
as we shall call them again joined hands and enlisted on the side
of the Union. Leo Dixon says Thomas told him that "They thought
they would be safer with the Yankees."
After the war the two boys were born, John Granville
1-1-1866 and William Melvin 2-29-1868. Thomas, now 33 and
apparently getting itchy feet to see some more of the west.
The "Four Horsemen" again loaded their wagons and moved
their families to Reno County, Kansas, near Hutchinson where
they all purchased new farms. James Albert was born 1-1-1870,
their last child, and died at the age of 17, on 9-13-1887.
In 1890 Thomas was to go through one of his most trying
years. He was 57 and probably in the midst of his happiest years
when on April 18 his Tennessee wife Matilda passed away. Then
there was more to come. He had signed whith one of his friends
on his friend's note on a farm. This proved costly as the note was
foreclosed and Thomas was left broke.
He headed south for Kingfisher (OK) where his son John
Granville had a farm northwest of town. It must have been a good hot
Oklahoma summer day because he had a pretty quick inspiration.
He spotted a water tank on pilings in the middle of main street and
with just enough money to buy a few lemons, sugar and ice, went
into business. This venture succeeded and in a short time he had
enough money to rent a small building and went into business in a
little larger way.
In 1895 Thomas was 63 and had made enough from his
business to buy his son John's farm when John moved his family
to El Reno. Leo and his mother Mary Dixon lived with Thomas here
after Mr. Dixon died until Mary decided to move to their farm north
of Ames. Thomas sold his farm and went with them to help farm the
place until Leo and Ralph were old enough to take over.
When the railroad came to Ames, Thomas built a small
building and had a cold drink business followed by a feed store for
a few years until he retired and lived the rest of his life on the Dixon
farm. Leo remembers him as a rather stern man, but liked and admired
him very much. Thomas died in 1917 and is buried in the Dixon plot
in Ames, Okla.
---------------------
Best to Everyone,
Russell Laird
rlaird@1starnet.com
Mt. Vernon, TX
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From: Leanne Dooley
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: [Fwd: Address change and Leanne's Ramblings.]
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:52:47 +0000
Robert asked me to please post this suggestion to the list and I'm too
lazy to retype it so I'll forward it. Cheers Leanne Dooley
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:57:24 +0000
From: Leanne Dooley
Reply-To: ldooley@dexter.net
To: "Robert T. Strong"
Subject: Address change and Leanne's Ramblings.
Mornin' Robert I need to ask you to please change my email address to
ldooley@dexter.net. The mail server did it, not me, and I'm promised
better service. Hope so. Just a suggestion but maybe there could be an
attempt for searchers of the same general lines to lst the resources
that they've already checked so as to help cut out duplication of
ordering films or books, etc. When I join a new mail list, I go over all
my regular files and try to reread my MISC. INFO on that surname file.
These notes may carry info that I can't use yet or ever, but would
really help someone else. So I refresh my feeble mind from time to time
so as to be able to recogize and respond. I'm working on several
different lines and sometimes have to make great efforts at keeping
everything straight. Just a suggestion. Keep up the good work. Francie,
Kay and I are attacking The Eliz.Strong puzzle. Maybe we'll get some
more on this rather fascinating lady and her offspring. I really feel
that my Samuel Strong of Lawrence Co., MS, is somehow connected to her
group. Thanks for the help & the opportunity to connect. Leanne Dooley
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:01:17 EST
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From: Leanne Dooley
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Leanne's Ramblings
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:52:47 +0000
LEANNE DOOLEY'S SUGGESTION:
"Just a suggestion but maybe there could be an attempt for
searchers of the same general lines to ilst the RESOURCES
that they've already checked so as to help cut out duplication
of ordering films or books, etc. When I join a new mail list, I go
over all my regular files and try to reread my MISC. INFO on that
surname file. These notes may carry info that I can't use yet
or ever, but would really help someone else. So I refresh my
feeble mind from time to time so as to be able to recogize
and respond. I'm working on several different lines and
sometimes have to make great efforts at keeping everything
straight. Just a suggestion."
==================================================
Hello, Strong Searchers!
Leanne has a very good suggestion: that each of us post
the RESOURCES we personally possess, and/or that we have
utilized, and/or to which we have easy access. Leanne further
suggests we categorize these by family groups--people who are
searching the same STRONG lineages.
I think it would enhance the process if someone from each
STRONG subgroup volunteered to collate these postings,
keep the bibliography updated, and post it to the List from time
to time. The bibliography needs to include the names and E-Mail
addresses of the holders of the resources. Any volunteers?
Some of our STRONG subgroups would be:
STRONGS OF ENGLAND
STRONGS OF IRELAND
STRONGS OF CANADA
STRONGS OF AUSTRALIA
STRONGS OF THE USA:
Descendants of John Strong, the church elder, of MA
Descendants of John Strong of VA
Descendants of other Strongs in USA
STRONGS OF OTHER NATIONS
Any others?
The miscellaneous unconnected STRONGS in the
USA might be the most difficult to assemble.
The above are not 100% mutually exclusive. For
example we have Irish Canadians and Irish
Americans.
I have previously posted a couple of references I have
in my personal library and to which I frequently refer
when I reply to posts on the STRONG Mail List. Searching
through my past postings, though, these are not readily
apparent from the Subject lines. The implication is that
if we post a message about RESOURCES, that should be
the first word in the subject line.
In keeping with that observation, I will post some of my
most frequently used RESOURCES in a separate message.
Bob
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758-7113
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: RESOURCES in the library of Robert T. Strong, Jr.
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:01:17 EST
Rolff, James Robert. STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA
AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES. Oak Forest, IL:
the compiler, (c) 1982. Ordering address (1997) :
James R. Rolff, 9101 East Mail Street, Galesburg,
MI 49053.
This book is primarily about John Strong of New
Kent County, VA, and his descendants. Virginia
Land Patents of Strongs and related surnames,
as found in CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, are also
presented. There are sections on Leonard Strong
of Virgiina and Maryland, and on Nathaniel Strong
of Norfolk County, VA--two unconnected families.
As I have indicated previously, Rolff's treatment
of my ancestor, Ann(e) Stanley Strong, is quite
confused. See the following reference, instead,
for data on her husband and descendants.
Strong Family Associaton of America (Lyle A. Strong
and Robert S. Strong, Associate Historians, compilers).
STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME V. Published
for the SFAA by Edwards Brothers, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI,
(c) SFAA, 1996. Ordering address: Mr. Harold Strong,
SFAA Book Sales Coordinator, 165 State Route 38,
Owego, New York 13827.
The book includes an update to Rolff's book, above,
plus data on numerous unconnected Strong families.
Two chapters concern the "Elder" John Strong line.
The following is from the Index:
Strong Family Association of America
Preparation of this book
Origin of the Strong name
Ann Strong of Colchester, Connecticut
Anne Cynthia Strong of Worthington, Ohio
Christopher Strong of Scotland
Clifton Strong of Medonte Township, Ontario, Canada
Cyrus Strong of New England
Cyrus Strong of Vermillion County, Illinois
Daniel Ozero Strong of Buffalo, New York
Edward Strong of Norfolk [County], Virginia
Eleanor Strong of Windom, Connecticut
Enos Strong of Pennsylvania and Ohio
Ezekiel Strong of Lake Champlain, New York
Ezekiel Strong of Vermont and New York
Frederick Strong of Dutches County, New York
George Strong of Scotland
Henry Strong of New York and Wisconsin
Hiram Strong of Wyoming County, New York
Hugh Strong of Drumhome Parish, County Donegal, Ireland
Jabin/Gabin Strong of Scotland
Jacob Strong of Pennsylvania and Michigan
James Harvey Strong of Indiana
James Strong of Ireland and Ohio
James Strong of Harrison County, Ohio
James Strong of York County, Pennsylvania
John Strong of County Cork, Ireland, and Albany, Kentucky
John M. Strong
John Strong of Branch County, Michigan
John Strong of Chester County, Pennsylvania
John Strong of Connecticut
John Strong of Clinton, Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
John Strong of New Kent County, Virginia
Introduction [by Robert T. Strong, Jr.]
First Five Generations [by Robert T. Strong, Jr.]
Sherwood Strong
Mastin Strong
Robert Strong
Sherwood Strong
Johnson Strong
John Strong
John Strong
George Strong
Nathan Strong
William Strong
Samuel Strong
Thomas Strong
Livert Strong of Gainsborough, Ontario, Canada
Louus/Ludwig Strong of Baltimore, Maryland
Luman Strong of Orange County, Vermont,
and Dodgeville, Wisconsin
Martha Alice Strong of pottawtomi, Oklahoma
Marvin Strong of Illinois
Michael Strong of Ireland
Othniel Strong of Berkshire County, Massachusetts
Polly Strong of New London, Connecticut
Ralph Bernard Strong of Ohio and Texas
Roswell Strong of Massachusetts
Sally Ann Strong of Clinton, Lanawee, Michigan
Samuel Strong of Mifflin County, Pennsylvania
Stephen Strong of Colstock, Cornwall, England
Thomas Strong of New Brunswick, Canada
Thomas Strong of New York
Thomas Strong of North Carolina
Thomas Strong of Ontario, Canada
Thomas Strong of Virginia
Timothy Strong of Wiltshire, England
Tom and William Strong of Quebec, Canada
William Strong of Alabama
William Strong of Bolton, Connecticut
William Strong of Durham, Connecticut
William, John, and Thomas Strong of Ireland
William Strong of Ohio
George Strong of Chardstock, Dorset, England
William Strong of Chard, Sommerset, England
I also have in my possession a copy of a FORD-
STRONG genealogical database compiled by
Robert A. ("Bob") Thomas of Anniston, AL, who
is a Ford descendant. This database has many,
but no means all, of the descendants of John
Strong, the 1630/1635 immigrant to Massachusetts.
Some data on his ancestry is also included.
{I will add to this database as members of the
STRONG Mail List donate additional GEDCOMS.
Several Strong GEDCOMS contributed to me in
the past have already been added.]
Before James R. Rolff started his Strong
Newletter and wrote this book, I also researched
the Virginia Land Patents and Grants, as
abstracted in CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, Volumes
1 through 3. [Volume 4 was published later.]
I have photocopies of many pages from Nell
Nugent's volumes concerning Strongs,
Straughans, Strange, etc., and their neighbors
and associates. These give the original source
documentation [Patent Book number and page],
which was not included in Rolff's book.
I submitted an annotated bibliography containing
28 references to the SFAA book, above. See
pages 277-281. These references were arranged
chronologically to show the progression of our
knowledge regarding the Strongs of New Kent and
Hanover Counties, VA, and their descendants.
"What was known, and when was it known?"
If possible, I will import this bibliography to the
STRONG Mail List.
Bob Strong
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way,
Madison, AL 35758-7113
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From: cterrell@juno.com (Cleta M Terrell)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: RESOURCES
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:57:11 PST
I'm afraid my only resource is a print out of the STRONG line from the
Ancestral File
at the LDS library in Salt Lake. Someone sent it to me just over two
years ago. I do
have a couple of letters with tid-bits of information on my gg
grandparents, Harriet
Strong Croy Blakely and Zerah Blakely in Gallia County Ohio before they
came to
Arkansas about 1857. These letters are from one of the people who
submitted the
information to the Ancestral File.
Cleta in Arkansas
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: RESOURCES: John Strong, New Kent Co., VA, & Descendants
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:25:23 EST
JOHN STRONG OF NEW KENT COUNTY, VIRGINAI
AND HIS DESCENDANTS
ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY
(IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER)
1. Goochland County, Virginia, Court ORDER BOOKS.
September, 1779, Book 13: pp. 227-228. March, 1780, Book
14: p. 13. March, 1781, Book 14, 71.
These are the original records pertaining to the oaths of
John Strong regarding his own and his brother's,
Sherwood Strong's, military service during the French and
Indian Wars, and a record pertaining to the disposition of the
military land warrants.
2. Jones, W. Mac. (transcriber). THE DOUGLAS REGISTER.
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1928, 1966,
1973.
This is the published version of the Register of St. James
Northam Parish of the Church of England, Goochland County, VA.
This register contained records of the christenings of several
Strong children, including children of 9. William, 10.
Nathaniel and 11. Martha Strong, whose spouses were named.
These christenings were between 1767 and 1776.
3. Barnhill, Celeste Terrell. VIRGINIA QUAKER STANLEYS AND
DESCENDANTS. Miami Beach, FL: the compiler (5369 Pine Tree
Drive), 1931.
This genealogy, apparently based on Stanley family records,
reported that Anne Stanley married 6. Martin Strong. Anne
Stanley Strong was a daughter of John Stanley, "the eldest",
of Cedar Creek Meeting House, Society of Friends (Quakers),
located in western Hanover County [that is, in St. Martin's
Parish]. A copy of this rare manuscript was found at the
Virginia Historical Society, Richmond, VA.
4. Hale, Margaret Miriam Strong. THE GENEALOGY OF THE RAGLAND
FAMILIES. Publisher and date of publication not recorded;
probably published before 1933.
Mrs. Hale (1855-1933) traced her ancestry to John Strong,
Sr., of New Kent County, VA. Mrs. Hale had obviously
discovered the records of the christenings of three sons of
John Strong, Sr., in the Register of St. Peter's Parish.
Hale's proven ancestor was 9. William Strong, Sr., whose first
record was a 1759 Goochland County, VA, deed which indicated
William Strong and his wife, Frances [Johnson], had previously
resided in Hanover County, VA, in St. Martin's Parish of the
Church of England, which is the western portion of the
county.
5. Chamberlayne, C. G. THE VESTRY BOOK AND REGISTER OF ST.
PETER'S PARISH, NEW KENT AND JAMES CITY COUNTIES, VIRGINIA,
1684-1786. Richmond, VA: The Library Board [now The Virginia
State Library and Archives], 1937.
This is the Register that contains the christenings of three
sons of John Strong between 1698-1703. The Vestry Book
contains no clear references to the Strong family. There is
reference that might be regarding the wife or widow of John
Strong, Sr., but the name is spelled differently.
6. Rand, Nettie Hale. RAND-HALE STRONG AND ALLIED FAMILIES. New
York City, NY: The American Historical Company, Inc., 1940.
Mrs. Rand expanded on the genealogy published earlier by
Margaret Miriam Strong Hale. By 1940, Mrs. Rand had
determined that Martin, Sherwood, John, and
William Strong were brothers. Her main source was an
extract from Goochland County, VA, Order Book for 1780 that
was published in Virginia Magazine of History and Biography,
Vol. 23, p. 82. She believed these four brothers were sons of
William Strong (rather than John Strong). The history
primarily concerns William Strong and descendants.
7. Chamberlayne, C. C. THE VESTRY BOOK OF ST. PAUL'S PARISH,
HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1706-1786. Richmond, VA: The
Library Board [now Virginia State Library and Archives], 1940.
A transcript of the Vestry Book of St. Paul's Parish, New Kent
County [1706-1720] and Hanover County [1720-1786], VA.
Included were references to William Strong [dated 1759-1763],
William "Straughan" [dated 1739] and George "Staughan" [dated
from about 1730-1744].
8. Nugent, Nell Marion. CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS: ABSTRACTS OF
VIRGINIA LAND PATENTS AND GRANTS. Vol. I, 1623-1688, (c)
1963. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co. Four
volumes, covering different periods, published in different
years.
There is much information in these volumes pertaining to
persons named Strong(e), sometimes mis-spelled, who immigrated
to the Virginia Colony. A 1682 grant in New Kent County, VA,
which included a headright of 50 acres for transporting a John
Strong to Virginia was abstracted from Patent Book 7, Page
126. This John Strong may possibly be the same person as
John Strong, whose sons were christened in St. Peter's Parish,
New Kent County, Virginia, 1698-1703.
9. "Talledega County, Alabama: William Strong's Prayer Book".
THE ALABAMA GENEALOGICAL REGISTER, Vol. VIII, No. 4.
December, 1966.
A transcript of the family birth register maintained in a
Church of England Prayer Book by William Strong, born about
1700 in New Kent County. The transcript was contributed by
William M. Roberts of Sylacauga, Alabama.
10. Johnson, Marjorie Going(s). THE STRONGS-GOINGS-DEANS-
CAMPBELLS-METCALFS-AND OTHER FAMILIES IN SHELBY COUNTY, TEXAS,
FROM 1850-1968. Dallas, TX: the author, 1968. [Ms. Johnson
and her husband are deceased, survived by one son: Richard
Logan Johnson.]
The book includes an account of her Strong ancestors in Shelby
County, Texas. The ancestry of Isham S. Strong of Shelby
County was unknown at that time. Mrs. Johnson suspected he
was related to William Strong, Sr., of Clarke County, GA.
11. Woodson, Robert F. & Woodson, Isobel B. (compilers).
VIRGINIA TITHABLES FROM BURNED RECORD COUNTIES. Published by
Isobel B. Woodson, 1970. No address recorded on title page.
The book includes a list of persons who were assessed real
estate taxes in Hanover County, VA, in 1763. Martin Strong
was taxed for 200 acres in 1763. [Since Martin did not
appear in processioning records of St. Paul's Parish, which is
the eastern part of the county, his land was obviously located
in St. Martin's Parish in the western part of the county.]
12. Hinshaw, William Wade (compiler). ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN
QUAKER GENEALOGY, VOLUME VI. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical
Publishing Co., 1973.
A genealogical index of the minutes of the Cedar Creek Monthly
Meeting [later renamed Richmond Monthly Meeting], Society of
Friends. These contained notations about the excommunication
of Mrs. Anne Stanley Strong in early 1754 because she had
married a person who was not a Quaker. Miss Anne Stanley had
been counseled by the church not to marry Mr. Strong, not
further identified, in the latter part of 1753.
[This published index did not include the names of all
witnesses to Quaker marriages. For example, the attendance at
two weddings by Mary Strong was not indexed. On 16 OCT 1754,
John Stanley, Jr, son of John Stanley, the eldest, married
Edith (Edie) Hutchens, daughter of Strangeman Hutchens, at the
Genito Meeting House in Goochland County, with Mary Strong
signing the marriage certificate. Mary Strong signed another
marriage certificate on 12 JUN 1765, when John Stanley, son of
Maddox Stanley, married Milly Stanley, daughter of John
Stanley, the eldest. The Mary Strong of these two records has
not been conclusively identified but is believed to be the
widow of John Strong, Jr., deceased by 1751, and to be the
same Mary Strong who resided in Goochland County, apparently
with John Strong, III, until about 1787, when her records
cease. Martin Strong, II, and his sisters later purchased
land from John Stanley, Jr., younger brother of Anne Stanley
Strong. Edith (Edie) Hutchens Stanley was a possibly a sister
of Martha Hutchens Stanley, the second wife of John Stanley,
the eldest.]
13. Bell, James P. OUR QUAKER FRIENDS OF YE OLDEN TIME.
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1976.
Abstracts of selected minutes of the Cedar Creek Meeting
House, Society of Friends are included. The marriage
certificate of Thomas Stanley [son of John Stanley and Unity
Crew] in 1780 was witnessed by Elizabeth, Sarah, and Mary
Strong. The 1787 marriage certificate of Littleberry Stanley
[son of Thomas Stanley and Agatha Stanley], was witnessed by
John Strong and George Strong. These five were all apparently
siblings of Martin Strong, II
14. Warren, Mary Bonderant (Editor). FAMILY PUZZLERS,
Danielsville, GA 30633-9611. Number 472, 4 NOV 1976, pp.
11-13.
In response to a query by Mrs. W. R. Sugg of West Point, MS,
regarding William Strong, son of Johnson Strong, an
abstract of the will of William Strong, Sr., of Clarke
County, GA, dated 11 JAN 1816, was published. The editor,
Mary Bonderant Warren, a descendant of Charles Strong of
Clarke Co., GA, son of John Strong, III, printed what she
knew about the William Strong family at that time.
15. Davis, Rosalie Edith. FREDRICKSVILLE PARISH VESTRY BOOK,
1742-1787. Manchester, MO: The compiler, 1978.
Abstracts of the Vestry Book of Fredricksville Parish, Louisa
County, VA. Included was a reference to Martin Strong, I,
attending a processioning in late 1759 or early 1760.
16. Blunt, Charles P., IV (compiler). LAND PATENTS AND GRANTS OF
HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA (1721-1800), (c) the compiler, 1980,
p. 82.
Abstracts of Hanover County, VA, deeds that survived the War
Between the States. A 1759 grant that made reference to
"George Straughan" who previously owned the land in Hanover
County is included. George Straughan apparently resided in
York County and apparently died without heirs in 1748 or
earlier. This record was abstracted from Hanover County Deed
Book 34, Page 256.
17. Rolff, James Robert (editor). STRONGS OF VIRGINIA NEWSLETTER
and STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES
NEWSLETTER. Published by the editor, 1980-1983. 1995
address: 9101 East Main Street, Galesburg, MI 49053.
In 1980, James Robert (Jim) Rolff organized a number of
Strongs and Strong descendants in an effort to exchange
genealogical information about the Strongs of Virginia. He
compiled, printed, and distributed the newsletter, the first
issue of which was dated October, 1980. The name of the
periodical was subsequently changed. The last issue was dated
September, 1983. The many individuals who contributed data to
the newsletter are identified on pages 282 and 293 of the
1995 SFAA publication, Item 25, below.
18. "Goochland County, Virginia, 1800 Tax List; List of John
Underwood, Upper District." THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, Vol.
25, Number 1, pp. 7-11; Vol. 25, Number 2, pp. 103-111.
Nathan Strong and two sons, George and Thomas
Strong are listed. Also listed are Mrs. Anne Strong and two
sons, Mastin and Thomas Strong. This was the first
published indicatioin of Mrs. Anne Strong and her family in
Goochland County. The clue resulted in an intensive search of
Goochland County tax and other civil records, yielding much
information about the descendants of John Strong, Jr.
19. Rolff, James Robert. STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA AND OTHER
SOUTHERN STATES. The author, 1983. 1995 address: 9101 East
Main Street, Galesburg, MI 49053.
The book contained most of the data that had been contributed
to the newsletter, in a more organized fashion. This was the
first effort to develop a comprehensive history and genealogy
of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County, VA, and his
descendants.
20. Reynolds, William W. "Records of a Hanover County, Virginia,
Day Book, 1751-1757." In THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, Vol. 29,
Number 16, October-December, 1985, pp. 278-293.
Abstracts of a Merchandise Day Book (accounts receivable)
maintained by Col. John Chiswell, who operated a general store
in western Hanover County, were published in this periodical
article. The store accounts documented that a John Strong had
deceased prior to the earliest entries in this account book,
which began in 1751. Several members of this family,
including Martin Strong, were associated with the account
of the estate of John Strong, deceased. The original copy of
this Merchandise Day Book is found in the Southern Historical
Collection at the Wilson Library, University of North Carolina
at Chapel Hill, North Carolina. The original has been studied
and additional unpublished data about the Strong family has
been gleamed.
21. Slatten, Richard & Bagby, James (transcribers). "Accounts
from the Store of Thomas Partridge & Co., Hanover County, VA,
1734-1756." In MAZAZINE OF VIRGINIA HISTORY, Vol. 24, Number
1: pp. 34-48; Number 2: pp. 42-54; Number 3, pp. 43-56; Number
4: pp. 23-35.
Some records from the stores operated by Thomas Partridge and
Company in Hanover County were published in a series of
periodical articles in 1985 and 1986. There were apparently
two stores: one in the eastern part of Hanover County and one
in the western part of the county. William Strong was
mentioned several times, with earliest entry dated 1736. This
was undoubtedly William Strong, Sr. (son of John Strong, Sr.,
of New Kent County, VA), age about 36. Martin Strong traded
at the "upper" (western) store about 1756.
22. Strong, Robert T., Jr. THE ISHAM S. STRONG FAMILY OF SHELBY
COUNTY, TEXAS. Huntsville, AL: the author, 1986. 1995
address: 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758-7113.
A history of the Isham S. Strong family of Shelby County, TX.
This included a brief account of the ancestry of Isham S.
Strong, who was a grandson of Mrs. Anne Strong of Goochland
County, VA. Anne Strong was believed to be the wife and widow
of Martin Strong, I, who was believed to be the son of John
Strong, Jr., of western Hanover County, VA.
23. Coldham, Peter Wilson. THE COMPLETE BOOK OF EMIGRANTS, 1661-
1699. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1990.
Page 203.
Includes a record regarding a John Strong who was apprenticed
in Bristol, England, on 23 OCT 1672, to Thomas Fisher for four
years service in Virginia. This John Strong is psssibly the
immigrant ancestor of the Strongs of New Kent and Hanover
Counties, Virginia.
24. Blankenship, Gayle King. VIRGINIA FAMILIES OF LOUISA,
HANOVER, AND MONROE COUNTIES. Copyright 1991, the author,
24 Roberts Landing, Poquoson, VA 23662.
An account of Blankenship's Strong ancestry is included. She
traced her ancestry to the Martin Strong, who is identified as
Martin Strong, II, in the 1995 SFAA book. Mrs. Blankenship
believed her Martin Strong, II, and his 12 siblings were
children of Martin Strong, I, and Anne Stanley Strong.
25. Strong Family Association of America (Lyle A. Strong and
Robert S. Strong, Associate Historians). STRONG FAMILY
HISTORIES, VOLUME V, SOME FAMILIES OF STRONG THAT ARE
KNOWN NOT TO BE DESCENDED FROM ELDER JOHN STRONG OF
NORTHAMPTON, MASSACHUSETTS. (c) 1995, SFAA. Printed by
Edwards Brothers, Inc., 2500 South State Street, Ann Arbor,
Michigan 48106-1007. Ordering address: % Mr. Harold Strong,
165 State Route 38, Owego, New York 13827.
***************************************************************************
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way,
Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. All rights reserved. Distribution
for a fee is prohibited. Permission is
granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Procedure for Obtaining Achived Messages
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:50:03 EST
STRONG LIST SUBSCRIBERS:
Following is Larry Stephen's Standing Operating Procedure for
obtaining archived messages from the MAISER Listserver.
Notice the last paragraph regarding "Locked" files. That is
what is happening with the directory for the STRONG Mail List
(std.dir). Also notice the reference to weekly, monthly, and
quarterly archives.
Bob Strong
***************************************************************************
From: MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: OBTAINING ARCHIVES FROM RMGATE
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 11:07:39 GMT-0500
This file contains instructions for obtaining archives from RMGATE.
IT LOOKS HARD - BUT IT ISN'T. Print this message and take some
time to look at it and study it. Have it handy to refer to it as you try
this the first time. It's really not difficult if you take it a step at a
time
and type everything correctly.
******
To get an archive file you send a message to
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu that looks like this:
SEND filename
EXIT
You DON'T actually send the word "filename" but that's
where the name of the file you want goes. We'll get to
that in a minute. Remember, you can put anything you
want in the subject line - it's ignored. The first line
of your message must be where the commands start.
*****
What files do you want?
The easiest way to find out what archives are available for a given
list is to ask for that list's directory. That's a two step process.
STEP 1:
First, you have to find out the extension (think of the extension as an
ID tag) I use for that list. To do that, you have to send for another
file.
FILELIST.1 has the IDs for lists that begin with A-H
FILELIST.2 has the IDs for lists that begin with I-Q
FILELIST.3 has the IDs for lists that begin with R-Z
Let's say you want the archives for ADKINS You would send a
message to MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
SEND FILELIST.1
(Note: You have to spell that right! It has to have the period in it!)
When you get it back, look through the list. You'll see an entry
like this:
ADKINS .adk 46 S
or something like that. The number is the number of people
subscribed to the list. For now, just ignore the S out there on
the end.
Your ID is ADK (upper case/lower case makes no difference).
STEP 2:
Now, send for the directory file. Send a message to
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
SEND ADK.DIR
You'll get back a file that looks like this:
96-11-W1.ADK ** 96-11-W2.ADK ** 96-11-W3.ADK ** 96-11-W4.ADK
96-12-09.ADK ** 96-12-11.ADK ** 96-12-12.ADK ** 96-12-14.ADK
96-12-15.ADK ** 96-12-16.ADK ** 96-12-17.ADK ** 96-12-18.ADK
96-12-19.ADK ** 96-12-24.ADK ** 96-12-25.ADK ** 96-12-28.ADK
96-12-W1.ADK ** 96-Q3.ADK ** 96-Q4.ADK ** 97-01-02.ADK
97-01-04.ADK ** 97-01-05.ADK ** 97-01-06.ADK ** 97-01-07.ADK
96ADKQ4.MST
There are four kinds of files shown here:
96-12-09.ADK This holds the messages sent in
on December, 9, 1996
96-11-W1.ADK This holds the messages sent in the
first week of November, 1996.
96-Q3.ADK This holds the files sent in during the
third quarter of 1996 (July - September).
96ADKQ4.MST This is an index of the messages sent
in during the fourth quarter of 1996.
The
index file is a lot smaller than the the
file
with all the messages. You can look
through it and see if you want to send
for
the messages.
To get a file, send a message to
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
SEND 96-Q3.ADK
EXIT
*******
Can I send for more than one file at a time?
Yes. There's no limit to how many you send for. Remember,
though, if you make an error (say, typing SEN instead of
SEND) that processing stops on that line, so anything
you've asked for below that line won't be sent.
*******
What if I get a message about the file "not found or LOCKED"?
Make sure you typed the name right. (Your original message will
be at the bottom of the error response.) Try again later; the file
may be temporarily LOCKED here. If problems continue, contact
me at
Larry V. Stephens
LVS@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: SUBSCRIBERS to STRONG Mail List, 17 JAN 97
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:18:01 EST
SUBJECT: Members of STRONG Mail List
as of FRIDAY, 17 JAN 1997
*********************************************************************
Current number of subscribers: 34
New Subscribers This Week: 2 (See end of List.)
Temporaily Inactive Subscribers:
Mike Strong [strong@sta.dfo.ca>
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Requesting Archived Messages from MAISER:
The Directory of Archived Messages for the STRONG Mail
List is unavailable from MAISER. This is a temporary situation,
I hope. However, the archived messages, per se, are being
distributed by the MAISER Listserver.
>From my own files, I can verify that there were messages posted
to the STRONG Mail List every day from 8 DEC 96 until 16 JAN 97
EXCEPT for 25 and 27 DEC 96, and 7, 8, 9, 13, 14 and 16 JAN 97.
To make things simpler, I will update and post this list of
EXCEPTIONS to the STRONG Mail List weekly.
I will forward a message about obtaining archived
messages which contains additional information not
included in my earlier message on this topic. For example,
how to obtain weekly archives, monthly archives, etc.
But this is a little irrelevant if we can't get the MAISER
Listserver to send us the Directory (send std.dir).
Keep the messge on file for future use.
For some of us, such as those who use JUNO, there is
a limit on the size of the files we can receive. Keep this
in mind when you request archived files. A Quarterly File
will probably be too large for JUNO to handle, for example.
SUGGESTIONS:
Post a brief autobiography giving some information about
yourself and your immediate family and ancestry. Let's get
better acquainted with one another!
Feel free to post any of the following: Family Group Sheets,
Ancestor Charts, Descendancy Charts, biographies of Strong
ancestors, Tiny Tafels, a list of families you are researchng
(Who?, Where?, When?), and similar types of materials.
REMINDER: To prevent the lines in your messages from
becoming broken and fragmented in transmission, do two
things: Keep line lengths to 65 or less. Do not use tabs.
If you want to see how your message will look after you
have transmitted it, send it to yourself first. (This is a
"trick" I learned from Larry Stephens, who operates ALL
of our Lists behind the scenes.]
Bob Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758-7113
< rtstrongjr@juno.com >
**********************************************************************
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
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Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Gerry Strong)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
ATHACKNEY@aol.com (Allan T. Hackney)
Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey,
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH.
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
STRONG: PA>OH;1727-Present
STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's
Probable descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
veeb@uk.pipeline.com (Lin Van Buren)
[Capt John Strong of CT & Rensselaer Co., NY]
JBleaux@aol.com (J. Breeze)
[__?__ Strong of Salisbury, CT]
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
70771.1421@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
[Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN]
ldooley@dexter.net (Leanne Dooley)
[Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC,
& Lawremce Co., MS]
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
[__?__ Strong of Rockingham Co., NC]
Lineage unidentified or unknown. Subscribers have not
posted their lineage.
jrshome@msmary.edu
dparker@ma.ultranet.com
hereford@cdc.net
mcculler@mindspring.com
weir@u.washington.edu
LKZZ29A@prodigy.com
Skip50310@aol.com (Skip Weaver) NEW
KELASN@aol.com (Kelly __?__) NEW
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From: Dick Parker
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Stong>MA
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:49:02 -0800
I'm new to this list and family research in general.
My family line goes back to a George Strong and jane Misservy of
Marblehead MA circa 1740's.
I am interseted in researching this line in more detail and would
appreciate any pointers regarding sources.
Is there a good source in Marblehead or Salem on the Strong Line?
If not, what would anyone recommend as a starting point.
Thanx, Dick Parker
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: (1.) Resource; (2.) 1635 Strong Immigrant to MA
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:23:37 EST
The following reference should be of interest to
most researchers who have roots in England.
This is the first in a set of about four volumes,
each covering a different period of time. There
is a full name index to persons who were
transported to the British Colonies, either
voluntarily or involuntarily. [You'll be surprised
at how many of our ancestors and founding
fathers were deported because they were
paupers, vagrants, scoundrels, thieves, etc.]
This particular transcript will be of special
interest to descendants of John Strong, the
immigrant tanner and Elder in his church
in Massachusetts and/or Connecticut. Unlike
many passenger lists, this one did not give the
ages of the passengers.
***********************************************************
Peter Wilson Coldham (Compiler). THE COMPLETE
BOOK OF EMIGRANTS, 1607-1660. Baltimore, MD:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., (c) 1987.
Reprinted 1988 and 1992.
"A Comprehensive Listing Compiled from English
Public Records of Those Who Took Ship to the
Americas for Political, Religious, and Economic
Reasons; of Those Who Were Deported for
Vagrancy, Roguery, or Non-Conformity; and of
Those Who Were Sold to Labour in the New
Colonies."
***********************************************************
Quoted from Pages 143-144 but reformatted:
"8 MAY 1635. Following passengers shipped
in the HOPEWELL, Master John Driver, bound
from Weymouth to Massachusetts Bay:
John Crowe of Eilpeck and his family;
David Prise of Ilminster and his family;
William Black and his family;
Edmund Marshull and his family;
John Stronge and his family;
Edward Clap and his family;
John Rockwell and his family;
John Duabant and his family;
Thomas Demick, his wife and family;
John Whettcombe and his family;
__?__ Gachill and his family;
Daniell Stolack and his family;
William Lane, his wife and son;
John Gilbert and his family;
Matew Hearne and friends;
William Malton, his wife and family;
Thomas Richardes, his wife and family;
Thomas Bushrod
and others."
"(PRO: E190/876/1)"
********************************************************
"Sources and Abbreviations" lists many sites
where original documents are archived in
England.
>From page xvii:
"PRO. Public Record Office. Most references
are to documents held at the PRO, Chancery
Lane, London WC2A 1LR, England; those
references with a CO prefix are held at the PRO,
Key Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, England."
***********************************************************
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: "Missing" Person: Robert Strong of Atlanta, GA, b. abt. 1968
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:54:35 EST
Can anyone help this "damsel in distress?" My suggestion
was to check the telephone directory and/or the city
directory of Atlanta, circa 1975, to identify the father's name,
which might help.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
=============== Begin forwarded message ===============
From: "Lisa S. Chkoreff"
To: Strong@maine.maine.edu, RobertS@/sessionware.com,rstrong@bendnet.com,
rstrong@primenet.com,strong@fiat.gslis.utexas.edu,
bobb9091@j51.com,rstrong@usa.pipeline.com,
rtstrongjr@juno.com,robert.thomas.strong@vikingc.com,
Subject: Are you Robert Strong of Atlanta, GA, 1975?
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:08:20 -0500 (EST)
Hi. I am looking for a friend of mine. Last time I saw him we
were both about, oh, seven years old. Here are the facts I
know about him:
1. Obviously, his name is Robert Strong.
2. He lived in Atlanta, Ga. sometime around 1975.
3. He had a younger brother, Kevin, and a younger sister, Dana.
(My brother tells me the pretty lady I remember as R's mom
may have been the older sister the whole neighborhood had a
crush on.)
4. His father worked for IBM.
5. They all moved to Japan while I was on vacation. Mom says
they later moved to New York. She can't find any of the letters
from them now (I never saw them).
6. His father built them a really cool fort on stilts in their backyard.
7. He had blue eyes.
I would like to find him because we were good friends at seven.
I am curious to know how his life is going. (Mine is going rather
well.) If you happen to be him or know of him, please write me
back. Ah, the wonders of the Internet!
Lisa Chkoreff, still in Atlanta, Ga.
================ End forwarded message ================
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: William Strong of Surry Co., VA
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:54:35 EST
Forwarded Message
Reply to: STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
With Copy to: Jimmmmie@aol.com [James R. Rolff]
================ Begin forwarded message ================
From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: William Strong from "across the (James) River"
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 21:48:43 -0500 (EST)
...I went to the Virginia State Library and searched for the actual
records that are abstracted on page 8 of my book [STRONG
FAMILY OF VIRGINIA AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES]. I found these, and a few
more. These are much better records than what are on
page 8... These records are all in the 1650s and 1660s, so I must have
searched to a certain year and quit because I was no longer finding
any Strongs. These records mention the mill that William Strong
owned in Surry Co. Later, Jack Grantham sent me records from
LDS microfilm #034098, Surry Co., Va., Records: Deeds, Wills, and
Inventories (1684-1686). There are several records ..., but I will only
transcribe one here:
p30: "Thomas Sowersby aged about 50 examined and sworn saith
during the time that Wareneck mill belonged to Wm Strong, one
Thomas Ironmonger who kept the said mill for the said Strong lived
in a house aboute tenn yards from mill house at Wareneck and
thereof and that the said Strong when he was on this side of the
river lived in it and that Ellis Vauter who bought the said mill
of the said Strong lived in the said house also all the time he
owned the said mill and that Strong and Vauter always accounted
the house theire owne as belonging to the said ---- as it was also
esteemed by thi deponent and all others he ever heard discourse
the same and further sayth not.
Sign. Thomas T. Sowersby.
Sworne in cort mrch 3 1684 Major Swann being present.
Test. William Edwards Cl Cur."
When I told you about this I said that it said William Strong lived
across the river in James City County. I was wrong about that, but
obviously it infers that William Strong spent much of his time on
the other side of the river, which would be either James City County
or Charles City County. William Strong is on record in both of those
other counties, and I believe that all are the same William Strong or
we could be dealing with a Sr. and Jr. I think the records of Surry
Co. should be more thoroughly searched, because there may be
more. Maybe in records after 1686 John Strong (1) [of New Kent
County, VA, late 1690s] could even appear. Actually, I think that
with all these earliest records we should stop depending on
someone else's abstracts and search the originals.
Jimmmmie
=============== End forwarded message ===============
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs of Marblehead, MA
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:54:35 EST
Greetings, DICK PARKER and ALL NEW ENGLAND
STRONG FAMILY RESEARCHERS:
Dick: To what does the "VR" in your message refer?
Dick: Did you receive any response to your posting
of 19 JAN 97, a copy of which I have appended
below?
ALL: Can anyone offer assistance to Dick? I don't
recall seeing any replies to his message of 19 JAN 97.
Don't we have a couple of folks in our discussion group
who have connections at Marblehead, MA, or who know
some good resource materials concerning the Strongs
at Marblehead, Massachusetts.
Dick: In a note to me on 20 JAN 97 you stated:
"I'm just an interested family researcher, not a genealogist,
and don't want to waste anyones's time." All of us on the
Strong Mail List are just amateur family historians and, to
my knowledge, there is not a professional genealogist
among us. You are certainly not wasting anyone's time by
posting queries about your Strong connection or asking
questions or giving constructive criticism or just being
supportive of others in their efforts. The bit of data you
have to share may be the missing piece in some else's
puzzle. Our goal is to help and assist each other. Never
hesitate to request help from the group.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
================Begin forwarded message ================
From: Dick Parker
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Wm Strong of Marblehead
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:12:39 -0800
Message-ID: <9888C4FD3@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
In reviewing the Marblehead VR to 1850 I find two listings
for his wife Susannah Besome. On pg 42 she is apparently
baptized on 28 Aug 1768 and 13 Sep 1772.
Is the first one a birth ?
Dick Parker
================ End forwarded message =================
Reply-To: dparker@ma.ultranet.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:49:02 -0800
Subject: Strong: MA
I'm new to this list and family research in general.
My family line goes back to a George Strong and
Jane Misservy of Marblehead, MA, circa 1740's.
I am interseted in researching this line in more
detail and would appreciate any pointers regarding
sources. Is there a good source in Marblehead or
Salem on the Strong Line? If not, what would anyone
recommend as a starting point?
Thanx, Dick Parker
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: New Subscriber
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:54:35 EST
Last week I was contacted by an old friend and
collaborator, James Robert Rolff, who authored
the book STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA AND OTHER
SOUTHERN STATES. "Jim" is now online with a
modem and a subscription to America Online. His
Internet E-Mail addesss is .
I have invited Jim to join our discussion group
and he has indicated that he will join us this
week, probably on Wednesday, 26 JAN. [Jim's
subscription was delayed due to the MAISER
Listserver being offline for several days.]
Jim is the Numero Uno authority on the descendants
of William Strong, Sr., of Hanover County, VA. Several
members of our discussion group definitely belong to
this Strong Clan, and several other subscribers possibly
belong the this family, too.
Jim has expressed to me that he believes that John Strong,
Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, VA, late 1690s,
was descended from Strongs who were earlier in Virginia.
That is, it is his opinion that this John Strong was not an
immigrant, which I have stated in my own opinion. I expect
we will having a civil debate of this issue on the STRONG
Mail List.
Jim posesses a great wealth of knowledge about the
early immigrants and early settlers in Virginia and
Maryland named Strong, Strang, Strange, Straughan,
etc. You are encouraged to use his knowledge by
asking questions, posting your bits of information about
this period, etc.
Those of you who are not from the Virginia Strongs need
to continue discussing your own families. I do not want
you to feel "left out" but I, personally, am not an authority
on your families from Canada, New England, Midwest, South
Carolina, etc. You, yourselves, are the authorities on you
own lineages. Ignore Jim and me and carry on your
own discussions.
Cordial best wishes to each and all!!
Bob Strong
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Advisory from Larry V. Stephens (General Manager, Surname Lists)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:31:13 EST
Dear Strong Searchers:
Larry Stephens has made the changeover in his computer
program that handles the Surname Lists.
Digests were field tested this week, with mixed reception.
The reaction depends mainly on the software program the
receiver uses: whether it is MIME compliant or not, whatever
that means. The reaction also depends upon which Internet
E-Mail service is being used, as some, such as JUNO, which I
use, set an arbitrary limit on the size of a file that can be
transmitted or received. For JUNO the size limit is about
20,000 KB, which is not very large.
