From Usenet, March 31, 1992 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please read the section below regarding the formatting of entries you might send to this list to be included. I will NO LONGER accept mis-formatted entries. Too much work. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Great Usenet Just-Say-NO-to-PISS-TESTs Project This is the Great Usenet Piss Test Registry Project Monthly Posting. You will find two lists in this postings. The first is a list of companies that have PISS or other Human Quality test programs as reported by first person experience. The second list is a list of companies that are known to have public policies AGAINST the invasion of privacy and the violation of Constitutional Protection that Human Quality tests constitute. If you have FIRST PERSON experience (no rumors) with a company not on these lists, please send a note, in the format of a record in the tables below, to the following address: piss@dixie.com <<<--- preferred, mailers like this domain piss@rsiatl.uucp (old method) emory!dixie.com!piss uunet!dixie.com!piss Your identity will be protected and all identifying data will be deleted from DIXIE as soon as the list is updated. I will attempt to acknowledge your message but with mailers being what they are, if you don't get an acknowledge, please send a duplicate. ***** Please NOTE: If you send information on a company, please try to fill in all fields in my form. Particularly the "recourse" field. Many people are forced to choose between the lesser of 2 evils and knowing what the company does beyond forcing the piss act is important. If you would like to obtain a copy of this list at intervals other than the first of the month, an automatic server will ship you a copy. Simply send mail to the above addresses and set the Subject: line to "send". Any text in the message body is dropped. Example: Subject: Send list The list will be returned to you via your From: address. Tests other than Piss tests should also be reported to this list. For example, if your company has a mandatory medical test and requires the right to release the results to insurance companies or others, you should send a note. (I'm sorry, Mr. Smith. Your life insurance policy has been disapproved. Your company medical test showed too much chlorestrol and too high blood pressure.) **** Statement of Purpose **** This list exists as a one man crusade (supported by a cast of thousands) against the current Government sponsored terrorism sometimes called the Drug War, and the resultant destruction of the Constitution. This crusade is about Constitutional protections, individual privacy and freedom. It is NOT an advocacy of the abuse of any mind-altering substance. It is a strong plea to consider the data contained herein when making purchasing or employment decisions. Note: I try to keep this list with the columns aligned with spaces Occasionally, however, tabs creep in. This list is formatted with tabstops set to 4. To properly view the list in vi, execute the command :set tabstop=4. To properly print this file, route it through pr(1) with the command line pr -e4 -o4 piss.list |lp for Sys V. For BSD or other systems, you're on your own :-) ****************************************************************************** **************************** The Bad List ************************************ ****************** Companies that violate your rights. *********************** ****************************************************************************** Company Test When Recourse Other Info Date Post Date ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3M 1 1,3 1 - 03/05/92 03/05/92 Aetna Life & 1 1 2 - 04/01/90 11/14/90 Casualty ARGOSystems 1 1 6,9 - 04/05/91 05/21/91 ARCO Oil and [20] Gas Co. 1,2,5 1,4 6,9 - 01/03/92 01/03/92 ARCO Exploration & Production [20] Advanced Data 1 1 6,9 - 01/06/92 01/06/92 Processing (ADP) Technology 1,2,5 1,4 6,9 - 01/03/92 01/03/92 AT&T Technologies, 1 1 - - 12/09/90 12/09/90 Burlington, NC AT&T Paradyne 1 [4] 1 6,7,9 3 06/05/91 06/05/91 AT&T Network Cable 1 1 - - 07/04/91 07/04/91 Systems, Omaha Bath Iron Works 1 1,3 1 - 11/14/90 11/14/90 BDM, Huntsville AL 1 1 6,9 - 12/15/91 01/06/92 Bellcore 5 1 - - 06/01/91 06/01/91 Biorad 1 1,3 - - 11/15/90 11/15/90 Boeing 1 1 - 3 10/01/90 11/15/90 Chem. Waste Mgmt 1,6 1,3 - - 11/19/90 11/19/90 Chevron 1 1 9 1,5 05/01/87 08/16/91 Comdisco 1 1 9 - 12/04/90 12/04/90 (distributor) Compaq 1 1 - - 11/19/90 12/07/90 Computer Science 1 1 - - 05/01/91 05/01/91 Corp. Control Data Corp 1 1,6 - - 11/14/90 11/14/90 Control Data Corp. Gov't Systems: 1,5 5 9 - 12/09/91 12/09/91 CostCo 1 [12] 1,2 - - 11/17/90 11/17/90 Coast Fed Sav bank 1 1 9 - 12/04/90 12/04/90 Dell Computer Corp 1,4 1,2,5 1,6,9 1,5 07/01/91 07/02/91 Dial-A-Truck Svcs 1 1,3 6,9 - 09/08/91 09/08/91 Portland Oregon Dow Chemical Co 1,2,4,5 1,2,3,4 1,4,6,9 1,3 06/1/91 12/20/91 Dominoe's Pizza 1 2,3 1 - 08/20/91 12/28/91 Donnelley Publish. 1 1 - - 11/02/90 12/07/90 Duke University 4,2,5 3,4 4 3 11/13