Digests are primarily useful to persons who are on Lists that
have many subscribers and much daily mail. Essentially,
as I understand the concept, the Digest Mode allows your
to scan an index of messages to determine which ones you
wish to read. You only read the ones you select to read.
That's the way I read FidoNet messages from genealogy
conferences, where I may receive several hundred messages
per day. I just scan the index of SUBJECT lines and pick out
the very few that I actually read. That works great for the
Social.Genealogy.Surname [Roots Surname] List, for example,
where there is a highly standardized format for Subject lines
which includes the Surname, Location or Migration Route,
and a date or range of dates. [I recommend that we follow
this format whenever possible, but have not been rigidly
requiring that format.] There are ususally from 100 to 200
messages posted on the Social.Genealogy.Surname List,
an Internet Mail List, daily.
Please give me your feedback regarding whether you are
interested in receiving the Strong Mail List in Digest Mode
on a periodic or aperiodic basis, (rather than receiving each
and every message independently). If anyone on our List
wishes to receive messages in Digest Mode, I must make a
decision to have Digests prepared every xx number of hours,
OR whenever the file reaches xxx size in kilobytes. The
latter makes more sense for JUNO users, like me and several
other of the subscribers to the Strong Mail List. Set for a
size limit, the receipt of the Digests would be aperiodic,
that is, not on a regular time schedule. That further means
that mail from the List might not reach you until several days
after it was posted.
With a small Mail List like ours, I am doubtful that the Digest
Mode will really save anyone any time. If your Message
Reader is anything like mine (JUNO), you already receive an
index of the messages in your Inbox and have the option of
reading or not reading each message. With JUNO you have
an option of sorting the message index alphabetically by subject,
alphabetically by sender's E-Mail name, chronologically by date
of the message, or by message status (new--not read, read,
replied, forwarded).
ALSO, notice in Larry's message that no messages were
archived at MAISER for about 3 1/2 weeks. That's unfortunate
timing, as about the first of February I subdivided my big
Strong file into many smaller files, which makes it more
difficult for me to find a message or all the messages that
were posted on a given date. But if you need a copy of a
message that was posted during this period, let me know and
I will attempt to locate a copy for you. I may go ahead and
create a file folder for this 3 1/2 week period and reconstruct
the archive locally. Or we could each repost the substantive
messages we sent to the STRONG Mail List from about 30
JAN to 25 FEB, which will get them into the MAISER archives.
Or we can do both. [Please label RE-POSTS as such in the
Subject Line.]
Since the weather in Alabama is rainy and dreary today,
meaning I won't be mowing the lawn, etc., I may get back to
reposting some earlier messages as I continue my re-filing
project. Most of the messages posted in December, 1996,
were re-posted a short time back.
Have a Gread Day!!!
Bob Strong
=============== Begin forwarded message ================
From: "Larry Stephens"
To: "List owners@rmgate advisory messages"
Subject: (LVS) good news, bad news
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:30:30 GMT-0500 (EST)
The good news is everything seems to be running smoothly.
Digests are turned on. I'm trying to work through my mail (I'm at least
150 personal messages behind) to see who wants what changed. I'll get to
it ASAP.
Remember, I recommend owners not go on digest, or go on both if you want
to keep track of your digests. If you're not on mail, too much can go
wrong without you being aware of it. Let me know if the digests pose any
problems.
Keep in mind, though, some people won't have MIME compliant readers.
These digests are a trade-off. For those that they work for, they're
great. They eliminate everything I hate about digests. You get an index,
you hit enter on the item you want, and you jump right to it. You jump
back to the index when you're done reading it.
If they don't work for you, you get no index and a ton of unneeded
headers.
Now, the bad news.
I just found a programming error in the routine that sets up the master
file here. Because of that, archives were not being created. I was
sending them to never-never land. As near as I can tell at this point, it
started the last day or two of January, I have it fixed now.
All archives before that date are okay and they should be okay from today
on (I'll check tomorrow).
(Please don't confuse a brief answer from me with an unfriendly
answer. I answer a lot of messages each week, so I usually get
right to the point.)
Larry Stephens (LVS@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu)
Indiana University Office of Risk Management
400 E. 7th Room 705, Bloomington, IN 47405
812-855-9758
=============== End forwarded message ===============
---------- End of message ----------
From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: James Strong of Kentucky
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:04:39 +0000
My recent search for information of a James Strong of Ozark County, MO,
is at and end. The 1870 Federal census proves that James Strong is the
father of Daniel W. Strong and that James was born in Kentucky sometime
around 1844.
Anybody with any info on James or any Kentucky Strongs, please let me
know where to start looking. Dave, I know your family comes from there.
Thanks alot,
Tom Mathews
Oakley, CA
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Size Limit on JUNO Messages
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:11:42 EST
OOPS, GOOFED AGAIN!!!
Larry Stephens said on Thursday, 27 FEB:
"Let me remind everyone [who is a List Manager], I can set
the trigger [for Digest Mode] at any level you want. It is
supposed to default at 24K; I'm not sure how it measures
that..."
It is my understanding, Carl, that the limit on messages
transmitted from or to JUNO subscribers is 20 KB (20,000
bytes). I tend to be a bit wordy and long winded, but
don't think I have ever exceeded the 20 KB for one
message. But in Digest Mode a packet of messages is
sent out with an index attached. Similar to a QWK
packet on FidoNet Bulletin Boards. I don't believe
MAISER compresses the files before transmission,
though, as in done with QWK packets on Fidonet
Bulletin Boards.
Yes, I agree: 20,000,000 bytes is a large file!
I am glad to hear from you, Carl. How did you see my
message to the Strong Mail List when you are not shown
as a subscriber to the List as of today?
James Rolff is joining our Strong Discussion Group as
soon as we can get MAISER to accept his subscription.
I just sent an ADD command, since SUB wasn't working
for Jim.
Hope you join us, too, Carl. I believe I previously sent
instructions for subscribing. If you attempt to subscribe
and have problems, let me know, please.
P. S.: Can you explain this address to me in a private
reply? I know I am a bit visually challenged lately, but....
"To: BlindCopyReceiver:;"
Bob Strong
--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: Carl Cason
To: BlindCopyReceiver:;
Subject: Advisory from Larry V. Stephens
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:38:32 -0500
>> transmitted or received. For JUNO the size limit is about
>> 20,000 KB, which is not very large.
Did you mean 20 KB? 20,000 KB is 20 megs! I think that is VERY large
for a message.
Carl Cason, in Bothell, Washington
email: ccason@compuserve.com
--------- End forwarded message ----------
---------- End of message ----------
From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Hi
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:01:56 -0500 (EST)
This is my first time on here. Will somebody tell me that my message got
through, so that I'll know it works before I type several pages. Thank you.
Jimmmmie@aol.com
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: SUBSCRIBERS to STRONG Mail List, 28 FEB 97
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:45:03 EST
>From the keyboard of Bob Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way
Madison, AL 35758-7113
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
*********************************************************************
ROBERT'S RAMBLINGS
Not many replies have been received about the
Digest Mode now available. Here are the comments
that have been received thus far: total of one.
Carl Cason, who has a new E-Mail address,
< ccason@compuserve.com > also asked for further
explanation.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I like the scattered individual messages so long as the
writer indicates which state the Strong is from. In that
case, I am able to eliminate the non-Southern and
non-Midwestern Strongs that are not relevant to the
Chester Co, SC, Strongs.
Thanks.
Tom Weir < weir@u.washington.edu > (206)747-8480
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I receive no information this week that some of you
desire to receive Digests, then I will not requst that
option for the STRONG Mail List and will revise the
Welcome Message to delete references to Digest Mode.
If you know a Strong, etc., researcher who is not
already subscribed, please send then an invitation to
join us, to learn about our families, and to share
information about their families.
You are invited to resubmit any queries or lineages that
have not been posted in the past month. Just please
begin the Subject Line of these messages with "Re-Post:"
In your Subject Line include, if possible, Who, Where,
and When.
Have a Happy Month of March! Winter is almost over in
Dixie!
================================================
The Directory for Archived Messages is still not functioning
properly at the MAISER List Server, so I will continue this
little update until it becomes operational. If you request
a Directory of archived messages for the Strong Mail List
you will receive an error message indicating the file
either does not exist or is "locked". The directories have
apparently been "locked" for the past couple of months.
DATES SINCE 8 DEC 96 WHEN THERE WAS NO PUBLIC MAIL
ON THE STRONG MAIL LIST. Do NOT request archived
mail for these dates.
25 and 27 DEC 96
7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 31 JAN 97.
1-25 FEB 97 (Not archived. Request via message to me.)
27 FEB 97
The syntax for obtaining archived messages for the STRONG
List from the MAISER List Server address is:
send YY-MM-DD.std
EXAMPLE:
send 97-01-30.std
exit
=================================================
CURRENT SUBSCRIBER LIST
Members of STRONG Mail List as of FRIDAY, 28 FEB 97
Current number of subscribers: 45
Welcome to New Subscribers This Week: 4
Helen@strange1.demon.co.uk
moss44@seark.net
Jimmmmie@aol.com [James Robert Rolff]
joerob@beaches.net
We look forward to our new subscribers introducing
themselves and their Strong, Strang, Strange,
Straughan, etc., family connections in the near future.
Please tell us Who, Where, and When about your
connections and you are also urged to post a descendancy
chart. Please also identify yourselves so that I can add
a name to your E-Mail address.
===============================================
Please report any corrections or additions to the Subscriber
List below to the List Manager. A migration route will be
added to your name and/or E-Mail address if you provide
that information.
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
=================================================
Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England]
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Other Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Gerry Strong)
Strongs of Scotland and Ireland and South Carolina
Charles Strong, b. Scotland, d. 1783 Ireland
Letitia Strong (b. 1766, Ireland-d. 1837, SC)
m. 1778 James STRONG, Jr. (b.1749, IRE -d.1829, SC)
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
Christopher Strong, b. 1760 IRE; d. 1850, Dickson Co., TN
lbetts@cphl.mindspring.com (Lowry Betts)
Strongs of Ireland and South Carolina
James Strong, Sr. b.1709 Ireland; d, 1779 Chester Co., SC
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Descendants of Return Strong (son of John) and Sarah Warham
Sarah Strong m. 1696 (Capt.) John Higley in Windsor, CT
WHigleyjr@aol.com (Wayne Higley, Jr.)
Possible descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
JBleaux@aol.com (Joe Ticknor Breeze)
[Tabitha Strong of Salisbury, Litchfield Co., CT
m. 1772 John Ticknor (or Tickner)]
dparker@ma.ultranet.com ( Dick Parker)
[George Strong of Marblehead, MA]
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
ATHACKNEY@aol.com (Allan T. Hackney)
[Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey]
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
[James STRONG b. 1727; d. 1804, York Co., PA:
Great Britain ? > PA > OH ]
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
[Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH]
Strongs of Central U.S.
unkletom@cctrap.com (Thomas Mathews)
James Strong, b. KY, about 1844
Daniel W. Strong of Gainesville, Ozark Co., MO
edwart@sdcpos3c.daytonoh.ncr.com [Teresa L. Edwards]
Nancy Jane Strong Fleetwood, d. 1898, Douglas Co., MO
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Jimmmmie@aol.com (James R. Rolff)
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John
Descendants of Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
ccason@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
DStrong155@aol.com (Dave Strong)
Descendants of Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC
and Lawrence Co., MS
ldooley@dexter.net (Leanne Dooley)
Descendants of unidentified Strongs of Rockingham Co., NC
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
STRAWN Family researchers:
JJStrawn@msn.com
STRANG Family researchers:
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W. Bratt)
[STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's]
Lineage unidentified or unknown or not clear.
Some subscribers have not posted their lineage.
hereford@cdc.net
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: James of KY
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:26:22 +0000
Dear James,
The 1880 census entry is definitely the same one. I have the 1860 census
report which has:
Strong, James 26
Bertha 25 (I have records that he remarried in the 1870s)
Henry H 5
Daniel W 2
Jesse C 2
Rebecca C 1
I would definitely be interested in your Owlsey Co. James. Do you have
other ancestors of his?
I will check the 1860 Ozark County census to see if it has James living
with his parents. He did not marry until 1862.
Thanks for the help.
TOM
Jimmmmie@aol.com wrote:
>
> 1880 Ozark Co., Mo., Richland
> James Strong born Ky
> Sarah A. wife 30 born Mo
> Henry son 15
> Jessie son 13
> Daniel son 13
> Polly A. son 11
> James son 10
> Taylor son 9
> Nancy daughtet 8
> Thomas son 7
> Joseph son 6
> Ruth A.E. daughter 1
>
> In my book I have a James Strong born 1842, parents Henry and Polly Strong in
> Owsley Co., Ky. What makes this family look promising is that they also have
> a son named Taylor, age 2 on the 1850 census. Jimmmmie@aol.com
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Surry Co., Va. Court Orders
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:41:00 -0500 (EST)
Through the years I have found three different sets
of the same group of Strong records in early Surry
County, Virginia. The first set appears on page 8
of my book. The second set was sent to this group
by Robert Strong recently. The second set is much
better than the first set. The third set is even better,
because I copied it word for word from the original
at the Virginia State Library. Here is the third and
best set:
SURRY COUNTY, VIRGINIA COURT ORDERS
Know all men by these presents that I Thomas
Strong Doe constitute and ordeine William Bishler(?)
my attorney ffor to acknowledge a deed of 500
pounds of tobarkoe and costs for the use of Mr.
Theodrick Bland in Surry Co. Gent. a witness my
hand this 25th of April 1657. Tho. Strong. Witnesses
William Cookin, Samuel Cornell. Record: die p2 dict.
Know all mem by these presents that whereas I Tho:
Strong was the last Court Holden at Southwark for
the Co of Surry sued by Mr. Theodrick Bland Mrcht.
for 345 pounds of tobo and caske Dne by hire and
obtained order agt me for the same with costs upon
wch order executionissued against my body now
know ye that I the sd Strong for the better security
of the sd sum and of the costs as appears by acct
on the backside of these presents which in all make
500 lbs of tobo the principal only with caske doe by
these presents bind and make over unto the sd Mr
Bland all my Crope or Croppes both of Corns
tobarkoe or wat else I should make this present
year and doe bind myself my heirs Executor
Administrator or asignees not to meddle dispose
or Connst of same or any prcell or part thereof to
any other uses or uses whatsoever until the sd
Mr.Bland be fully pd and satisfied and I doe oblige
myself to acknowledge this to be my Real act and
deed inopen Court in Surry Co and to have it
recorded Witness my hand and seale. Dated this
1st March 1657. Signed sealed and delivered in
presence of us Will: Allen Willyan Cookin Samuel
Cornell. Tho: Strong the seale in red Wax I. Record
5th May 1657
Know all men by these presents that I Wm Stronge
doe ffor mr my heyres executors and admas ffor
ever acquit claim unto Na: Stanton his heyres
executors admas all and all manner off actions suits
debts decotors(?) accompts conditions and demands
whatsoever from the beginning of the world unto the
day of the date hereof. Witt my hand this 1st of Jany
1661. Signed Wm Strong. Witt: Tho: Hint. Re: Nurse.
Recorded pd Jany 1661
Know all men by these presents that I Will Strong doe
constitute and appoint my well beloved friend Jno
Leake to be my Attor and doe hereby my sd Attor
to bring judgement all such Action in Surry County
which(?) as should appeare to be due to me this I
doe acknowledge to be my Act and deed as will my
hand this 13th of Jan 1662. The Marke of Will Strong.
Witnesse: Jno fford. Recorded the 20th of ffeb 1662
Know all men by these presents that wee Wm Strong
and --------(left blank) are bound and firmly oblidged
unto al soverogne Ld the King in the some or penalty
of 5000 pounds Tob: and Caske to be pd upon
demand unto wch payment will and truly to be md
and done we bind up and either of us our either of our
heirs excur Admrs jointly and severally firmly by these
presents with our hands and seales. Dated this 4th of
9ber 1663. The condition of this obligation is such that
if the above bound Wm Strong shall from time to time
and at all times will behave himselfe toward all his
Majesties Leige peopell and more especially toward
Edward Bushell that then this present obligation to
be void will and of none effect otherwise to stand and
Remaine in full force power and virtue. Signed sealed
and delv in presence of Ro: Stanton. Signum: Wm:
Strong. Record 50 gbus(?) 1663
Know all men by these presents that we Wm Strong
and Henry Brigs are bound and ffirmly oblidged to
our sovereign Lord the King in the ( ) (?)
on penalty of 10000 pounds of tobb and Caske to be
paid upon demand wch payment well and truly to
be made over in bind us and every of us and either
of our heirs ecexr Admr. Joyntely and severally
firmly by these presents witness our hand this 3
May 1664. The condition of this obligation is such
that if the above bounden Wm Strong shall behave
himselfe towards all his Majties Leige people more
especially toward the right marshle Courte of Surry
Co. then this present obligation to be void and of
none effect otherwise to stand and remaine in full
force power and virtue. Signed and delivered in
presence of Edward Bushell Joh: Gettings. Wm
Strong his marke Henry Brigs. recorded 11th May
1664. P Geo Warken cl records
These presents do testify that I Willia Strong doe
institute apoynt and ordaine my trusty and well
beloved freind Luke Messell to acknowledge and
confess and true surrendr make of that Mill
sittuated lying and being in the Co of Surry wch
I the sd Wm Strong did purchase of Joh. Rawlings
from him and his heirs unto me and my heirs for
ever with the appurtenances thereto belonging
and therefore lett itt be knowne and understood
that I the sd Strong doe institute and apoynt the
above sd Luke Messell to be my whole sole
attorney to acknowledge and confess in my name
and for and in my behalfe that I the sd Wm Strong
have Allinated bargained and sold unto Ellis Vanter
the aforesaid Mill with the appurtanances thereunto
belonging and to him and his heirs for ever and doe
alsoe acknowledge that assignment that I have mad
unto Ellis Vanter on the patten or Lease of the sd Mill
is my own act and deed with the true and reall right
posetion thereof. Witness my hand this 21st April
1665. The marke of Wm Strong Witness William
Bukled(?) Henry Daves. Acknowledge in Court by
the sd Messell 2d May 1665 and recorded 11 May
1665. Test. Geo Watkins cl
from Jimmmmie@aol.com
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From: "norma s. russie"
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: JOHN WILLIAM STRAUGHAN
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 14:00:32 -0500
I am searching for any information on the family of JOHN
WILLIAM STRAUGHAN, born December 20, 1842 in England. I have copies of
Company D 41st Regiment of Virginia Infantry muster roll and Johb
William was conscripted into the Confederate Army June 15th,1861, for a
period of 12 months. He left in 1862, refusing to reenlist because he
claimed citizenship of England. He married MARTHA ELLEN PURDY about 1863
in Richmond Va. She was the daughter of a Rev. War patriot, I also have
DAR papers on the Purdys. My grandfather JOHN AARON STRAUGHAN was born
Sep. 1, 1873 at Clover Hill Va. He married ROSE HENDRICKS the great
grand niece of Vice President THOMAS A. HENDRICKS {1884], and she was
born in Joppa Illinois, 1873. Is anyone researching any of this line of
Straughans? It seems that this would be easy but no contacts. This is
what happens when your grandparents are so much older when you are born
and no one cared a few years ago.
Norma Straughan Russie
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STRAUGHAN/PURDIE-PURDY/ *
HENDRICKS/YOUNG *
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: James Strong
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:13:43 -0500 (EST)
Hi Tom(unkletom@cctrap.com);
I got your message, and the answer is that I do have a lot of
information in my
book about the Henry and Polly Strong family of Owsley Co., Ky, ancestors,
etc., and it appear that your James Strong of Ozark Co., Mo. is from that
family, because
in 1850 Henry does have a son named James 8 yrs. old, like your James born
1842, and the real grabber is that Henry also has a son named Taylor, as also
does
your James on the 1880 census of Ozark Co., Mo. I could sell you a book for
$35,
or if you don't want to go that way you can do real well in Owsley Co., Ky
records, and Breathitt Co., Ky before that. Also, I have Henry on the 1880
census of Douglas
Co., Mo.. Jimmmmie@aol.com(James R. Rolff, 152-3A Pine Knoll Dr., Battle
Creek, Mi. 49014)
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Surry County, Virginia Court Orders
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:23:01 -0500 (EST)
This morning I sent Surry County, Virginia
Court Orders, the latest one being from 1665.
Apparently I continued searching until I
became convinced that there would be no
more Strong records. Later Jack Grantham
sent me the following additional records:
SURRY COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS, WILLS,
AND INVENTORIES (1684-1686)
(From LDS microfilm #034098)
p29 George Foster, aged aboute 46 yrs examined
& sworne saith that Ellis Vauters lived in a house
about tenn yards from Wareneck Mill on the
Wareneck end of the said mill in wch house he
lived all the time he lived in this county & owned
the aforesaid mill, to the best of this deponts
remembrance and further sayth not. Sworn in
cort march 3d 1684. Test. William Edwards Cl Cur.
George Ffoster
Thos. Ironmonger aged aboute 49 yrs examined &
sworne saith that the depont doth well remember
that during the time the Wareneck Mill belonged
to Mr. Richard Webster, he the sd Webster caused
a house to be built at the Wareneck end of the said
mill aboute tenn yards from the said mill which mill
afterwards was purchased by one Wm. Strong for
whom the depont kept the said mill one yre, and
lived in the said house which mill was by the said
Strougs(sic) sould to one Ellis Vauters who all the
time he kept the said mill lived in the above said
house, which house was by ye depont while he
lived in it accounted Wm Strougs(sic) for whom he
kept her and afterwards Ellis Vauters to whom
she was sould & further sayth not. Thos Ironmonger
(On the backside of the above was written)
The within named Tho Ironmonger being sworn to
testifye his knowledge in a difference betweene
Mr Robert Randall pltf & Major Swann, defendt
made oath to the within said and being asked
by Major Swann if he knew who Mr. Webster
sould if another meantioned mill to answered
to Coll: Swann and who Coll: Swann sould
her to answered to J.W.Rawlings & Capt.
Pittman & that Capt Pittman sould his prte
to Major Marriott & Major Mariott & Rawlings
sould her to Wm Strong who sold her to Ellis
Vauter and Vauter to Babb, and being asked
by Major Swann answered that he knew that
Ellis Vauter did tend and clear a garden upon
this west side of the mill. Mch 3rd, 1684 Test
William Edward Cl Cur
p30 Thomas Sowersby aged about 50 years
examined and sworn saith during the time that
Wareneck mill belonged to Wm Strong, one
Thomas Ironmonger who kept the said mill
for the said Strong lived in a house aboute tenn
yards from Mill house at Wareneck and thereof
and that the said Strong when he was on this
side of the river lived in it and that Ellis Vauter
who bought the said mill of the said Strong
lived in the said house also all the time he
owned the said mill & that the Strong & Vauter
always accounted the house theire owne as
belonging to the said ---- as it was also
Eesteemed by this deponent and all others
he ever heard discourse the same and further
saith not. Sworne in cort mrch 3 1684 Major
Swann being present Test. William Edward Cl
Cur. Sign Thomas T. Sowersby
(further notes by Jack Grantham)
Also note: Thomas Andrews, age 76, gave
testimony. Mentions Wm. Strong.
John Mooring said Wm. Strong owned mill.
Date 3 Mar 1684
From Jimmmmie@aol.com
I find here one very important phrase, when
Thomas Sowersby says: "that the said Strong
when he was on this side of the river lived in it"
This is an indication that the usual residence
of William Strong was north of the James River,
that is in James City County or Charles City
County. There are William Strong records in
both those counties even though the records
surviving are sparse. I contend that the William
Strong of all three mentioned counties are the
same person, with principal residence in James
City County. The above mentioned phrase is
really not enough proof on it's own that William
Strong did not much live in Surry County, so
I will present more:
1. In the other set of Surry Co. records that I
sent this morning please note that on two
occasions William Strong had to name an
attorney to take care of his business in Surry
County.
2. In a book I have "Colonial Surry", by John
B. Boddie, are transcribed the Surry County
Lists of Tithables for the years 1668, 1674,1678,
1683, 1688,1694, 1698. In none of these is any
Strong named, although William Strong's
attorneys consistantly appear.
I believe this very well indicates that the Strongs
were not really Surry Co. residents, but rather
that they had business and social interests
there. You might also note that Thomas Strong
also named an attorney to take care of Surry
County business. Later I will present evidence
to show that the William Strong of James City
County and the William Strong of Charles City
County were the same person also.
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From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: TROUP CO., GA. STRONGS
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 11:22:10 -0800
Hi!
I just received some interesting news from a "cousin" that I thought I'd
share with the group, and hope for some additional help from you.
Ann Thompson STRONG m. 1 Dec 1819, GA to Ebenezer NEWTON, b. 20 Jun 1790
in Wilkes Co., GA and d. 27 Aug 1859 in Troup Co., GA. I have
no dates for Ann Strong Newton.
Peninah STRONG m. Josiah NEWTON, who was b. 12 Oct 1787, Oglethorpe Co.,
GA.
Both Josiah & Ebenezer Newton were sons of Rev. John Newton. Rev.
Newton's daughter was Cynthia Newton who m. Robert Hall and
resided in Troup Co., GA. Their daughter Cynthia Hall m. CALVIN
J. ANDREWS, b. 1819. Cynthia died after a few years of marriage,
and widower Calvin J. Andrews moved to HOLMES CO., MS and married
in 1849, Mary Sharp MARTIN, daughter of ALEXANDER STRONG MARTIN,
son of ELIZABETH STRONG of Rockingham Co., NC., formerly Mrs.
THOMAS STRONG of Pittsylvania Co., VA.
This is my very convoluted way of trying to see whether there would be
any relatively close connection to these Troup Co. Strong-Newtons,
Andrews and ultimately Alexander Strong Martin that would cause Andrews
to leave all his family in GA and move to Holmes Co., MS (apparently all
by himself) and within the year "find" and marry Alexander Strong
Martin's daughter. Are his first wife's Strong aunts just a coincidence?
The "cousin" who sent me this is from Calvin's first wife, who is
researching the Newton family; and I'm descended from Calvin's 2nd wife,
and thus my Martin / Strong family. Hope someone has ancestry of Peninah
and Ann Thompson Strong. If you need Newton data, let me know.
Francie Lane flane@otn.net
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: James Strong
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 11:38:27 +0000
James,
I will definitely be interested in getting your book once I have
satisfied myself that this is the correct James. I admit it looks good
but there is a slight age discrepancy (not insurmountable). The 1860
census records have James as claiming to be 26 years old on the census
date (June 1, 1860). If that is accurate, he would have been born June
2, 1843, at the earliest. I will look into it a little more.
Thanks, Tom
Jimmmmie@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi Tom(unkletom@cctrap.com);
> I got your message, and the answer is that I do have a lot of
> information in my
> book about the Henry and Polly Strong family of Owsley Co., Ky, ancestors,
> etc., and it appear that your James Strong of Ozark Co., Mo. is from that
> family, because
> in 1850 Henry does have a son named James 8 yrs. old, like your James born
> 1842, and the real grabber is that Henry also has a son named Taylor, as also
> does
> your James on the 1880 census of Ozark Co., Mo. I could sell you a book for
> $35,
> or if you don't want to go that way you can do real well in Owsley Co., Ky
> records, and Breathitt Co., Ky before that. Also, I have Henry on the 1880
> census of Douglas
> Co., Mo.. Jimmmmie@aol.com(James R. Rolff, 152-3A Pine Knoll Dr., Battle
> Creek, Mi. 49014)
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: James Strong
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 15:47:16 -0500 (EST)
Tom;
Does this fit your James: James M. "Jim" son of Henry H. and Mary
(Hickman) Strong born in Ky in 1841 was married to Ruthie Jane Upton
Aug 3, 1862 in Ozark Co., Mo. During the Civil war he was shot several
times and left for dead, by bushwackers that roamed the hill. He was
cared for by the Upton family and later married the daughter. He married
Sarah Davis July 13, 1879 etc.........
If so, I also have a 39 page history of the Henry Harrison Strong family
that I will send to you if you will copy it and send it back. This thing has
been in the mail several times. Jimmmmie@aol.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Wm. Strong, James City Co., VA, Wahrani [Diascund] Creek
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 18:57:54 EST
TO: All Strong Searchers, Virginia Branch
My memory needs an overhaul or replacement!
I thought I had posted some information about
William Strong of James City County, but I can
not find a copy of the message, so I guess I am
mistaken. So, in anticipation of some data that
Jim Rolff will be posting about William Strong of
Surry County, VA, indicating he was possibly the
same William Strong from James City County,
I will post what can be gleamed from the
following source about this William Strong.
I strongly agree with Jim Rolff that original records
should be utilized whenever possible. In this case,
though, I do not have access to the original records,
so must depend for now on published abstracts of the
originals.
If you do not want to wade through all the details,
scroll till you see WILLIAM STRONG(E) in block capitals.
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SOURCE:
Nell Marion Nugent, Virginia Land Office, Richmond,
Virginia, Abstractor. CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS:
ABSTRACTS OF VIRGINIA LAND PATENTS AND GRANTS.
Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Volume I: 1623-1666, (c) 1963
Volume II: 1666-1695
Volume III: 1695-1732, (c) 1979
Volume IV:
These volumes include excellent full name and place
name indices, compiled by Ms. Nugent.
The original records, on microfilm, are available
at the Virginia State Library and Archives in Richmond,
VA. I have some notes, for example, which I made
from "Virginia State Land Office, Counties 25, Nansemond,
New Kent, Northampton, Nottoway, Nelson. Index and
Abstracts of Patents and Grants." Call Number 929.355.
Some of the Patent Books on this roll were not indexed.
All William Strong references are not abstracted below.
Only those that appeared to be in or near James City
County, VA.
A number of these records are reported here to establish
the location where William Strong resided and to identify
his neighbors and heirs, if possible.
If this message is truncated in transmission please let me
know and I will repost it via another E-Mail provider. My
signature line should be at the bottom of the message
================================================
21 MAY 1638, Patent Book 1, Part II, page 534.
Abstracted in C & P I, page 83.
Joseph Harmon was granted 800 acres in James City County
located on the west side of Chickahominy River "being the
next land on this side to Pease Hill Marsh, Easternly upon
the River opposite to Warrany Creek..."
This is the earliest reference I found in C & P to Warrany
Creek.
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9 NOV 1638, Patent Book 1, Part II, page 603
Abstracted in C & P I, page 98
William Taylor, 1200 acre grant on Chickahominy River,
James City County, VA, "beginning at the next point of
land above Warrany Landing Place," southwesternly "upon
said River", northeasternly "upon the main woods[,[ and
Warrany Creek on the North."
Second reference to Warrany Creek.
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26 SEP 1638, Patent Book !, Part II, page 600
Abstracted in C & P I, page 97
John Jackson and Elizabeth Kingsmill [Kingsmell], now the
wife of William Taylor, 600 acres, James City County, VA,
....[adjacent] Mr. Bridges Freeman, ...John Dansey...Mr. John
Felgate.
One later record, possibly of a descendant, says "Dancie".
A 1682 record puts Dancie on the north side Chickahiminy
River near Tinslie. In 1686 John Dancy was granted land
adjacent Tinsley on the west side of the Chickahominy.
Dancy was in same nighborhood with Richard and John
Williams. See below.
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28 SEP 1638 [Re-grant], Patent Book i, Part II, page 601
Originally granted 23 DEC 1635
Abstracted in C & P I, page 98
Mr. Robert Felgate, 1200 acres upon the Checkeroes Neck,
NNW upon the River, and from the Landing Place...
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15 NOV 1638, Patent Book I, Part II, page 605
Abstracted in C & P I, page 99
Thomas Clipwell, 600 acres, James City County, VA, in
Chickahominy River...Between land of Richard Bell
and Theodore Moyses, NE over against the land of
John Dansey...
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10 FEB 1638 [1639 New Style], Patent Book 1, Part II, page 608
Abstracted in C & P I, pages 99-100
Georg Lobb, Thomas Perce (Pierce), and Thomas Warne,
1550 acres in Chickahominy River, James City County, VA,
Beginning next to land of William Taylor...opposite...Richard
Pierce.
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26 NOV 1635, Patent Book 1, Part I, page 320.
Abstracted in C & P I, pare ???
William Barker, Mariner, John Sadler, Richard Queying or
Quyening, Merchants, and their Associates and Company,
1250 acres, Charles City County, VA, for transporting 25
persons, including WILLIAM STRANGE.
Compare the next item.
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12 FEB 1638 [1639 New Style], Patent Book 1, Part II, page 609
Abstracted in C & P I, page 100
William Barker, Mariner, his Associates and Company, 1850 acres,
Charles City County, VA. 600 acres of said land being heretofore
called by the name of Powelbrooke and now known by the name
of Merchants Hope. Said land beginning at a Creek that parts it
from Salters Hill, extending to the water side near under the
house of one Richard Williams.
[Land was apparently inherited by Thomas Powell of Howlton,
Suffock County (VA? or ENG?), brother and hier-at-law of
Capt. Nathaniel Powell, deceased. Thomas Powell sold to
John Taylor, "Citizen and Girdler of London", who sold the
land to Barker and Associates.]
Another 1250 acres, apparently joining the 600 acres above,
for transporting 25 persons, including WILLIAM STRAING.
[This record suggests that William "Straing" was an immigrant
to the Virginia Colony. It does not prove whether he immigrated
from the British Isles or from another Colony.]
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4 APR 1642 (two deeds), Patent Book 1, Part II, pages 740, 742
Abstracted in C & P I, page 125
William and Elizabeth Taylor, of Chikiake, convey 600 acres
adjacent Bridges Freeman, John Dansy, and John Felgate,
to John Jackson.
William Taylor, Gentleman, of Chiskiake, in VA, conveyed
1200 acres at Warrany Landing Place to Ambrose Harmor
[Harmon?], Esquire, and Jane, his wife.
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7 JUN 1648, Patent Book 2, page 141
Abstracted in C & P I, page 175
William Barret(t), 700 acres, on the Eastermost side of Chicahominy
River, commonly called by the name of Warrany Old Town,
bounded by...Warrany Creek...Transporting 14 persons:...David
Philips.
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8 NOV 1653, Patent Book 3, page 51
Abstracted in C & P I, page 240
Joseph Croshaw, 1750 acres, York County, VA, "On South side of
York River, behind land of Capt. John West, called 'Cheemockin',
running by Black Creek, unto Croshaw's Extent. Transportation
of 25 persons...Villemile Hughes, Edward Tirrell [Terrell]...
John Fleming...
This is "snuck in" here because John Strong, Sr., of New Kent
County was affiliated with this Hughes family and with others
who resided on Black Creek, as was also Thomas Stanley, Sr.,
the grandfather of my ancestor, Anne Stanley Strong. Jim
Rolff may find the Hughes connection of interest. When my
Strongs relocated to Goochland County years later, they resided
at "Fleming's Parke," land that had been acquired by the Fleming
family and sold. Thomas Stanley was associated with the
Fleming family and Hughes family through the Society of Friends
(Quakers).
The plantation mentioned was still in operation when I motored
through this neighborhood in the early to mid-1980s.
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24 JAN 1655 (1666 New Style), Patent Book 4, page 5 (7).
Abstracted in C & P I, page 322
David Phillips, 600 acres, James City County, "On North side of
James River, Westerly side of Chickohominy River and NE side
of Moses his Creek, bounded NW on John Williams, and SE on
William Fry. Due by purchase from WILLIAM STRONGE.
I believe I once found evidence that the name of Mo(y)ses Creek
was changed to Morris Creek, which is now in New Kent
County. See below regarding Map. It is possible I inferred the
name change from studying the location of Mo(y)ses Creek and
comparing it to a contemporary map.
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6 FEB 1655 (1656 New Style), Patent Book 4, Page 6 (8)
Abstracted in C & P, page 323
William Fry, 252 acres, James City County, VA, "On North side of
James River, SE of Capt. Edloe's land and near William Haveat's
land. Original grant to Richard Hoe, who assigned to William
Craddock and Thomas Drinker, who sold to Fry.
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7 APR 1655, Patent Book 8, page 253
Abstracted in C & P II, page ??
Mr. John Williams, 818 acres, James City County, VA, 1692.
"100 acres part of 1330 acres assigned to said Richard
[Williams] by WILLIAM STRONG, 7 APR 1655."
John Williams was a son and heir-at-law of Richard Williams.
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24 JAN 1655 (1656 New Style), Patent Book 4, page 6 (8)
Abstracted in C & P I, page 323
John Williams, 600 acres, James City County, VA, "On
North side of James River, Westerly side of Chickahominy River,
NE side of Moses his Creek, NW of Richard Williams and SE on
David Phillips. By purchase from WILLIAM STRONGE.
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9 MAR 1655 (1656 New Style), Patent Book 4, page 7 (9)
Abstracted in C & P, page 323
This headright grant of 497 acres to Richard Hamlett in James City
County documents that the name of Warrany Creek was changed
to "Tyascun" Creek.
The above creek is shown on an official map of New Kent and
Charles City Counties, prepared by the Virginia Department of
Highways and Transportation, 1221 East Broad Street, Richmond,
Virginia 23219. The DIASCUND Creek is the border between
James City County on the east and New Kent County on the
west. There is a Wahrani Swamp that is a branch of the
Diascund Creek. So this William Strong owned land that was
just across the creek from New Kent County, VA. V-e-r-r-y
i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g!!! [with a German accent, of course.]
At its widest point, contemporary New Kent County is about
24 or 25 miles wide, east to west. We don't know for sure that
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County resided in this area of
"Old" New Kent County, which then stretched westward to
the mountains.
P. S.: The map shows Weyanoke to be in contemprary New
Kent County, whereas it was originally part of Charles City
County. There were Quaker Meeting Houses at Weyanoke
and on Black Creek.
Black Creek is shown in northwestern New Kent County. It
runs north into the Pamunkey River, which flows southeasternly
into the York River.
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24 JAN 1655 (1656 New Style), Patent Book 4, page 7 (10)
Abstracted in C & P, page 323
Richard Williams, 1550 acres, James City County, "800 acres
on NE side of Chicahominy River, SE on land of Capt. Barkly
and NW upon the Indian Swamp. 750 acres on SW side of the
head of said river, opposite the aforesaid tract, beginning at
a little creek the uppermost bounds of William Frye's land,
running to Naman's field, etc.,..."
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8 APR 1656, Patent Book 4, page 18 (28)
Abstracted in C & P I, page 327
Phillip Charles, 140 acres, [James City County], "upon the sourhern
most branch of Warreny Creek on the East side Chicahominy River,
bounded from corner tree of Mr. WILLIAM STRONG to marked
trees of Mr. [Henry?] Soanes...
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29 APR 1656, Patent Book 4, page 28 (44)
Abstracted in C & P I, page 330
William Fry, 750 acres, James City County, VA, west [sic] side of
Chickahiminy River...bordering on Richard Williams, John Williams,
and David Phillips.
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28 NOV 1656, Patent Book 4, page 76 (112)
Abstracted in C & P I, page 342
Mr. Richard Terrill [Terrell], 640 acres, New Kent County, VA, ...
running by a branch of Diascun Swamp...
Verifies that the Diascund Creek bordered New Kent County, VA,
and James City County, VA.
The Terrell family was also affiliated with the Thomas Stanley
family via the Society of Friends (Quakers).
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10 FEB 1657, Patent Book 4, page 168 (250)
Abstracted in C & P I, page ??.
Darcy Oatly, 350 acres, James City County, VA, north side of
James River, on main swamp adjacent Edward King [Knight?]
for transportation of himself and WILLIAM STRONGE and five
others.
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28 FEB 1658, Patent Book 4, page 254 (355)
Abstracted in C & P I, page 386
John Fleming, 250 acres, New Kent County, on south side of
York River....behind land of Reese Hughes.
Robert Hughes, a Quaker from New Kent County, was allowed headrights for
transporting John Strong and Reese Hughes, Jr.,
to Virginia. This name was often spelled Rice Hughes. I do not
know which is correct, but I suspect that Rice is correct: a
surname converted to a given name.
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28 FEB 1658 (1659 New Style), Patent Book 4, Page 257 (358)
Abstracted in C & P I, page 387
Charles Edmonds, [second grant, same date], 2750 acres, New Kent
County, VA, on North side of Diascunn SW and running by
Chickahominy Swamp..."4 Negroes--assigned by William Hughes
to John [or Jonothan] Davis and by him to Edmonds..."
Another conveyance showing Diascund Creek, formerly known as
Wahrani Creek, as border of New Kent County.
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17 MAR 1658 (1659 New Style), Patent Book 4, page 257 (358)
Abstracted in C & P, page 387
Philip Charles, 1690 acres, James City County, VA, 1550 acres in
Chickahominy River, beginning next to William Taylor and
running to a neckof land belonging to Richard Price; 140 acres
upon Southernmost branch of Warrany Creek on East side of
said River, from corner tree of land of WILLIAM STRONGE, along
trees of Mr. [Henry?] Soane, etc....
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16 APR 1683, Patent Book 7, page 264
Abstracted in C & P II, page 258
Edward Ellerby, 100 acres, James City County, VA,..From James
River, along line of Mrs. Nowell, etc., Part of 600 acres granted
to William Haveat, 20 OCT 1661, who bequeathed to WILLIAM
STRONG, 26 AUG 1663, who sold said 100 acres to Stephen Butts,
8 OCT 1675, who sold to said Ellerby.
This record proves that WIlliam Strong was alive on 8 OCT 1675.
William Haveat's land was said to have been "at the head of
Ward's Creek" in Charles City County in records dated 1642.
He was granted additional land on Ward's Creek in 1653, which
he sold in 1656. There was at least one change of the border
between James City County and Charles City County in
which land from Charles City County was annexed into
James City County...or vice versa.
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16 APR 1683, Patent Book 7, page 265
Abstracted in C & P, pages 258-259
"JOHN DOBY, 362 acres, James City County [VA], ...From James
River, along Edward Ellerby; to Drinkard's line; to head of a little
creek at Mount Sinai Bridge" [name of bridge uncertain] "and
down same to the River. Part of 600 acres granted to William
Haveat 20 OCT 1661, who by will dated 26 AUG 1663 bequeathed
to WILLIAM STRONG who on 30 JAN 1677" [1678 New Style] "sold
100 acres to Doby, and by will dated 28 AUG 1675, gave to
William and Hester Thomas, who on 1st AUG 1676 assigned to
said Doby."
These two records proves that William Strong died testate after
8 OCT 1675 and before 16 APR 1683, probably in James City
County, although the place of death was not clearly stated.
It is implied here that William Strong was the son-in-law of
William Haveat, but that was not clearly stated.
It is implied here that Mrs. Hester Thomas was a daughter of
William Strong, but that was not clearly stated.
No other heirs of William Strong have been proven. There
is no proof, as yet, that he had a son or sons.
The will of William Strong, or an abstract of the will of William
Strong, has not yet been found.
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Efforts should be made to secure complete transcripts of the last
two records, which might contain additional information.
Bob Strong
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: JOHN WILLIAM STRAUGHAN
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:58:35 EST
ATTENTION: Norma Straughan Russie
Your recent post to the Strong, et al., Mail List
was appreciated.
Hang in there and eventually we will have more
Straughan, Straughn, Strahan, Strawn, etc.,
subscribers. Don't give up because you don't
get a reply immediately.
Are you familiar with the Social.Genealogy.Surnames
Newsgroup on Internet? I would recommend you
post your query there also. If you need more
information about this Newsgroup, also referred to as
Roots-L(ist) or Roots Surname List (RSL), I will post it to
the Strong Mail List for ALL to see.
There is also a way to get the E-Mail addresses of
everyone on the RSL who has a current query about
the SURNAME you are researching. I posted this
about December, 1996. Let me know if you did not
see it. I may need to post it again for new subscribers.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Ann Tabitha Strong Newton and Penina(h) Strong Newton
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:58:35 EST
ATTENTION: Francie Lane
Do you have any proof that Ann Strong's middle name was
Thompson? I believe this middle name, Thompson, was an
error in DAR records.
In my notes on Strongs in Georgia I found this marriage
record, which I apparently made very early in my research
when I didn't make good records of my sources.
28 DEC 1819: Ann Strong, Oglethorpe County [Georgia],
married Ebenezer Newton "first tutor in Franklin College",
which is now the University of Georgia at Athens, GA.
[As I recall, William Strong, Jr., son of William and Francs
(Johnson) Strong, was one of the founding fathers of Franklin
College, but I may be confusing this with the fact he was on
the building committee for the first courthouse building in
Clarke County. He was an attorney and Judge and farmer.]
I wrote a note to myself that this was probably Ann Tabitha
Strong, daughter of Charles Strong, Sr., who was a Revolutionary
War soldier, who stated in his pension application that he
was born in Hanover County, VA, about 1763, if I recall correctly.
Charles was the son of the third in a succession of John Strongs.
So here is Ann Tabitha Strong's ancestry:
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County, VA, d. after 1703
John Strong, Jr., of western Hanover County, d. before 1751
| John Strong [III] of Hanover, Goochland, Campbell and
| possibly Cumberland Counties of VA; Oglethorpe and Clarke
| Counties, GA
| Charles Strong, Sr., same as for father
Ann Tabitha Strong
The last will and testament of John Strong [III] was dated
1 FEB 1812 and was probated on 6 NOV 1815, and a copy
was recorded in Clarke County, GA, Will Book A.
Sons: Charles
Robert
David
Daughters: Sallie Thompson
Caty McCoy
Executors: Sons, Charles and Robert
[David was in Tennessee]
Witnesses: Sherwood Strong
Mrs. Morn McKoy Lindsay, 205 Oak Ridge Court, Greer, SC
29650, is descended from Charles Strong via his daugher,
Catherine Strong McKoy. I consider her to be THE authority
on the Charles Strong family. By the way, she is a professional
genealogist and has co-edited a number of books with our
mutual relative, Mrs. GeLee ("Jo") Hendrix of Greenville, SC,
another professional genealogist.
You'll find the John Strong [III] family discussed by James
R. Rolff in Chapter 15 of his book, STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA
AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES. I have personally researched
the Virginia records of this John Strong, particularly those in
Goochland County where he resided from about 1770 to about
1787. In Goochland County, Charles Strong married Sarah
Thompson and his sister, Catherine, married John Thompson,
brother of Sarah Thompson. So that is where the Thompson
name entered this family.
[The parents of John and Sarah Thompson were Richard and
Elizabeth Thompson of Goochland County. After Richard died,
Elizabeth remarried to Charles Johnson. I believe this is the
same Charles Johnson who became in 1816 the third and last
husband of Mrs. Nancy (Strong) Carroll Turner, daughter of Mrs.
Ann (Stanley) Strong, my ancestor.]
Now, concerning Penina(h) Strong:
John K. Binford was guardian of "Penina" Strong, child of
Elijah Strong. Dated 5 SEP 1814. Recorded in Book B,
Administrator's and Guardian's Bonds, Clarke County, GA.
Elijah Strong was a son of William Strong, also known as
William Strong, Jr., and William Strong, Esquire, mentioned
above. Here is the descent for "Penina" Strong.
John Strong, Sr.
John Strong, Jr.
William Strong, Sr., of Hanover, Goochland, Buckingham
Counties, VA, and Franklin and Clarke Counties, GA.
William Strong [Jr., Esquire]
Elijah Strong
Penina Strong
Again, more information is available in James R. Rolff's book,
Chapter 12, William Strong.
The common ancestor for all of the Strongs named in your
message is John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County, VA. This
includes Thomas Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA, the apparent husband
of Mrs. Elizabeth Strong, consort of Gov. Alexander Martin.
I don't believe Mary Sharp Martin would be related genetically
to this Strong family but she surely is related historically IF
your ancestor chart is correct. The conclusion about whether
Elizabeth Strong was previously married to Thomas Strong
seems to be tentative, needing more definitive proof. But
sometimes we must be content with nothing more than
circumstantial proof that is plausible.
I hope this helps to identify these two Strong ladies.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: TROUP CO., GA. STRONGS
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 11:22:10 -0800
Message-ID: <5C1C0C3BA6@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
Hi!
I just received some interesting news from a "cousin" that I thought I'd
share with the group, and hope for some additional help from you.
Ann Thompson STRONG m. 1 Dec 1819, GA to Ebenezer NEWTON, b. 20 Jun 1790
in Wilkes Co., GA and d. 27 Aug 1859 in Troup Co., GA. I have
no dates for Ann Strong Newton.
Peninah STRONG m. Josiah NEWTON, who was b. 12 Oct 1787, Oglethorpe Co.,
GA.
Both Josiah & Ebenezer Newton were sons of Rev. John Newton. Rev.
Newton's daughter was Cynthia Newton who m. Robert Hall and
resided in Troup Co., GA. Their daughter Cynthia Hall m. CALVIN
J. ANDREWS, b. 1819. Cynthia died after a few years of marriage,
and widower Calvin J. Andrews moved to HOLMES CO., MS and married
in 1849, Mary Sharp MARTIN, daughter of ALEXANDER STRONG MARTIN,
son of ELIZABETH STRONG of Rockingham Co., NC., formerly Mrs.
THOMAS STRONG of Pittsylvania Co., VA.
This is my very convoluted way of trying to see whether there would be
any relatively close connection to these Troup Co. Strong-Newtons,
Andrews and ultimately Alexander Strong Martin that would cause Andrews
to leave all his family in GA and move to Holmes Co., MS (apparently all
by himself) and within the year "find" and marry Alexander Strong
Martin's daughter. Are his first wife's Strong aunts just a coincidence?
The "cousin" who sent me this is from Calvin's first wife, who is
researching the Newton family; and I'm descended from Calvin's 2nd wife,
and thus my Martin / Strong family. Hope someone has ancestry of Peninah
and Ann Thompson Strong. If you need Newton data, let me know.
Francie Lane flane@otn.net
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: James Strong
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 20:39:36 +0000
James
When I read your e-mail this morning about James Strong of KY/MO, I at
first failed to pay attention to the bit about Henry being listed in the
1880 Douglas County, MO, census. Inasmuch as Douglas County serves as
Ozark County's northern border, this detail greatly increases the
likelihood that we are talking about the same James. Add to that the
fact that James Strong of Ozark County named his eldest son Henry and we
pretty much have a lock on it. Nevertheless, in true Missouri style, I
will review the 1860 census reports for both Ozark and Douglas counties
before making a final determination. Thanks alot for your information.
It appears to be very valuable.
Tom
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Hi
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:36:53 -0500 (EST)
Today I sent two sets of Surry County, Virginia
Strong records. After the second set I showed
reasons to believe that the William Strong of
the Surry County records was the same person
as the William Strong on record in James City
County, and/or the William Strong on record
in Charles City County. I also showed a reason
to believe that the Thomas Strong of the Surry
County records was the same person as the
Thomas Strong of Charles City County. Then
I said that I would later show indications that
the William Strong of James City County
and Charles City County are also the same
person. Both counties have few surviving
records, so there is very little to work with.
All of the following records that I mention
can be found in my book, "Strong Family of
Virginia, and Other Southern States", in Chapter
One. Virginia Land Patents include 8 records
that contain the name William Strong. All of
these concern Land Patents in James City
County. Of these 8 records, 7 of them name
lands that William Strong owns in James City
County. Three William Strong records have
been found in Charles City County, none that
mention any William Strong land. It appears
that William Strong lived in James City County
on many acres of land owned by him there. Why
does he appear in three Charles City County Court
Orders, but never a James City County Court
Order? He was probably in many James City
County Court Orders, but they are all destroyed,
while some in Charles City County have survived,
and William Strong is on three which is normal
spillover for a guy who lives VERY close to the
county line, as will follow. Are there any records
that make a real connection?
James City County: Edward Ellerby Land Patent
shows that William Strong's land is on the line
of "MRS. NOWELL"
Charles City County: William Strong on a 1665
list of 17 people who owed to a mariner. One of
the other 16 was "MRS. NOWELL"
His next door neighbor was in Court with him.
How close to Charles City County did William
Strong live? The 7 Land Patents that show
William Strong land indicate clearly that some
parcels are on the east side of the Chickahominy
River, and some are on the west side. How could
that be when the dividing line between James City
County and Charles City County is the
Chickahominy River? The answer is in "Parish
Lines of Diocese of Virginia", published by the
Virginia State Library. In 1634 the line between
the two counties was set at the Chickahominy
River, but over the years the county line gradually
moved west from the river to coincide with the
boundary line of Chickahominy Parish, until the
line was 5 miles west of the river, and it remained
there until moved back to the Chickahominy
River in 1720. So William Strong had land on
both sides of the river, but it was all in James
City County. Some of his land could have
been on the county line. Naturally he had
some dealings in Charles City County. Thomas
Strong and Andrew Strong had several court
records in Charles City County, but theirs
had some indications that they actually lived
in that county. They may have been sons of
William Strong, and could have lived very close
to him, but over the line in Charles City County.
from Jimmmmie@aol.com
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: James Strong
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 21:01:32 +0000
James,
Yes, this James is my wife's great great grandfather. I have found both
marriage record in the Ozark County record books although the microfilms
are poor and I mistook Rutha Jane Upton for Bertha Jane Upton. I most
definitely would like to see the pages you are referring to and I
definitely will return them to you.
My address is:
Tom Mathews
3883 Mission Court
Oakley, CA 94561
Jimmmmie@aol.com wrote:
>
> Tom;
> Does this fit your James: James M. "Jim" son of Henry H. and Mary
> (Hickman) Strong born in Ky in 1841 was married to Ruthie Jane Upton
> Aug 3, 1862 in Ozark Co., Mo. During the Civil war he was shot several
> times and left for dead, by bushwackers that roamed the hill. He was
> cared for by the Upton family and later married the daughter. He married
> Sarah Davis July 13, 1879 etc.........
> If so, I also have a 39 page history of the Henry Harrison Strong family
> that I will send to you if you will copy it and send it back. This thing has
> been in the mail several times. Jimmmmie@aol.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: One versus two William Strongs in J. C. Co. & Surry Co., VA
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 04:23:52 EST
The infomation that I posted on 1 MAR 97 regarding
William Strong of Wahrani Swamp or Creek, also known as
Diascund Swamp or Creek, located in James City County on
the border with New Kent County, probably died in 1675 or
1676 because the land he willed to Hester Thomas and her
husband was sold by them on 1 AUG 1676. This seems
to prove that William Strong had died before 1 AUG 1676.
So, if there are records of William Strong in Surry County
dated in the 1680s, how could he be the same person?
The only explanation that comes to my mind is that this
was a continuation of the settlement of the estate of
William Strong by the attorneys for the estate. If William
Strong died in 1675 or 1676, he obviously would not
appear on tax lists after that date, unless there was a
notation that he was deceased and the property being
taxed was part of his estate.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
[strong@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
Subject: Surry County, Virginia Court Orders
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:23:01 -0500 (EST)
2. In a book I have "Colonial Surry", by John
B. Boddie, are transcribed the Surry County
Lists of Tithables for the years 1668, 1674,1678,
1683, 1688,1694, 1698. In none of these is any
Strong named, although William Strong's
attorneys consistantly appear.
I believe this very well indicates that the Strongs
were not really Surry Co. residents, but rather
that they had business and social interests
there. You might also note that Thomas Strong
also named an attorney to take care of Surry
County business. Later I will present evidence
to show that the William Strong of James City
County and the William Strong of Charles City
County were the same person also.
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: William Strong
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 10:00:29 -0500 (EST)
Dear Bob and everybody else too;
I was really glad that you sent all those William Strong type
records, because
I thought that I should when I was doing the "William Strong lived in James
City County" thing last night, but I wasn't ready for that job after all the
Surry County stuff I typed yesterday. We are certainly on the same
wavelength, because I too had all
my Virginia maps out, especially looking for Moses Creek and Warreny Creek. I
don't have any proof, but I tend to also think that Moses Creek is now Morris
Creek. I also found Wahrani Creek on a modern map, and the first thing I
thought was "WILLIAM STRONG MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY LIVED IN WHAT WOULD LATER BE
NEW KENT COUNTY". I thought about sending that tidbit, but then decided that
what I was doing here was only trying to show that it was probably the SAME
William
Strong in the three counties. I certainly wasn't ready to get into the John
Strong(1) thing unless something better is someday found, so I just sent the
Wahrani Creek thing to my long term memory. We are also thinking the same
about William Haveat
being the father-in-law of William Strong, and that appears that William
Strong died by 1676. You ask how this same William Strong could appear on
records of Surry County of the 1680s. These were only peoples statements that
William Strong had owned the Wareneck Mill years earlier, and we have the
record where he sold(sould)
the mill in 1665. Some might wonder why I'm trying to show that the William
Strong records of the 3 counties were of the same person when that person may
not even be
our ancestor. My answers are: 1/ I'm trying to drum up interest. 2/ I think
William Strong is an ancestor, so it's something that needs to be done. 3/
He's a Strong.
Yes, there definately is a need to get copies of the ORIGINALS of some of
these William Strong Land Patents. I'm sort of holding off to see where my
daughter gets transferred in May(She finds out later this month), because it
very possibly could be Norfolk, Virginia, and if so I would try very hard to
get a few days at the Virginia State Library. Otherwise, I think I remember
that getting these records buy mail from there is expensive, especially if we
would want a lot of them. Robert, I'm sorry that I forgot that I shouldn't
type so far across the page. Jimmmmie
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Noah:>TN>MO,1809-1880s
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 09:43:31 -0500 (EST)
Subj: STRONG, Noah:>TN>MO;1809-1880s
Date: 97-03-02 01:54:19 EST
From: MERLINESK
To: MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
I am new to the Strong newsletter. I am not
a Strong descendant myself, but doing
research, etc for my friend, Susan Strong Haden.
She doesn't have access to the net, so I act as
her go-between. I have more of the Strong rcds.
here at my office than she does, so you may
reply directly to me rather than snail-mail to her.
In the research process, I've become quite inter-
ested in the Strong family mainly because
of the "lost" branches. Susan's descent is as
follows: Noah Strong b. 1809 TN moved to MO
about 1830. His wife was Mary (Polly) Patterson,
also b. TN ca. 1812- believe she was from Smith
Co. or nearby.
2. Charles W. T. Strong, b. Oct 1840 in or near Greene
Co. Married Anne Keeton, dau. of Braxton Keeton.
Served in WBTS. Moved to Nodaway Co. MO
(NW MO) about 1870-80.
3.Howard Strong, b. 1883=Pearl Livasey
4.Maurice Strong, b.1908=Maxine Walters
5.Susan Ann Strong, b.1941=Dr. John Haden
6.Mark Haden=Lisa Rich
We are trying to find the parents of Noah Strong
and his ancestry. Wade R. Watts (Merlinesk)
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, John; Windsor, CT, by 1661 > daughter Esther m. Bissell
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 23:08:41 EST
ATTENTION: ALL STRONG OF NEW ENGLAND RESEARCHERS
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From: Ruth from Upstate New York
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.surnames
Subject: STRONG; Windsor, CT,USA; 1630-1700
Date: 2 Mar 1997 22:15:35 GMT
Interested in "talking" to anyone researching the
John STRONG family who were in Windsor, CT by
1661 and probably much earlier. His wife is
unknown to me, but a daughter, Esther or Hester,
was born at Windsor 7 Jun 1661 and died there
4 Mar 1726. She married Thomas BISSELL who
was born at Windsor 2 Oct 1656. Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance.
Ruth Jordan Thoden
Internet = RuthThoden@Delphi.Com
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ATTENTION: Ruth Jordan Thoden
Your message has been forwarded to the STRONG Family
Genealogy Discussion Group. If you would be interested in
joining our discussion, send a message to this address:
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
Beginning on Column 1 of the first line of the message, type:
SUB STRONG
EXIT
That's all that's required to subscribe.
There are several current subscribers who should be able
to assist you.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: "Edwards, Teresa L"
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: RE: More Missouri Strongs
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:00:55 -0500
More Info on Missouri Strongs:
Douglas Co., MO marriages:
William Strong and Mary Colson
Two of William and Mary's children married brother and sisters of the
Harris family:
1. Robert Harris married Julia Priscilla Strong 1-2-1893
2. Isaac Redmond Strong married Nancy Harris 6-8-1891
Others:
3. John Fian Spurlock married Martha Strong 1888
Martha died 1903
Ozark Co. Cemeteries:
Faye Cemetery - Ozark Co., MO
Clara Strong 1895-1962
Daniel Webster Strong 1901-1941
G. W. Strong 1889-1895
Jesse Strong 1866-1942
Otis Strong 1890-1973
Sanford Strong 1917-1971 (Koren Veteran)
Isabella Cemetery - Ozark Co., MO
Ralph Edward Strong Septl 17, 1956- July 27, 1958
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From: Thomas Mathews[SMTP:unkletom@cctrap.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 1997 2:22 PM
To: Strong Family genealogy list
Subject: More Missouri Strongs
In my search for the Strong family in southern Missouri I have come up
with some names that appeared in the 1850 census. Although I don't know
if they have any connection to the family I am researching I thought I'd
send them out in case anyone else is interested.
From Mercer County:
Strong, Benjamin 38 M VA
Sarah 36 F Ohio
Samuel 15 M VA
James 13 M VA
George 10 M VA
William 8 M Ill
Sarah 1 F Iowa
From Camden County:
Strong, William 30 M KY
Delila 24 F Tenn
Minerva 6 F MO
Strong, Scott 27 M Ky
Catherine 19 F Ill
Strong, Jane 65 F VA
Mary 30 F VA
Julia 28 F VA
Anderson 23 F KY
Daniel 17 M KY
Please let me know if anyone has any information regarding a James
Strong or Daniel Strong of Ozark County, MO.
Thanks,
Tom Mathews
Oakley, CA
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRANGE, James: London, ENG, abt 1780
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 23:46:22 EST
Hi, Helen!
Thanks for your note.
I recently wrote to Norma Straughan Russie:
"Hang in there and eventually we will have more
Straughan, Straughn, Strahan, Strawn, etc.,
subscribers. Don't give up because you don't
get a reply immediately."
Add Strange and Strang to that, also.
Did any of your Strange family migrate
to the American Colonies? I have seen a few
Strange records here and there. Would any of
them possibly be your family? The ones I
remember most clearly were in St. Peter's
Parish, New Kent Co., VA, in the late 1600s
and early 1700s. They obviously couldn't
be descended from your James Strange,
though, could they?
What you sent is OK for the Subscriber List,
which I have already updated. It would
assist you to make connections if you
would post your descent from your earliest
known Strange, with dates and places.
Good luck in your search,
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: Helen Strange
To: "Robert T. Strong"
Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBERS to STRONG Mail List, 28 FEB 97
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 22:23:49 +0000
Message-ID: <+mzufBA13fGzEwQW@strange1.demon.co.uk>
I am researching the STRANGE family particularly
James Strange of London England circa 1780 and
his descendants. I do not know if this information is
in the format you required but as as I am unclear as
to the exact format I hope this will suffice.
Thank you
--
Helen Strange
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Noah Strong, MO census
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:29:12 -0500 (EST)
Noah Strong first appears in the 1840 MO
census in Barry Co. (SW MO). He was married
with small children. Also in Barry Co. was Horace
Strong, several years younger than Noah, married
with no children. I have been unable to find Horace
in any subsequent census, but perhaps I missed
him.
1850 census---Greene Co. MO (also SW MO)
Noah 41, b. TN
Mary 38, b. TN
Caroline 19, b. MO (all children listed as b. in MO)
Rhoda J. 14
Josiah T. 18
Mary L. 13
Charles W. T. 10
John R. 8
William H. G. 2
also Greene Co.
Isaac Strong 35 b. TN
Terrisa 24 b. NC
John T. 6 b. MO (all children b. MO)
Robert L. 3
James R. 7/12
Do not know the relationship, if any, between
Noah and Isaac. Does anyone out there know the
origins of these families?
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Noah Strong, 1840 MO census
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 12:19:04 EST
ATTENTION: MERLINESK@aol.com
Greetings, Strong Researcher:
Are you descended from Noah Strong? I would
like to attach a Strong family to your E-Mail
address on the Subscriber List, and also your
name if possible. Would you kindly post a
descendancy chart for your Strong lineage?
Jim Rolff and I have independently abstracted
most Tennessee census records 1850 and later.
I probably stopped in 1870. I believe Jim also
abstracted 1880--with the help of his daughter(s).
But since your Noah was already in Missouri in
1840 these census abstracts are not much help.
So you are looking for a Strong family that was
in Tennessee around 1810 to 1815. That narrows
the search considerably because there were
few Strongs in Tennessee in 1810, viz.:
John Strong, Davidson County, died 1816
George Strong, Bedford County (son of Nathan)
John C. Strong, Bedford County
Joseph C. Strong I, Knox County
Sherwood Strong, Sumner County
Thomas Strong, Sumner County (brother of Sherwood?)
Christopher Strong, Dickson County
I have checked STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES,
VOLUME V, (c) SFAA, 1996. There is no Noah
Strong indexed. There are two Horace
Strongs, one of which is my older brother
who resides LA. The other in Canada.
Jim Rolff lists a Noah Strong in his book, but
this Noah was not born until 1840 in DeKalb
County, TN, son of Eliab Strong. Further
research on the relatives of Eliab Strong
might turn up something for you. Neither
of the two Horace Strongs in Rolff's book
fits the Horace Strong you mentioned.
That said, I opened my paper file on Strongs
in Tennessee and the first thing I saw was
a letter from Owen L. Fry, Post Office Box 266,
Frederick, Oklahoma 73542-0266, dated
1 SEP 1986, concerning Noah Strong.
Mr. Fry had contacted Jim Rolff who referred him
to me. Mr. Fry hypothesized that Noah (F.?) Strong,
born about 1810, was a son of my relative, Thomas
Strong, son of my ancestors, Sherwood Strong and
Mary Tibbs Strong. This Thomas Strong was a
soldier in the War of 1812 from Sumner County,
Tennessee. He married Rhoda Shane in Davidson
County, TN, in December 1819. The day was either
12 or 22.
One of the problems with Mr. Fry's hypothesis
is that on the 1820 census of Sumner County, TN,
Mrs. & Mrs. Thomas Strong, both ages 16-25,
have no children. Their first son was born
between 1825 and 1830, per the 1830 census
of Davidson County, TN. So, if Noah Strong
was born around 1810 he could not be the
son of Thomas and Rhoda (Shane) Strong of
Sumner and Davidson Counties, TN.
The Thomas Strong who was residing in
Rutherford County, TN, in 1820 was apparently
Sherwood Strong's brother, who relocated
to Gibson County, TN, before 1830. One of
his sons, born 1812-1820, has not been identified.
I recommend you study the Strong households
on the 1830 census of Tennessee and Missouri.
Which households had males age 15 to 19,
that is, born 1811 to 1815? You might also want
to note the 20-29 year age range, but his is
not very specific for your needs.
Mr. Fry speculated that Noah Strong was the
N. F. Strong who appeared on the 1830 census
of Giles County, Tennessee (which is "just up
the road a piece" from where I currently reside).
My opinion was that this N. F. Strong, born
between 1801 and 1810, was the son of David
Strong and his wife, Lucretia (Irvine) Strong
of Giles County, TN. David Strong appeared on
the 1820, 1830, and 1850 census of Giles County
and his death was reported on the 1850 Mortality
Schedule for that county. He was married on
5 JUN 1794 in Campbell County, VA. He is
descended from John Strong, Sr, of New Kent
County, VA: John, Sr., > John, Jr. > John Strong,
III, of VA and GA > David. David had six sons,
according to his census reports and most have
not been identified. Some of his unidentified
sons are from the time period in which Noah
Strong was born. Matthew T. Strong was definitely
his son. N. F. Strong and Franklin Strong were
possible sons. This N. F. Strong in Giles County,
TN, seems the best lead we have in terms of
identifying the parents of your Noah Strong.
Mr. Fry related that the wife of Noah Strong
was Mary Dodd and that the Dodd family was
from Rutherford County, TN. My ancestors,
Sherwood and Mary (Tibbs) Strong, moved over
the county line into Rutherford County after
1820 and before 1830. Sherwood died in the
1830s obviously intestate. Mary Strong lived
in Rutherford County till her death in 1865.
In Davidson County, Sherwood resided near
the present locations of The Hermitage and
Opryland USA.
You might be aware of a Thomas Strong
who was a neighbor of my ancestor, Isham
Strong in Davidson County, TN, in 1830.
This was not Thomas, brother of Sherwood,
and was not Thomas, son of Sherwood.
I have never been able to identify this Thomas
Strong, who was apparently a wealthy man
engaged in the timber business in Sumner
County, as he owned a Mill and had many
slaves, if my memory is not too unreliable.
He also had about five sons in 1830, but all
were born 1820 or later, so I guess that rules
them out of your consideration. This Thomas
Strong "disappeared" from what is now called
"Middle" Tennesse before the 1840 census.
Could he have gone to Missouri?
William Strong of Crawford County, Missouri,
was most probably a son of Sherwood and Mary
(Tibbs) Strong. James Rolff makes a convincing
argument for this conclusion in his book. William
Strong, formerly of Davidson and Rutherford
Counties, TN, had a son, Isaac, who appeared
on the 1850 and 1860 census reports of Wright
County, MO. So this is a different Isaac Strong
from the one you found on the 1850 census of
Greene County, MO.
Mr. Fry enclosed a Family Group Sheet with
this additional information. Noah Strong
died intestate on 4 JAN 1861 in Webster County,
Missouri. His estate was administered by
Mary Strong and Josiah Strong. They were
apparently appointed on 10 JAN 1861.
See also Probate Jacket No. 779, Record
Book pages 404, 434-435. Other references:
1850 census, Robinson Township, Greene Co.,
MO; 1860 census, Washington Township,
Webster County, MO; correspondence with
Mrs. Mary K. Quinn Maxwell, 1914 North C (Street?),
Arkansas City, Kansas 67005.
Mr. Fry has "Warren" H. G. Strong, b. abt 1842, plus
Edward Robert Strong, b. 1 JUL 1851, and
Valaria S. J.,. born abt 1856. Other children
as you list from 1850 census. Several of the
children married in Phelps County, MO. in the
1860s. At least two died in Edmonson County,
Kentucky: Sarah Caroline Strong Underhill York
and Edward Robert Strong. Mr. Fry apparently
descends from Edward Robert Strong, died
17 JUN 1876, Brownsville, Edmonson Co., KY.
Thanks for your post and I hope you receive
some additional replies soon. I know we have
a number of subscribers to the Strong List who
have connections in Missouri.
Good luck in your search.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Noah Strong, MO census
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:29:12 -0500 (EST)
Noah Strong first appears in the 1840 MO
census in Barry Co. (SW MO). He was married
with small children. Also in Barry Co. was Horace
Strong, several years younger than Noah, married
with no children. I have been unable to find Horace
in any subsequent census, but perhaps I missed
him.
1850 census---Greene Co. MO (also SW MO):
Noah 41, b. TN
Mary 38, b. TN
Caroline 19, b. MO (all children listed as b. in MO)
Rhoda J. 14
Josiah T. 18
Mary L. 13
Charles W. T. 10
John R. 8
William H. G. 2
Also Greene Co.:
Isaac Strong 35 b. TN
Terrisa 24 b. NC
John T. 6 b. MO (all children b. MO)
Robert L. 3
James R. 7/12
Do not know the relationship, if any, between
Noah and Isaac. Does anyone out there know the
origins of these families?
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Thomas and Sherwood Strong
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 20:44:52 +0000
Bob,
Odd you should mention Thomas and Sherwood Strong. I just happened to be
looking in a book on Virginia Veterans of Colonial Wars (or something
like that) and happened to find them both listed together on page 303. I
will take another look tomorrow to see what it says about them.
Tom
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Noah STRONG: TN > MO, 1809-1880s
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 22:27:41 EST
ATTENTION: Wade R. Watts (Merlinesk)
Please pardon my oversight. I did see the earlier
message, but it didn't "ring a bell" with me at the
time as I am not very familiar with Strongs of
Missouri.
Susan Strong Haden and Owen L. Fry are
obviously researching the same Noah Strong.
Susan says Noah married Mary Patterson.
Owen says Noah married Mary Dodd on 3
OCT 1830 in Tennesse, but gives no further
documentation except to say the Dodd family
was from Rutherford County, TN, but when
Mary was born on 10 OCT 1812 the Dodd family
was residing in Knox County, TN.
Records of Giles County, TN, and Rutherford
County, TN, should be checked for a record of
the marriage of Noah Strong and Mary __?__.
That is, unless Owen Fry can document the
marriage for you. Give him my regards when
you contact him.
You might post a request for someone to check
their CD marriage records for Strongs in TN.
The discrepancy about who was the wife of
Noah Strong needs to be resolved. Everyone
agrees her given name was Mary, but what
was her maiden Surname? The answer could
provide some clues about where in Tennessee
to look for Noah and his parents.
I agree with Owen Fry that the N. F. Strong
on the 1830 census of Giles County, TN, is the best
lead we know. Mr. Fry also pointed out that
N. F. Strong of Giles County was probably a brother
of Franklin Strong [I agree with Mr. Fry], and that
a Franklin Strong was residing in the 7th District,
Polk County, MO, in 1850. Polk County is adjacent
to and north of Greene County, MO.
In 1830, Giles County, TN, N. F. Strong and
his wife were both born 1801-1830.
In 1830, Giles County, TN, Franklin Strong was
shown as born 1801-1810, his wife was born
1801-1810, and he had three children, a daughter
born 1821-1825, a son born 1826-1830, and
another daughter born 1826-1830. See if he is
in Missouri in 1840 with three children, two
daughters and a son, born before 1830. On
the 1850 census of Polk Co., MO, is he and his
wife shown as being born in VA or in TN
between 1801 and 1810?
Both of these were PROBABLY sons of David
Strong and Lucretia (Irvine) Strong. David
Strong had unidentified sons born 1795-1804,
1803-1804, 1805-1810, 1811-1820. Identified
sons are Matthew T., born about 1804, VA, and
probably James, born VA about 1813. I
did not list N. F. and Franklin as sons due to
lack of information, but I believe both of these
were sons of David Strong. Keep in mind that
most, if not all, of David's children were born
in Virginia. But his youngest sons might have
THOUGHT they were born in Tennessee as
they were reared in Giles County, TN.
I will update your entry on my List of Subscribers.
It took me a spell to figure out that "WTBS" was
an abbreviation for the War Between the States,
aka Civil War.
Your message sent to MAISER@ should have
generated an error message back to you. As you
have learned, you need to use the STRONG@
address when communicating with the STRONG
Family History Discussion Group.
Please keep the group and me informed of the
progress in researching the Strong ancestry of
Susan Strong Haden. Thank you for assisting
her in her research.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: Fwd: STRONG, Noah:>TN>MO,1809-1880s
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:49:44 -0500 (EST)
I had posted the lineage for Noah Strong. in newsletter 3/2/97 so
thought I should address you direct. My name is Wade R. Watts
(Merlinesk@aol.com). Thanks for responding. I will contact you
as soon as I've had a chance to digest your message. Thanks
again. Wade
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: ERRATA: "Noah STRONG: TN > MO, 1809-1880s"
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 22:38:05 EST
Correction to my message to MERLINESK@aol.com
"In 1830, Giles County, TN, N. F. Strong and
his wife were both born 1801-1830."
SHOULD BE:
"On the 1830 census, Giles County, TN,
N. F. Strong and his wife were both born
1801-1810. They had no children when the
census was taken. The census was probably
taken as of 1 JUN 1830."
ADDITIONAL QUESTION / COMMENT:
Was Noah Strong on the 1830 census in
(Barry County?) Missouri? If so, then N. F.
Strong can be ruled out as being the same
person, as N. F. Strong was still in Giles Co.,
TN, in 1830.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: ERRATA: "Noah STRONG: TN > MO, 1809-1880s"
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:21:26 -0500 (EST)
Noah Strong was not in Barry Co. in 1830 census. I could not find a Noah
Strong anywhere in the MO 1830 census index. Since all his children were
supposedly b. in MO, he must have moved here shortly after 1830 census was
taken in TN. Really appreciate your interest and help. Wade
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: David STRONG; N. F. STRONG: TN, 1830 > MO?
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 14:45:24 EST
ATTENTION: Wade R. Watts (Merlinesk@aol.com)
The discovery of a record of Noah F. Strong or
N. F. Strong in Missouir is would prove that Noah
Strong and N. F. Strong are the same persons.
Here is the probable descent of N. F. Strong.
The numbers refer to generations.
1. John Strong [Sr.], died after 1703, probably New
Kent County, VA. His wife has not been identified.
The births of three sons were recorded in the
REGISTER of the St. Peter's Parish, Church of
England: John, 1698; William, 1701; George, 1703.
2. John Strong [Jr.] died in St. Martin's Parish of
the Church of England, located in western Hanover
County and eastern Louisa County. He was a resident
of the western half of Hanover County, near the
Stanleys at Cedar Creek, just east of Montpelier
and also around where Patrick Henry later settled
at the home called "Scotchtown", now a National
Monument, I believe. In the 1750s Mary Strong
attended a Quaker wedding. I believe she is the
widow of John Strong, Jr. She followed John
Strong, III, to Goochland County, or vice versa, and
appeared to reside with John Strong, III, until John, III,
departed Goochland County in 1787. No records of
of Mary can be found after 1787. My guess is that
her death was the event that precipitated the move
of John Strong, III. Mary was closely affiliated with
the Stanley family and with my ancestor, Ann Stanley
Strong. Mary attended the Quaker weddings of two
of Anne's siblings.
3. John Strong, III, served as a Private in the Second
Virginia Regiment, in the French and Indian Wars.
He moved first to St. Martin's Parish, Louisa
County, where he was employed in the late 1760s
as an Overseer on a plantation. About 1770 he
moved to Goochland County and settled on a
tributary of the Lickinghole Creek, near the little
junction referred to as Three Square, as it was
a "three-notched" junction. It was John Strong's
applications in 1779 and 1780 in Goochland County
for land grants, based on F & I War military service
of himself and his brother, Sherwood, that
"unlocked' some of the mysteries about this
family, including proving that Martin Strong was
John's eldest surviving brother as he was the heir
at-law of Sherwood Strong, deceased before 1779.
Martin, himself, appears to have deceased before
the grants were finally made in 1781, when Anne
Stanley Strong is in Goochland County, a widow.
We find Nathaniel Strong following John to Louisa
County and then again to Goochland County,
implying that Nathan was a younger brother of
John. So John, III, is a key figure in this family's
history. About 1787, John and his wife, Elizabeth,
relocated to Campbell County, VA, where they
remained a few years before joining his brothter,
William Strong, who had migrated to Georgia,
including all his sons and sons-in-law, whose
records are found in Franklin, Wilkes, Oglethorpe,
and Clarke Counties, I believe. I think John settled in
Oglethorpe first, but is soon found in records of
Clarke County, GA. He died in Clarke County but
was buried in Oglethorpe County, if I remember
correctly.
4. David Strong remained in Virginia when his
parents relocated to Georgia. His records are
found in Campbell and Charlotte Counties, VA.
The 1850 motality schedule for Giles County,
TN, stated that at his death from "old age"
David Strong was an 86 year old widower
who was born in Virginia. He died in March,
1850. His middle initial was recorded but I
could not decifer the letter clearly, mabe an
"S."
A severe thunderstorm is approaching, with
thunder in the distance, so I will post this now
and will write more about David Strong and
his family in a later message.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: ERRATA: "Noah STRONG: TN > MO, 1809-1880s"
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:21:26 -0500 (EST)
Noah Strong was not in Barry Co. in 1830 census. I could
not find a Noah Strong anywhere in the MO 1830 census
index. Since all his children were supposedly b. in MO,
he must have moved here shortly after 1830 census was
taken in TN. Really appreciate your interest and help.
Wade
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: David STRONG; N. F. STRONG: TN, 1830 > MO?
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:07:23 -0500 (EST)
I'm searching through my records to find where my reference that Noah
Strong=Mary Patterson. Somehow, I had the notion that the later (younger)
Strong was the one married to Mary Dodd (was that Knox Co.?). Will have to
try to find it in my notes. Am working on income tx. now so won't get to it
til weekend. Thanks again for all your input. Wade
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: David STRONG of Charlotte Co., VA & Giles Co., TN
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:41:24 EST
ATTENTION: Wade R. Watts (Merlinesk@aol.com)
Wade: Notice the names Edward and Rhoda
as children of Thomas Strong, below. Also
note the name Tennessee appears in both this
Giles County family and in your Noah Strong
family, as your Edward Robert Strong named
a daughter Tennessee, according to Owen L.
Fry's records.
Before being interrupted by a severe thunderstorn
and tornado warning a little earlier this afternoon,
I had drafted the continuation of the probable
ancestry of N. F. Strong of Giles County, TN.
4th Generation:
"David Strong remained in Virginia when his
parents relocated to Georgia. His records are
found in Campbell and Charlotte Counties, VA.
The 1850 motality schedule for Giles County,
TN, stated that at his death from "old age"
David Strong was an 86 year old widower
who was born in Virginia. He died in March,
1850. His middle initial was recorded but I
could not decipher the letter clearly, maybe an
"S.""
[There is an 1810 record of a David T. Strong
being an assistant surveyor or a chain bearer
in Tennessee, but I cannot state with any
confidence that he was the same person.
This David T. was probably the David Strong
who appeared on an 1806 tax list in Knox
County, TN.]
I erred, above, as David Strong died MAR 1860.
So we can calculate his estimated year of birth
as 1860 minus 86 equals 1774, when John
Strong, his father was residing near Three
Square in the portion of Goochland County, VA,
that was once called "Fleming's Park". John
was a neighbor of the affluent Thomas Eston
Randolph, who owned the Dungeness Plantation,
which was still in operation in the 1980s at
Rock Castle on the James River, just south of
the Three Square Community.
Lucretia Irvine Strong, wife of David Strong, died
in Giles County, TN, after the 1850 census and before
the 1860 census.
In 1810, David and Lucretia Strong were enumerated
on the census in Charlotte Co., VA. In 1820 they were
in Giles County, Tennessee, with two additional
children born after the 1810 census but probably before
they departed Virginia. It appears that ALL of their
children were born in Virginia.
1810 CENSUS:
AGE PERIOD MALES FEMALES
__________ ________ _______ _________
26-44 1766-1784 2 1
10-14 1796-1800 1 2
00-09 1801-1810 4 1
NUMBER CHILDREN: 5 3
1820 CENSUS:
Over 44 Bef 1776 1 1
26-44 1776-1794 0 0
16-25 1795-1804 2 1
10-15 1805-1810 2 0
00-09 1811-1820 1 1
NUMBER CHILDREN: 5 or 6 sons, 3 or 4 daughters
One of the sons was 16 or 17 years of age in 1820,
or born 1803 or 1804.
There is not much data in James Robert Rolff's
book about David Strong and family, except for
a few census records so I will publish a little more
of it here.
Before proceeding, I have checked STRONG
FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME 5, (c) 1996, SFAA,
and nothing about the descendants of David
Strong is included in this reference, either.
On 1 JAN 1830 David Strong, Sr., made a deed of gift
of slaves and furniture, "in consideration of love and
affection", to David Strong, Jr., and James H. Strong,
obviously sons. The deed was signed by David Strong
and was witnessed by John Black and Samuel Carter.
Recorded 25 MAR 1830, apparently in Deed Book H,
Pages 278 and possibly 279.
The above is the closest thing to a will that has been
found for David Strong, Sr.
On the 1830 census of Giles County, David Strong, Sr.,
is found on Page 144. His age was 50-59 [born 1770s].
On Page 176, David Strong [Jr.] and N. F. Strong are
listed on successive lines. This is probably sufficient
proof to conclude that N. F. Strong was another son of
David Strong, Sr. In 1830, David Strong [Jr.] was
probably the 20-29 year old in this household, but there
was also a couple in their 50s, or born 1770s. This
makes the interpretation of this 1830 census confusing
as we have two households of David Strongs with
couples in their 50s. In either case, however, the
census strongly supports the conclusion that N. F.
Strong belong to the family of David Strong, Sr.
A 13 FEB 1823 bill of sale from David Strong,
David Strong, and Matthew T. Strong proves
Matthew T. Strong was a son of David Strong,
but it also suggests that David Strong, Jr., was
an adult by 1823, or born 1802 or earlier. That
muddies the water a bit. Could David Strong of
Monroe Co., MS, have been a grandson, rather
than a son, of David Strong, Sr.? Were there
two David Strongs in Giles County in 1830, both
born in the 1770s? If so, who was this second
David Strong? Or, was there an error by the
census taker in 1830, enumerating David and
Lucretia Strong twice? Here are the two David
Strong households on the 1830 census, to
demonstrate this dilemma more clearly. Notice
that there are two unmarried males, ages between
15 and 29, in both households, implying this was
a census duplication. Perhaps David Strong, Jr.,
was one of these younger males in the house-
hold of David Strong, Sr., in 1830. The census
records of David Strong in Mississippi suggest that
he did not marry until late 1840s.
DAVID DAVID N. F. FRANKLIN
MALES p. 144 p. 176 p. 176 p. 185
00-04 1
05-09
10-14
15-19 1
20-29 2 1 1 1
3O-39
50-59 1 1
60-69
FEMALES
00-04 1
05-09 1
10-14 1
15-19
20-29 1
50-59 1 1
60-69
In 1830, N. F. Strong was age 20-29 and his bride was
apparently age 14 or less. She was thus born 1816 or
later. That should be helpful in identifying the later
census records of this N. F. Strong. [The accuracy of
my recording of this census record needs to be
checked independenlty by another person.]
In 1830, Franklin Strong, probably another son of
David Strong, Jr., was enumerated on Page 185
of the Giles County, TN, census. He was age 20-29,
or born 1801-1810.
On the 1840 census of Giles County, VA, David
Strong, Sr., is enumerated on Page 146, Line 16
and on the next line if found Matthew Strong,
who is obviously another son of David, and this
conclusion is supported by deeds. In 1840,
David Strong and his wife are in their 60s,
or born 1770s. In their household appeared to
be two unmarried males in their 30s, or born
1801-1810. One of these two could have been
David Strong, Jr. Census records of David
Strong in Mississippi, 1850 and 1860, support the
conclusion that he was a single male in 1840.
David Strong [Jr.], born about 1813-1815 in VA, is
found on the 1850 and 1850 census of Monroe
County, Mississippi, p. 97B. Wife Elizabeth __?__,
born about 1828-1830 Tennessee. It is uncertain
whether Margaret Tomlinson (?), born about 1839,
Tennessee, was a daughter. She may have been
a widowed sister or a sister-in-law. The following
can be identified as children of David Strong, Jr.:
Samuel I. or J. Strong, born about JAN or FEB
1850; Margaret, born about 1852; Jane, born about
1855, and "Fannie" [Frances?], born about 1858.
These four children were born in Mississippi.
If born in 1813 to 1815 in VA, David Strong, Jr.,
would be the youngest son of David Strong, Sr.
But how could he have been party to a deed in
1823, as mentioned above? A copy of the deed
needs to be obtained to determine if David
Strong, Jr., was identified as a minor in the
1823 deed.
In 1850, a James Strong, b. about 1813, VA,
with wife Lucinda, b. about 1819, TN, with
three children, Elizabeth, born about 1845,
William, born about 1847, and Nancy, born
about 1849, were residing with David and
Lucretia Strong. David was age 75 in 1850,
born in VA about 1775. Lucretia was age
76, born in VA about 1774. James' children
were all born in Tennessee. James Strong
is obviously a son of David and Lucretia Strong.
James H. Strong resided all his life in Giles Co.,
TN. On the 1860 census of Giles County, Microfilm
Page 170B, Dwelling 988, Family 972, James H.
Strong wa born about 1814 in VA; his wife, Lucinda,
was born about 1822 in North Carolina; all four
children at home were born Tennessee: Elizabeth,
15; William, 12; Nancy A. 10; Tennessee, 8.
According to the division of his estate, James H.
Strong died 21 OCT 1888. He was survived by the
three daughters named in the 1860 census, but
they were called Bettie D. Lambeth, wife of J. C.
Lambeth; Nancy Ann Strong, and "Tennie" P. Strong.
The division was performed in March and April,
1888 and was recorded on 5 MAR 1889.
Matthew T. Strong was residing in Maury County,
Tennesse, in 1860. See Microfilm Census Page
369, Dwelling 165. He was born about 1802 in VA
and had a wife, Nancy, born in Tennessee about
1812. There were four children residing at home
in 1860, age 11-23, all born TN: George D, 23;
Mary, 21; Edna A., 15; John W., 11. Matthew
T. Strong's trade was "shoe maker."
So three sons of David Strong, Sr., have been
positively identified as Matthew T. Strong,
James H. Strong, and David Strong, Jr.
N. F. Strong and Franklin Strong were also
probably sons of David Strong, Sr., but they
obviously departed the state after 1 JUN 1830
and before 1 JUN 1840, the census dates.
It appears highly likely that the Noah Strong
and the Franklin Strong found in Southwest
Missouri are the sons of David Strong, Sr.,
who had at least five, and possibly six, sons.
There has been some uncertainty about who were
the parents of Thomas Strong, born about JAN
1806. He is possibly a son of David Strong of Giles
County, TN. A descendancy chart for "Thomas
Strong of Virginia" if found on pages 581-583 in
STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME 5, (c) 1996,
SFAA. The person(s) who submitted this data
was not cited in the article. Most of the descendancy
chart is for the descendants of Edward (aka Edmund)
Strong. [Mollie Loving Strong is not mentioned in
this article. The implication is that she has not been
confimed as a child of Thomas Strong.]
My notes, below, were written before I discovered
the above article.
Thomas Strong married, first, Polly Matilda Wood,
and second, Lydia Loving. Most of his children
were born in Tennessee, probably Giles County,
between 1828 and 1840s. Thomas' youngest sons,
by his second marriage, was born in AL in 1850
and 1853. Thomas is found on the 1850 census
of Lauderdale County, AL, Microfilm Page 359.
Michael ("Mike") Strong, who resided at 7740
Sentinel Trail, Indianapolis, IN 46250, in 1983,
was a researcher of this Thomas Strong family.
The following is from records sent to me by Mike
Strong. In brackets I have added the nativity of
the person, father, and mother, as reported
for those I found on the 1880 census.
Thomas Strong, b. 4 JAN 1806
m.1. 1 MAR 1827, Polly Matilda Wood, b. 24 JUL 1806
Their children:
Robert Marion, b. 5 MAY 1828
Carolyn Elizabeth, b. 29 SEP 1830
Edward Harris, 11 SEP 1831 [TN VA TN}
James Burris, b. 7 OCT 1833
John Putman, b. 26 or 29 AUG 1835 [TN TN TN]
Rhoda Marthena, b. 30 JUL 1837
Lewis Thomas, b. 2 or 3 APR 1839
William Francis, 28 NOV 1840 [TN TN TN]
Min(n)ervia Pollistine, 19 NOV 1843
m.2. 1 JAN 1850, Lauderdale Co., AL,
Lydia Loving
Children of Thomas Strong and Lydia Loving Strong:
[Date of birth and birth order for Mollie unknown.]
Hiram Newton Strong, b. 23 OCT 1850
Hudson Allen Strong, b. 22 AUG 1853
Mollie Loving Strong, b. not reported
Efforts should be made to find this Thomas Strong
on the 1840 census of Tennessee. His location
might provide a clue regarding whether he was
likely a son of David Strong of Giles County, TN.
That's all, folks!!
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG, Mary I., b. 1855, LI, NY; d. 1892, CT; m. Everett A. Hanc
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 23:38:24 EST
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From: KELASN@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com for forwarding to Mail List
Subject: STRONG
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:46:01 -0500 (EST)
I am descended from Mary Isabelle STRONG born
29 Sept 1855 in Sag Harbor, Long Island, New York.
I do not know who her parents were. She was married
to Everett Alphonso HANCOCK and they lived in Groton,
CT. She died 23 Jan 1892 in Groton. Mary and Everett
had one son Roswell Brown Hancock.
Thank you
KELASN@aol.com (Kelly Loveall)
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong, Sr. of VA
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:07:58 +0000
Well, Wade, it looks as if we may tie this together after all. With
James's tip about Henry H. Strong and a trip to the local FHC, I have
been able to link James Strong of KY/MO to John Strong Sr. of VA. If
what Bob says can be confirmed, it looks like your search will end up
there as well. Good deal!
Here is what the Ancestral File has as the ancestry of James Strong:
James Strong, b. ca 1842 Breathitt Co., KY
Henry H. Strong, b. 1814, KY, d. after 1880 Douglas Co., MO m. Mary
Hickman
William Strong, b. 1768, VA, d. 1848, KY, m. Jennie (Jane) Callahan
Thomas Strong, b. 1739, Hanover, VA, d. 1808, m. Mary Webster
William Strong, b. 1 Jan 1701, New Kent Co., VA, d. 1770, m. ? Cape
John Strong, b. 1675, VA, m. ? Sherwood in 1697.
Who can help fill me in on this line? Is there a connection between John
Strong and the William Strong that James has been writing about?
Thanks for the help.
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: David STRONG of Charlotte Co., VA & Giles Co., TN
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:02:41 -0500 (EST)
Great information, Bob! This is certainly
above and beyond the call of duty. I was
looking thru my Eckenrode's Virginia Soldiers
of the American Revolution and found
several listings you may be interested in.
Keep in mind that sometimes these multiple
listings can refer to the same man.
John Strong listed as Hanover (militia?)
may be US or VA military pension
John Strong (different set of references)
bounty land warrants & Dept of War
documents
William Strong same as above
George Strong 3rd VA rgt (Cont. line)
John Strong 3rd VA rgt (cont line)
The last two entries lists War Dept doc #68
as the reference. I will try to get the pension
papers of John. Thanks again. I've made more
progress in the last 3 days than in the last 2 yrs
--thanks to you and the newsletter. Wade
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: George Strong's Military Records; the Nathan Strong family
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 01:55:42 EST
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Cc: STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: David STRONG of Charlotte Co., VA & Giles Co., TN
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:02:41 -0500 (EST)
George Strong 3rd VA rgt (Cont. line)
John Strong 3rd VA rgt (cont line)
The last two entries lists War Dept doc #68
as the reference.
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Does your book give more information about
War Department Document #68 and where
it might be obtained? I suspect this was
Revolutionary War service, as during the
French and Indian Wars there were only two
Virginia Regiments, I believe. But I need
to rule out that this person was the missing
George Strong, born 1703 in New Kent Co.,
VA. George, born 1703, would have been
too old to have been a soldier in the R. W.
George Strong, the son of Nathan Strong, Sr.,
of Goochland County, VA, from about 1776 until
about 1815, was born about 1773, so he was too
young to have been in the War for Independance.
So, I need to find out who was this George Strong
in the Third Virginia Regiment? Maybe this was
military service after the Revolution.
These are the only two George Strongs that I
can recall from my Virginia research. [But my
memory is not too reliable...]
Nathan and his family settled in Madison
County, Alabama, where I now live, and there
are many Strong descendants still in the area.
One was recently elected County Commissioner
for the district in which I reside! Nathan Strong,
Jr., resided in Lawrence County, AL, for a few
years before he moved on to Arkansas.
There are articles in STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES,
VOLUME 5, (c) 1996, SFAA, entitled "George Strong
of Louisa County, VA, and Madison County, AL"
and "Nathan(iel) Strong, Jr., of Henry County, VA,
and Clarke County, AR".
Incidentally, to all readers, there is an error in
in the above article about Nathan Strong, Jr.,
as it reports he was born in "Henry County, VA,
on the James River, near Richmond.." His
father, Nathan(iel) Strong, Sr., never resided in
Henry County, VA, so Nathan(iel) Strong, Jr.,
could not have been born there. Henry County,
VA, is no where near the James River or
Richmond. Richmond is in Henrico County,
but Nathan Strong, Sr., never resided there.
Nathan Strong, Sr., has been tracked from Louisa
County, VA, to Goochland County, VA, to Madison
County, Alabama. Nathan Strong, Jr., probably
spent a few years in Tennessee, perhaps with
his brother George in Bedford County, before
he moved to Alabama and married. There is
a record of a Nathan Strong being commissioned
in Tennessee as a Lieutenant during the War
of 1812 and there is no proof he was a resident
of Alabama until a few years later, although
he received a land grant in Alabama around
1812.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Jim Rolff's Book; LDS Ancestral File
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:08:21 EST
ATTENTION: ALL & Thomas Matthews
REFERENCE: STRONG FAMILY OF VIRGINIA
AND OTHER SOUTHERN STATES, compiled by
James Robert Rolff, (c) 1982.
Jim Rolff's book had not been out very long before
someone had digitalized all the information into
an electronic database and had submitted it to
the LDS Family History Center. So the information
you downloaded from the Ancertral File probably
came out of Rolff's book, which came out of Rolff's
newsletter earlier. There's one big difference,
though.
At the urging of several Newsletter subscribers,
including myself, Jim was careful to identify his
theories, speculations, guesses or hunches as such.
But when it got sent to the Ancestral File, these
theories, speculations, guesses, or hunches turned
into "facts" as no adjectives such as "probably" or
"possibly" or "perhaps" or "maybe" were attached
to these unproven relationships or events.
In his book, Jim Rolff said he theorized that the
wife of John Strong of New Kent County MIGHT
have been a Miss Sherwood. This was apparently
hypothesized because of the series of three
Sherwood Stongs in two generations who
descended from John Strong, Jr., of Hanover
County. [Actually, Jim Rolff didn't know anything
about John, Jr., except his date of christening,
at the time the book was being written.]
[The name Sherwood does not enter this family
until the next generation, when John Strong,
Jr., named a son, Sherwood, whose oldest
brother was Martin Strong. It is more likely
that John Strong, Jr., married a Ms. Martin.
But, as you see, these are conjectures, and
should never be reported as facts as was done
in the Ancestral File.]
In his book, Jim Rolff said he concluded, based
on circumstantial evidence, that the wife of
William Strong, MAY have been a Miss Cape.
In his book, Jim Rolff theorized that Nathaniel
Strong of Norfolk County, VA, was a fourth son
of John Strong of New Kent County. You'll
find that reported as a "fact" on the Ancestral
File.
You'll find Thomas Strong and Mary Webster
Strong discussed on pages 77-80 of Rolff's book.
You'll find William Strong and Jennie Callahan
discussed by Rolff in his next section, pages
80-90.
You'll find Henry Harrison Strong and Mary
Hickman discussed on pages 115-117 of Rolff's
book.
James Strong is listed on pages 115 and 116
of Rolff's book as a son of Henry Harrison
Strong.
So you can immediately see the source of the
data on the Ancestral File. There is data there
in the Ancestral File based on my personal
research, which I freely shared with Rolff's
newsletter subscribers and which was integrated
into his book, that could have come only from
Rolff's book. You will notice, too, that neither
Rolff nor I are given any credit for the data
about the Strong Family in the Ancestral File,
including our personal research efforts over
many years costing thousands of dollars.
Numerous other Strong descendants also
made contributions of their data to Rolff's
newsletter and book and were not credited.
I guess you can detect that I am rather
"het up", as the oldtimers said, about this
gross plagarism of data from Rolff's book
onto the Ancestral File. A suit for plagarism
might not hold up in court, because the
format of the data was changed, but the
theft of data is still there. It is the failure
to give credit to the compilers of the data
that make this a theft of data. No one
asked Jim Rolff for his permission to
re-publish the data and, in effect, deprive
him of sales of his book. Jim could probalby
make a good case against the person
who did this based on personal financial
injury.
Some of you may wonder why I add a
copyright notice to many of my messages.
The purpose is to prevent someone from
archiving my messages then selling them
for a profit without my consent! If some-
one is cavalier enough to do that, I have
legal recourse.
Jim Rolff asked if I objected to his giving
his book a plug on the Strong Mail List.
As yet, I have not answered formally.
I have no objection if it is done in the
context of offering assistance to another
researcher, as in your case, Thomas.
BUY THE BOOK!! If you had to start
collecting this data yourself, it would
take you years and costs you thousands,
as I said above. The price of the book
is quite cheap in comparison.
This is not an endorsement of everthing
Rolff has to say in the book about my
own Strong lineage. We disagree
substanively on several issues about my
own lineage, particularly regarding
(1) persons named Martin Strong and
(2) Anne Stanley Strong and who was
her husband and children.
P. S.: As yet no sons of William Strong of
James City County have been identified.
As yet, no parents of John Strong of New
Kent County have been identified. Any
linkage of these two is pure fantasy at this
time. What we need are facts--proof.
Jim Rolff hopes to find the needed proof.
I do not think Jim will be successful because
there is ample evidence that his John
Strong was brought to Virginia from either
Great Britain, directly, or indirectly from
another colony. That is, he was "transported"
to the Virginia Colony from an unknown
place, but one record says a very young John
Strong embarked for Virginia from Bristol,
England in the 1660s. We can not yet prove this was
John Strong of New Kent County, however,
although there is no better hypothesis.
Bob Strong
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: John Strong, Sr. of VA
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:07:58 +0000
Message-ID:
Well, Wade, it looks as if we may tie this together after all.
With James's [Rolff's] tip about Henry H. Strong and a trip
to the local FHC, I have been able to link James Strong of
KY/MO to John Strong Sr. of VA. If what Bob [Strong] says
can be confirmed, it looks like your search will end up
there as well. Good deal!
Here is what the Ancestral File has as the ancestry of
James Strong:
James Strong, b. ca 1842 Breathitt Co., KY
Henry H. Strong, b. 1814, KY, d. after 1880 Douglas Co., MO
m. Mary Hickman
William Strong, b. 1768, VA, d. 1848, KY, m. Jennie (Jane) Callahan
Thomas Strong, b. 1739, Hanover, VA, d. 1808, m. Mary Webster
William Strong, b. 1 Jan 1701, New Kent Co., VA, d. 1770, m. ? Cape
John Strong, b. 1675, VA, m. ? Sherwood in 1697.
Who can help fill me in on this line? Is there a connection
between John Strong and the William Strong that James
has been writing about?
Thanks for the help.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: What does a Strong look like?
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 23:18:00 EST
If you have a physical description of your
Strong ancestors, please share that information
with the Strong Family History Discussion Group.
I was pleased to discover a description of my
Great-Grandfather Strong in his Enlistment papers
when he joined the Confederate Army in the
1860s. He was described as 6 feet 1 inch tall,
with black hair, gray eyes, and light complexion.
His brother, who enlisted the same date, had
essentially the same description. By vocal
tradition their father was also tall.
I also have a photo of my G-Grandfather Strong
taken before his death in 1867 at a young age.
The photo confirms the black hair and fair
complexion. Since it is a black and white
photo, the color of eyes cannot be detected
except they were not black or dark brown.
Now how does a purported Anglo-Saxon end
up with black hair?
I happened to attend high school in the late
1940s with an attractive young lady named
Barbara ("Bobbie") Strong, who was of no
known relationship to me. She had black hair,
grey eyes, light complexion, and was of medium
to petite size. Recently I found her current
address and I hope to learn about her family
history. There were four or five different
Strong family lines that setted in the city where
I grew up and attended school.
On another Surname group there has been
some discussion of Black Irish and Black Dutch
and also Melungeons. I even received a
report from someone that a fellow named
Strong who resided in Robeson County, North
Carolina (where I have other ancestral lines)
was a Melungeon. There is a MAISER group
for the discussion of Melungeon families.
I was most inquisitive about what these terms
meant.
In brief, Black Irish were the products of marriages
between Irish and Spanish. Black Dutch were the
products of marriages between Dutch and Spanish.
These descendants often had "Latin" characteristics
of black hair and olive complexions, which
contasted with the prevalent blond hair, blue or
gray eyes, and light complexion of the general
population in Ireland and Holland.
I grew up in Louisiana where there were "Redbones".
This term was applied to interracially mixed persons
who descended from French, Spanish, British, Indian,
Mexican, Afro-American, and perhaps other racial
groups. Characteristics included usually dark hair,
ruddy dark complexions, and high cheek bones.
Melungeons, I have been informed, means essentially
the same thing as "Redbone" but was a term used in
Virginia and North Carolina. The fellow named
Strong in Robeson County, NC, was reported to be
part Lumber Indian.
As a youngster I would ask my Dad about our
heritage. He would brush off my question with
saying we were descended from English, Welsh,
Irish, etc. After I started researching my family's
history I discovered that my father really didn't
know the answer to my question. He could go
back only two generations in his knowledge of
the family, and he never knew his Strong grand-
parents, who died many years before he was
born. He did have the photo, though.
I have learned that some of my ancestors were
Dutch, some were Swiss, some were Scottish,
most were probably English, etc. But I still
wonder where the black hair came from...
Incidentallly, two brothers had black hair
but two sisters and I are blonde (brown), or
maybe I should say "were" naturally brown
haired when we young--before gray hair and
before bleaches and colorings were added.
Most of my Strong uncles, aunts, and first
cousins are blonde (brown-haired) with
blue or gray eyes and light complexions.
I am "tall and big" but few of my Strong
relatives were/are "tall and/or big". A
surviving brother is big but not tall. Most
of my relatives, including my father and
one brother, were of medium height and
medium build.
My wife has (had) dark auburn hair and
hazel eyes. All of my children have darker
brown, more coarse hair than I do and all
have hazel eyes.
My daughter married an Iranian fellow.
Their six year old daughter has Iranian
characteristics of dark brown hair, dark
brown eyes, and olive complexion. She
doesn't look like my stereotype of what a
Strong should look like, but she is beautiful,
If I may say so! Her Iranian grandmother
was an attractive woman.
What did/do your Strongs look like?
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Hi
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:43:26 -0500 (EST)
Dear Bob;
It's hard for me to determine what my Strongs looked like, probably
because it's my wife who was a Strong, so I lack the first 20 years of seeing the older
Strongs. If I look at my wife and her siblings I see mostly Hill features. If I look
at her father and his siblings I see mostly Barcus features. The only thing
that I can tell comes from the Strongs is tall and thin. I do have a picture
of her Strong great grandfather, and the best way I could describe him is Abraham
Lincoln, but better looking and no beard.
Jimmmmie
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs of Hanover Co., VA, in Rev. War
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 11:39:15 EST
ATTENTION: ALL, particularly Southern Strongs
Wade R. Watts (Merlinesk@aol.com)
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Wade: I discovered in my files the source of your
Revolutionary War military records.
Gwathmey, John H. HISTORICAL REGISTER OF
VIRGINIANS IN THE REVOLUTION: SOLDIERS,
SAILORS, MARINES, 1775-1783. Richmond, VA:
The Dietz Press, Publishers. (c) 1938.
The list of Strongs you cited is found on Page 747.
Charles Strong of Oglethorpe Co., GA, "mpl"
George Strong, 3rd Continental Line
John Strong, 3rd Continental Line
John Strong, Sgt., Hanover County, "mpl"
Johnson Strong of Fayette Co., AL, "mpl"
Sherwood Strong, 1779 record in Goochland Co., VA
service in 2nd VA Regiment
William Strong, Corp., 1st VA State Regiment
Sgt., 3rd Continental Line
Also on Page 46:
John Straughan, 11th Continental Line
Presley Straughan, Pvt., War Dept. record
John Straughn or Strong, 3rd Continetal LIne
11th Continental Line
John Strawn, 4th Light Dragoons
"mpl" = Militia Pension List. "Compiled from a
report of the Secretary of War in 1835, "Penions",
Volume II, of men receifing pensions for service
as Virginia Militiamen. Approximate ages in
1835 and counties of residence at that time
given. West Virginia still being a part of
Virginia."
NOTE: The inclusion of Sherwood Strong in the
above is an error. His service was in the French
and Indian Wars, fought intermittently 1754-1763.
The above records may be supplemented by the
records of the Daughters of the American Revolution
(DAR). In the DAR PATRIOT INDEX, for example,
you will find:
John Strong, 1763-1838, m. Mary Gibson,
John Strong, 1734-1815 [John Strong, III]
Pvt. Johnson Strong, 1758-1754, m. Mary Ann __?__,
Corp. William Strong, 1754-1823, m. Susan Nelson
Sgt. William Strong, Jr., 1758?-1810, m. Margaret Stokes
NOTE: The inclusion of John Strong, III, in the
above list is an error, as his service was in
the French and Indian Wars, some time between
1754-1753. I do not recognize Susan Nelson Strong.
The John Strong who married Mary Gibson was
from Norfolk Co., VA. He migrated to Cumberland
County, NC, to Copiah County, Mississippi, where
he was addressed as "Capt. John Strong." The
"Capt." was apparently an honorary rank.
John Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA, was
listed as a Lieutenant in the local militia on
27 SEP 1775. See Deed Book 4, pages 293-294.
Another source indicated that William Strong of VA
and John Strong of Hanover Co., VA, received bounty
land. [Was this John Strong, III, again?]
Revolutionary War Survivor's Pension File Numbers, with
residence in 1830s:
Charles Strong, service in VA, S31994 [Clarke Co., GA]
John Strong, service in VA, S7594 [Fluvanna Co., VA]
Johnson Strong, service in VA, S32542 [Fayette Co., AL]
DAR records show the following residents in Georgia
were soldiers in the Revolution.
Charles Strong [Son of John Strong, III]
Pensioner
Listed as RW soldier, 1827 land lottery
Listed as RW soldier, 1840 census
I. Strong, Quartermaster Sargeant
[possibly Isham Strong, son of William
of Buckingham Co., VA, during war.
He served in GA Militia, 1792-1796.]
J. [John?] Strong
[John Strong was a "refugee soldier",
as certified by officers of the Emanuel
County, GA, militia]
Robert Strong appeared on list of Georgia Troops
Muster of Col. John Stewart's Regiment
William Strong of Oglethorpe Co., GA
Received military land grant
Listed as RW soldier in 1827 land lottery
William Strong of Jones County
Listed as RW soldier in 1827 land lottery
Some of the above were sons of William Strong, Sr.,
formely of Buckingham County, VA. I do not
recognize the William Strong in Jones County
or the Robert Strong. Robert Strong, son of
Charles Strong, was born about 1769 so he was
not old enough to have served in the RW.
A Lt. William Strong served 1793-1794 in 2nd Rgmt.,
1st Bde, 3rd Div, Georgia Militia.
Christopher Strong of Chester County, SC, and Dickson
County, TN, was a soldier in the Revolution. I will
let his descendants tell his story.
Many Strongs from New England also served
honorably in the Revolutionary War. I will also
let our New England Strong researchers
tell their stories. Here are a couple of tidbits I
found in THE VIRGINIA GAZETTE newspaper.
"Major Strong was mortally wounded..."
apparently in Ulster County, New York, reported
in issue of 16 MAY 1777. Issue of 14 MAR 1777:
"On the 28th of January last, Daniel Strong, of
Dutchess County, a spy from the Enemy's army,
was executed at Peek's Hill, pursuant to a
sentence of a general court martial.
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Wade: I have finally remembered a third George
Strong in Virginia who could have served in the
military during the Revolutionary War: George
Strong, who was listed as a minor in the home
of Martin Strong, 2nd, on a 1782 tax list in Hanover
County, VA. Although under 21, this George Strong
was probably old enough to have served as a
soldier toward the end of the war, that is , around
1780-1783. Many underage young men lied about
their ages and enlisted in the army during the war.
I don't think I have ever seen any proof that this
George Strong was a R. W. soldier, so I am still
quite interested in the military records of George
Strong of the 3rd Regiment, Continental Line
[that is, "Regular" Army as opposed to local
militia, which we now call National Guard.]
George Strong of Hanover County subsequently resided
in Louisa County, VA. He was one of 13 siblings who
were identified in an 1830 Hanover County deed. Martin
Strong, 2nd, was still living in 1830. [My ancestor, Martin
Strong, 1st, had died by 1781.] The parents of these 13
Strongs have not been positively identified.
I would not be surprised if William Strong, brother of
George Strong, also served in the RW, although I have
seen no proof of that. I believe he died before pensions
were authorized. I seem to recall there were military
records for more than one William Strong from VA
serving in the the RW.
There was a John Strong from Hanover County who served
in the RW. He was related to George Strong, above;
he was an older brother. This John Strong later resided
in Fluvanna County, VA. In his pension application in
the 1830s, this John Strong said he was born in Cumberland
County, VA, around 1757. A search of the records of
Cumberland County in the 1750s and 1760s located only
one adult Strong, whose name was John. So this John
Strong, about whom practically nothing is known, was
the likely father of these 13 Strong siblings. John, from
Fluvanna County, said his father relocated from Cumberland
County to Hanover County around 1765. Ironically, they
were neighbors of John Stanley, the eldest, father of
Anne Stanley Strong, my ancestor, who most probably
was the wife of Martin Strong, 1st. Anne and her husband
and family apparently resided in western Hanover County
at this same time, that is, from their marriage in 1753/1754
until the dearh of Martin, 1st, about 1780/1781.
I obtained the R. W. pension application of the above John
Strong of Fluvanna County, contributed it to Jim Rolff,
who published it in his book.
[ASIDE: Anne Stanley married a Mr. __?__ Strong in late
1753 or early 1754. She does not appear in the records
of Goochland County until 1781, so she was obviously
residing in Hanover County, where Martin Strong (1st)
was taxed on land in 1763. Anne Stanley Strong was a
widow by 1781 when she apparently relocated to Goochland
County. None of her sons were old enough to have been
soldiers during the Revolution. But the known facts indicate
there were two Martin Strongs residing in Hanover County
near the Stanleys from around 1765 until around 1780 or
1781, when Martin Strong, 1st, died. The legal records of
Martin Strong, 2nd, BEGIN in 1782, as no tax records for
the period 1763-1780 were preserved in Hanover County.
Martin Strong, 1st, was born late 1720s or early 1730s.
Martin Strong, 2nd, was still alive in 1830. To have been
the same person, as some have purported, Martin would
have had to be around 100 years old or older in 1830.]
During the French and Indian Wars, we know that the
brothers John Strong (III) and Sherwood Strong served
in the Second Virginia Regiment. It was the policy at
that time that land owners were exempt from military
service as their occupation was critical to supporting
the war effort by providing provisions. Martin Strong,
1st, was probably exempted because he was a land
owner.
The same policy was probably in effect during the
Revolutionary War, although I have not confirmed this
from a study of the laws of Virginia. One of the
Martin Strongs in Hanover County contibuted a beef,
as I recall. It was probably Martin Strong, 1st, who
owned 200 acres (?) land in 1763--the only year prior
to 1781 (the 1782 tax list for the previous year) for
which tax records were preserved for this county.
Problem is, with two Martin Strongs in the same
county at the same time, it would be near impossible
to prove which one contributed the beef.
[Most Hanover County deeds prior to the War Between
the States were destroyed, also. Church of England
records, including vital statistics, were not preserved.
If it were not for the records of the Quakers, we would
have virtually no vital records for Hanover County
residents before and during the Revolutionary War. ]
Most of the names of R. W. soldiers you reported can
be identifed from our knowledge of the history of
Strongs in Virginia. Several sons of William Strong,
Sr., (son of John Strong, Jr., of Hanover County, and
grandson of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent County, VA)
either served as soldiers and/or performed public service
during the Revolution. Johnson Strong did both,
for example. William Strong, Jr., was a RW soldier.
Isham Strong may have served, but his service
appears to have been after the close of the war
and before the War of 1812. He may have been
killed "in the line of duty" as he was a "scout"
or "spy". I have been unable to confirm family
tradition that said that Sherwood Strong, son of
William, was also a soldier during the War for
Independence. John Strong, son of William,
may have served in the RW. I don't recall clearly
without checking references.
Johnson Strong said he enlisted in Hanover
County, VA, although his residence was in
Buckingham County after 1776. Johnson
Strong also worked in the Iron Factory as
an unpaid volunteer in addition to his own
military service. So he qualified as a "Patriot"
as well as a "Soldier" using the terminology
of the Daughters of the American Revolution.
You will find the Pension Application of Johnson
Strong very interesting. Some of these records
are transcribed or abstracted in Jim Rolff's book,
by the way. He described his travels to Missouri,
which prompted Jim Rolff to go to Cape
Girardeau County, MO, where he found numerous
records of Johnson Strong and relatives.
[During the Revolution, William Strong, son of
John Strong, Jr., was residing in Buckingham
County, VA, having moved there in 1776 from
Goochland County. Most civil records of this
county for the RW years were destroyed.
Some church records were preserved, though.
I seem to recall that there are references to
this family in Baptist church records, which I
have not researched. Tax records, but not
marriage records, were presered.]
John Strong, III, was residing in Goochland
County, VA, in the 1770s and most of the
1780s. His son, Charles Strong, was a soldier in the
RW. John Strong contributed provisions to the
war effort. John was not himself a soldier during
the war, as has been purported by some.
Charles Strong filed a RW pension application
from Georgia, stating he was born in Hanover
County, VA, around 1763.
[Some of William Strong's descendants also
claimed my ancestor, Mary Tibbs Strong, wife of
Sherwood Strong, III, as theirs, confusing
Sherwood, II, and Shewood, III. And claims
that Sherwood Strong, II, was a soldier in the
Revolution appear to be based on the F & I
military service of Shewood Strong, 1st. That
is, Sherwood Storng, II, was confused with
Sherwood Strong, I, as well as Sherwood
Strong, III. We have learned a lot about these
persons since that allows us to differentiate
them.]
I believe that covers most of the names you
mentioned, Wade. If I left anyone out, remind
me of their names.
The Strongs in Virginia were fortunate not to have
lost any of its "sons" in the Revolutionary War.
As suggested above, Isham Strong, son of William
of Buckinghom County, died young and probably
while he was serving as a "scout or spy" for the
U. S. Army after the Revolution. We know nothing
about the circumstances of his death, but can only
speculate that he was killed while "scouting" or
"spying" on Indian activities.
One of the sons-in-law of William Strong, Sr. [of
Buckingham County during the RW, but of Clarke
County, GA, in 1812] was killed during the
War of 1812. Jame Strong married first __?__
Bridgewater. Somewhere I have a record of his
name but cannot locate it at the moment. He
will be listed in War of 1812 military records.
Enough for today? I hope this will be of interest
and use to some of you Rebels in our Discussion
Group.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: Re: George Strong's Military Records; the Nathan Strong family
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:08:49 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <970307010849_1981470401@emout19.mail.aol.com>
Re: George Strong military... this would be Rev. War Service. The 2
volumes of Eckenrode that I have is strictly Rev. War. I believe he may
have done the same with F&I or other colonial wars, but if he did--I
haven't seen them. There were only 2 VA regiments in the F& I war. When
the Rev. began there were still the 2 rgt. of state troops. Eckenrode
distinguishes between the VA rgt. raised for the continental troops by
referring to the soldier as VSR (VA state rgt) and VR (VA Rgt.). There
were several VA "regular " rgts. (VR) some of them changed designation
several time so a soldier may be listed with service with the 7th VA and
10th VA and it was still the same rgt, just the name changed. I believe
the "state troops" were made up from militia units. the 1st & 2nd rgts
of VA state troops were also incorporated for a time into the continental
army---I'll have to get more specifics about that. Anyhow, the service
that I quoted to you for George, William, John and one I missed, Johnson
Strong, were all Revolutionary War Service. The War Dept Doc. won't be
much help, I don't think as I believe they are payrolls of units in
continental service.
I'm going to Louisville tomorrow (Fri) so I probably won't get back to
you 'til Sun. I hope to have more info for you then.
I won't get the info on Chas. WT Strong to the newsletter for a couple of
days. One thing that does strike me as different. It seems the Strong
family used a lot of middle names even in the 18th century which I think
was unusual in VA. In fact, Noah seemed to use two middle names several
times. Middle names weren't so unusual in the 19th cent., but two
middle names were. Am I correct on this? Is this a valid observation for
the Southern Strongs in general?
Wade
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From: Jimmmmie@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Hi
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:47:24 -0500 (EST)
Dear Bob;
Regarding your letter "Jim Rolff's Book; LDS Ancestral File", I agree
that what is coming back from LDS about our Strong family is mostly from my
book. I also agree that they are stating as fact several things that I was
clearly saying MIGHT BE. Some of these things I don't believe myself anymore,
like the Mary Webster thing. I can understand why LDS does this, because they
are sort of mass producing genealogy, and don't have time to dwell on
details. I think that they should probably put some sort of warning label on
the stuff they put out from other sources. I also think that all researchers
should realize that what they get from LDS, or books, or
disks, etc. are only CLUES, and they should send for the RECORDS. I'm not mad
at LDS, because they are also spreading my many good CLUES, and as for as
ruining book sales, I only have three left. As for the "several issues" we
disagree on, I disagree that there are several. I think there's only one. The
things you mentioned about "persons named Martin Strong" and " Anne Stanley
Strong" I consider your
branch of the family, so I believe whatever you say because I trust your
research. I'm
getting old so I don't even remember if we ever disagreed on those things,
and I sure don't remember any details. The one thing that I know we do
disagree on is the question of whether John Strong(1) was an immigrant, or
maybe a grandson of the William Strong that was in Virginia much earlier. I
don't really think that we should disagree on that point, but rather I think
we should both think: "I think this way, he thinks that way, but really it
could be either way" On the one hand you have a couple of records that look
good, but neither are SURELY our John Strong. On the other hand I have
Strongs already sitting there in the right area. Where did their descendants
go if they weren't our Strongs? Let's be AGGRESSIVE. Let's prove that we
have a VIRGINIA Strong who came here in 1619, BEFORE Elder John Strong.
Jimmmmie
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From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: JOHN STRONG (1763-1838)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 12:19:51 -0800
I found the following information concerning a John Strong who died in
Copiah Co., MS:
Published in the Liberty Advocate newspaper, Liberty, MS: Died Copiah
Co., MS - 28th September 1838 - JOHN STRONG, a Revolutionary Soldier in
the 75th year of his age.
The US census records for 1820 MS show:
John Strong - Marion Co., MS 010311-00002
David Strong - Pike Co., MS 100010-11010
Joseph Strong - Pike Co., MS 511301-12010
US census for 1830 MS show:
John Strong, Sr. - Copiah Co., MS 00201-00101
John Strong, Jr. - Copiah Co., MS 20200-40100
James Strong - Copiah Co., MS 40100-00100
Nelson Strong - Copiah Co., MS 20100-00100
William Strong - Copiah Co., MS 00100-00100
Joseph Strong - Claiborne Co., MS 41100-12000
Stephen H. Strong - Amite Co., MS 00100-00000
Does anyone know whether the above John Strong (1763-1838) is one of
the early Rockingham Co., NC Strongs? I have the Strong Index for
Mississippi covering the 1860 & 1870 U. S. Census if anyone is
interested in a look-up.
Re Ancestral Files.
My opinion is that no one should put their faith in the LDS data or
DAR records. Volunteers at the LDS FHC continually warn people about
the Ancestral File. As highly touted as the DAR, I found DAR records
contained info that my 4th GGF's brother lived to be 105, which is
impossible, as I have court documents proving the brother died at age 45.
The main purpose of the LDS files is a means of finding clues and fellow
researchers. Bear in mind that most of the submissions for the Ancestral
File you are now seeing, are quite dated, and new submissions take about
4 years to be included. Heaven only knows when or if corrections will be
made. Prior to the Internet, the Ancestral File was one of the best means
of finding fellow researchers. Now, thanks to the many Family Groups on
the Net, we have immediate access to people working on our same family
lines, and can have discussions with wonderful genealogists such as
Robert Strong and James R. Rolff, and I truly appreciate your efforts-
past & present!
Francie
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: What does a Strong look like?
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:37:16 -0500 (EST)
My father and his father had black hair/blue eyes. My uncle (my father's
brother) was blonde and blue. I read somewhere - I think in one of Kate W.
Strong's booklets - that most of the Strongs she knew had black hair and blue
eyes, and credited the Brewster line with the eyes. If my genetics serve,
both lines would have had to have had the gene. One of my ancestors was
described as 5'11 and 180 lbs. Also, my father's hair was curly, my uncle's
less so. I think that came from their mother's side. Not sure. Most
pictures I've seen have wavy hair on her, pretty short on him. In fact, I
have one -- I'll put it on my page. As soon as I can find it. :-) Mine, is
decidedly straight, so my dad carried one straight gene.
I will have another look at George Templeton STrong's diary and see if there
are any physical descriptions. I think there are.
I met a STRONG in college in 1966 who also had black hair and light eyes, but
do not recall other features mentioned herein. He was also abt 6'. Maybe a
tad less. He came from central NY somewhere, and I would LOVE to hear from
him about now. He called me initially on the pretext that he'd like to know
if we were related. 30 something years later, I'd like to know that, too,
and feel like we can finally HAVE that discussion.
My father was abt 6'1", and my uncle a tad taller. I don't know how tall
their father was. We all (my cousins included) seem to have inherited an
ample bottom. I KNOW that did not come from my mother's side, as she and all
her siblings, aunts and uncles together could not equal a Strong bottom if
their lives depended upon it.
There are whole clans of Irish who have black hair and blue eyes. Can't
remember my Irish history too well today, but it does seem to me that VERY
early on - as early as 1066? - a guy named STRONGBOW kind of sold out the
Irish to the English.
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: SUBSCRIBERS to STRONG Mail List, 7 MAR 97
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 22:06:37 EST
>From the keyboard of Bob Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way
Madison, AL 35758-7113
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
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ROBERT'S RAMBLINGS
I think I have already written too much this week!
By sharing with one another, a couple of our
subscribers have made some progress in discovering
their ancestry this week. In that regard it has been
a good week. Thomas Matthews has been assigned
as a descendant of William Strong, Sr., of New
Kent County, VA. Wade R. Watts, who is corresponding
on behalf of Susan Strong Haden, will probably be
assigned to the family of John Strong, Jr., of Hanover
County, VA, soon. A little more research is needed
in Missouri records to firm this conclusion.
By default, our group has decided that we will NOT
request Larry V. Stephens, Manager of the Surname
List System at MAISER, to provide digests for our
STRONG Family History Discussion Group.
Mr. Stephens is swamped with messages. His request
is that you contact me bofore contacting him about
any problems. If I am unable to assist you, then
we will contact Larry. The one thing you should
write directly to Mr. Stephens about is if you want
to start your own Surname Mail List.
Mr. Stephens said he would announce a new set
of files that can be downloaded via request to
MAISER, but I have not seen that announcement
yet. These files include an index to all Surname
Lists, Regional Lists, and Special Interest Lists
that are currently available. I believe there are
now five, rather than three, numbered files in
this set.
I have been so busy this week with messaging
that I have made no further progress in getting
my own archive system re-organized, including
reposting some old messaged for the benefit
of new subscribers.
I have also made no progress on my book abour
my Strong ancestors and allied families. Oh...
did I tell you my old dot matrix printer deceased?
I now have a neat little Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5L,
which prints beautifully (in black and white only)
and also quietly. I won't wake my wife up at 3 or 4
AM if I want to print something at that time. So I
need to get busy and get the portion of my book
that has been written re-printed. And I need to
finish writing the book. The unfinished portion
will be mostly Family Group Sheets printed from
a genealogy database. I need to find a program
that will permit me to control the page numbering
on Family Group Sheets. Family Origins for
Window makes a great FGS, but it prints Page 1,
and Page 2 if applicable, on every FGS and insists
on putting a Preparer's Box and Comment Box at
the botton of the first page of every FGS. I do not
want these features but do want to be able to add
a Book Page Number to each page. Does anyone
know a genealogy database program that will fill
my needs? I would love to receive a Family Group
Sheet from each of you, printed with whichever
genealogy database program you use, with the
program identified.
"On a clear night you can see..." a comet in the
northeast sky about 4 or 4:30 in the morning. Take
advantage of this once in a lifetime event. It is
the first comet I have seen in my 65 years. [As of
January, I am a gen-u-wine Senior Citizen.]
Have a great week, ya'll!
If you know a Strong, etc., researcher who is not
already subscribed, please send then an invitation to
join us, to learn about our families, and to share
information about their families.
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have not been posted in the past month. Just please
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Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England]
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Other Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Gerry Strong)
Strongs of Scotland and Ireland and South Carolina
Charles Strong, b. Scotland, d. 1783 Ireland
Letitia Strong (b. 1766, Ireland-d. 1837, SC)
m. 1778 James STRONG, Jr. (b.1749, IRE -d.1829, SC)
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
Christopher Strong, b. 1760 IRE; d. 1850, Dickson Co., TN
lbetts@cphl.mindspring.com (Lowry Betts)
mcculler@mindspring.com (Jim McCuller)
Strongs of Ireland and South Carolina
James Strong, Sr. b.1709 Ireland; d, 1779 Chester Co., SC
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Descendants of Return Strong (son of John) and Sarah Warham
Sarah Strong m. 1696 (Capt.) John Higley in Windsor, CT
WHigleyjr@aol.com (Wayne Higley, Jr.)
Possible descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
JBleaux@aol.com (Joe Ticknor Breeze)
[Tabitha Strong of Salisbury, Litchfield Co., CT
m. 1772 John Ticknor (or Tickner)]
dparker@ma.ultranet.com ( Dick Parker)
[George Strong of Marblehead, MA]
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
ATHACKNEY@aol.com (Allan T. Hackney)
[Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey]
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
[James STRONG b. 1727; d. 1804, York Co., PA:
Great Britain ? > PA > OH ]
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
[Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH]
Strongs of Central U.S.
edwart@sdcpos3c.daytonoh.ncr.com [Teresa L. Edwards]
Nancy Jane Strong Fleetwood, d. 1898, Douglas Co., MO
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Jimmmmie@aol.com (James R. Rolff m. Sandra Strong)
unkletom@cctrap.com (Thomas Mathews)
James Strong, b. KY, about 1844
Daniel W. Strong of Gainesville, Ozark Co., MO
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John, Sr.
Descendants of Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
ccason@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
DStrong155@aol.com (Dave Strong)
Descendants of Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC
and Lawrence Co., MS
ldooley@dexter.net (Leanne Dooley)
Descendants of unidentified Strongs of Rockingham Co., NC
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
Probable descendant of John Strong, Jr., Hanover Co., VA
Probable descendant of David Strong of Giles Co., TN
Susan Strong Haden %
Merlinesk@aol.com (Wade R. Watts)
STRAWN Family researchers:
JJStrawn@msn.com
STRAUGHAN Family researchers:
russie@bellsouth.net (Norma Straughan Russie)
John Wm. STRAUGHAN, b. 20 DEC 1842, ENG > VA
STRANG Family researchers:
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W. Bratt)
[STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's]
STRANGE Family researchers:
Helen@strange1.demon.co.uk
[James Strange of London, ENG, abt 1780 & descendants.]
Lineage unidentified or unknown or not clear.
Some subscribers have not posted their lineage.
hereford@cdc.net
KELASN@aol.com (Kelly __?__)
JSGR@aol.com
moss44@seark.net
joerob@beaches.net
deborah@oz.sunflower.org
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From: Thomas Weir
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONGS in Tipton Co, TN 1837/8
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:19:30 -0800 (PST)
I recently came across a book listing the Tipton County, Tennessee Tax
Roll, 1837-1838, written by Four Scribes, POBox 682, Buffalo, TX 75831 in
1987. It lists the following STRONGS:
FORENAME ACRES VALUE$ COUNTY TAX$ SLAVES POLL
1837
Christopher 228 12,070 8.44
Robert 744 4,808 3.43 3 1
William 985 8,400 5.88 5 1
Christopher 482 3,000 2.10 0 0
1838
Christopher 2295 12,090 6.44 0 0
Charles 442 3,000 1.50 0 1
John 250 2,000 1.00 0 0
1830 Tipton County Heads of Households: NO Strongs listed.
Tom Weir
weir@u.washington.edu
(206)747-8480
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: JOHN STRONG (b. Norfolk Co., VA, 1763-d. Copiah Co., MS, 1838)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 01:03:49 EST
Hi, Francie Lane!
Thanks for sharing the data you found
on "Captain" John Strong of Copiah
County, MS, and the census records of
Strongs in Mississippi.
I was tempted to give as a subject line:
"He's in the book!" That's Jim Rolff's
book, of course. See Chapter 19:
"Edward Strong". John Strong was
probably a son of Edward Strong.
There is an update on "Edward Strong
of Norfolk County, VA" in STRONG FAMILY
HISTORIES, VOLUME V, pages 47-78.
The names and addresses of five descendants
and/or researchers of this family may be found
on page 78.
There is no proven connection between
the family of Edward Strong of Norfolk
County, VA, and the family of John
Strong of New Kent County, VA,
which includes the Pittsylvania Co.,
VA, and Rockingham Co., NC, Strongs.
Rolff has been the primary researcher
of the Strongs in those two counties.
I should NEVER rely on my memory
when it comes to details of family
history but sometimes you THINK you
know something and don't take time
to verify it. In a message I wrote
yesterday--or was it earlier today--about
Strongs who served in the Revolutionary
War from Virginia, mainly, I said this
John Strong migrated from Norfolk
County, VA, to Cumberland County, NC,
to Copiah Co., MS. Scrath Cumberland
County, NC. It was Richmond County,
NC, instead.
[I knew it was a county where I had done
research on another line. My McNairs and
allied families were from the part of Richmond
County that is now Scotland County, NC. I
"found" John Strong while researching
Richmond County records. Jim Rolff, who
had been researching Strongs of Virginia
for several years at that time, recognized
his connection to the Norfolk County, VA,
Strongs. I have other family lines in
Robeson and Cumberland Counties, not
far from Richmond Co.]
Rolff added that John Strong resided in
South Carolina from about 1800 to 1807,
based on John Strong's obituary in a
published newpaper article.
Perhaps Jim Rolff will share more about
the Strongs of Norfolk County, VA, with our
Discussion Group.
Thanks, too, for your kind words about
Jim and me. But neither of us have
earned the right to be called "Genealogists".
At least neither of us are certified or
licensed and neither of us have ever
been "professional" genealogists. We
do this as amateurs for a hobby. We
started out just like everyone else:
just a-looking for an ancestor, looking
anywhere and everywhere. At least it
took me a while to become more
focused and organized. I was fortunate
to get some good mentoring from some
certified genealogist "cousins" as well
as a lot of stimulation and positive
reinforcement from Jim Rolff and others who
particpated in his Newsletter in the early 1980s.
Our STRONG Discussion Group is now providing
the same lavel of stimulation and motivation
--at least for me.
When I began my search, I was looking
for a tree. By that time, Jim Rolff was
looking at a forest. His perspective
was much more comprehensive than
my own then.
Keep searching and you will keep learning.
Best wishes for success in your search
for your Strong ancestry and/or connection.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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Excepts from a message
From: Francie Lane
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: JOHN STRONG (1763-1838)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 12:19:51 -0800
I found the following information concerning a John Strong
who died in Copiah Co., MS:
Published in the Liberty Advocate newspaper, Liberty, MS:
Died Copiah Co., MS - 28th September 1838 - JOHN STRONG,
a Revolutionary Soldier in the 75th year of his age.
The US census records for 1820 MS show:
Does anyone know whether the above John Strong (1763-1838)
is one of the early Rockingham Co., NC Strongs? I have the
Strong Index for Mississippi covering the 1860 & 1870 U. S.
Census if anyone is interested in a look-up.
Now, thanks to the many Family Groups on the Net, we have
immediate access to people working on our same family
lines, and can have discussions with wonderful genealogists
such as Robert Strong and James R. Rolff, and I truly appreciate
your efforts-past & present!
Francie
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: David Strong Family, Giles County, TN
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 09:06:06 EST
ATTENTION: Wade R. Watts
Jim Rolff
This morning I came across this note, received from
James Rolff in a letter dated 6 APR 1986.
"Did I tell you that a lady bought my book [and that she]
is almost surely a descendant of David Strong of Giles
County, Tennessee, and that she said that the Michael
Strong of Indianapolis is her cousin?..."
The name and address of this lady were not stated.
If she is a descendant of David Strong and also a
cousin of Michael Strong, that would mean that Michael
Strong's ancestor, Thomas Strong of Lauderdale County,
Alabama, was a son of David Strong of Giles County,
Tennessee, as I suggested in a recent message.
JIM: Do you have a record of this lady's name and
address?
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONGS in Tipton Co, TN, and etc.
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 09:06:06 EST
ATTENTION: Tom Weir
Funny you should mention Strongs of Tipton County, TN.
A couple days ago I re-discovered some data in my
file about Strongs of Tipton County, TN.
In JUN 1991 I received a letter and package of information
from Mrs. Audrey Barnes Westerman, 707 Highway 304,
Thibodaux, LA 70301. Copies of the same letter were
addressed to the following:
Mrs. Isabelle Strong, 3039 Homewood Cove, Memphis, TN 38128
William Brown, Box 236, Montreat, NC 28757
I presume the above two persons are researchers of Strongs
in Tipton County, TN.
The package included much information about the Strongs
of Tipton County, Tennessee, relatives of Christopher
Strong of Dickson County, TN. Mrs. Westerman had abstracted
the Strong wills in Tipton County, and Strong marriages in
Tipton and Shelby Counties [Memphis], Tennesse, for example.
She also sent a printout of a Soundex report of all Strongs in
Tennessee in 1910, by county.
She stated: "I have no proof the John Strong - Martha Strong
line is mine...My suspician was [their] son, William A. Strong,
could be my maternal grandfather, 'Will" [William Samuel or
Samuel William], who married Mary Arminda 'Mindy" Wright
in St. Francis County, Arkansas."
"TO THE TIPTON COUNTY group: Origins appear to be
Chester County, South Carolina, then to Pendleton District,
then Dickson County, Tennessee....It is possible that the
Shelby County group is also of that line..." Mrs. Westerman
included in her packet a copy of a report she had prepared,
entitled "Ancestors and Descendants of John Strong and
Martha Strong". Her report begins with James Strong,
b. 1709, father of Robert, and grandfather of John Strong
who married Martha Strong, who was a daughter of James
and Letitia Strong. This report is six pages typewritten.
I have previously reported that the book, STRONG FAMILY
HISTORIES, VOLUME V, includes a section on Christopher
Strong and his descendants, some in Obion County, TN.
This article was submitted by Mr. James E. McCuller, Jr.,
441 Saint Simons Cove, Lawrenceville, GA 30244-5373.
I believe we have a subscriber to the STRONG Mail List
who is probably a descendant of James Elbert and Elizabeth
(Hassell) McCuller and who has been very quiet on the
STRONG Discussion Group as yet.
I was surprised to note a Strong-Farrar marriage in
the Chester County, SC, Strongs. I have data on the
ancestry of Field Farrar, if anyone is interested in that.
Just yesterday, I think, I was contacted by a Farrar
researcher. After extensively researching Farrars
I discovered I have no connection to that family.
At the Tennessee State Library and Archives in Nashville,
TN, I noted records of about 25 land grants to Christopher
Strong. In my haste I did not take time to abstract these
records. His descendants and relatives and researchers
of the Chester County, SC, Stong line will surely be
interested in those records.
Bob Strong, Manager, STRONG Mail List
Robert T. Strong, Jr., 119 Mystic Way, Madison, AL 35758
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: Thomas Weir
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONGS in Tipton Co, TN 1837/8
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:19:30 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
I recently came across a book listing the Tipton County, Tennessee Tax
Roll, 1837-1838, written by Four Scribes, POBox 682, Buffalo, TX 75831 in
1987. It lists the following STRONGS:
FORENAME ACRES VALUE$ COUNTY TAX$ SLAVES POLL
1837
Christopher 228 12,070 8.44
Robert 744 4,808 3.43 3 1
William 985 8,400 5.88 5 1
Christopher 482 3,000 2.10 0 0
1838
Christopher 2295 12,090 6.44 0 0
Charles 442 3,000 1.50 0 1
John 250 2,000 1.00 0 0
1830 Tipton County Heads of Households: NO Strongs listed.
Tom Weir
weir@u.washington.edu
(206)747-8480
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From: DStrong155@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: What does a Strong look like?
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:15:26 -0500 (EST)
This is my first attempt at logging on, so someone let me know if this works.
As for my family, most of them have been isolated in the hills of Clay
County, Tennessee for close to 180 years. So the clans in that area are very
close with every one being related to each other.
Most of the Strong's, literally hundreds, have similar features:
5'-10" to 6'-5" lean to average build
Dark hair (usually dark brown to black) the men usually keep a thick head of
hair that turns silver gray in their late 30's to mid 40's.
They have blue gray eye color with some brown eyes.
very dark complexed, this is allgedly from some native american cherokee
blood lines that was claimed in several cherokee applications by the Strong
Desc. of this area in 1912. Over 100 applications were made claimimg to be
desc. of a Polly Hooker-Rich of North Carolina.
The is a term called the "Strong Temper" that is commonly used by most of the
relatived.
A square jaw with high cheek bones is also common.
Hope this works,
Dave
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From: moss44@seark.net (R W MOSS)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG- Susanna
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:54:50 -0600
Hello...
I need proof that Susanna STRONG (named as daughter Susanna MOSS in 1816
GaClarke LWT of William STRONG) was married (1790c, location unknown) to
John MOSS, my ggg-grandfather.
I have strong (pardon the unintended pun) circumstantial evidence, but no
proof...
I know that William STRONG and his wife Frances JOHNSON were in VaGoochland
in 1764 (the DOUGLAS REGISTER records the birth of their first child at that
time) and that he died 1816 GaClarke. Can anyone fill in the years between
for me?
Thanks...
Randy
__________________________________________
R W Moss 501 543-6086 day
1728 Harmony Church Road 501 536-8552 nite
Pine Bluff, Ar Moss44@seark.net
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: MOSS, Susanna Strong
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 01:52:38 EST
Hello to you, Randy!
William Strong and his wife, Francis ("Fannie") Johnson,
of western Hanover County, VA, married by 1757, as their
son, Johnson, stated he was born in Hanover County in
1758. In 1759, they purchased land in Goochland County,
VA. Will give more details later. Their land was on Allen's
Creek, as I recall, in the northeastern part of the county,
possibly near Johnson's Springs. Other Strongs came later,
settling on waters of the Lickinghole Creek in the "upper" or
western part of the county.
In 1776, William Strong and family relocated to Buckingham
County, VA. They were there during the Revolution and
afterward. Soon after the Revolution, though, they started
to migrate to Georgia. For a long time it was thought that
William Strong, Jr., was the first to go to Georgia, but tax
lists for Buckingham County seem to prove it was William
Strong, Sr., who first went to Georgia. I will try to provide
more details later. By around 1800, all of William Strong's
sons and sons-in-laws appeared to be in Georgia.
The marriage records of Buckingham County, VA, for the
period of your interest were not preserved. Tax lists were
preserved. I have heard that some records of the Baptist
Church were preserved and contain some information
about the family of William Strong. I have not researched
these records and have not seen details regarding the
William Strong family therein.
>From the tax lists you should be able to determine whether
there were any Moss families in Buckingham County. Also
check the 1790 "census", which is actually tax lists for
the period 1782-1785, in lieu of the 1790 census.
In Georgia, records of this family were first found in Wilkes
County and Franklin County, as I recall. Then they are
found in Oglethorpe and Clarke Counties. Again, this is
very sketchy and I will try to provide more details later.
The following record, published in Jim Rolff's book on
page 265, should interest you.
"Clarke County, Georgia, September 1, 1817.
John Moss, Guardian of William, Willis, Fanny, James,
Archer, Sussanah Moss, minors of John Moss. William
Flippen, surety."
I suspect that more records about this Moss family can
be found in the Courthouse of Clarke County, GA, at
the Georgia State Archives in Atlanta, and/or in the Library
of the University of Georgia at Athens. To my knowlege,
no one has systematically abstracted the records of the
William Strong family in Clarke County, GA.
It is past midnight, so I will not write further tonight.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: moss44@seark.net (R W MOSS)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG- Susanna
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:54:50 -0600
Message-ID: <10812523540@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
Hello...
I need proof that Susanna STRONG (named as daughter
Susanna MOSS in 1816 Ga, Clarke [County] LWT of William
STRONG) was married (1790c, location unknown) to John
MOSS, my ggg-grandfather.
I have strong (pardon the unintended pun) circumstantial
evidence, but no proof...
I know that William STRONG and his wife Frances JOHNSON
were in Va, Goochland [County], in 1764 (the DOUGLAS
REGISTER records the birth of their first child at that time)
and that he died 1816 Ga, Clarke [County]. Can anyone fill
in the years between for me?
Thanks...
Randy
___________________________________________
R W Moss 501 543-6086 day
1728 Harmony Church Road 501 536-8552 nite
Pine Bluff, Ar Moss44@seark.net
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From: Varow48@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Re: What does a Strong look like?
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:01:56 -0500 (EST)
One more thing on this subject. The Strongs have an "aquiline" nose - at
least that is where my sister said she got her nose. Mine came from the
Danish side, and two or three of my sisters appear to have Carter noses.
This is interesting, becasue if my memory of my Carter great-grandfather is
accurate, he, too, had a rather aquiline nose. This would suggest that my
grandmother possibly got her nose from the Boorman side - Only thing is she
married a 1c1r - her mother-in-law was her aunt Esther Boorman, sister to her
grandfather Robert Boorman. But Louis Bergner Strong is said to have that
nose.
My father, too, had silver gray hair. And plenty of it if you count area of
the scalp covered. He kept it Marine short. But two or three of my sisters
also have very thick hair, which HAD to come from his side.
Sandi
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strongs of Buckingham County, VA, 1782-1794, & Clarke Co., GA, 18
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 18:10:33 EST
In 1776, William Strong sold his land in Goochland
County, VA, and relocated to Buckingham County.
As indicated in a previous message, serveral of his
sons served as soldiers in the Revolutionary War.
Sons Johnson Strong and William Strong, Jr., were
definitely soldiers during the war.
Because of the destruction of most civil records of
Buckingham County, VA, including loss of marriage
records, for this period, research on the family of William
Strong has been difficult. It is perhaps fortunate that
the family relocated to Georgia where many of their
records were preserved, giving a good view of the
family of William Strong and Frances Johnson Strong.
On a research and vacation trip to Salt Lake City,
Utah, James R. (Jim) Rolff went to the LDS Family
History Center, where he found the Personal Property
tax lists for Buckingham County, VA, beginning with
the list dated 1782. The taxes were usually assessed
for the previous calendar year, so this first list was
possibly for the calendar year 1781. Jim shared his
findings with me in a letter postmarked 28 JUL 1983.
This was after the publication of his book.
We know from his Revolutionary War Survivors's
Pension Application that Johnson Strong was likely
the eldest son. He swore he was born about 1758
while his parents were still residing in [St. Martin's
Parish] Hanover County, VA. Their deed of purchase
of land in Goochland County, VA, in 1759 clearly
stated that William and Frances Johnson were
residents of St. Martin's Parish, which is the western
one-half of Hanover County.
I will summarize the Buckingham County tax lists
in narrative style and make additional observations
along the way.
On the 1782 PP List, William Strong was assessed tax
on two while male tithables over age 21, Sherwood
Strong and William Strong. He was also taxed for
12 slaves, 6 horses and mules, and 29 cattle. This
record proves that Sherwood and William Strong, Jr.,
were sons of William Strong, Sr, and that they were
both born in 1761 or earlier. Johnson Strong was not
accounted for on the 1782 list. But we know that
William and Frances Strong had three sons born 1761
or earlier, so they had probably been married 5 or 6
years in 1761, or by 1755 or 1756. [No marriage
records for Hanover County were preserved either.]
1783 PP Tax List: Isham Strong had come of age
21 or over, so he was born around 1762, when his
parents was residing on the waters of the Allen
Creek in Goochland County. William Strong was
taxed for three adult sons (Sherwood, William, Jr.,
and Isham) , plus 12 slaves, 4 horses and mules,
and 23 cattle. Johnson Strong was taxed for himself,
one horse, and 5 cattle. He had apparently married
and had set up a separate household. How much
earlier he became a head of household is uncertain
since no tax lists before 1782 are available. It is
also uncertain when Sherwood, William, Jr., and
Isham married. All we know is that they were still
residing with their parents in 1783.
[According to THE DOUGLAS REGISTER, Isham Strong
was born 22 APR 1764, so he would have become age
21 on that date in 1785.]
1784 PP Tax List: William Strong, Sr., Johnson
Strong, and William Strong, Jr. were listed as heads
of households. William Strong, Sr., was taxed for
two (2) white males tithes over age 21 [himself and
probably Isham Strong], and seven (7) free male tithes,
age 16-20, 13 slaves, 3 horses and mules, and 27 cattle.
[I have based this interpretation of the column headings
on some other counties for which I have abstracted
PP Tax Lists.] Johnson and William Strong, Jr., were
each taxed on themselves plus two free males of
ages 16-20.
For the remaining years I will skip over some of the
tabulations and focus on the persons named as heads
of households.
1785 PP Tax List: William, Sr; Johnson; William, Jr.,
Sherwood; and Elijah Strong. So in 1785, Sherwood
and Elijah were apparently of age 21 or over and
heads of their own households. They were thus born
1764 or earlier and probably married about 1784 or
1785.
One of the two William Strongs was not accounted
for on the 1786 and following PP Tax Lists, suggesting
they may have removed from the county.
1788 PP Tax List: John Strong was listed as a tithe of
William Strong, suggesting that it was William Strong, Jr.,
who had departed. John Strong was age 16 or over in
1788.
[THE DOUGLAS REGISTER indicates that John Strong was
born in Goochland County on 12 APR 1768, so in 1788 he
would have been age 19 before 12 APR and age 20 after
12 APR.]
1789 PP Tax List: William [which one?], Johnson,
Sherwood, Sherwood, Elijah, and John Strong were
listed as heads of households. Each was taxed for
one poll, himself.
>From the 1790 to the 1794 PP Tax Lists, only three of
these Strong households remained in Buckingham
County: William Strong (with John a tithe on the lists
dated 1790 and 1791), Johnson and Sherwood Strong.
So William Strong, Jr., Elijah Strong, and Isham
Strong departed for Geogia before the 1790 PP Tax
List was prepared. John Strong was in Buckingham
County for the 1791 PP Tax List, but not afterward.
He apparently departed for Georgia before the 1792
PP Tax List was prepared.
On the list dated 1793, S. Bridgewater was listed as
a tithe in the household of William Strong. He would
thus be the future son-in-law of William Strong, Sr., ,
the first of three husbands of his daughter, Jane Strong.
"S. Bridgewater" died or was killed while a soldier in the
War of 1812. [Samuel Bridgewater was a resident of
Clarke County, GA, in 1805.]
On the PP Tax List dated 1794, William Strong "(R.S.)";
Johnson Strong ("D.W."); and Sherwood Strong were
taxed. I had previously believed that the "R.S." stood
for Revolutonary Soldier, which would indicate this
was William Strong, Jr., but after typing this analysis,
I no long believe that is the correct interpretation.
I have no idea what the "D.W." signifies, either.
William Strong, Sr., Johnson Strong, and Shewood
Strong obviously departed for Georgia in 1794 or
1795--before the 1795 tax list was prepared.
[By the 1810 PP Tax List there was a(nother) John
Strong in Buckingham County, VA. This appears to
have been John Strong, son of Anne Stanley Strong
of Goochland County, VA, where her records appear
1781 - 1803. This John Strong had an elderly woman
in his household in 1810; she was possibly Anne
Stanley Strong, who would have been around 75-80
years of age in 1810.]
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Land-Office Military Warrant Number 3935 for 200
acres land was issued to William Strong "In consideration
of his services for Three years as a Corporal in the
Virginia State Line...agreeable to a certificate from the
Governor and Council received into the Land Office.
Given under my hand, and the Seal of the said office,
this 1 day of August in th eyear one thousand seven
hundred and 85."
The above warrant for a military land grant, issued in
1785, apparently to William Strong, Jr., appears to have
triggered the migration of the William Strong family
to Georgia. Notice that in 1786 William Strong [Jr.] is
no longer in Buckingham County, VA.
INDEX TO THE HEADRIGHT AND BOUNTY LAND GRANTS
OF GEORGIA, 1756-1909:
William Strong [Jr.] received two grants of land in 1786:
one for 200 acres in Wilkes County and one for 50 acres
in Wilkes County. Recorded in Grant Book LLL, pages
219 and 261. In 1790, William Strong [which one?]
received a grant of 575 acres in Franklin County, GA,
recorded in Grant Book TTT, page 772.
William Strong's 1786 grant(s) was in the part of Wilkes
County, GA, that subsequently became Elbert County
on 10 DEC 1790, as proved by several deeds recorded
in Elbert County, GA.
Franklin County was formed 23 FEB 1784 from Cherekee
Indian Land Cession. Jackson County was formed
11 FEB 1796 from Franklin County. Clarke County was
formed 5 DEC 1801 from Jackson County. So the 575
acres granted in 1790 was likely in what became later
Clarke County, GA.
The 1800 and 1810 census of Georgia were not preserved.
The best substitute is the Georgia Land Lottery of 1805,
for which registrations were taken in 1804.
Strongs and allied who registered for 1805 land lottery,
by county of residence. In general, one draw was allowed
for a single adult male. Two draws were allowed for a
married male or a widowed male with a minor child.
Clarke County, GA: Draws
William Strong, Sr. 1
William Strong, Esq. [William, II] 2
William Strong, Jr. [William, III] 2
Johnson Strong 2 grant
Sherwood Strong 2
John Strong 1
John Strong, Jr. 2 grant
Robert Strong 1
"Ruthy" Strong 1
Samuel Bridgewater 1
John Moss 2 grant
James Price 2
Oglethorpe County, GA
Charles Strong 2
"Tempy" and "Penny" Strong
[Orphans] 1
William Strong 2 2 grants
Samuel Strong 2
There are some people here who have not been
"introduced" on the STRONG Mail List yet.
William and Frances Strong had daughters
named Elizabeth, Sally, Susannah, and Jane,
as proved by the wills of William Strong and of
Frances Strong in Clarke County, GA.
This "census" identifies S. Bridgewater, who
became the first husband of Jane Strong, as
Samuel Bridgewater. It appears Jane did not
marry him until after the 1805 land lottery.
Jane married, second, in 1815, William M. Stokes,
and she married, third, Rev. Humphrey Posey.
John Moss was probably the husband of
Susannah Strong at the time of this lottery as he
had two draws in the lottery. Susannah was
about age 40 at this time.
James Price was the husband of Elizabeth Strong.
They were obviously married on 15 FEB 1794 in
Buckingham Co., VA, with Johnson Strong as
bondsman.
I belive I checked for Jesse or Joshua Flippen,
both of whom have been cited as the husband of
Sally Strong, but found neither. An Armistead
Flippen was listed in Greene County, GA, in 1805.
It was William Strong, Jr., son of William Strong,
Sr., who was a lawyer and judge in Clarke County,
GA. I thus do not understand why William Strong,
Sr., had only one draw, as he was definitely
married in 1805. Maybe I made an error in
transcribing the Strongs but I have checked at
least twice and have recorded the same notes.
Neither of the John Strongs above could have
been John, son of William Strong, Sr., as
John Strong deserted his wife, Sally, and
departed Georgia for Kentucky and Missouri
before 28 JAN 1804, when Sally filed for
divorce.
More later.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: Strong William [strong@seranis.com.au>
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: What does a Strong look like?
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:32:51 +1100 (EST)
> If you have a physical description of your=20
> Strong ancestors, please share that information=20
> with the Strong Family History Discussion Group.
> I was pleased to discover a description of my
> Great-Grandfather Strong in his Enlistment papers=20
> when he joined the Confederate Army in the
> 1860s. He was described as 6 feet 1 inch tall,
> with black hair, gray eyes, and light complexion.
> His brother, who enlisted the same date, had
> essentially the same description. By vocal
> tradition their father was also tall. =20
This sounds like a very interesting idea. Well
here goes. The information on my G-Grandfather
come from his WW1 Army records:
25 Sep 1880 - Born at Oxford, England.
(50 miles north east of London)
Father : Thomas Strong Mother : Mary Channel
1881 - He is not recorded in the census for Oxfordshire.
18 May 1918 - Enlisted in Australian Imperial Force,=20
at Sydney, for Service Abroad
Trade - Turbine Fitter (at age 38)
Height 6 feet & =BD inch. Weight 194 lb
Brown eyes, Brown hair, Complexion fair
Religion - agnostic
Tattoo on right fore arm of english & american
flags & a girl
Tattoo on left fore arm, of a rose.
I am not aware of the significance of the tattoo
with the American flag. Possibly some connection
that I have yet to determine.=20
From what I can determine, most of us were, and still
are tall.
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From: Strong William [strong@seranis.com.au>
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong's in New Zealand
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:32:53 +1100 (EST)
Hello all in Strong Land.
I have two modemless friends in New Zealand who
have passed me copies of their family trees.
I thought that I should post some details on
some of their early names, in the hope that
someone might discover a connection.
Mrs Lawson of Orewa N.Z. has Strong's from Surry, England.
She is decended from a son of George (b. 1825).
Mrs Parks of Auckland N.Z. is decended from a yonger son
of the same George (b.1825).
(George) Robert Strong (Surry, ENG)
m. Margaret Fisher (b 1792, Armagh IRL)
son: John Strong b. c.1816
d. c.1821
son: Robert Arther Strong b. 02 May 1819 Bermondsey, ENG
d. 29 Oct 1909 Auckland, N.Z.
son: Charles Strong b. c.1821
d. 19 Apr 1885
dau: Rosina Strong b. c.1822
d.
son: George Strong b. 1825 Rotherhithe, Surry,ENG
d. 27 Oct 1896 Auckland, N.Z.
dau: Sara Strong b. c.1830
d.
dau: Susannah Strong b. c.1831
d. c.1849
Does anyone recognise these people ?
regards, Bill.
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From: Russell Laird
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: What Does a Strong Look Like?
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:04:16 -0600
Hello Everyone,
I've enjoyed the Strong descriptions posted to
the list, just as I enjoy immensely and am intrigued by
the information flowing to and fro on this, the best list
I've seen. Thank You to everyone here.
I cannot tell you from first-hand experience what
a Strong looks like. But, I can show you. I scanned a
1941 newspaper mugshot of my great-grandfather William
Melvin "Mack" Strong and placed it on a webpage, along
with the text of the story with which his photo was published.
The URL is:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4944
I'd like to invite everyone interested to have a look and
read the accompanying story. The son of Thomas Van Buren
Strong of Greene Co., TN, "Mack" had a few adventures when
he was young and apparently met some interesting characters
in later years as well.
Regards,
Russell Laird
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: New Subscribers; New E-Mail Address
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 22:34:23 EST
Welcome to two new subscribers:
KARENJSC@aol.com (not introduced yet)
cathyl@TSO.Cin.IX.Net (Catherine H. Lippert)
Robert S. (Bob) Strong has indicated he has
recently acquired an Internet account, and
plans to join our Discussion Group soon.
Bob is an SFAA Historian and was co-author
with Lyle Strong of STRONG FAMILY
HISTORIES, VOLUME 5, (c) 1996, Strong
Family Association of America (SFAA).
Bob will be a most welcome addition to
our discussion. Here is his E-Mail address:
SFAASTRONG@aol.com (Robert S. Strong)
Since we will now have two Bob Strongs, I
have altered my signature line. It is a little
more formal, but should avoid confusion.
Finally, James Robert (Jim) Rolff has a new
E-Mail address. If you have Jim in your address
book, please note the change.
LVZM23A@prodigy.com (James Robert Rolff)
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG/SPRONG: Three Forwarded Messages from ROOTS-L
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 22:34:23 EST
The following messages about Strongs and Sprongs, aka Strongs,
were posted to the Social.Genealogy.Surnames Newsgroup on
InterNet, also known as the Roots Surname List.
Since these individuals are not subscribers to the STRONG
Family Discussion Group, please address a copy of your
reply to the individual who posted the query as well as a
copy to our Discussion Group. Be careful to get the E-Mail
address correct when replying to a quoted message within
a message. Extend an invitation to affiliate with our
Discussion Group if you contact one of these Strong family
researchers.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: rlewis@sirius.com (Robert Lewis)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.surnames
Subject: Re: STRONG; Windsor, CT,USA; 1630-1700
Date: 6 Mar 1997 00:22:05 GMT
Ruth from Upstate New York
wrote:
> Interested in "talking" to anyone researching the John
> STRONG family who were in Windsor, CT by 1661 and
> probably much earlier. His wife is unknown to me, but
> a daughter, Esther or Hester, was born at Windsor 7 Jun 1661
> and died there 4 Mar 1726. She married Thomas BISSELL
> who was born at Windsor 2 Oct 1656. Can anyone help?
> Thanks in advance.
> Ruth Jordan Thoden
> Internet = RuthThoden@Delphi.Com
Ruth I think I might have some papers on Thomas but
I am not sure. I also am a descendant of the Bisel/Bissel
family line.
Good luck !!!
Robert Lewis
rlewis@sirius.com
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From: poose@aol.com (Poose)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.surnames
Subject: Re: STRONG; Windsor, CT, USA; 1630-1700
Date: 8 Mar 1997 23:40:02 GMT
I have a Deliverance Grant who married Dr. Samuel Cary
in Windam, CT. [They] removed to Salem, NH, had 10 children.
[Dr. Samuel] Cary d. 1784. Widow married Capt John Strong,
b. unk [date], Thetford, VT. [With John Strong, Deliverance
had 2 children, John [Strong, Jr.] & Zebulon [Strong]. [John
Strong] d. 1800 in Salem, NH. Widow and Children moved
to Cincinnati, Ohio, 1802. John [Strong, Jr.] & Zebulon [Strong]
lived at least to 1910 in Cincy.
poose@aol.com (Poose)
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From: Joseph A Arlt
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.surnames
Subject: SPRONG; New Amsterdam, NY,USA; 1630-1700
Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:56:55 GMT
Since Windsor is West of the Conn. River (I think), It
could have been part of New Netherlands at this time.
I have a Barbara SPRONG who also spelled her name
on documents as Barbara STRONG, bn 1661, and baptised
at DRC on 27 Jul 1661 in New Amsterdam. Her father
was Johannes SPRONCK (which in English could be
written John STRONG in later documents). Her
mother was Annetie SEDLAERS (or Ann SONELAERS
of sometimes spelled SYLERS). They were married
23 Oct 1660 at DRC. Just some possibilities to consider
with these older lines in the New World.
>From Joe Arlt < joearlt@juno.com >
Compulsive Genealogy Searcher........
Researching German, Irish, Italian from New York:
The Boroughs, Ulster, Sullivan & Dutchess Counties.
Especially looking for ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO,
FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI,
WAGNER
Yesterday and Today are Tomorrow's history
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Cherekee Applications of 1906: Mrs. Mourning Strong
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:27:26 EST
Thanks, David, for the informaton you provided about
the Cherokee Applications of 1906.
Here is the complete bibliographical citation I found
at the local library today.
Jerry Wight Jordan, compiler. CHEREKEE BY BLOOD:
RECORDS OF EASTERN CHEREKEE ANCESTRY IN THE
U. S. COURT OF CLAIMS, 1906-1910, seven volumes,
Volume VII, Applications 16746 to 20100, (c) 1991.
Bowie, MD 20716: Heritage Books, Inc.
Mrs. Mourning Strong of Tennesse did apply but her
claim was not approved. She applied on behalf of
herself and her children. The number of children
was stated but their names were not reported in the
abstract. Her rejection was cross-referenced to a
previously rejected claim. [I did not take notes on
this.]
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: Thomas Mathews
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: It arrived.
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:26:50 +0000
Jim,
Thank you for sending the information on the Henry Harrison Strong
family. This was a great thrill for my mother-in-law who knew very
little of her parents and their families. It has been slow going working
my way backwards through several generations of vital records. I can
correct two items on page 21 of this record, which I will send back to
you before the week is out.
On page 21, I believe the correct name of Wesley B. to be John Wesley
Strong. It is so recorded on the birth certificate of his son, Prentice.
I doubt the reference to his second wife as his "first" wife Cora
Strong's death certificate list her as a widow and she died March 8,
1986, several years after John Wesley.
Also, his parents are, according to their marriage certificate, Daniel
W. Strong and Mollie M. Eaves, daughter of Robert B. Eaves, who may be
related to the Crockets of Tennessee (speculation at this point). I
believe Daniel's middle name is Webster as Theresa came up with a
headstone in Ozark County of a Daniel Webster Strong, born in 1901,
possibly a son.
Thanks again for the assistance. As I fit the pieces of the later
generations together I will forward them to you to add to it.
Thanks again,
Tom
P.S. What do you know about "Captain Bill" Strong and the Breathitt
County Feuds?
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From: jrolff@juno.com (James R Rolff)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Hi
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:52:33 EST
Hello Bob and everybody else;
This is Jim Rolff, with my third address in 4 days. I feel like
a nomad. I'm trying to find something I like better than AOL, and this
Juno is very nice. Bob, you asked about a lady who wrote to me in 1986,
who said she was a cousin of Michael Strong of Indianapolis, and was a
probable descendant of David Strong of Giles Co., Tenn. She is: June
Greenwell, 2204 Dogwood Circle, Mount Dora, Fl. 32757. I found the first
letter she wrote to me, and she did say that she was a cousin of Michael,
but nothing in this letter about David. This was probably in a later
letter that I didn't find. I accidently came across another 1986 letter
from Owen Fry, PO Box 266, Frederick, Ok. 73542, in which he mentions a
NOAH STRONG who married Mary Dodd in Davidson Co., Tenn. Didn't somebody
mention a Noah Strong the other day? Hello, Russell Laird! I'm glad to
hear from you, because your Thomas Van Buren Strong was my wife's great
great uncle. Does anybody know if the records of the Moccasin Creek
Baptist Church, Scott County, Virginia, are still in existance?
JRolff@Juno.com
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From: Carl Cason
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Cherekee Applications of
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:47:45 -0500
In reply to Robert T. Strong:
Concerning the Cherokee application for Mourning E. STRONG. I have a
copy of application #14163 for Mourning Elisabeth Strong (Smith) of
Moss [Clay Co.] Tenn, wife of J. C. SMITH. She states her father was
Sam Strong and mother Margarett RICH Strong, both born "about 1835".
She lists her brothers and sisters as (all Strongs): Sy, Polly, Cam,
Jinnie A., Bart, Halix(?), and Frank(?). She says her grandparents
were John RICH and PEAK on one side, and "unknown" on the other.
(John Rich and Jane PEAK are my 3rd-great grandparents).
She later made an application for her Minor Children: Martin Smith
b.1887, Sherman 1889, Allen 1891, Turner 1893, Ozy 1895, Lucy 1898,
and Okley 1900. (I believe she married in 1880, so she probably had
additional children who were no longer minors at the time of the
application.)
She, as did many other RICH descendants, claimed Polly Hooker Rich as
their Indian ancestor. They apparently could not prove that Polly was a
Cherokee, however, because all of their claims were denied. Polly is
believed to be the wife of William Rich, the father of Jesse Rich, and
probably of John Rich, also.
Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington
email: ccason@compuserve.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: How to Obtain Cherokee Applications
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 04:52:54 EST
>From the header on Carl Cason's message, I was
not able to tell whether copies were sent to the
Strong Mail List, so I am forwarding a copy to
the Strong Mail List as well as a copy to the Stanley
Mail List.
Bob T. Strong
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From: Carl Cason
To: BlindCopyReceiver:;
Subject: Cherokee Applications
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:47:34 -0500
Message-ID: <199703131610_MC2-1288-41CA@compuserve.com>
>Could you explain for my benefit, and the
>benefit of anyone else on the STRONG List
>who might be interested, the procedure for
>requesting a copy of one of the applications
>from a purported Cherekee descendant?
The only way I have done it is through an LDS Family
History Center, which of course anyone can use. I just
recently moved to Seattle, where there is a National
Archives branch.
There is an index of the applications, by name and
application number, on reel one of the National Archives
film #M1104, which is LDS film #0378594. Once you have
the application number, look at the Family History Library
Catalogue (FHLC) on CD or microfiche under subject U. S.
Cherokees and find a cross reference between application
number and LDS film number and order that film number.
Of course I am sure you can also order the application
directly from the National Archives, especially after you
know the appl number, but I do not know that procedure.
I do know that some of the branch National Archives,
including the one here in Seattle, have the complete M1104,
which is MANY rolls.
Hopefully this will be helpful, Bob.
Carl Cason, Bothell, Washington
email: ccason@compuserve.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: SUBSCRIBERS to STRONG Mail List, 14 MAR 97
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:16:32 EST
>From the keyboard of Bob Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way
Madison, AL 35758-7113
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
*********************************************************************
ROBERT'S RAMBLINGS
There still seems to be some confusion about how
to take you name off the STRONG Mail List. The
procedure is the same as for SUBscribing, except you
use the command UNSUBscribe, instead. Address your
message to the MAISER Listserver address and beginning
on the first line, enter these commands:
UNSUB STRONG
REVIEW STRONG
EXIT
The List Server should remove you from the list, then send
you a current subscriber list, on which your E-mail address
should not appear. If your address is still there, wait a day
and ask for another review. If your address is still there,
notify me and I will use a different command to REMOVE you
from the List.
If you are changing from one InterNet Service Provider to
another, send the order to UNSUB from the ISP you are
canceling, prior to canceling. Then, from your new ISP,
submit an order to SUB again.
==========
If you know a Strong, etc., researcher who is not
already subscribed, please send then an invitation to
join us, to learn about our families, and to share
information about their families.
You are invited to resubmit any queries or lineages that
have not been posted in the past month. Just please
begin the Subject Line of these messages with "Re-Post:"
In your Subject Line include, if possible, Who, Where,
and When.
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DATES SINCE 8 DEC 96 WHEN THERE WAS NO PUBLIC MAIL
ON THE STRONG MAIL LIST. Do NOT request archived
mail for these dates.
25 and 27 DEC 96
7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 31 JAN 97.
1-25 FEB 97 (Not archived. Request via message to me.)
27 FEB 97
13 MAR 97
The syntax for obtaining archived messages for the STRONG
List from the MAISER List Server address is:
send YY-MM-DD.std
EXAMPLE:
send 97-01-30.std
exit
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CURRENT SUBSCRIBER LIST
Members of STRONG Mail List as of FRIDAY, 14 MAR 97
Current number of subscribers: 49
Welcome to New Subscribers This Week: 4
KARENJSC@aol.com (Not introduced as yet)
cathyl@TSO.Cin.IX.Net (Catherine H. Lippert)
SFAAStrong@aol.com (Robert S. Strong, SFAA Assoc. Historian)
RuthThoden@AOL.com (Ruth Thoden)
We look forward to our new subscribers introducing
themselves and their Strong, Strang, Strange,
Straughan, etc., family connections in the near future.
Please tell us Who, Where, and When about your
connections and you are also urged to post a descendancy
chart. Please also identify yourselves, if you have not
already done so, so that I can add a name to your E-Mail
address.
E-Mail Address Changes This Week (New Addresses):
RuthThoden@AOL.com (Ruth Thoden)
jrolff@juno.com (James R. "Jim" Rolff)
Change of U. S. Mail Address (pending);
This note was received from Theresa Lang on 10 MAR:
"My husband started a new position with a company
(WaferTech) in Vancouver, WA, on Mar 4. We listed
our house on the same day and it was sold by Friday!
Incredible! Dick is in Taiwan this week on business.
When he returns next weekend, we'll pack-up the
family and all drive to Vancouver. Have to find
a rental for us to move into before the new people
move into this house on April 18."
Congratulations to Theresa on the unbelievably fast
real estate sale and best wishes for finding a new home
across the Columbia River from Portland, Oregon, very
quickly.
Theresa's E-Mail address will remain the same, she stated.
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Please report any corrections or additions to the Subscriber
List below to the List Manager. A migration route will be
added to your name and/or E-Mail address if you provide
that information.
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
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Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England]
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Other Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Gerry Strong)
Strongs of Scotland and Ireland and South Carolina
Charles Strong, b. Scotland, d. 1783 Ireland
Letitia Strong (b. 1766, Ireland-d. 1837, SC)
m. 1778 James STRONG, Jr. (b.1749, IRE -d.1829, SC)
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
Christopher Strong, b. 1760 IRE; d. 1850, Dickson Co., TN
lbetts@cphl.mindspring.com (Lowry Betts)
mcculler@mindspring.com (Jim McCuller)
Strongs of Ireland and South Carolina
James Strong, Sr. b.1709 Ireland; d, 1779 Chester Co., SC
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
mgray@jax-inter.net (Marge Gray)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Descendants of Return Strong (son of John) and Sarah Warham
Sarah Strong m. 1696 (Capt.) John Higley in Windsor, CT
WHigleyjr@aol.com (Wayne Higley, Jr.)
Descendant of Hester Strong, daughter of John Strong
RuthThoden@AOL.com (Ruth Thoden)
Possible descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
JBleaux@aol.com (Joe Ticknor Breeze)
[Tabitha Strong of Salisbury, Litchfield Co., CT
m. 1772 John Ticknor (or Tickner)]
dparker@ma.ultranet.com ( Dick Parker)
[George Strong of Marblehead, MA]
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
ATHACKNEY@aol.com (Allan T. Hackney)
[Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey]
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
[James STRONG b. 1727; d. 1804, York Co., PA:
Great Britain ? > PA > OH ]
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
[Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH]
Strongs of Central U.S.
edwart@sdcpos3c.daytonoh.ncr.com [Teresa L. Edwards]
Nancy Jane Strong Fleetwood, d. 1898, Douglas Co., MO
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
Descendants of Martin Strong, 1st
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Jr.
moss44@seark.net (R W MOSS)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
Jimmmmie@aol.com (James R. Rolff m. Sandra Strong)
unkletom@cctrap.com (Thomas Mathews)
James Strong, b. KY, about 1844
Daniel W. Strong of Gainesville, Ozark Co., MO
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John, Sr.
Descendants of Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
ccason@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
DStrong155@aol.com (Dave Strong)
Descendants of Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC
and Lawrence Co., MS
ldooley@dexter.net (Leanne Dooley)
Descendants of unidentified Strongs of Rockingham Co., NC
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
Probable descendant of John Strong, Jr., Hanover Co., VA
Probable descendant of David Strong of Giles Co., TN
Susan Strong Haden %
Merlinesk@aol.com (Wade R. Watts)
STRAUGHAN Family researchers:
russie@bellsouth.net (Norma Straughan Russie)
John Wm. STRAUGHAN, b. 20 DEC 1842, ENG > VA
JJStrawn@msn.com (Jim Straughan)
Straughan/Straughn: VA > KY, ca. 1760s.
STRANG Family researchers:
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W. Bratt)
[STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's]
STRANGE Family researchers:
Helen@strange1.demon.co.uk
[James Strange of London, ENG, abt 1780 & descendants.]
Lineage unidentified or unknown or not clear.
Some subscribers have not posted their lineage--
or perhaps I have overlooked it.
hereford@cdc.net
KELASN@aol.com (Kelly __?__)
JSGR@aol.com
joerob@beaches.net
deborah@oz.sunflower.org
KARENJSC@aol.com
cathyl@TSO.Cin.IX.Net (Catherine H. Lippert)
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From: KARENJSC@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Nathan Strong
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:01:12 -0500 (EST)
Hello,
This is my first time to post to the list. My husband is a Strong
descendant of the John Strong (1667-1703) mentioned in James Rolff's book,
as follows: John1, John2, John3, Robert, Nathan, Nathan D., and Elizabeth
Strong who married Chester Cherry, Wilbur Cherry, then my husband Richard
Cherry.
I need help in identifying the additional children of Nathan
Strong/Caroline Norton not listed in James Rolff's book. Namely: Nathan D. (I
have his info.), Tom Strong, Neil Strong, Frank Strong, Rufus Strong, Charlie
Strong, and Cole Strong. According to my husband's family these are children
of Nathan and Caroline but I haven't been able to find any records on them
whatsoever. Does anyone have any additional information on this family that
could help shed some light on these children?
Note: Nathan Day Strong is not mentioned in James Rolff's book (see pg
334).
Any help will certainly be appreciated.
Sincerely, Karen Cherry
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From: DStrong155@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Fwd: Samuel Strong, Joseph Strong and Elizabeth Strong (Martin)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:50:12 -0500 (EST)
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Subj: Samuel Strong, Joseph Strong and Elizabeth Strong (Martin)
Date: 97-03-15 14:10:32 EST
From: DStrong155
To: rbtstrongjr@juno.com
CC: jrolff@juno.com,idooley@dexter.net
Dear Bob,
I wanted to e-mail this to you to see if it could be included for
discussion among the other Strong's on the mailing list. Due ti it's length I
wan not sure if it was appropriate.
I have several questions that I thought might be good topics for deabate
or research interest. First. Is SAMUEL STRONG of Monroe County, KY the son of
THOMAS STRONG and ELIZABETH STRONG (MARTIN) ? Second, What happened to
ELIZABETH STRONG-MARTIN? Third, Is SAMUEL STRONG the son of JOSEPH "JOSIAH"
STRONG ?
As you know Joseph "Josiah" Strong is my ggg grandfather who know I can
claim with 100 percent certainty. Luckily for me Joseph left a lot of records
for researchers and he and his desc. have/had lived in the same area for over
150 plus years. So this made my task easy to trace almost all of his desc.
Howerver the task of tracing Joseph's father was not as easy. Except for
family stories stating that the father of Joseph was a SAMUEL STRONG from
Virginia I had nor could find any proof or evidence to this fact. However in
1995 I was given the name of James Rolff. In the last few years James Ralff
has been such a wealth of knowledge and help. It was Jim who first pointed me
to look at a Samuel Strong that lived in Monroe County, Kentucky in
1820-1844.
I had known for years that my Strong family (Joseph Strong) had/has lived
on the Monroe County, KY and Jackson County (now that part of Clay County),
Tennessee
since they moved to the Tennessee area. Most of their land in Tennessee came
from deeds filed in Tompkinsville, Monroe County, Kentucky. And these deac.
still live on these lands on both sides of the county/state lines.
So for the last couple of years Jim and I have researched Samuel Strong
in Monroe County, KY. And thses are the records that have been found.
SAMUEL STRONG(157) b. bef. 1776 pos. son of THOMAS STRONG (9) and ELIZABETH
______________. Lived Copper Creek in Russell County, VA. Note: that Copper
Creek in near Moccassin Creek Ridge and where the Moccassin Creek Church is
believed to be. You will later see Samuel Strong was a memeber of this church
according to the Mill Creek Baptist Church Records.
Russell County VA. Tax Records
1795 William Strong
1795 William Strong and Samuel Strong
1797 No Listing
1798 Samuel Strong
1799 Samuel Strong
1800 Samuel Strong
1801 Samuel Strong
1810 Samuel Strong, 1 tithable and 4 horses
Russel County Records
1808 Russell County, VA: Samuel Strong was a witness to deed from John
McClellan to Thomas and Ann Strong.
Samuel is also listed on records in Russell County, VA (pg. 122 on James
Rolff's Book) with Thomas Strong (158), SAMUEL CASTEEL and JOHN CASTEEL. JOHN
and JOSEPH CASTEEL also appear on the 1820 Census of Monroe County, Kentucky
at the same time a SAMUEL STRONG appears in the 1820 Census of Monroe County,
KY.
On 7-28-1812 SAMUEL STRONG married JENNY CASTEEL in Barren County, KY by John
Mulkey. The marriage also lists that JOHN CASTEEL made the bond for the
marriage.
Note: John Mulkey was an baptist minister that formed the Mill Creek Baptist
Church near present day Tompkinsville, Monroe County, KY. As I stated earlier
Samuel Strong will be listed as seeking membership to this church in 1830.
1812 Barren County, KY Tax List.
1811 No. Strong's
1812 Samuel Strong, 1 over 21, 2 horses
1813 Samuel Strong, 80 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21, 2 horse, Means Co.
1814 " " " " "
" " ".
1815 " " 100 acres, 10 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21, 1
horse
1816 " " 110 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21, 3 horses, Means
Comp.
1817 " " 100 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21, Means Comp.
1818
1819 Samuel Strong, 100 acres Line Creek, Jackson Co.
Note: The area where Samuel Strong is living on line creek is now in Monroe
County, KY. Monroe County was form from part of Barren County and Cumberland
County in 1820. Line Creek where Samuel is living also runs into Jackson
County (Clay County), Tennessee near wher my Joseph Strong owned land.
References:
Book: " Strong Family of Virginia and other Southern States" by Jmaes Rolff.
Census Records: Monroe County, KY 1820, 1830, 1840
Jackson County, TN 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860
Camden County, MO 1850
Church Records: Mill Creek Baptist Church 1808-1873, Southern Baptist
Historcial
Commission, Nashville, TN.
Land Deeds: Russell County, VA 1814
South of the Walker Line Joseph Strong
Tax Records: Barren County, KY 1812, 1813, 1814, 1815, 1816, 1817, 1818, 1819
Russell County, VA 1796, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1802, 1810
1830 Census Records page 391
Tompkinsville Census taken Oct. 23, 1830
SAMUEL STRONG 13100001-10210100001
1830 Census page 380
THOMAS H. STRONG 00001-00001
Note: That in SAMUEL STRONG's census it lists a woman that is 80-90 years of
age. Could this be ELIZABETH STRONG-MARTIN. The reasoning behind this
question is due to the fact that an ELIZABETH MARTIN is listed as a member of
the Mill Creek Baptist Church in 1830-1840.
MONROE COUNTY, KY TAX LIST
1820 SAMUEL STRONG 100 acres Line Creek, 10 acres Line Creek
1821 SAME
1822 SAME
1823 JOSEPH STRONG
SAMUEL STRONG 100 Acres Line Creek
10 Acres Line Creek
1824 SAME
1825 SAME
1826 SAME
1827 **** JOSEPH STRONG****** is missing from now on in Monroe County, KY
however I have records showing that my JOSEPH STRONG bought land in Jackson
County (now Clay County), TN about the time of the Joseph Strong disapperaing
in Monroe County.
1827 THOMAS STRONG
SAMUEL STRONG 110 acres Line Creek
10 acres Line Creek
1828 SAME
1829 SAME
1830 SAME
1831 SAME
1832 MISSING
1833 thru 1841 SAMUEL STRONG 100 Acres Line Creek
10 Acres Line Creel
1841 SAMUEL STRONG 110 acres Line Creek
WILLIAM STRONG
1842 SAME
1843 SAMUEL STRONG 110 Acres Line Creek
SCOTT STRONG
1844 No Strongs are Listed afterwards.
1830 census Jackson County, TN
JOHN STRONG males 1 30/40 yrs.
females 2 0/5, 1 5/10, 1 20/30
Note: a John Strong bought 100 acres on Line Creek in Jackson County ( it is
on the present day border of Monroe CO. KY and Clay CO. TN) on 3-9-1826
RECORDS of the MILL CREEK BAPTIST CHURCH
_________, 1829 Church Meeting:
Where as Samuel Strong presented himself before us at our July meeting and
let us know that he was once a member of Mockinson Creek Church and was
justly excluded and thsi church agrees to take up the case in his behalf
..............
Feb, 3rd Sat, 1830, First Church Meeeting....
The preference relating to the case of Samuel Strong called for and
attended to and as we have received no intellegence from the Church at
Mockinson Creek the said Strong requested the church not to come to a
decision of the matter, being there are some minds laboring under some
considerable embarrassments relative to some unfavorable reports that is in
circulation against him. The church agrees to refer it to their April
meeting for the purpose of giving them an opportunity to remove the
difficulty if possible. But if they neglect or refuse to embrace the
opportunity, they must conform to the decision of the Church. But if they
shall embrace the opportunity and fail to gain satisfaction they shall have
the opportuntiy of laying their grievance before the church, at the meeting
above named."
"May 3rd 1830, Friday before the Saturday Church Meeting.,
The reference relating to the case of Samuel Strong called for and attended
to now having received a letter from the Mockinson Creek Church. Stating the
crimes for which he was excluded from among them also invested the church
with full power to act according to the freedom of her own will, to gather
with the nature of his recantation, the church recieved him an invited him
to a seat among them...."
"November 3, 1840, Saturday., Church Meeting.,
Brother Sam Strong asked the church whether she was or was not dissatisfied
with the conduct of the association for ________comes from ____ with all
other associations and the question being taken the church unanimously ___
act of the association on account of which Sml Strong absented himself from
this church declaring that he would not be governed by the church for which
conduct the church excluded him from the church and no one accountable for
his conduct."
Samule Strong was excluded from the church along with Isacc Denton. Isaac
Denton was the father of Morning Denton, who married Joseph "Josiah"Strong.
After 1844 no other Sml Strong is found in Monroe County, KY or even Jackson
County, TN. Could Samule have moved to Missouri?
In 1850 Camden Co a Jennie Strong is listed. Could this be Jane Casteel
Strong who moved to Camden Co, with William Strong and Scott Strong?
Jennie Strong 65 VA
Mary 30 VA
Julia 28 VA
Anderson 23 KY
Daniel 17 KY
William Strong 30 farmer KY
Delia 24 TN
Melissa 6/12 MO
Scott Strong 27 farmer KY
Catherine IL
1840 Census Lincoln Co, TN. Pg. 32
John Strong farmer VA
Sarah TN
Polly TN
Elizabeth TN
Darthula TN
Samuel Clinton TN
Paralee Jane TN
Matilda TN
Catherine TN
Could this John Strong be the son of Samuel Strong that lived in Jackson Co,
TN in 1830 on Line Creek near Joseph Strong ?
1850 Census Barry Co, MO
Thomas Strong 40 farmer VA
Mary 38 KY
Samuel 17 TN
Sarah 15 TN
Jessie 12 TN
Mary 5 MO
Not Named 3 MO
Culd this be the Thomas Strong listed with Samuel Strong the Monroe County
Tax list and Census of Monroe County, KY ?
Why do I think Samuel Strong is the Father of Joseph Josiah Stronh ?
1. Family history states tat he was.
2. The monroe County, Tax list showing a Saml and Joseph together
3. My Joseph Strong had adaughter born in 1824/1826 named Pheraby Strong.
Her death certificate states that her mother and father was Joseph Strong and
Morning Denton and that she was born in Monroe County, KY. This is the same
time and place wher the above stated Sml and Joesph Strong was and no other
Sml or Joseph Strong exists in Monroe County or surronding areas.
4. Sml Strong was found in the Mill Creek Baptist Church, where Morning
Denton is a memeber. She married Joseph Strong. The founder of the Church
married Samuel Strong and Jennie Casteel. The Casteel Familes live in present
day Clay County and married several children and desc. of Joseph Strong.
What do you think ?
Dave
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Nathan Strong of GA and LA, and descendants
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:24:58 EST
Greetings, Karen Cherry!!
How nice to get acquainited after so long!
Your Strongs were "neighbors" of some of my
Moore and Powell and Carter and Doyle ancestors
and relatives who resided in the eastern part of
Bossier Parish, LA, which became Webster Parish,
Louisiana. I don't think I ever submitted that data
to Jim Rolff's newslerrer, so it was not included in
his book. Possibly I did not find the records until
after his book was published.
I am trying to sort out a half-dozen Strong branches
who migrated to Shreveport, LA, in Caddo Parish,
about 50 or 60 miles from where your Strongs
were residing in Webster Parish, LA, a generations
or two earlier. Based on further research by you, m
aybe you will be able to tell me whether any of the
direct male descendants of Nathan Strong, who carried
the surname Strong, moved to Shreveport.
To elucidate your family for other subscribers
to the STRONG Family History Discussion Group:
Robert Strong was a son of John Strong, III, the
French and Indian War veteran from Hanover
County, VA. John resided in Hanover, Goochland,
and Campbell Counties, VA, and in Oglethorpe
and Clarke Counties, GA. Robert Strong relocated
to Heard County, GA. His son, Nathan Strong,
after residing in Heard County, GA, then migrated
to the part of Bossier Parish, LA, that later became
Webster Parish. The Heard County, GA, 1850 census
records of this family are included in Jim Rolff's book.
It will take me some searching in my Powell and
Moore files to find these census records.....
Well, that didn't take long to find.
All occupations/trades are Farmers unless otherwise
stated.
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1880 census, Webster Parish, LA, SD 2, ED 49, Ward 1,
Page 12, [Microfilm Page 208B) Dwelling 106:
Nathan Strong 68 WM GA VA VA
Mary C. Strong 58 WF GA SC NC
Sarah E. Strong 30 WF GA GA GA
Rufus Strong 21 WM LA GA GA
Charles W. Strong 19 WM LA GA GA
Coly M. Strong 15 WM LA GA GA
Ward 1, Dwelling 105
William Strong 25 WM GA GA GA
Ward 2, Dwelling 145
R. Strong 30 WM GA GA GA
[with wife and one daughter]
So this family had been in Louisiana for 21 years
in 1880 and thus should be on the 1860 and 1870
census in Bossier Parish, LA, as Webster Parish
had not yet been formed in 1870.
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Nathan Strong deceased before the 1900 census
of Webster Parish, LA.
1900 census, Webster Parish, Ward 1, 4-104-5, P. 5B
[Microfilm Page 59?], Dwelling 79, Family 83:
Strong, Mary C. APR 1822 Wid 12/10 GA SC NC
Lee, Henry D. GS APR 1884 Not recorded
Lee Annie GD APR 1884 Not recorded
Annie Lee was listed as a "Servant".
So Nathan and Mary Caroline Strong had 12 children, two
of whom had deceased before 1 JUN 1900. 10 children
are identified in the 1850 census of Heard Co., GA, and in
the 1880 census of Webster Parish, LA: Elizabeth, Emiline,
Frances, William, Robert, Cornelia, Sarah, Rufus, Charles,
and Coley. Who were the two that died before 1900?
One was apparently a daughter who married a Mr. Lee.
[Micriofilm Page 53?], Dwelling 124, Family 128,
Ward 1, SD 4 - ED 104 - P. 8B:
Charley W. Strong NOV 1861 M2 3/3 LA GA GA
Gene (?) Strong W FEB 1872 LA GA GA
Mary C. Strong D JUL 1892 LA LA LA
Unnis C. Strong D JUN 1995 LA LA LA
Frank M. Strong S AUG 1997 LA LA LA
The wife's name was likely "Jean" rather than "Gene."
"Unnis" was probably "Eunice".
[Microfilm Page 67?], Dwelling 212, Family 147,
Ward 1, SD 4 - ED 104 - Page 13B:
Coley M. Strong APR 1865 M11 5/4 LA GA GA
Lula Strong W 1872 LA ??
??
Lou E. Strong D NOV 1891 LA LA LA
Rufus Strong S JUL 1895 LA LA LA
Maggie Strong D MAR 1894 LA LA LA
William C. Strong S MAY 1892 LA LA LA
Coley Strong's occupation was listed as "Salesman"
Ward 2, SD 4, ED 106, Page 37B [Microfilm Page ??]
Dwelling 147, Family 147:
Robert Strong 52 FEB 1848 M22 3/3 GA GA GA
Josephine A. Strong 43 SEP 1856 LA TN MS
Robert Lee Strong 9 FEB 1891 LA GA LA
Ethel Strong 6 JAN 1884 LA GA LA
(I neglected to record the family relationships. You need to
check the 1880 census for the eldest child, a daughter.)
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Most records of Bossier and Webster Parish have been
preserved. You should be able to find considerable
information about these Strongs from Wills, estate
divisions, grants and deeds, and marriage records.
Since the family arrived in LA before the War Between
the States, also check for Confederate Army records
for Nathan Strong in LA. [My ancestor, Isham Strong,
served in Texas, although he was past 60.]
My Moore and Powell ancestors and relatives resided
at Sarepta, which was at first in the Cotton Valley Post
Office region. Your Strongs were in the same communities.
You'll find many marriage records of Webster Parish, LA,
were published in the 1970s in the genealogical periodical,
THE GENIE. I see there, for example, the marriage of
Robert Strong to J. A, Moore on 23 DEC 1877. I have not
made an intensive search. The published records are not
alphabetized and I do not have an index. I do not immediately
recognize Miss Josephine A. Moore, but she is likely a distant
relative of mine.
You might consider checking the census records of Texas
for any missing members of this Strong family, particulary
checking in Rusk and Upshur Counties, Texas. A large
contingent of Strongs from Clarke Co., GA, settled in
Rusk County, some residing just over the county line
from my Strongs in Garrison, Nacogdoches County, TX.
Please share more details about the members of this
family who remained in Georgia or Alabama. A more
detailed descendancy chart would be greatly appreciated.
You seemed to indicate that it was your husband who
is the Strong descendant?
Please keep me and the Strong List informed of your
progress in researching these Strongs.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: KARENJSC@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Nathan Strong
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:01:12 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <7CC2DE404F@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
Hello,
This is my first time to post to the list. My husband is a
Strong descendant of the John Strong (1667-1703) mentioned
in James Rolff's book, as follows: John1, John2, John3, Robert,
Nathan, Nathan D., and Elizabeth Strong who married Chester
Cherry, Wilbur Cherry, then my husband Richard Cherry.
I need help in identifying the additional children of
Nathan Strong/Caroline Norton not listed in James Rolff's book.
Namely: Nathan D. (I have his info.), Tom Strong, Neil Strong,
Frank Strong, Rufus Strong, Charlie Strong, and Cole Strong.
According to my husband's family these are children of Nathan
and Caroline but I haven't been able to find any records on
them whatsoever. Does anyone have any additional information
on this family that could help shed some light on these children?
Note: Nathan Day Strong is not mentioned in James Rolff's
book (see pg 334).
Any help will certainly be appreciated.
Sincerely, Karen Cherry
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Ruth Strong m. Thomas Cushman, b. 1670
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:01:11 EST
Please address your reply to
deborah@oz.sunflower.org
with a carbon copy to the Strong Mail List,
or vice versa.
ATTENTION: Deb < deborah@oz.sunflower.org >
I do not personally have any information on Ruth
Strong Cushman but am forwarding your message
to the STRONG Family History Discussion Group.
Perhaps someone on the List can assist you.
Although you are no longer a subscriber, you may post
queries about your Strong connection to our Discussion
Group. Be sure to ask that replies be sent to your E-Mail
address as well as to the Mail List.
Some additional details about Ruth Strong Cushman would
be very helpful; for example, WHERE did this couple marry
and/or where did they reside?
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: deborah crain
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:18:11 -0800
Hi
Do you have anything on these people:
Thomas Cushman born 1670 md Sarah Strong.
Thomas Cushman born 1637 md Ruth Howland.
Was Thomas ,b 1670,son of Thomas ,b 1637,and Ruth Howland?
Thanks
Deb
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Samuel Strong, Joseph Strong and Elizabeth Strong (Martin)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:01:11 EST
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From: DStrong155@aol.com (Dave Strong)
Subj: Samuel Strong, Joseph Strong and Elizabeth Strong (Martin)
Date: 97-03-15 14:10:32 EST
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
CC: jrolff@juno.com,
idooley@dexter.net
Dear Bob,
I wanted to E-mail this to you to see if it could be included for
discussion among the other Strong's on the Mailing List. Due to
it's length I was not sure if it was appropriate.
I have several questions that I thought might be good topics for
debate or research interest.
First, Is SAMUEL STRONG of Monroe County, KY, the son of
THOMAS STRONG and ELIZABETH STRONG (MARTIN)?
Second, What happened to ELIZABETH STRONG-MARTIN?
Third, Is SAMUEL STRONG the son of JOSEPH "JOSIAH" STRONG ?
As you know Joseph "Josiah" Strong is my ggg grandfather
whom I now can claim with 100 percent certainty. Luckily for
me Joseph left a lot of records for researchers and he and his
descendants have/had lived in the same area for over 150 plus
years. So this made my task easy to trace almost all of his desc.
Howerver the task of tracing Joseph's father was not as easy.
Except for family stories stating that the father of Joseph was
a SAMUEL STRONG from Virginia I had, nor could find any, proof
or evidence to this fact. However in 1995 I was given the name
of James Rolff. In the last few years James Ralff has been such
a wealth of knowledge and help. It was Jim who first pointed me
to look at a Samuel Strong that lived in Monroe County, Kentucky
in 1820-1844.
I had known for years that my Strong family (Joseph Strong)
had/has lived on the Monroe County, KY, and Jackson County
(now that part of Clay County), Tennessee, since they moved to
the Tennessee area. Most of their land in Tennessee came
from deeds filed in Tompkinsville, Monroe County, Kentucky.
And these descendants still live on these lands on both sides
of the county/state lines. So for the last couple of years Jim
and I have researched Samuel Strong in Monroe County, KY.
And these are the records that have been found.
SAMUEL STRONG(Rolff's #157) b. bef. 1776 possible son of
THOMAS STRONG (Rolff's #9) and ELIZABETH __?__. Lived
Copper Creek in Russell County, VA. Note: that Copper Creek
is near Moccassin Creek Ridge and where the Moccassin Creek
Church is believed to be. You will later see Samuel Strong was
a memeber of this church according to the Mill Creek Baptist
Church Records.
Russell County VA. Tax Records
1795 William Strong
1795 William Strong and Samuel Strong
1797 No Listing
1798 Samuel Strong
1799 Samuel Strong
1800 Samuel Strong
1801 Samuel Strong
1810 Samuel Strong, 1 tithable and 4 horses
Russell County Records:
1808 Russell County, VA: Samuel Strong was a witness to deed
from John McClellan to Thomas and Ann Strong.
Samuel is also listed on records in Russell County, VA (pg. 122 in
James Rolff's Book) with Thomas Strong (#158), SAMUEL CASTEEL
and JOHN CASTEEL. JOHN and JOSEPH CASTEEL also appear
on the 1820 Census of Monroe County, Kentucky, at the same time
a SAMUEL STRONG appears in the 1820 Census of Monroe County,
KY.
On 7-28-1812 SAMUEL STRONG married JENNY CASTEEL in Barren
County, KY, by John Mulkey. The marriage also lists that JOHN
CASTEEL made the bond for the marriage.
Note: John Mulkey was a Baptist minister that formed the Mill
Creek Baptist Church near present day Tompkinsville, Monroe County,
KY. As I stated earlier, Samuel Strong will be listed as seeking
membership to this church in 1830.
1812 Barren County, KY, Tax List:
1811 No. Strong's
1812 Samuel Strong, 1 over 21, 2 horses
1813 Samuel Strong, 80 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21,
2 horse, Means Comp.
1814 Samuel Strong, ditto
1815 Samuel Strong, 100 acres, 10 acres Line Creek,
1 over 21, 1 horse
1816 Samuel Strong, 110 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21,
3 horses, Means Comp.
1817 Samuel Strong, 100 acres Line Creek, 1 over 21,
Means Comp.
1818
1819 Samuel Strong, 100 acres Line Creek, Jackson Co.
Note: The area where Samuel Strong is living on Line Creek
is now in Monroe County, KY. Monroe County was formed from
part of Barren County and Cumberland County in 1820. Line
Creek where Samuel is living also runs into Jackson County
(Clay County), Tennessee, near wher my Joseph Strong owned
land.
References:
Book: " Strong Family of Virginia and other Southern States"
by Jmaes Rolff.
Census Records: Monroe County, KY 1820, 1830, 1840
Jackson County, TN 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860
Camden County, MO 1850
Church Records: Mill Creek Baptist Church 1808-1873,
Southern Baptist Historcial Commission,
Nashville, TN.
Land Deeds: Russell County, VA 1814
South of the Walker Line: Joseph Strong
Tax Records: Barren County, KY: 1812, 1813, 1814, 1815, 1816,
1817, 1818, 1819
Russell County, VA 1796, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1802,
1810
1830 Census Records page 391
Tompkinsville Census taken Oct. 23, 1830
SAMUEL STRONG 13100001-10210100001
1830 Census page 380
THOMAS H. STRONG 00001-00001
Note: That in SAMUEL STRONG's census. It lists a woman that
is 80-90 years of age. Could this be ELIZABETH STRONG-MARTIN.
The reasoning behind this question is due to the fact that an
ELIZABETH MARTIN is listed as a member of the Mill Creek Baptist Church
in 1830-1840.
MONROE COUNTY, KY TAX LIST
1820 SAMUEL STRONG: 100 acres Line Creek, 10 acres Line Creek
1821 SAME
1822 SAME
1823 JOSEPH STRONG
SAMUEL STRONG 100 Acres Line Creek
10 Acres Line Creek
1824 SAME
1825 SAME
1826 SAME
1827 **** JOSEPH STRONG****** is missing from now on in Monroe County,
KY. However I have records showing that my JOSEPH
STRONG bought land in Jackson County (now Clay County), TN,
about the time of the Joseph Strong disapperaing in Monroe County.
1827 THOMAS STRONG
SAMUEL STRONG 110 acres Line Creek
10 acres Line Creek
1828 SAME
1829 SAME
1830 SAME
1831 SAME
1832 MISSING
1833 thru 1841 SAMUEL STRONG 100 Acres Line Creek
10 Acres Line Creel
1841 SAMUEL STRONG 110 acres Line Creek
WILLIAM STRONG
1842 SAME
1843 SAMUEL STRONG 110 Acres Line Creek
SCOTT STRONG
1844 No Strongs are Listed afterwards.
1830 census Jackson County, TN
JOHN STRONG males 1 30/40 yrs.
females 2 0/5, 1 5/10, 1 20/30
Note: a John Strong bought 100 acres on Line Creek in Jackson
County (it is on the present day border of Monroe CO. KY and Clay
CO. TN) on 3-9-1826
RECORDS of the MILL CREEK BAPTIST CHURCH
_________, 1829 Church Meeting:
Where as Samuel Strong presented himself before us at our July
meeting and let us know that he was once a member of Mockinson
Creek Church and was justly excluded and this church agrees to
take up the case in his behalf.
..............
Feb, 3rd Sat, 1830, First Church Meeeting....
The preference relating to the case of Samuel Strong called for
and attended to and as we have received no intellegence from
the Church at Mockinson Creek the said Strong requested the
church not to come to a decision of the matter, being there are
some minds laboring under some considerable embarrassments
relative to some unfavorable reports that is in circulation against
him. The church agrees to refer it to their April meeting for the
purpose of giving them an opportunity to remove the difficulty if
possible. But if they neglect or refuse to embrace the opportunity,
they must conform to the decision of the Church. But if they shall
embrace the opportunity and fail to gain satisfaction they shall have
the opportuntiy of laying their grievance before the church, at the
meeting above named."
"May 3rd 1830, Friday before the Saturday Church Meeting.
The reference relating to the case of Samuel Strong called for
and attended to now having received a letter from the Mockinson
Creek Church. Stating the crimes for which he was excluded
from among them also invested the church with full power to act
according to the freedom of her own will, to gather with the nature
of his recantation, the church recieved him an invited him to a
seat among them...."
"November 3, 1840, Saturday., Church Meeting.,
Brother Sam Strong asked the church whether she was or was not
dissatisfied with the conduct of the association for ________comes
from ____ with all other associations and the question being taken
the church unanimously ___ act of the association on account of
which Sml Strong absented himself from this church declaring that
he would not be governed by the church for which conduct the
church excluded him from the church and no one accountable for
his conduct."
Samuel Strong was excluded from the church along with Isacc
Denton. Isaac Denton was the father of Morning Denton, who
married Joseph "Josiah"Strong.
After 1844 no other Sml Strong is found in Monroe County, KY or
even Jackson County, TN. Could Samule have moved to Missouri?
In 1850, Camden Co., a Jennie Strong is listed. Could this be Jane
Casteel Strong who moved to Camden Co, with William Strong and
Scott Strong?
Jennie Strong 65 VA
Mary 30 VA
Julia 28 VA
Anderson 23 KY
Daniel 17 KY
William Strong 30 farmer KY
Delia 24 TN
Melissa 6/12 MO
Scott Strong 27 farmer KY
Catherine IL
1840 Census, Lincoln Co, TN. Pg. 32
John Strong farmer VA
Sarah TN
Polly TN
Elizabeth TN
Darthula TN
Samuel Clinton TN
Paralee Jane TN
Matilda TN
Catherine TN
Could this John Strong be the son of Samuel Strong that lived in
Jackson Co, TN in 1830 on Line Creek near Joseph Strong ?
1850 Census Barry Co, MO
Thomas Strong 40 farmer VA
Mary 38 KY
Samuel 17 TN
Sarah 15 TN
Jessie 12 TN
Mary 5 MO
Not Named 3 MO
Could this be the Thomas Strong listed with Samuel Strong
the Monroe County Tax list and Census of Monroe County, KY ?
Why do I think Samuel Strong is the Father of Joseph Josiah Strong?
1. Family history states tat he was.
2. The Monroe County, Tax list showing a Saml and Joseph
together.
3. My Joseph Strong had adaughter born in 1824/1826 named
Pheraby Strong. Her death certificate states that her mother
and father were Joseph Strong and Mourning Denton and that
she was born in Monroe County, KY. This is the same time and
place where the above stated Sml and Joesph Strong was and
no other Sml or Joseph Strong exists in Monroe County or
surronding areas.
4. Sml Strong was found in the Mill Creek Baptist Church, where
Morning Denton is a memeber. She married Joseph Strong.
The founder of the Church married Samuel Strong and Jennie
Casteel. The Casteel Familes live in present day Clay County
and married several children and desc. of Joseph Strong.
What do you think ?
Dave
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Revised, Updated "Welcome" Message
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 21:32:20 EST
TO STRONG MAIL LIST SUBSCRIBERS: Please assist me
in rewriting the Welcome Message to our List. Please review
the following message and send your suggested modifications
and corrections to me personally at < rtstrongjr@juno.com >.
Please do NOT post your replies to the Strong Mail LIst.
Please save a copy of this message for future reference.
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
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WELCOME to the STRONG Mail List
There is a lot of important information in this message,
including general information which pertains to all Surname
Lists available from the MAISER List Server as well as specific
information about the STRONG Mail List. Please take just a
few minutes to read this message. Keep it so you can refer to
it later.
If you do NOT start receiving mail soon, send the following
message to < MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >, beginning
on Line 1 of the body of the message. No Subject and no
signature is needed. [Your commands to MAISER may be
in either upper case or lower case or mixed case.]
REVIEW STRONG
EXIT
When you receive the list of subscribers, see if your E-Mail
address is on the list. If not, please notify the List Manager
at the following address.
rtstrongjr@juno.com
There are occasional days when no mesages are posted to
the STRONG Mail List, so allow one or two days before you
contact the LIst Manager.
If you have persistent problems, contact the List Manager
directly at the above address!
PLEASE READ AND SAVE THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE.
Printing a hard copy is advised. THANKS for doing so!
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SCOPE OF THE STRONG MAIL LIST: This is a discussion area
for anyone who has an interest in genealogy and history of the
STRONG family, anywhere, anytime, including all similar sounding
surnames (e.g., Straughan), etymologically equivalent names
(e.g., Strachan), surnames that may have been shortened to
Strong (e.g, Strongman or Stronger) and surnames that might be
misrecorded or misperceived as Strong or vice versa (e.g., Strang).
Following are the more common surnames in this group.
STRONG, STRONGE, STRONGMAN, STRAUGHAN, STRAUGHN,
STRANG, STRANGE, STRANGEMAN, STRACHAN, STRAWN
If and when the list becomes too large and burdensome and/or
when someone wishes to accept the responsiblity for becoming the
List Manager ("list owner") of one of these other surnames, the
list will be sudivided into several smaller Mail Lists.
REMEMBER the scope and purpose of the Strong Mail List. If
your message has nothing to do with the genealogy and history
of one of the families listed above, it does not belong here.
Please do not post off-topic messages; for example, virus alerts.
Commercial advertising will not be permitted. References to books
and articles ARE permitted within the context of a discussion of
the STRONG family or one of the related families. This includes
reference to one's own publications IF the reference is pertinent
to the discussion and is not a blatant advertisement. Most well-
composed messages will provide the sources [bibliography] of
the material posted and proper citations of credit to those whose
research work is being utilized.
When sending messages to the Strong Mail List, you are requested
to follow the same conventions for entering the SUBJECT as are
used by the Social.Genealogy.Surnames List, also known as the
ROOTS List (Roots-L). The "USA" may be dropped for the 50 states
of the United States of America. Please begin your Subject Line
with the surname in block capitals, followed by the location OR
migration route, followed by the time frame. Your Subject line
should usually contain three ingredients: WHO, WHERE, WHEN.
This will greatly assist everyone in scanning the Subjects lines to
determine which messages are relevant and which are irrelevant
to our respective interests. Here are several examples to use as
models:
STRONG: VA > TN > TX; 1672-Present
"STRAUNGE"/"STRANGE", William: ENG > VA; 1619 immigrant
"STRAUGHAN", William: Hanover Co., VA; 1730s
STRANG or STR0NG?, John: Essex Co., VA, d. 1718
Users of the STRONG Mail List are also requested to keep the
lengths of the lines in messages to a maximum of 65 spaces.
This will greatly reduce the breaking up of lines when additional
characters are added to replies, or when printing messages.
65 characters provides a 6 1/2 inch printed line when using
10-point fonts. Some subscribers to the STRONG Mail List use
large screen fonts; messages with lines longer than 65
characters tend to disintegrate when received by these
subscribers. Please be thoughtful of those who will be
reading your messages.
When replying to a message, please QUOTE sparingly. It
is usually not necessary to quote an entire message when
replying to it.
If you are researching a Surnames for which there are
few subscribers to the Mail List [that is, any surname other
than STRONG], you may not receive a reply to your query
immediately. Please persist and be patient. Encourage all
your E-Mail correspondents who share these surnames to
subscribe and participate in sharing their information.
Resubmit your queries about once per month.
Remember, though, if you do not communicate to others
on the Mail List, you are unlikely to receive correspondence
from others. The more frequently you communicate, and the
more substantive your messages are, the more replies you
are likely to receive. The mere changing in the wording
of a Subject line from one transmission to another may bring
a reply, or a new subscriber may see your mesage for the
first time when reposted. Please label messages previously
posted by beginning the Subject line with these words:
RE-POST:
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Read the rest of this message carefully. Please pay special
attention to the ADDRESSES. Subscribers continue to send
messages to the Strong Mail List or to the List Manager that
should be addressed to the MAISER List Server.
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For a list of known Internet newsgroups linked to genealogy,
send the following command
SEND LISTS
EXIT
to < MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >.
You may leave the SUBJECT line blank and no signature
is required.
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The STRONG Mail List is not moderated. Any message sent to it
is automatically distributed to everyone on the list. While the
List Manager in no way wants to stifle free discussion, as List
Manager I reserve the right to step in if a flame war erupts that
becomes tedious for other subscribers, or if someone becomes
unseemly (excessive use of profanity, for instance).
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PLEASE DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS WITH YOUR MESSAGES
TO THE STRONG MAIL LIST.
Most mail packages have a feature that allows you to "attach"
files such as a word processing file or text file or a GEDCOM.
These will be encoded and need to be decoded at the receiving
end. They may also be large. These can cause some users'
machines to lock up, so just say "No" to attachments.
If you wish to send a large file to the STRONG Mail List, it is
better to break the message into several smaller files. Some
E-Mail Service Providers, such as JUNO, have a 20 KB (about
20,000 bytes) size limit on messages that may be either sent or
received. That is a very generous limit: over 400 lines of
text. If you have any question about whether your message
is too large, save it to your hard drive as a text file, then
check the number of kilobytes by performing a DIRectory
command.
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Queries and replies of general interest should be posted to the
STRONG MAIL LIST. Replies and discussions that are NOT of
general interest to other subscribers on the Strong Mail List
should be sent to a person's private Internet E-mail address.
Any mail addressed to
STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
will automatically be sent to everyone on the mail list.
REMEMBER: If your message is of potential interest to only one
other person, send your message privately to that person by
E-Mail.
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PLEASE SAVE THIS MESSAGE.
To subscribe to the list, send a message to
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
and put
SUB STRONG
in the body of the message. Do not place this command in the
subject line, as anything you put in the subject line is ignored.
You DO NOT have to leave the subject line blank. The MAISER
List Server will ignore the Subject Line but will quote it back to
you when it replies to your command.
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To unsubscribe, send a message to the same address with
UNSUB STRONG
in the body. Send the message to the following address.
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
DO NOT send these messages to SUBscribe or to
UNSUBscribe to the STRONG List address, as this creates
unnecessary and unappreciated work for the volunteer
List Manager. DO NOT send SUB or UNSUB messages to
EITHER of the following addresses!!!
< STRONG@maiser.pop.indiana.edu >.
or to
< rtstrong@juno.com >
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To post a message to the list, send the message to the
STRONG Mailing List at the following address:
STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
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Digest Mode is not used on the STRONG Mail List. If, and
when, the traffic on the STRONG Mail List increases
dramatically, Digest Mode will be provided.
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To temporarily stop your mail (for example, when you are out of
town for more than a couple of days) send this command to
< MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >.
UNSUB STRONG
To resume receiving mail from the Strong Mail List, send this
command to < MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >.
SUB STRONG
Remember: these commands go to the following address.
< MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >
DO NOT address these commands to the following address.
< STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >
When you either UNSUB or SUB again, please notify the
List Manager in a brief message to the following address:
< rtstrongjr@juno.com
There is an alternate set of commands thay may also be
used, but there are disadvantages to the use of these
other commands. As List Manager of the STRONG Mail
List, I prefer that you use the UNSUB and SUB commands
for the purpose of temporarily halting and restarting your
mail.
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ALL COMMANDS DISCUSSED BELOW SHOULD BE SENT TO
THE < MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu > ADDRESS. ENTER
THE COMMAND, AS SHOWN, BEGINNING ON THE FIRST LINE
OF YOUR MESSAGE. MULTIPLE COMMANDS CAN BE SENT AT
ONCE, ONE COMMAND PER LINE, WITH NO BLANK LINES
BETWEEN THEM.
When multiple commands are sent, the command on the
last line should be EXIT with no punctuation following the
command, followed by a blank line.
=================================================
A help file is available. Send the message
HELP
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Other discussion lists are available at the MAISER site. To see
what is available, send a message to
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
with the command
SEND LISTS
in the first line of the message. To subscribe to any of the
mail lists, follow the instructions in the file. Most of the
available lists are provided from the Maiser List Server
< MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >)
but some of them are sent from other servers and have other
Internet addresses.
NEVER send to the MAISER@ address a line that begins with:
LIST
or
LISTSERVER
or
LISTEN
or any other word that begins with LIST_____, as this causes
the List Server computer to jam, slowing communications
for hours in some instances.
=================================================
Files are available for downloading. Send the command
INDEX
to MAISER for a listing of them. Have fun!
==================================================
You can retrieve archived messages. Send this command to
< MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >
SEND FILELIST
and then carefully follow the instructions in that file.
This procedure described in the message you receive
for reqesting a DIRectory of archived STRONG messages
is temporarily unavailable. Use the index provided by
the LIst Manager in the weekly Subscriber List to send
for archived messages. This is an index of dates when
NO messages were sent to the the STRONG Mail List.
You may request archived messages for any date NOT
on this list.
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MENTORING:
If you would like some one-on-one help with understanding mail
lists, send a message to one of the following people asking for
help.
bsolomon@mail.win.org Beth Solomon
carol@misnet.com Carol C-H
donnanc@ntworks.com Donna Beardmorgaine.
ruth@juno.com Ruth Hesterly
mpnotful@potvin.agn.net Pam Leonard
rosewebb@datasync.com Rose Webb
RWHitzman@aol.com Rebecca Hitzman
april@cellphone.com Sandy
Allenogala@fragile.ideal.net.au Sioux
vkbush@dcaccess.com Vivian Bush
bfhs@busprod.com Terri Moore
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ALSO, there is a new web page available that may help you.
Point your web browser at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9640/index.html
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The "General Manager" of all mail lists available from the
MAISER address is:
Larry Stephens (E-Mail: LVS@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu)
Indiana University Office of Risk Management
400 E. 7th Room 705, Bloomington, IN 47405
812-855-9758
To receive instructions on starting a new Surname Mail List,
send a message to < LVS@RMGATE.pop.indiana.edu >.
DO NOT contact Mr. Stephens regarding routine operational
procedures or complaints. Address these to the List Manager,
below.
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The Manager of the Strong Mail List is:
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr. (E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com)
119 Mystic Way, Lori's Landing S/D, Monrovia Community
Madison, AL 35758-7113
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End of message
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Lists of Lists Available from MAISER
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:07:55 EST
Larry Stephens had been quite preoccupied lately and
possibly forgot to post this announcement to the Listowners'
List. I have added a couple comments in brackets.
--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
Subject: Lists of Lists Available from MAISER
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 22:40:04 GMT-0500
THIS IS NOT AN ERROR MESSAGE - IT'S AN INFORMATION MESSAGE!
%%%%%%%
If you [Listowners only] still have questions after reading it,
contact me at
LVS@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
Be sure to tell me you've read this message, otherwise I'd probably
just send it to you again.
[If subscribers to ANY-SURNAME List have questions, they should
be addressed to the List Owner (List Manager) of their List.]
%%%%%%%
Effective March 12, 1997:
Because of the number of lists we have here now it has become necessary
to make up several files for obtaining lists-of-lists here.
The commands to get the files here all begin with the word SEND
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIST1.TXT has info on general interest (non-genealogy) lists
LIST2.TXT has info on state/regional/non-family lists
LIST3.TXT has info on families A&B
LIST4.TXT has info on families C&D
LIST5.TXT has info on families E-G
LIST6.TXT has info on families H-K
LIST7.TXT has info on families L-N
LIST8.TXT has info on families O-R
LIST9.TXT has info on families S&T
LIST10.TXT has info on families U-Z
Send your message to < MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >
SEND LIST1.TXT
SEND LIST2.TXT
EXIT
REMEMBER: Start the command [line] with SEND
[NEVER START THE COMMAND LINE WITH THE LETTERS "LIST....."!!!]
%%%%%%
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE DOWNLOADING THESE FILES.
[JUNO E-Mail Service has a limit of about 20,000 bytes.]
These sizes will change almost every day:
LIST1 TXT 9,425 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST2 TXT 35,214 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST3 TXT 24,891 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST4 TXT 23,488 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST5 TXT 15,674 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST6 TXT 22,151 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST7 TXT 29,055 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST8 TXT 20,527 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST9 TXT 21,719 03-12-97 2:06p
LIST10 TXT 15,543 03-12-97 2:06p
Try to configure your service (if you can) to receive files this size.
I hate to break them down again just yet.
NOTE: These lists 1) change all the time 2) may change in how they're
made up. Some services, like Juno, have a problem with big files, so I
have to change the number of files and what they cover from time to time.
%%%%%%
Be patient. We've become awfully busy here so it may take anything from a
few minutes to a few hours to get a response.
--------- End forwarded message ----------
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Nathan Strong of GA and LA
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:07:55 EST
ATTENTION: Karen Cherry
Lesson Learned?: It pays to post to the STRONG List!
As indicated, it was pure coincidence that I found
these Strong census records, as I was not searching
for Strongs. They just happened to be neighbors
of my Webster Parish, LA, maternal ancestors and
relatives.
I am particularly interested in learning whether
any male Strongs from this family moved into
Shreveport, Caddo Parish, LA, by the 1950s, but
that information is hard to find since we don't have
access to the 1930 and later census reports yet. I
do have some data from the City Directories in the
1950s and know the names of all the Strongs who
were residing there then. I have identified all but
one or two of these Strong families and wonder
if those came from Webster Parish. Most Strongs
in Shreveport had come there from East Texas.
Thank you for what you have shared with the
STRONG Mail List, thus far. I would hope that
you would share more detail, beginning with
the descent of Nathan Strong from John Strong,
III, about whom I have posted a good deal already,
but nothing much has been posted about John, III's
descendants yet.
Any of the following would be very helpful, if
you have the data available:
A Family Group Sheet for the family of John Strong, III.
A Family Group Sheet for the family of Robert Strong.
A Family Group Sheet for the family of Nathan Strong
A Family Group Sheet for the family of Nathan D. Strong
Descendancy Chart: your husband's descent from any
of the above, with details of dates, places, including
for spouses. Or, even better, if your data is in a genealogy
database, print out a "book report" for the descendants of
any of the above, using the modified register plan.
I find it is best to print such reports to a text file, then edit
and format the file with a text editor, then import the edited
file into my message editor for transmittal as an E-Mail
message. The file should not exceed 20,000 bytes, however.
I know nothing about Nathan D. Strong so will be looking
forward to your sharing more information about him.
I wonder if he knew his kinswoman, Emily Strong Corbell
of Erath County, Texas? (I haven't written about her
parent's family yet, either, I don't think.) Emily is my
GGG (I think!) Aunt. She was the second wife of Perry
Cornelius Corbell who relocated to Erath County around
1870s, if I remember correctly.
Your husband and I would be about 6th cousins, or 6th
cousins once removed, I suspect, with John Strong, Jr.,
of Hanover County, VA, as our common ancestor.
Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
================================================
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From: KARENJSC@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: Rec'd info
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:26:28 -0500 (EST)
Dear Bob,
Thank you so much for all the HELPFUL information you sent me
regarding my Nathan Strong family. I can't tell you how much it has
helped me and will help me in my research of this family. Of course, I
will be most happy to share on the List anything I have.
Nathan Strong's son Nathan Day Strong (my husband's line of
descent) moved to Texas, (Ellis Co and Erath Co.) and then to New Mexico
where he died.
How would you like me to post my information? I am not quite sure
how to go about it. I have shared all my information with Jim Rolff, who
told me about the Strong List and that I should join.
Again, thank you so much for all your help.
Sincerely, Karen Cherry
P.S. The Strong's are my husband's family line, not mine; but I always
feel his family is my family too, so I work on his lines also.
--------- End forwarded message ----------
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Ruth Strong m. Thomas Cushman, b. 1670
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:16:09 EST
ATTENTION: Bob Strong of Eaton Rapids, MI
Greetings, Name Sake! It is a pleasure to have
you join us on the Strong Family Discussion Group.
Thanks for this contribution, which I will forward
to Deborah ("Deb") < deborah@oz.sunflower.org >.
Rather than addressing replies to me, please
address them to the Discussion Group address:
< STRONG@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu >.
It was Theresa Lang who was so complimentary
of you in an earlier message to me. Theresa is
currently in the process of relocating to Oregon
and her mail is being delayed in delivery.
Bob T. Strong
--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: SFAASTRONG@aol.com
To: rtstrongjr@juno.com
Subject: Re: Ruth Strong m. Thomas Cushman, b. 1670
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:43:29 -0500 (EST)
Thomas Cushman III, b. ca. 1670 m. Sarah Strong, d/o
Jedediah Strong and Freedom Woodward and they had
a daughter Ruth Cushman b. ca. 1708 who m. Jonathan Hunt.
This is all the info I have on Thomas Cushman except that
his father, Thomas Cushman II married Ruth Howland.
Bob Strong
Eaton Rapids, MI
SFAASTRONG@aol.com
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From: KELASN@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Strong info
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:16:36 -0500 (EST)
Hi everyone. I am pretty new to the group and would like to post my only
STRONG.
Her name is Mary STRONG and she was born in Sag Harbor, Long Island, New York
on 29Sept1855. I do not know her parents names. I do know she married
Everett Alphonso HANCOCK in 1875 and they had one son. She died 23Jan1892.
Thank you for any info anybody has.
KELASN@aol.com (Kelly Loveall)
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From: Russell Laird
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Three STRAUNGEs From Long, Long Ago
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:04:29 -0600
Hello Everyone,
Received via snail today a copy of Family Chronicle magazine,
March/April 1997 edition, which features "The Agincourt Honor
Roll," which is a list of names of Englishmen who fought the
French, in France, in 1415, and won against pretty steep odds.
There were 5,700 English troops fighting an estimated 30,000
Frenchmen, the magazine says. This was during the reign of
Henry V.
The story says that the estimated 1,200 names were first
published in "an 1833 book." There are three STRAUNGEs
in the list.
Monsr. Hamond Straunge and Leouard Straunge are
listed under "Sir Thomas Erpyngham, Stuard of the
Kinges House with his Retenu"
Ebull Straunge is listed under "Robert Alderton, Under-
Clarke of the Kytchin"
---
There is a small sidebar that describes some pretty
interesting numbers, saying that if the 5,700 soldiers
who fought at this battle 22 generations ago had, on
average, two children each, each combatant could
have more than 4 million descendants today, yielding a
grand total of 3.8 billion people.
I'm no mathmetician. I wonder what the odds are that
some of us (all of us?) are 20-something generations
down the chart from one of these three.
Russell Laird
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From: Bill Strong
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: OH, IA, NE b.Dec. 11, 1822 d. Jan. 28, 1916
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:24:36 -0600
Looking for any info. on Herman Jusdson Strong born in Marion Co. OH and
lived near Grand Island, NE 1850's. Died in Veterans Home in
Marshalltown, IA. Was married to a Barabra Fike b. May 10, 1824 OH & d.
Dec. 21, 1886 in Cushin NE.
Anything would be appreciated as I have been stuck here a long time.
Thanks! Bill Strong
---------- End of message ----------
From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: SUBSCRIBERS to STRONG Mail List, 21 MAR 97
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:54:38 EST
>From the keyboard of Bob T. Strong, List Manager
Robert T. Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way
Madison, AL 35758-7113
E-Mail: rtstrongjr@juno.com
(I stuck the "T." in there after Bob so you want get
Robert S. (Bob) Strong and me confused. Or we
could be "Bob of MI" and "Bob of AL" or maybe
"Little Bob" and "Big Bob" [me], or "Young Bob"
and "Old Bob" [me].)
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ROBERT'S RAMBLINGS
It is Spring! And many of us will be getting out of doors
to pursue our favorite activites and to do some chores.
It will not surprise me if traffic on the Mail Lists slows.
Several of you had favorable comments about the
messages that were posted in response to my question:
"What does a Strong look like?" Thanks to each of you
who submitted physical descriptions of your Strong
ancestors. We would like to hear from the rest of you.
I was personally surprised at the commonalities of
descriptions about seemingly unrelated Strong families:
tall, black hair, gray or blue eyes. The black hair seems
so unpredictable for families who all are either proven or
presumed to have been "emigrants" from the British Isles.
[Has anyone heard of any Strongs from Wales? We have
English, Scotch, and Irish but no Welch.]
The related discussion of Indian heritage was also
well received and that topic is still open for further
discussion.
I asked your feedback about revisions to the Welcome
Message to the the Strong Mail List. One one reply was
received. I take this to mean one of two things. (1)
You didn't read the draft. (2) You read it and wasn't too
upset about anything you saw there. Since I mailed that
revision to you, I have received a revised "Sample" or
"Model" Welcome Message from Larry V. Stephens.
After studying Larry's new version, I will decide whether
to make any further changes. I am still open to receiving
your suggested changes.
After I posted the revised Welcome Message it occurred
to me that the attached Mentor List might be out of date.
An update has now been completed and I will forward a
copy to you. The Mentors are volunteers, most if not all
of whom are List Managers ("List Owners"), who will give
you tutoring on the use of the Maiser Mail Lists, upon
your request. All you have to do is ask for their assistance
by contacting them via E-Mail with you questions.
During the past week I have been informed that there
is a Word Wide Web site where you can also obtain help
on the use of Maiser Mail Lists. I will send that to you
separately. A method of accessing WWW sites by
E-Mail has also been communicated to me. I will test
that out to see if it works first, then forward the directions
to you if if works satisfactorily.
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If you know a Strong, etc., researcher who is not
already subscribed, please send them an invitation to
join us, to learn about our families, and to share
information about their families.
You are invited to resubmit any queries or lineages that
have not been posted in the past month. Just please
begin the Subject Line of these messages with "Re-Post:"
In your Subject Line include, if possible, Who, Where,
and When.
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CURRENT SUBSCRIBER LIST
Members of STRONG Mail List as of FRIDAY, 21 MAR 97
Current number of subscribers: 51
Welcome to New Subscribers This Week: 3
mescott@juno.com
aggiek@lcc.net (Agness Duncan Koch)
bstrong@fyiowa.infi.net (Bill Strong)
We look forward to our new subscribers introducing
themselves and their Strong, Strang, Strange,
Straughan, etc., family connections in the near future.
Please tell us Who, Where, and When about your
connections and you are also urged to post a descendancy
chart. Please also identify yourselves, if you have not
already done so, so that I can add a name to your E-Mail
address.
Not Receiving E-Mail from Strong List (Set to NOMAIL):
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong)
sbh3@juno.com (Sanford B. Hunt)
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Please report any corrections or additions to the Subscriber
List below to the List Manager. A migration route will be
added to your name and/or E-Mail address if you provide
that information.
"Descendants," as used below, includes researchers of these
families who may not be descendants.
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Strongs in England
reg040@coventry.ac.uk (Lise Elliott)
[Thomas Strong, b. 1766, East Sussex, England]
Strongs of England & Australia
strong@seranis.com.au (William ("Bill") Strong)
[Thomas Strong, d. bef. 1918, Oxford?, England]
Strongs of Ireland and Canada
wstrong@netinc.ca ("Bill" Strong) [IRE > CAN > MT, USA]
strong@sta.dfo.ca (Mike Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
Dbsandmd@nhb.com (Dave Strong) [IRE > ONT, CAN]
[George Strong, (b. Ireland abt. 1825, d. Ontario 1893)]
Other Strongs of Canada
Descedants of William Strong, b. 1825, of Newfoundland
bpederso@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Barbara Pederson)
gstrong@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (Gerry Strong)
Strongs of Scotland and Ireland and South Carolina
Charles Strong, b. Scotland, d. 1783 Ireland
Letitia Strong (b. 1766, Ireland-d. 1837, SC)
m. 1778 James STRONG, Jr. (b.1749, IRE -d.1829, SC)
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
Christopher Strong, b. 1760 IRE; d. 1850, Dickson Co., TN
lbetts@cphl.mindspring.com (Lowry Betts)
mcculler@mindspring.com (Jim McCuller)
Strongs of Ireland and South Carolina
James Strong, Sr. b.1709 Ireland; d, 1779 Chester Co., SC
weir@u.washington.edu (Thomas Weir)
Rdellinger@barr.com (Roger Dellinger)
John Strong, "Elder", of England, Massachusetts, and
Connecticut
Descendants of Thomas Strong, son of John Strong
cterrell@juno.com (Cleta Terrell)
Varow48@aol.com (Sandi Strong Rowe)
theresa@lang.org (Theresa Lang)
PattFulton@aol.com (Patt Fulton)
Descendants of Hannah Strong, daughter of John Strong
sbh3@juno.com [Sanford B. Hunt)
Descendants of Return Strong (son of John) and Sarah Warham
Sarah Strong m. 1696 (Capt.) John Higley in Windsor, CT
WHigleyjr@aol.com (Wayne Higley, Jr.)
Descendant of Hester Strong, daughter of John Strong
RuthThoden@AOL.com (Ruth Thoden)
Possible descendants of John Strong, "Elder", of Massachusetts
JBleaux@aol.com (Joe Ticknor Breeze)
[Tabitha Strong of Salisbury, Litchfield Co., CT
m. 1772 John Ticknor (or Tickner)]
dparker@ma.ultranet.com ( Dick Parker)
[George Strong of Marblehead, MA]
Strongs of Northeastern U. S.
KADICA@aol.com (Karen McKellar)
[__?__ Strong of Pennsylvania]
ATHACKNEY@aol.com (Allan T. Hackney)
[Charles STRONG, b. 4 Apr 1778 d. 1844 in Leesburg,
Cumberland Co., New Jersey]
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W Bratt)
[James STRONG b. 1727; d. 1804, York Co., PA:
Great Britain ? > PA > OH ]
KELASN@aol.com (Kelly Loveall)
[Mary Isabelle STRONG b. 1855 Sag Harbor, LI, New York,
d. 1892; m. Everett Alphonso HANCOCK, resided Groton, CT.
Strongs of Midwestern U. S.
dearborn@ccnet.com (Mr. Terry Dearborn)
[Lysander STRONG. b. 1791 [CT?]; d.1837, Medina, OH]
Strongs of Central U.S.
edwart@sdcpos3c.daytonoh.ncr.com [Teresa L. Edwards]
Nancy Jane Strong Fleetwood, d. 1898, Douglas Co., MO
bstrong@fyiowa.infi.net (Bill Strong)
Herman J. STRONG: OH > IA > NE, 1822 - 1916
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
Descendants of John Strong, Jr., son of John Strong, Sr.
Descendants of Martin Strong, 1st
rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
AkwiredTst@aol.com ("Matt" Strong)
aggiek@lcc.net (Agness Duncan Koch)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Jr.
moss44@seark.net (R. W. MOSS)
Descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John Strong, Sr.
rlaird@1starnet.com (Russell Laird)
jrolff@juno.com (James R. Rolff m. Sandra Strong)
unkletom@cctrap.com (Thomas Mathews)
James Strong, b. KY, about 1844
Daniel W. Strong of Gainesville, Ozark Co., MO
Probable descendants of John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co.,VA
Probable descendants of William Strong, Sr., son of John, Sr.
Descendants of Joseph Strong of Jackson/Clay Co., TN
dhendrix@asrr.arsusda.gov (Donald L. Hendrix)
ccason@CompuServe.com (Carl Cason)
DStrong155@aol.com (Dave Strong)
Descendants of Samuel Strong of Rockingham Co., NC
and Lawrence Co., MS
ldooley@dexter.net (Leanne Dooley)
Descendants of unidentified Strongs of Rockingham Co., NC
FLane@otn.net (Francie Lane)
Probable descendant of John Strong, Jr., Hanover Co., VA
Probable descendant of David Strong of Giles Co., TN
Susan Strong Haden %
Merlinesk@aol.com (Wade R. Watts)
STRAUGHAN Family researchers:
russie@bellsouth.net (Norma Straughan Russie)
John Wm. STRAUGHAN, b. 20 DEC 1842, ENG > VA
JJStrawn@msn.com (Jim Straughan)
Straughan/Straughn: VA > KY, ca. 1760s.
STRANG Family researchers:
ebratt@attmail.com (Emmett W. Bratt)
[STRANG: ENG>PA;1700's]
STRANGE Family researchers:
Helen@strange1.demon.co.uk
[James Strange of London, ENG, abt 1780 & descendants.]
Lineage unidentified or unknown or not clear.
Some subscribers have not posted their lineage--
or perhaps I have overlooked it.
jrshome@msmary.edu
hereford@cdc.net
JSGR@aol.com
joerob@beaches.net
KARENJSC@aol.com
cathyl@TSO.Cin.IX.Net (Catherine H. Lippert)
SFAAStrong@aol.com (Robert S. Strong)
mescott@juno.com
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: (1) Mentors for MAISER Lists; (2) Guidebook: Internet via E-Mail
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:06:18 EST
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MENTORING:
If you would like some one-on-one help with understanding mail
lists, send a message to one of the following people asking for
help.
bsolomon@mail.win.org Beth Solomon
april@cellphone.com Sandy Allen
KayRockett@webtv.net Kay Rockett
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morgaine.ruth@juno.com Ruth Hesterly
mpnotful@potvin.agn.net Pam Leonard
rosewebb@datasync.com Rose Webb
RWHitzman@aol.com Rebecca Hitzman
vkbush@dcaccess.com Vivian Bush
bfhs@busprod.com Terri Moore
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GUIDEBOOK: Accessing WWW by E-Mail
This document is now available from several automated mail servers.
To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below.
To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu (for US, Canada & South America)
Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
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Enter only this line in the BODY of the note:
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Or on the Web in HTML format at:
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The above information was provided by:
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Online Mentor
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From: "Roger Dellinger"
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Descendants of James Strong, Sr. of Ireland and South Carolina
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:28:00 -0600 (CDT)
Back on February 5th I posted information on James Strong, Sr. and his
wife Elizabeth and their children. Today I post information 2 of his
children's family, Robert Strong and James Strong, Jr., both of who I
descend from. I will use the same numbering scheme as before, and
use the same numbers for everyone previously listed.
2- 3 Robert Strong was born 1752 and died 20 Oct 1824. He is buried in
the Hopewell A.R.P. Cemetery in Chester Co., SC. In his will he lists his
wife, Sarah, sons John, James, Robert and William. His executors were
his wife, son James and brother in law John Simonton. It was
witnessed by Hugh McQuiston, James McConnell and James Strong, Jr.
He married Sarah Simonton, daughter of Robert and Margaret Simonton,
b. 1760, d. 19 Apr 1831. She too is buried in the Hopewell Cemetery.
Their children are:
3 - 18 James Strong, more about below
3 - 19 Robert S. Strong, more about below
3 - 20 John Strong, more about below
3 - 21 William Strong, more about below
2 - 6 James Strong, Jr. b. 1760 in Ireland, d. 5 Nov 1823 in Chester Co.,
SC. He is buried in the Harbison Burying Ground in Chester Co., SC. His
will was written on 6 May 1823 and probated on 1 Dec 1823. In his will it
mentions his wife, Letty; his sons Christopher, Charles, and William
James; his daughters Jennet Weir, Mary Moffatt, and Martha Strong; his
son-in-law John Moffatt; grandson, Charles L. Moffatt; and
granddaughter, Letty T.L. Moffatt. His executors where his wife, Letty
and son-in-law John Weir. The will was witnessed by David Moffatt,
Charles Erwin and Dorrance B. Woodburn. James Strong, Jr. married a
cousin (at this time I'm not sure of the relationship) Letitia Strong,
daughter of Charles Strong and Janet "Jennie" Gaston, b. 1 Feb or Mar
1766 in Ireland, d. 27 Nov 1837 in Chester, Co., SC. Her will was written
on 13 Apr 1836 and probated on 4 Feb 1838. In her will she mentions,
Letty Moffatt, Mary Letty Strong (daughter of Rev. Charles Strong),
Charles Moffatt, Barbara Moffatt, Jennet Weir, Molly Moffatt, Martha
Strong, James Strong and John Strong. The executors were James and
John Strong. It was witnessed by James Strong, Robert Strong and
Peggy Strong.
L. Betts asked "Dellinger shows that Letitia Strong died in Chester Co,
SC, but no burial place is given. If she died in SC, why a tombstone for
her in TN?" The reason I state, and maybe incorretly, the Letitia Strong
died in South Carolina, is that her Will is recorded in Chester Co., SC.
James Strong, Jr. and Letitia Strong has the following children:
3 - 28 daughter Strong, b. 1781 in SC
3 - 29 Elizabeth Strong, more on below
3 - 30 Jennet Strong, more on below
3 - 31 Rev. Charles Strong, more on below
3 - 32 Mary "Mollie" Strong, more on below
3 - 33 James Strong, b. 1796 in SC, d. 17 Jun 1803.
3 - 34 Martha Strong, b. 1797 in SC
3 - 35 Christopher Strong, more on below
3 - 36 William James Strong, more on below
3 -37 John Strong
3 - 18 James Strong, b. 1783 in SC, d. 17 Nov 1849 in SC. He is buried
in Hopewell Cemetery. He married Jane Blaine around 1810 in SC. Jane
was born 1793 in SC and d. 9 Feb 1875. She is the daughter of James
Blaine and Margaret McQuiston. Jane and their children are listed in the
Chester Co., SC censuses for 1850 and 1860. James and Jane Strong
had the following children:
4 - 1 child Strong, b. 1809
4 - 2 Margaret Strong, b. 20 Feb 1811 in SC, d. 22 Apr 1892 in SC and is
buried in the Hopewell Cemetery in Chester Co., SC
4 -3 Robert Strong, b. 6 Dec 1812 in SC, d. 9 Jan 1866 in SC and is
buried in the Hopewell Cemetery.
4 - 4 James Strong, b. 1815 in SC, married Mary Chisholm. They are
listed in the 1870 Tipton Co., Tennessee census.
4 - 5 Elizabeth Strong, b. 15 Jan 1817 in SC, d. 7 Jul 1871 in SC and is
buried in the Hopewell Cemetery.
4 - 6 Sarah Strong, b. 1821 in SC
4 - 7 Charles Strong, b. 13 Jul 1824 in SC, d. 2 Aug 1850 in SC and is
buried in the Hopewell Cemetery.
4 - 8 Andrew Strong, b. 1826 in SC, d. 30 Oct 1864 in Elmira, NY. He
married Elizabeth Chisholm. They are listed in the 1860 Chester Co., SC
census. It is possible he died while a prisoner of war during the Civil
War.
4 - 9 John Strong, b. 4 Jan 1829 in SC d. 2 Apr 1873 in SC, buried in
Hopewell Cemetery. His will which was written on 22 Mar 1873 and
probated 12 Apr 1873 and recorded in Chester Co., SC mentions his
sister, Margaret Strong and brother Rev. Hugh Strong. It was witnessed
by W.G. Rollin, Andrew Blaine and A. Strong.
4 - 10 William Strong, b. 23 Aug 1831 in SC d. 25 Feb 1857 in SC and
buried in Hopewell Cemetery. He married Martha R. Boyd in Jun 1856 in
Chester Co., SC.
4 - 11 Hugh Strong, b. 1835 in SC d. 29 Mar 1885. He was a teacher in
1860.
4 - 12 Christopher Hemphill Strong, b. 1 Apr 1836 in SC d. 6 Nov 1868 in
SC and is buried in the Hopewell Cemetery.
3 - 19 Robert S. Strong, b. Apr 1786 in SC, d. 1 Nov 1832 in SC. He is
buried in Hopewell Cemetery. Robert's will was recorded in Fairfield Co.,
SC and was written on 24 Feb 1832. The administrators of the will were
Jennet and Samuel Strong. In the Will it mentions his widow Jennet,
Samuel M., Sarah (wife of Thomas Bonner), Robert, Jane, Elizabeth,
James R., Martha, Mary and William. He married Jennet McKee. Jennet is
the daughter of Samuel McKee and she was b. 1789 in SC and d. 23 Dec
1842 in Monroe Co., IN. On 5 Oct 1834 Jennet sold her 180 acres of land
in SC for $1080. Jennet Strong joined the ARP Church in Monroe Co., IN
on the 4th Saturday of May 1835. She is buried in United Presbyterian
Cemetery in Monroe Co., IN. Robert and Jennet Strong had the following
children:
4 - 13 Samuel M. Strong, b. 18 Oct 1810 in Fairfield Co., SC, d. 9 Sep
1855 in Monroe Co., IN. He purchased 2 acres of land in Monroe Co. IN
on 5 Dec 1834 followed by a purchase of 180 acres on 8 Dec 1834 and
another 47 acres on 27 Dec 1835. He and was wife joined the ARP
Church in Monroe Co., IN at the same time as his mother. He is buried in
the United Presbyterian Cemetery in Bloomington, Monroe Co., IN. He is
listed in the 1850 Indiana, Monroe Co., census along with his wife and
children. He married Letitia J. Weir.
4 - 14 Sarah Strong married Thomas Bonner
4 - 15 Robert R. Strong, b. 1815 in SC, married Margaret Wylie. He
purchased 120 acres of land in Monroe Co., IN in 1835 and another 40
acres in 1836.
4 - 16 Jane M. Strong, b. 30 Nov 1817 in SC, d. 3 Feb 1900 in Paxton,
Ford Co., IL. She is buried in the Glen Cemetery in Paxton. She married
James Moffatt on 20 Jan 1848 in Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 17 Eliza Strong, b. 30 Jan 1820 in SC d. 28 Dec 1910 in Monroe Co.,
IN. She is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery in Bloomington, IN.
She married Charles S. Weir (the brother of Letitia Weir, who is
mentioned above) on19 Mar 1840 in Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 18 James R. Strong, b. 1821 in SC. He married Caroline Baker on 20
Mar 1845 in Monroe Co., IN. They are listed in the 1850 Indiana, Monroe
Co. census along with their two sons.
4 - 19 Martha B. Strong, b. 4 Dec 1824 in SC d. 29 Sep 1890 in Monroe
Co., IN. She is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery along side her
husband Samuel Moffatt. Martha and Samuel were married 19 Aug 1847
in Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 20 Mary Strong, b. 1825 in Chester Co., SC, d. 22 Jan 1905 in Paxton,
Ford Co., IL. She is buried in the Glen Cemetery in Paxton. She married
Samuel Romain Moffatt on 12 Mar 1855 in Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 21 William Strong, b. 1829 in SC. He married Mary ? and they are
listed in the 1850 Indiana Monroe Co. census
3 - 20 John Strong, b. 1790 in SC, d. 1867 in Tipton Co., TN. Married
Martha Jaggers. Martha was b. 1798 in SC. Their children were:
4 - 22 Elizabeth Strong, b. 11 Arp 1820 in SC, b. 15 Apr 1888 in TN. She
is buried in the Salem Cemetery in Tipton Co., TN. She married Archibald
McQuiston in 1837 in SC.
4 - 23 child Strong, b. 1822 in SC, died young.
4 - 24 Letitia Strong, b. 1824 in SC. Married 1st. Archibald McQuiston
Simonton on 25 Nov. 1842 in Tipton Co., TN and 2nd William Ross McCain
on 13 Feb 1856.
4 - 25 Robert Strong, b. 1826 in SC. Married Isabella ?. They are listed
in the 1870 and 1880 Tipton Co., TN censuses along with their children.
4 - 26 James Hemphill Strong, b. 14 May 1827 in Chester Co., SC. He
married Hibernia Agnes Ellis on 14 Aug 1854 in Due West, Abbeville Co.,
SC.
4 - 27 Sarah J. Strong, b. 1830 in SC d. before 1867. Married John G.
Mathews on 23 Dec 1850 in Tipton Co., TN.
4 - 28 child Strong, b. 1832 in SC d. young.
4 - 29 Charles F. Strong, b. 1834/35 in SC. Married 1st. Martha Ann
Dickson on 22 Jan 1857 in Tipton Co., TN, 2nd Sarah A. Simonton on 26
Sep 1860.
4 - 30 Mary Strong, b. 1837
4 - 31 John Wilson Strong, b. 1840 in TN. Married M. Jane McKinstry.
3 - 21 William Strong b. 1798 in SC, d. 3 Nov 1870 in Lincoln Co., TN. He
married Margaret McDill in 1816 in Chester Co., SC, then to Matilda
McCullough in 1830 and thirdly to Mary Harper in Jan 1834. Margaret
McDill was b. 4 Jun 1796 in SC and d. 28 Dec 1827 in SC, she is buried in
the Moffatt, Strong, McDill Graveyard in Chester Co., SC. She is the
daughter of John McDill and Mary Bonner. William Strong and Margaret
McDill are the parents of:
4 -32 Robert S. Strong, b. 1817 in SC d. Jan 1876 most likely in Lincoln
Co., TN which is where his will is recorded. His will was written 1 Mar
1875 and probated on 31 Jan 1876. He gives land to S.P. and Eliza
McCullough. His executor was Robert Moore. Robert S. Strong married
Margaret Penny on 2 Jan 1842 in Lincoln Co., TN
4 - 33 Mary B. Strong, b. 19 Mar 1819 in SC, d. 21 Aug 1888. She is
buried in the Prosperity Cemetery. She married Alexander P. Hayes on
14 Jan 1839 in Lincoln Co., TN.
4 -34 Sarah B. Strong, b. 29 Mar 1821 in SC, d. 2 Dec 1903 in TN. She is
buried in the Prosperity Cemetery in Lincoln Co., TN.
4 - 35 Eliza Strong, b. 30 Sep 1823 in SC, d. 9 Oct 1898 in TN and is
buried in the Prosperity Cemetery in Lincoln Co., TN. She married Samuel
P. McCullough on Christmas Day, 1849 in Lincoln Co., TN.
4 - 36 Margaret Jane Strong, b. 4 Nov 1824 in SC, d. 1 Nov 1910 in TN.
She is buried in the Prosperity Cemetery in Lincoln Co., TN. She married
Robert Moore on 26 Nov 1846 in Lincoln Co., TN
4 - 37 Grizilda Strong, b. 1827/28 in SC. She married Thomas Pringle
Grier.
3 - 21 William Strong married for the 2nd time to Matilda McCullough in
1830 in Chester Co., SC. Matilda McCullough was b. May 1800 and d. 7
Apr 1887. William and Matilda were divorced in TN 1833. They had the
following children:
4 - 38 Malinda Strong, b. 1831 in SC, d. 19 Sep 1880 in SC. She is
buried in the Catholic Presbyterian Cemetery in Chester Co., SC.
3 - 21 William Strong married for a third time to Mary Harper in Jan 1834.
Mary was born in SC and d. 1 Nov 1862. My notes say she was born in
1830, but I doubt she was 4 years old when she got married. Their
children were:
4 - 39 Martha A. Strong, b. 23 Dec 1834 in Lincoln Co., TN. She married
James H. Phagan on 3 Dec 1857.
4 - 40 Isabelle Strong, b. 11 Dec 1835 in TN, d. 16 OCt 1894 in TN. She
is buried in the Prosperity ARP Cemetery in Lincoln Co., TN. She married
George Riley Allen on 23 Dec 1858 in Lincoln Co., TN.
4 - 41 William Strong, b. Aug 1837 in TN, d. 27 Jan 1853 in TN.
4 -42 Caledonia Strong, b. 21 Jun 1840 in TN.
4 - 43 John Monroe Strong, b. 11 Nov 1842 in TN, d. 2 Jun 1904 in TN.
He is listed in the 1880 TN, Lincoln Co. census with other brothers and
sisters but no parents. He is buried in Prosperity Cemetery. He married
Louisa Cleghorn Jobe on 8 Nov 1893 in Lincoln Co., TN.
4 - 44 Susan F. Strong, b. 22 Aug 1846 in TN, d. 11 Mar 1919 in TN and
is buried in Prosperity Cemetery. She married John W. Sanders on 24
Aug 1879 in Lincoln Co., TN.
4 - 45 Lewis Cass Strong, b. 22 Dec 1849 in TN, d. 10 Sep 1920 and is
buried in the Rose Hill Cemetery in Fayetteville, TN. He married Mary C.
Smith on 28 Feb 1882 in Lincoln Co., TN. He married for a second time to
Ella Smith on 19 Sep 1901. His will was recorded in Lincoln Co., TN and
written on 21 Aug 1920 and probated on 10 Sep 1920. In his will he
mentions five children: Retha May Ashby, wife of Samuel Ashby; Winnie
Cole Fleming, wife of Aaron Fleming; Tom G. Strong; Charles Waddle
Strong; and Cleo Strong. It was witnessed by S.C. McCown and J.E.
Rawls.
4 - 46 James M. Strong, b. 2 Aug 1852, d. 18 Jul 1893 in TN. He is
buried in Prosperity Cemetery in Lincoln Co., TN. He Will was written on
19 Jul 1893 and mentions his sister Susan Sanders, and brothers J.
Monroe Strong and L.C. Strong. His executor was L.C. Strong.
3 - 29 Elizabeth Strong, b. Nov 1784 in Chester Co., SC, d. 15 Feb 1819
in Chester Co., SC and is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill Graveyard
in Chester Co., SC. She married John Moffatt on 24 Jul 1803 in Chester
Co., SC. John Moffatt is the son of William Moffatt and Barbara Chestnut
and was born 17 Jan 1783 in Chester Co., SC d. 26 Jan 1859 in Troy,
Obion Co., TN where he is buried in the Troy Cemetery. He later married
Jane Telford in 1826 in Chester Co., SC. John Moffatt had 8 children by
his second wife. Elizabeth Strong and John Moffatt's children are:
4 - 47 Letitia Margaret Strong Moffatt, b. 1 Oct 1804 in Chester Co., SC,
d. 25 Oct 1824 in Chester Co., SC, she is buried in the Moffatt, Strong,
McDill Graveyard in Chester Co., SC. She married her 1st cousin, William
Strong Moffatt about 1822 in SC.
4 - 48 William A. Moffatt, b 10 Oct 1806 in Chester Co., SC, d. 14 Nov
1832 in Greenville Co., SC. He is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill
Graveyard.
4 - 49 James Strong Moffatt, b. 10 Mar 1808 in Chester Co., SC, d. 18
Dec 1890 in Troy, Obion Co., TN where he is buried in the Troy
Cemetery. He moved from Chester Co., SC to Obion Co., TN in 1840. He
married a cousin, Martha Moffatt on 1 Mar 1829 in Chester Co., SC. After
her death he remarried to another Martha in 1860.
4 - 50 Samuel Moffatt, b. 20 Feb 1810 in Chester Co., SC d. 27 Oct 1832
in Chester Co., SC where he is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill
Graveyard.
4 - 51 Charles Strong Moffatt, b. 1812 in Chester Co., SC d. Nov 1842 in
Chester Co., SC where he is buried in the Old Purity Cemetery.
4 - 52 Barbara Moffatt, b. 1814 in Chester Co., SC, d. 1901 in Nebraska.
She is buried in Danbury, Red Willow Co., Nebraska. She married John
Millen in 1834.
4 - 53 David Moffatt, b. 1817 in Chester Co., SC, d. 1898 in Troy, Obion
Co., TN where he is buried in the Troy Cemetery.
4 - 54 John Hemphill Moffatt, b. 1819 in Chester Co., SC and d. 1820 in
Chester Co., SC. He is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill Graveyard.
3 - 30 Jennet Strong, b. 3 Apr 1786 in Chester Co., SC, d. 5 Oct 1873 in
Monroe Co., IN. She is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery in
Bloomington, Monroe Co., IN. She married John Weir in 1 Jan 1805 in SC.
John Weir is the son of John Weir and Elizabeth Campbell and he was b.
1780 in Ireland and d. 18 Nov 1856 in Monroe Co., IN. He is also buried in
the United Presbyterian Cemetery. Jennet Strong and John Weir had the
following children:
4 - 55 Elizabeth Weir, b. 1812 in SC, d. 29 Sep 1892 in IN and is buried in
the United Presbyterian Cemetery in Bloomington, Monroe Co., IN. She
married Archibald Wilson in 1832.
4 - 56 Letiitia J. Weir, b. 21 Aug 1814 in Chester Co., SC, d. 19 Nov 1884
in Monroe Co., IN. She is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery in
Bloomington, IN. She married her cousin Samuel M. Strong, who is # 4 -
13, listed above.
4 - 57 James Weir, b. 8 Mar 1815 in SC, d. 19 Dec 1839 in SC. He is
buried in the Hopewell Cemetery in Chester Co., SC.
4 - 58 Charles S. Weir, b. 3 Jun 1817 in SC, d. 12 Jul 1898 in Monroe Co.,
IN. He is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery in Bloomington, IN.
He married his cousin Eliza Strong, # 4 -17 listed above.
4 - 59 Alexander C. Weir, b. about 1820 in SC, d. 1 Mar 1881 in Richland
Twp., Monroe Co., IN. He married Eliza H. Woodward on 26 Feb 1845 in
Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 60 Samuel Weir, b. 26 Jul 1822 in SC, d. 9 Jun 1859 in Monroe Co.,
IN. buried United Presbyterian Cemetery. He married 1st Elizabeth S.
Strong, 2nd Mary Cartcart on 3 Oct 1854 in Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 61 Mary Weir, b. 1824 in SC, married Samuel Millen on 6 Aug 1846 in
Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 62 Martha M. Weir, b. Feb 1826 in SC, d. 1915 in Monroe Co., IN and
is buried in Rose Hill Cemetery in Bloomington, IN. She married John
Wylie on 27 Jan 1848 in Monroe Co.,IN.
4 - 63 child Weir, b. 1828 in SC.
4 - 64 Nancy Weir, b. about 1830 in SC. Married Origen Wallace on 13
Sep 1853 in Monroe Co., IN
3 - 31 Rev. Charles Strong, b. 4 Aug 1788 in SC, d. 20 Jul 1824 in
Newberry Co., SC. He married Nancy Agnes Harris on 13 Feb 1817.
Nancy is the daughter of John Harris and Martha Hunter and she died 8
Nov 1842 in North Carolina. She is buried in the Steele Creek Cemetery in
North Carolina. Charles Strong and Nancy Harris had the following
children:
4 - 65 child Strong, b. 1812
4 - 66 child Strong, b. 1814
4 - 67 John Mason Strong, b. 1 Sep 1816, d. 11 Mar 1898 in North
Carolina. He married Rachel Eleanor ?
4 - 68 child Strong, b. 1818
4 - 69 Martha Jane Strong, b. 18 Jan 1820 in Newberry Co., SC. She
married 1st, John S. Pressley on 29 Sep 1842 and 2nd James Little
Young on 8 Jan 1867.
4 - 70 Mary Letitia Strong, b 12 Apr 1821. She married James Clark
Chalmers on 12 Dec 1839.
4 - 71 Euphemia Eleanor Strong, b. 19 Jan 1823, d. 28 Oct 1862. She
married John Norris Young on 21 Oct 1845.
4 - 72 Nancy Caroline Strong, b. Mar 1824, d. 31 Aug 1847 in Burke Co.,
GA. She married Augustus L. Patterson.
4 - 73 child Strong, b. 1826.
3 - 32 Mary "Mollie" Strong, b. 20 Apr 1791 in SC, d. 12 Nov 1875 in
Monroe Co., SC. She is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery in
Bloomington, Monroe Co., IN. She married David Moffatt in 1809 in
Chester Co., SC. She is my great - great - great grandmother. David
Moffatt is the son of William Moffatt and Barbara Chestnut. David was
born around 1785/1790 in SC. He died 20 Aug 1830 in Chester Co., SC.
He is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill Graveyard. After her husband
died she relocated to Monroe Co., IN prior to May 1835 when she joined
the ARP Church in Monroe Co., IN. She also purchased 160 acres of
land in Richland Twp., Monroe Co. in 1835. David and Mollie Moffatt had
the following children:
4 - 74 Letitia Barbara Moffatt, b. 11 Dec 1809 in Chester Co., SC, d. 8
Mar 1896 in Paxton, Ford Co., IL. She is buried in the United Presbyterian
Cemetery in Bloomington, Monroe Co., IN. She married James B. Miller in
1828 in SC.
4 - 75 Martha Moffatt, b. 29 Apr 1813 in Chester Co., SC, d. 9 Feb 1908
in Remington, Jasper Co., IN. She is buried in the Rose Hill Cemetery in
Bloomington, Monroe Co., IN. She married Maxwell Wilson on 18 Dec
1833 in SC. They are the great great grandparents of Thomas Weir, who
is also a member of the Strong list.
4 - 75 Mary D. Moffatt, b. 26 Jul 1815 in Chester Co., SC, d. 10 Nov 1873
in Monroe Co., IN. She is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery in
Bloomington, IN. She married Samuel Harbison.
4 - 76 Nancy Moffatt, b. 1816 in Chester Co. SC.
4 - 77 Jennet Moffatt, b. 1818 in SC, d. 6 Jul 1818 in Chester Co., SC.
She is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill Graveyard in Chester Co., SC.
4 - 78 William Strong Moffatt, b. about 1819 in Chester Co., SC. He
married Martha Ann Legg on 18 Jan 1844 in Monroe Co., IN.
4 - 79 Eliza A. Moffatt, b. about 1820 in SC. Married Samuel C. Harbison,
not the same person as Mary D. Moffatt's husband.
4 - 80 James Moffatt, b. 2 Jan 1822 in Chester Co., SC, d. 12 Nov 1895
in Paxton, Ford Co., IL where he is buried in the Glen Cemetery. He
married his cousin Jane M. Strong, who is # 4 - 16, listed above.
4 - 81 Samuel Moffatt, b. 9 Jan 1824 in Chester Co., SC, d. 23 May 1824
in Chester Co., SC where he is buried in the Moffatt, Strong, McDill
Graveyard.
4 - 82 Samuel Moffatt, b. 31 Mar 1825 in Chester Co., SC, d. 17 Jun 1880
in Monroe Co., IN where he is buried in the United Presbyterian Cemetery.
He married his cousin Martha B. Strong, who is # 4 - 19 listed above.
4 - 83 Charles Christopher Moffatt, b. about 1828 in Chester Co., SC. He
married Catherine Ann Harbison on 20 Nov. 1851 in Monroe Co., IN. He
later married after the death of his first wife to Margaret Jane Bonner on
30 Oct 1855.
4 - 84 Jane Moffatt, b. 1830 (after the death of her father) in SC, d. 1913
in Monroe Co., IN where she is buried in Rose Hill Cemetery. She married
Samuel Mc. Wylie on 20 Mar 1848 in Monroe Co., IN.
3 - 35 Christopher Strong, b. Aug 1801, d. 9 Aug 1845 in Chester Co.,
SC. He married Martha Harris in 1825. Martha is the daughter of John
Harris and Martha Hunter, and she was b. 21 Mar 1803 and d. 19 Mar
1855. Christopher and Martha Strong had the following children:
4 - 85 Emily Strong, b. 29 Feb 1826, d. 14 Mar 1885 in York Co., SC. She
married Thomas Grier Wylie.
4 - 86 Catherine Strong, b. 11 Aug 1827 d. 11 May 1898. She married
Samuel Blair.
4 - 87 John Harris Strong, b. Jul 1831, d. 14 May 1832 in Chester Co., SC
where he is buried in the Hopewell Cemetery.
4 -88 Mary L. Strong, b. 21 Mar 1833, d. 2 Jun 1850 in Chester Co., SC
where she is buried in the Hopewell Cemetery. She married Samuel J.
Wylie in 1849.
4 - 89 Agnes Caroline Strong, b. 5 Nov 1835, d. 8 Apr 1902 in Charlotte,
North Carolina. She is buried in the New Hope Cemetery in Fairfield Co.,
SC. She married 1st. John Brice, Jr. 2nd Thomas Patrick Mitchell.
4 - 90 daughter Strong, b. 5 Jan 1836 in SC, b. in SC and is buried in the
Hopewell Cemetery in Chester Co., SC.
3 - 36 William James Strong, b. 31 Aug 1804 in SC, d. 6 Nov 1856 in
Tipton Co., TN. He married 1st. Elizabeth about 1830 in SC, 2nd. Lauretta
L. Bernard on 16 Nov 1847 and 3rd Mary Ann McCreight in 1851 or 1852.
Elizabeth, William's first wife was b. 1806 in NC and d. 15 Oct 1846 in
Tipton Co., TN where she is buried in the Salem Cemetery. William and
Elizabeth had the following children:
4 - 91 William Alexander Strong, b. 8 Mar 1828 in SC, d. 20 Aug 1829 in
Chester Co., SC where he is buried.
4 - 92 James Love Strong, b. Oct 1830 in SC, d. 16 Aug 1833 in Chester
Co., SC where he is buried.
4 - 93 Louisa Eloise Strong, b. 27 Dec 1832 in SC, d. 15 Jul 1884 in
Salem, Tipton Co, TN. She married Robert M. Banks on 12 Jan 1853 in
Tipton Co., TN.
4 - 94 Charles Strong, b. 1836 in SC. Married Margaret ? in 1858. Listed
in the 1860 TN, Tipton Co. census.
4 - 95 Jane E. Strong, b. 16 Oct 1839 in TN, b. 12 Nov. 1881 in Salem,
Tipton Co., TN where she is buried in the Salem Cemetery. She married
John D. Banks 14 Dec 1864 in Tipton Co., TN.
4 - 96 Margaret Strong, b. Nov 1841 in TN, b. 5 Jan 1842 in Tipton Co.,
TN where she is buried.
4 - 97 Martha L. Strong, b. 12 Dec 1843 in TN, d. 13 May 1887. Married
David James Strong Moffatt on 13 May 1867 in Tipton Co., TN. David
Moffatt's mother is Letitia Margaret Strong, who is a granddaughter of
James Strong, Jr., but I don't know who her father is.
4 - 98 Frances Strong, b. 25 Apr 1844 in TN, d. 5 Mar 1878 in Tipton Co.,
TN where she is buried. She married H. Osborne Banks on 26 Apr 1871
in Tipton Co., TN.
3 - 36 William James Strong married 2nd Lauretta L. Bernard on 16 Nov
1847 in Tipton Co. TN. She is the daughter of John and Lorna L. Bernard.
Lauretta was b. 1 Oct 1826 and d. 1 Mar 1850. They had no children.
3 - 36 William James Strong married 3rd Mary Ann McCreight in 1851/52
in TN. She was b. 1828 in SC. She is the daughter of John R. McCreight
and Margaret Thompson. After William died she remarried to John
McLaughlin on 20 Dec 1860. William and Mary Ann Strong had the
following child:
4 - 99 Robert F. Strong, b. 14 Nov 1853 in TN, d. 27 Sep 1854 in Tipton
Co., TN where he is buried in the Salem Cemetery.
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From: WHigleyjr@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: UNSUB
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 08:01:54 -0500 (EST)
UNSUB STRONG
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From: MERLINESK@aol.com
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Ages: Noah and Mary Strong
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:46:28 -0500 (EST)
Bob: I believe I'm now back among the living, tho' last week I wouldn't have
bet on it. I checked the 1830 Giles Co. TN census and found that wife of "N.
F. Strong" would have been born between 1801-1810. Since 1850 MO census
shows Mary, wife of Noah Strong to have been born approx. 1812, this (in my
opinion) would lie within the usual margin of error among census takers in
those days. Therefore, I think it's very likely that NF Strong and Noah
Strong are one and the same...especially since he was not in MO in 1830
census and was in Barry Co., in 1840---and "N.F.Strong was not in TN in 1840.
I will be out of town over Easter and have some CE courses the following 2
weekends. I don't know when Sue will be going to Springfield---she is going
to check the estate file of Noah in Websster co. to see if anything refers to
middle name or initial, if any, of Noah Strong.
I did run into a reference that may be of some interest to VA-KY Strong
researchers: "Strong Fam. of Breathitt & Owsley Counties, KY" J.C. Hurst (19
pgs) a hist. of the family of William and Jennie "Jane" (Callahan) Strong who
came to KY from VA ca. 1800. Info. on their 10 children and their families.
Some of them later moved to MO. Booklet was available from Geo. R.
Howerton, 2171 Ami Lane, Lexington, KY 40516. Price was $7.50 ppd. in Spring
of 1992 when announcement appeared in KY Ancestors.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: "HELP" via WWW
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:12:38 EST
GETTING HELP WITH MAISER MAIL LISTS VIA INTERNET WWW
Check out "the Listserver Help Page which was compiled by Dayna
Cohen McMullen. It is a comprehensive tutorial regarding the
proper use and "net"iquette of the mailing lists. I have found it to
be a very useful tool and point all of my new list members to it.
...it also contains a very useful section for information on starting
a list and some advice and tips for listowners. "
It can be found at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9640/index.html
The above contribution was provided by
Becky Smith Gallops
=========================================================
ACCESSING WWW VIA E-MAIL
"There is a way to collect Web Pages by e-mail. I do it quite
frequently, even though I have web access, because that way,
I have all of the link URLs that are included in the page. The
only part that doesn't get transmitted through e-mail is pictures.
To do it, send a message to either address below:
agora@info.lanic.utexas.edu
agora@picard.tec.mn.us
In the body of your note include one of these lines, replacing ""
with the actual URL specification.
send
rsend (to override your return address)
This will send you back the document you requested, with a list of all
the documents referenced within, so that you may make further requests."
The above was contributed by:
Ruth Hesterly
morgaine.ruth@juno.com
Online Mentor [for MAISER Lists]
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: More "HELP" Available from MAISER (Mail Server)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:23:11 EST
>From Larry V. Stephens, System Administrator,
Surname and Regional Mail LIsts available from
MAISER List Server :
There is a good file available from MAISER with tips on
using the Internet and lists for genealogy. Send the following
commands, beginning on Line 1, Column 1:
SEND GUIDELIN
EXIT
Address your message to:
MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Two Special Mail Lists; Revised Welcome & Guidelines
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:23:11 EST
There are two MAISER Lists that may be of interest to you.
RMGATE-HERALD is intended to be used to make announcements,
for example, to announce new Surname Lists. If you wish to
post the same announcement on several different MAISER Lists,
this is the place to post the announcement, instead. If you
subscribe to this list, you will receive all announcements.
RMGATE-QUERY is intended to be used to post genealogical
queries that need to go to more than two MAISER Lists. If
you subscribe to this Mail List, you will receive all such
queries.
To subscribe, send the commands
SUB RMGATE-HERALD
EXIT
or
SUB RMGATE-QUERY
EXIT
or to subscribe to both, send
SUB RMGATE-HERALD
SUB RMGATE-QUERY
EXIT
addressed to: MAISER@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
Remember to begin your commands on Column 1, Line 1.
=======================================================
The revision of the "Welcome and Guidelines for the STRONG
Mail List" is essentially completed. If you desire to obtain a
copy of this "final?" version, please request from me via a
message.
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
========================================================
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From: jrolff@juno.com (James R Rolff)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Hi
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:45:28 EST
Dear Bob and everybody;
I told you that I would like to go to the Virginia State
Library, because I wanted the ORIGINAL records of the 6 William Strong
Virginia Land Patent records that are in my book in abstract form. I
didn't have to go that far, because last week I went to Ft. Wayne, and
they had them on microfilm. I also got the 2 John Strong records that are
of special interest to you, and 2 Strang records. I'll send them all to
the group as soon as I find time to do it, as it will be a tough job. You
well know that I'll have the double problems of 17th century writing and
copies from microfilm. Also, I've been trying to send an email to Russell
Laird, but it keeps coming back to me, so I'm forwarding that to the
group so he'll get it that way, I hope. Bob, I was down in your
neighborhood a week ago. We had a bad ice storm up here, and our electric
was off from Thursday to Sunday, so we packed a suitcase and went down to
Athens, Ga. to see our daughter. JRolff@Juno.com
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From: jrolff@juno.com (James R Rolff)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Mail Delivery Subsystem : Returned ma
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:45:28 EST
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem
To: jrolff@juno.com
Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: 1stamet.com: host not
found)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:41:06 -0500
To: RLaird@1stamet.com
Subject: Mail Delivery Subsystem : Returned
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From: jrolff@juno.com (James R Rolff)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:40:04 EST
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:25:23 EST
I REALLY would like to see you great aunt Norene's history of Thomas Van
Buren Strong. In Greene Co., Tenn. I found him as Thomas V.B.Strong. I
didn't have a lot about him in my book, because I didn't know where he
went, but now I have plenty because I found a descendant that sent some,
and then I found more myself. His mother was a daughter of Thomas Sr. and
Elizabeth Bailey. I don't know where the Strong Family Histories got the
Mullins and Weems stuff, but those are connected families in that area,
so maybe they found something.
My address is: James R. Rolff, 152-3A Pine Knoll Dr., Battle Creek, Mi.
49014. The book is $35 postpaid. I need your address to snailmail the
Ellis thing. I got it out of my file and looked it over. It's 3 1/2 pages
with a lot of good stuff you'll like. I did the research because of
another Ellis marriage. I think you mentioned Jesse and Elizabeth Ellis,
and they are a big part of it. The descendant I found is Mr. W.H. Strong,
20 Tremont Trace, Wimberly, Texas 78676. Do you know him? He's from
Albert, son of John Granville Strong. If you don't know him I can send
what he sent me, and what I found later. Yes, I made a copy from your web
page.
Jim(jrolff@juno.com)
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From: cindy prince
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: MELISSA STRONG
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:23:16 -0800
Hi!
I am new to the Strong list. Am searching for Melissa STRONG. She is of
Choctaw descent. Married William January LOONEY 22 Jan. 1855. They went
to Oklahoma and/or Texas then returned to Missouri. They had nine
children:
Benjamin F. Looney-Republic, Mo. b: 31 Jan 1860Florence Looney-Walnut
Grove, Mo b: 1856 Anna Looney Truman Strong Looney Nathaniel Harrison
Looney George Looney Charlie Looney Willa (Malissa William) Looney
Addy/Addie?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I done this wrong please let
me know.
Thanks
cprince@thirdwave.net
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Melissa STRONG m. 1855 William J. LOONEY
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:20:00 EST
Welcome to the STRONG Mail List, Cindy:
I have done a little research in STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES,
VOLUME V, (c) 1996, Strong Family Association of America,
and have come up with a possible clue for you to pursue.
Let me present this as a descendancy chart first:
John Strong, Sr., of New Kent Co., VA
John Strong, Jr., of Hanover Co., VA
William Strong, Sr., of VA and GA
Johnson Strong, VA > GA > MO > Fayette Co., AL
William M. Strong, of Bankston, Fayette Co., AL
Green H. Strong, postmaster of Sheffield, AL, 1835 ff.
Melissa Strong, b. abt. 1841, probably in Sheffield,
Colbert County, AL
For further details about the descendancy, see the
article regarding "Johnson Strong of Hanover, Co., VA
and Fayette Co., AL", on pages 345-397 of the book
mentioned above.
There was a legend about Johnson Strong marrying
an Indian woman that, to my knowlege, has never
been documented. His wife's name has been reported
to be Mary Ann __?__.
Now, Colbert County is adjacent to Lawrence County,
AL. A little earlier in Lawrence County, Nathan Strong, Jr.,
married Nancy LOONEY. Following is Nathan's descent:
John Strong, Sr., New Kent Co., VA
John Strong, Jr., Hanover Co., VA
Nathaniel (Nathan) Strong, Sr., Goochland Co., VA to
Madison Co., AL
Nathan Strong, Jr., Goochland Co., VA to TN to
Lawrence Co., AL, to Clark Co., AR (now Dallas Co.)
Nancy Looney Strong was reported to have been born
in Hawkins Co., TN, in 1801. Nathan and Nancy were
married in 1821. At that time he was residing in
Alabama, having arrived about 1815 from Tennessee.
Although he received a land grant near where I
reside in Madison County, AL, I don't believe there
is any proof he ever resided in Madison County.
There is nothing definite here to go on but just a
hunch that the Melissa Strong above may be the one
for whom you are searching. She was about the
right age. She lived near where Looneys were
known to have lived.
There are Indian Mounds not far from Sheffied, AL,
around the Alabama and Mississippi state line. I
believe I saw some along the Natchez Trace in that
vicinity, but I do not know of what tribe of Indians.
I think I do remember from the War or 1812 pension
application of Mastin Strong that Creeks and Choctaws
were being fought in Alabama during that period:
1812-1815.
What is the basis for your statement that Melissa
Strong was of Choctaw heritage?
Since you have a marriage date, do you know
where the marriage was preformed: county and
state?
You will need to do more research in Colbert County,
Alabama, searching for clues: maybe a marriage
record there or in one of the neighboring counties
of Northwest Alabama. There is a set of many little
books called ALABAMA RECORDS that might be of
help if the collection is available in your local library.
Good luck in your search. Please keep the STRONG
Mail List informed of your progress.
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr., Manager, STRONG Mail List
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
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From: cindy prince
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: MELISSA STRONG
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:23:16 -0800
Hi!
I am new to the Strong List. Am searching for Melissa STRONG.
She is of Choctaw descent. Married William January LOONEY
22 Jan. 1855. They went to Oklahoma and/or Texas then
returned to Missouri. They had nine children:
Benjamin F. Looney-Republic, Mo. b: 31 Jan 1860
Florence Looney-Walnut Grove, Mo b: 1856
Anna Looney
Truman Strong Looney
Nathaniel Harrison Looney
George Looney
Charlie Looney
Willa (Malissa William) Looney
Addy/Addie?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I done this wrong
please let me know.
Thanks
cprince@thirdwave.net
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: Ann STANLEY m. 1753 [Martin] STRONG
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:45:38 EST
MINUTES OF CEDAR CREEK MONTHLY MEETING
[later Richmond MM], HANOVER COUNTY, VA:
1752, 10mo, 14day. [about 25 JAN 1753, New Style]
"Ann Stanley" signed as a witness to the marriage of
Margery Stanley, daughter of Thomas Stanley, to
Gideon Ellyson at the Cedar Creek Meeting House.
1753, 9mo, 8day. [about 19 DEC 1753, New Style]
"John Sanders and Benj. Harris are appointed to [Treat?]
with Ann the daughter of Jon. Stanley in relation to her
marrying out and to make report to our next Monthly Meeting."
1753, 12mo, 8day. [about 19 MAR 1754, New Style]
"The Friends appointed to [counsel?] with Anne the daughter
of Jn. Stanley give out that the said Anne contrary to
Friends advice have of from Friends. [sic] Therefore it's
ordered that a Testification be drawn up against her and
brought to our next Monthly Meeting."
1754, 2mo., 9day. [about 20 MAY 1754, New Style]
"At which meeting was Read and Signed a Testification
against...Ann Strong daughter of Jon. Stanley and are
as followeth, viz., ..."
"Whereas Anne Strong daughter of Jon. Stanley of Hanover
County who was taken under the leave of our meetg. with
her father's family and hath contrary to Friends advice
married out from Friends [that?] we think it our duty
therefore to disowne the sd. Ann from being a member of
our Society until it shall please almighty God of his
greate mercy to bring her to true Repentance and
Reconciliation for her out goings which may it please
him so to do is the desire of our hearts.
Signed in our meeting the 9th of 2nd mo. 1754 by
Henry Terrell, Strangeman Hutchings, Wm. Haley,
Charles Moorman, Wm. Stanley, Thos. Cheadle, Jon.
Sanders, Benj. Harris"
====================
Ann Stanley was a legal adult by JAN 1753 [NS], so
was likely born by 1732 [NS].
>From the above records it appears that Ann Stanley
married a Mr. Strong before 19 DEC 1753 [NS]. [To
marry without her parents' consent, she had to be a
legal adult, of age 21 or over.]
In her 1931 genealogy of VIRGINIA QUAKER STANLEYS
AND DESCENDANTS, Celeste Terrell Barnhill reported
that Ann Stanley married Martin Strong. No documentation
was provided. The source is presumed to have been
Stanley family records.
The Quaker records, unfortunately, did not identify the
proper name of the husband of Mrs. Ann(e) Stanley Strong.
Through a process of elimination, her husband has been
identified as Martin Strong, the eldest, of Hanover County.
[There were three Martin Strongs in Hanover County records.]
Martin Strong was a son of John Strong [Jr.], of St. Martin's
Parish, which included western Hanover County. John's
widow and Martin's mother was likely the Mary Strong who
attended the Quaker marriages of two of Ann Stanley Strong's
siblings. Martin had the following brothers: William m.
Frances Johnson; John had a wife, Elizabeth [possibly
Turnbull]; Nathan m. Catherine Callichan/Callahan; Sherwood
[1st] died 1779 or earlier without children to inherit his land
grant rights so he probably did not marry. So only Martin
Strong is left as the likely husband of Ann(e) Stanley
Strong and father of her children.
Ann(e) Strong relocated to Goochland County, VA, about
1781, as in that year Ann(e) gave permission for a daughter,
under the age of 21, to marry. By implication, Martin
Strong died by 1781, when Ann(e) was obviously a widow.
Ann(e)'s relocation was probably prompted by the death of
her husband. She joined Mary Strong [mother-in-law?], John
Strong, and Nathan Strong [brothers-in-law], who were
residing on the Lickinghole Creek in Goochland County, VA.
Martha Strong Williams [probable sister-in-law] also
resided in this neighborhood before her death.
The children of Ann(e) Stanley Strong have been identified
through her tax records, her deed of lease, plus marriage
records of her children. No will and no estate settlement
have been found for either Martin Strong or for Ann(e)
Stanley Strong.
One document, in addition to the above marriage certificate,
has been found which contained her signature. She signed
"Ann" Strong. In most of her civil records in Goochland
County, her name was spelled "Anne" Strong.
My descent from Ann Stanley Strong is through her son,
Sherwood Strong, III. [Sherwood Strong, II, was a son of
William and Frances (Johnson) Strong.]
Ann Stanley m. [Martin] Strong
Sherwood Strong m. Mary Tibbs [to TN]
Isham S. Strong m. Susannah Dunbar [to TX]
G. Wyatt Strong m. "Nicey" Hanks
George W. Strong [Jr.] m. M. Olive Green
Robert T. ("R.T.") Strong m. L. Izora Powell [to LA]
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong m. Velma Gossage [to AL]
Others on the Strong Mail List who share descent from
Ann Stanley Strong > Sherwood Strong > Isham S. Strong
are GeLee Corley Hendrix, Matthew Strong, and Agnes
Duncan Koch.
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THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF MRS. ANN(E) STANLEY STRONG,
(PROBABLE WIDOW OF MARTIN STRONG)
OF
GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA
01. Ann(e) STANLEY, of Society of Friends'("Quaker") Meeting
House, Cedar Creek, western Hanover County, Virginia
[St. Martin's Parish of the Church of England]
Father: John Stanley, "the eldest" of Cedar Creek
Mother: Not identified
b 1732 or earlier, St. Paul's / St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d Probably 1804 or later in Goochland Co., VA, OR
Possibly after 1810, Buckingham Co., VA (See Note 1)
m 1753 (New Style), western Hanover Co., VA
[probably Martin, the eldest] STRONG (See Note 2),
son of John Strong [Jr.], of St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, VA
b before 1732
d About 1780/1, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
02. Nancy STRONG
b About 1764, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1816, probably Goochland County, Virginia
m(1) William CARRELL, 17 SEP 1781, Goochland Co., VA
b Before 1751
d Before SEP 1797, Goochland Co., Virginia
m(2) Bartholomew (Bartlett) TURNER, JAN 1799,
Goochland County, Virginia
b Before 1774
d Before 17 JUN 1799, Goochland Co., VA
m(3) Charles JOHNSON [III], 1816, Goochland Co., VA
b Before 1748?
d After 1816, Goochland Co., VA
* 03. Sherwood STRONG
b 1767 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d 1830 - 1836, Rutherford County, Tennessee
m Mary TIBBS, 10 MAR 1791, Goochland County, VA
b About 1774
d Buried 3 APR 1865, Nashville City Cemetery,
Davidson County, Tennessee
04. Mastin STRONG
b About 1774, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d 31 JAN 1866, Randolph (now Cleburne) County, AL
m(1) Mary EAST, 26 DEC 1799, Goochland County, VA
b Before 1783
d Before 1806, Goochland or Buckingham County,
Virginia
m(2) Rebecca McCORMACK (McCORMIC), 1803 - 1806,
Buckingham County, Virginia
b 1786 - 1788, probably Buckingham Co., VA
d After 1873, Calhoun or Randolph County, AL
05. John STRONG
b 1775 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1840, probably Franklin County, Alabama
m Jemima __?__, about 1800, probably Buckingham
County, VA
b
d After 1840, probably Franklin Co., Alabama
06. Mary STRONG
b After 1773, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d
m James LOGAN, 15 DEC 1794, Goochland Co., Virginia
christened 27 APR 1768, Goochland County, Virginia
d
07. Thomas STRONG
b About 1776, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1850, probably Gibson County, Tennessee
m Milly BLACKMON (or BLACKMORE), 19 FEB 1811,
Davidson County, Tennessee
b 1785 - 1795, Tennessee
d After 1850, probably Gibson County, TN
08. Possibly an unidentified son
b Probably before 1765
d Before 1790
m Rachel __?__, probably before 1780 (See Note 3)
b
d After 1790, place unknown
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1. In 1810, John Strong, son of Mrs. Ann(e) Stanley Strong,
was enumerated on the census of Buckingham County, VA.
In his home was an elderly woman.
2. There was a second Martin Strong, whose parents resided in
Cumberland County, VA, from 1757 or earlier until about 1765,
when the family relocated to the same neighborhood in St.
Martin's Parish, Hanover County, where the family of John
Strong, Jr., had resided. This second, younger, Martin
Strong family, which included 13 children, was the only
Strong family that remained in Hanover County, VA, after
1781. This second Martin Strong ["Sr." in Hanover County
before 1800], died in Hanover County after 1830.
3. [Mrs.?] Rachel Strong had a son, James Strong, a minor in
1790, who was "bound out" as an apprentice in Goochland
County, VA. Records of a James Strong are found in Gibson
County, TN, about the time that 07. Thomas Strong relocated
there, suggesting the two are possibly related.
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From: rtstrongjr@juno.com (Robert T. Strong)
To: "Strong Family genealogy list"
Subject: STRONG: ENG?, abt 1660 > VA > TN > TX, 1923
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:21:26 EST
FIVE GENERATIONS OF MY STRONG ANCESTORS
WHO RESIDED IN VIRGINIA, TENNESSEE, AND TEXAS
Prepared by:
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
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FIRST GENERATION
THE FAMILY OF 1. JOHN STRONG OF
(ST. PETER'S PARISH)
NEW KENT COUNTY, VIRGINIA
1. John STRONG (probably immigrated to Virginia before 1680)
b Before 1667 (Probably before 1661, probably in England)
d After 1703, probably in St. Paul's Parish, New Kent
County, VA
m Unknown, before 1698. She died after 1703. See note.
* 02. John STRONG
christened 1698, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
03. William STRONG
christened 1701, St, Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
04. George STRONG
christened 1703, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
NOTE: The records of this family end in 1704, when St. Paul's
Parish was created out of St. Peter's Parish. The vital records
of St. Paul's Parish were not preserved, therefore there is no
record of the deaths of John Strong, Sr., or of his wife, and no
record of any additional children who may have been born
after 1703. No other Strong males of this generation have been
found in the immediate vicinity, however. No records that are
clearly those of 04. George Strong have been found.
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SECOND GENERATION
THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF 2. JOHN STRONG (JR.)
OF
(ST. MARTIN'S PARISH)
WESTERN HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA
02. John STRONG [Jr.]
b About 1698, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., VA
d Unknown. Before September, 1751. Probably St. Martin's
Parish, Hanover County, VA
m [Probably Mary] __?__. Before 1730. Prob. Hanover Co., VA.
b Before 1720. Probably New Kent County, VA.
d Mary Strong d. 1787 or later, probably in St. James
Northam Parish, Goochland County, Virginia
* 05. Martin STRONG [1st] (See Chapter Note 1.)
b Before 1732. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d Before 1781. Probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover Co., VA
m Anne STANLEY, about 1753, probably St.
Martin's Parish, Hanover Co., VA
b Before 1733, St. Martin's Parish, Hanover Co., VA
d Probably 1804 or later, Goochland Co., VA
(Possibly after 1810, Buckingham County, VA.)
06. Sherwood STRONG [1st]
b About 1733. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1763, before 1779 (probably before
1772). Probably Hanover Co., VA
m Probably did not marry. He had no wife or
children who survived in 1779 to inherit his
military land grant rights.
07. John STRONG
b Before 1736. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d 1815, Oglethorpe Co., GA
m Elizabeth __?__, probably about 1760 - 1762,
probably Hanover County, VA
b Unknown. Probably before 1740.
d Before 1803, Clarke Co., GA
08. William STRONG [Sr.]
b Before 1738. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d 1816, Clarke Co., GA
m Frances JOHNSON, before 1759. Probably St.
Martin's Parish, Hanover Co., VA
b About 1735 - 1740, location unknown
(probably Hanover Co., VA)
d 1827, Clarke Co., GA
09. Elizabeth STRONG
b Probably before 1735, probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1751, probably Hanover Co., VA
m Unknown. No records of her have been
found after 1751. Marriage records of Hanover
county before Civil War were not preserved.
PROBABLE CHILDREN
10. Martha STRONG
b Before 1750, location unknown (probably Hanover
Co., VA)
d Before 1777, Goochland Co., VA
m Eleazarius (Eleazer or Azarius) WILLIAMS,
before 1767, location unknown (probably Hanover
Co., VA)
b 1746 or earlier.
d 1782 or earlier. (Will recorded 1789.)
Goochland Co., VA
m(2) Frances __?__
b Unknown
d About 1797, Goochland Co., VA
11. Nathaniel (Nathan) STRONG [Sr.]
b About 1744, probably Hanover Co., VA
d 1823, Madison Co., AL
m Catherine "CALLICHAN" (CALLAHAN), about 1774,
probably Louisa or Hanover Co., VA
b Before 1760, location unknown. Possibly
Louisa or Hanover Co., VA.
d After 1823, Madison Co., AL
POSSIBLE CHILDREN
12. "Matt" (Matthew?) [STRONG?]
b Before 1732. Probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1751. Probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover Co., VA
m Unknown. (No known heirs.)
NOTE: It is not certain that "Matt" was a Strong. In 1751
he made purchases that were charged to the account of
the estate of John Strong, deceased, as did (Mrs.?) Sarah
Blalock. No records of either have been found after 1751.
13. Sarah (STRONG?)
b Before 1735, probably Hanover Co., VA
d After 1752
m Before 1751, _____ BLALOCK
b Before 1735
d Unknown
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THIRD GENERATION
THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF MRS. ANNE STANLEY STRONG,
(PROBABLE WIDOW OF 5. MARTIN STRONG)
OF
GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA
05. Martin STRONG [1st] (See Note 1.)
b before 1732
d About 1780/1. Probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
m Anne STANLEY, 1753, St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
b Before 1733, St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d Probably 1804 or later in Goochland Co., VA
Possibly after 1810, Buckingham Co., VA
12. Nancy4 STRONG
b About 1764, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1816, probably Goochland County, Virginia
m(1) William CARRELL, 17 SEP 1781, Goochland Co., VA
b Before 1751
d Before SEP 1797, Goochland Co., Virginia
m(2) Bartholomew (Bartlett) TURNER, JAN 1799,
Goochland County, Virginia
b Before 1774
d Before 17 JUN 1799, Goochland Co., VA
m(3) Charles JOHNSON [III], 1816, Goochland Co., VA
b Before 1748?
d After 1816, Goochland Co., VA
* 13. Sherwood STRONG
b 1767 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d 1830 - 1836, Rutherford County, Tennessee
m Mary TIBBS, 10 MAR 1791, Goochland County, VA
b About 1774
d Buried 3 APR 1865, Nashville City Cemetery,
Davidson County, Tennessee
14. Mastin STRONG
b About 1774, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d 31 JAN 1866, Randolph (now Cleburne) County, AL
m(1) Mary EAST, 26 DEC 1799, Goochland County, VA
b Before 1783
d Before 1806, Goochland or Buckingham
County, Virginia
m(2) Rebecca McCORMACK (McCORMIC), 1803 - 1806,
Buckingham County, Virginia
b 1786 - 1788, probably Buckingham Co., VA
d After 1873, Calhoun or Randolph County, AL
15. John STRONG
b 1775 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1840, probably Franklin County, Alabama
m Jemima __?__, about 1800, probably Buckingham
County, VA
b
d After 1840, probably Franklin Co., Alabama
16. Mary STRONG
b After 1773, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d
m James LOGAN, 15 DEC 1794, Goochland Co., Virginia
christened 27 APR 1768, St. James Northam Parish,
Goochland County, Virginia
d
17. Thomas STRONG
b About 1776, probably St. Martin's Parish,
Hanover County, Virginia
d After 1850, probably Gibson County, Tennessee
m Milly BLACKMON (or BLACKMORE), 19 FEB 1811,
Davidson County, Tennessee
b 1785 - 1795, Tennessee
d After 1850, probably Gibson County, TN
18. Possibly an unidentified son
b Probably before 1765
d Before 1790
m Rachel __?__, probably before 1780 (See Note 2.)
b
d After 1790
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FOURTH GENERATION
THE RECONSTRUCTED FAMILY OF 15. SHERWOOD STRONG
OF
GOOCHLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA
AND
SUMNER, DAVIDSON, AND RUTHERFORD COUNTIES, TENNESSEE
15. Sherwood STRONG
b 1767 or earlier, probably St. Martin's Parish, Hanover
County, Virginia
d 1830 - 1836, Rutherford County, Tennessee
m Mary TIBBS, 10 MAR 1791, Goochland County, Virginia
b About 1772 or 1773, Virginia
d Buried 3 APR 1865, Nashville City Cemetery,
Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee
DEFINITE CHILDREN
21. Polly (probably Mary, Jr.) STRONG
b 1792-1800, probably Goochland Co., VA.
d before 1820?, probably Davidson County or
Rutherford County, Tennessee
m John TENNISON, 21 MAY 1816, Davidson Co., TN.
b Before 1800. Unknown location.
d Unknown. Before 1820?, probably Davidson County
or Rutherford County, Tennessee
22. Thomas STRONG
b 1793-1797, Goochland County, Virginia
d After 1860, probably Davidson or Wilson Co., TN.
m Rhoda SHANE, 22 DEC 1819, Davidson Co., TN.
b 1794-1804, Davidson County, Tennessee
d After 1870, probably Wilson Co., TN.
PROBABLE CHILDREN
23. Sally (probably Sarah) STRONG
b 1792-1800, probably Goochland Co., VA.
d 1842-1850, probably Davidson Co., TN.
m Jacob EARHART (EARHEART), 10 APR 1816,
Davidson County, Tennessee
b 1785, North Carolina
d After 1850, probably Davidson County, Tennessee.
24. William STRONG
b 1802-1804, probably Goochland Co., VA.,
but possibly TN
d 13-15 FEB 1842, Crawford County, Missouri
m Anne BINKLEY, 27 APR 1823, Davidson Co., TN.
b 1800-1809, Tennessee
d 1840-1850?, probably Crawford Co., MO.
25. Nancy STRONG
b 1801-1809, Virginia or Tennessee
d After 1860, Shelby Co., TN.
m(1) Joshua STARKEY, 8 MAY 1825, Davidson Co., TN.
b 1800-1807, VA.
d 11 May 1847, Shelby Co., TN.
m(2) Edwin CORBETT, 3 JUL 1849, Shelby Co., TN.
b
d
* 26. Isham S. STRONG
b 10 MAR 1798-1804, probably Goochland Co., VA.
d 25 FEB 1889, Hurstown Community, Shelby Co., TX.
m Susannah (Susan) DUNBAR, JUL 1822, Davidson Co., TN
b About 1804, possibly Montgomery County?, Tennessee
d FEB 1870, Patroon, Shelby County, Texas
27. [Julia? or Judith?) STRONG
b 1792-1795. Unknown location.
d After 1850, probably Davidson County, Tennessee
m John BAKER, 14 AUG 1811, Sumner County, Tennessee
b 1781-1790. Unknown location.
d 1840-1850, probably Davidson County, Tennessee
POSSIBLE CHILD
28. Lyman J. STRONG
b About 1806. Unknown location.
d After 1830. Unknown location; possibly Shelby County,
Tennessee, before 1850.
m Martha H. GREEN, 8 SEP 1828, Sumner County, TN.
b 1811-1815. Unknown location.
d After 1830. Unknown location; possibly Shelby
County, Tennessee, before 1850.
NOTE: As yet it has been impossible to either prove or disprove
that Lyman J. Strong was a son of Sherwood Strong.
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FIFTH GENERATION
THE FAMILY OF 26. ISHAM S. STRONG
OF
DAVIDSON CONUTY, TENNESSEE
AND
SHELBY COUNTY, TEXAS
26. Isham S. STRONG
b 10 FEB 1798-1804, probably Goochland County, VA.
d 25 FEB 1889, Hurstown Community, Shelby Co., TX.
bur Unknown. Possibly Rather Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX.
m Susannah (Susan) DUNBAR, JUL 1822, Davidson County,
Tennessee
b About 1804, possibly Montgomery County?, TN.
d FEB 1870, Patroon Post Office, Shelby County, Texas
bur Unknown. Possibly Rather Cemetery, Shelby Co.
29. Thomas Jefferson STRONG
b 7 JAN 1824, Davidson County, Tennessee
d 19 MAY 1907, Sardis Community, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby County, Texas
m(1) Eliza Jane BERRY, 25 OCT 1848, San Augustine County,
Texas
b About 1837, Possibly Virginia or Missouri
d After 1860, probably Newton County, Texas
bur Unknown
m(2) Drucilla (UNKNOWN), before 1870, Texas
b 24 FEB 1846, Georgia
d 13 JAN 1887, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX.
m(3) Mrs. Amy D. (UNKNOWN) DURR, 6 OCT 1887, Shelby County,
Texas
b Unknown
d Before 1894? Shelby Co., TX.?
m(4) Missouri HANEY, 29 APR 1894, Shelby Co., TX.
b SEP 1859, Shelby County, Texas
d 12 MAR 1929, Center, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX. (No marker.)
30. Elizabeth STRONG
b DEC 1828, Davidson County, Tennessee
d 11 FEB 1923, San Augustine or Sabine Co., TX.
bur Gravel Hill, Sabine Co., TX
m(1) Guilford Dickson REYNOLDS, before 1863
(possibly before 1856), probably Shelby Co., TX.
b About 1835, Arkansas
d About 1898, Shelby Co., TX.
m(2) W. D. DUNCAN, 13 MAY 1898 (license), Shelby Co., TX
b About 1825, Alabama
d Unknown (possibly before 1900)
31. (Unknown female) STRONG
b 1830-1835, probably Davidson County, Tennessee
d After 1840, probably Arkansas or Texas
m Probably never married
NOTE: There was an unidentified female in the household
of Isham Strong in Hempstead Co., AR, in 1840.
32. Alexander H. STRONG
b 7 JUL 1836, Davidson County, Tennessee
d JUL 1869, Shelby County, Texas
bur Unkown. Possibly Rather Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX
m Mrs. Matilda (COOK) Swanzy
b 1929-1830, Tennessee
d 1913, Hawthorne, Shelby Co., TX.
m(1) Robert P. SWANZY
m(3) (Uncertain) STUBBLEFIELD
m(4) David H. WATKINS
33. Emily C. STRONG
b 19 JAN 1838, Davidson County, Tennessee
d After 1880, Erath County, Texas
m Perry Cornelius CORBELL, 19 SEP 1860,
Shelby or Sabine County, Texas
b 28 SEP 1828, Mississippi
d 13 APR 1896, Erath County, Texas
m(1) 19 DEC 1848, Frances Elizabeth Ann MASON
34. George Wyatt STRONG, Sr. (aka Wyatt STRONG)
b About 1839, unknown county, Mississippi
d After 7 APR 1867, Shelby County?, Texas
bur Unknown. Possibly Rather Cemetery, Shelby Co., TX
m Lanicia ("Nicey" or "Nicie") HANKS
b About 1847, Arkansas
d 1872-1880, Shelby County, Texas
m(2) Robert C. TRIBBLE, before 1870,
probably Shelby County, Texas
b About 1848, Patroon, Shelby Co.,TX.
d Before 1880, Shelby Co., TX.
35. John STRONG
b About 1842, Shelby County, Texas
d 1868, Shelby County, Texas
m Margaret HANKS, about 1866, Shelby Co., TX.
b About 1845-1846, Arkansas
d 28 NOV 1908, Shelby County, Texas
bur Strong Cemetery, Shelby County, Texas
m(2) Ambrose H. ("Amps") BUCKLEY
36. Mary F. STRONG
b 24 DEC 1846, Shelby County, Texas
d 21 NOV 1910 (or 1911), San Augustine
or Shelby County, Texas
bur Holly Springs Cemetery, Shelby County, Texas
m John William GOING
b 5 OCT 1837-1840, Copiah Co., Mississippi
d 5 APR 1901, Garrison Post Office,
Nacogdoches Co., TX.
bur Cold Springs Baptist Church Cemetery,
Libby Community, Garrison, Texas (no monument)
36. [Iron, Aaron, or Oren?] STRONG (See Note 3.)
b About 1851, Shelby County, Texas
d After 1860, before 1872 (probably before 1870),
probably Shelby County, Texas
m Probably did not marry
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1. There was a another Martin Strong (2nd) whose parents resided in
Cumberland County, VA, from 1757 or earlier until about 1765, when
the family relocated to the same neighborhood in St. Martin's
Parish, Hanover County, where the family of 2. John Strong had
resided and where John Stanley, father of Ann Stanley Strong,
resided. This second, younger, Strong family, which Martin
Strong (2nd) and his 12 siblings, was the only Strong family that
remained in Hanover County, VA, after 1781. This Martin Strong,
who was called Martin Strong, Sr., on a 1790s tax list, died in
Hanover County, VA, after 1830. By implication, there was a
Martin Strong (3rd) in Hanover County in the 1790s.
2. Mrs. Rachel Strong had a son, James Strong, a minor in 1790, who
was "bound out" as an apprentice in Goochland County, VA.
Records of a James Strong are found in Gibson County, TN, about
the time that 17. Thomas Strong relocated there, suggesting the
two are possibly related.
3. The given name of this son of Isham S. Strong is uncertain. The
name could be "Iroon" or "Irion" or "Orrin", for example. The
only known record of this son is the 1850 census of Shelby
County, Texas. I read the entry as "Iron", which was probably a
mis-spelling.
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Prepared by:
Robert T. ("Bob") Strong, Jr.
119 Mystic Way, Monrovia Comm., Madison, AL 35758-7113
(c) 1997. Permission granted to copy for personal use only.
Revised 28 MAR 1997
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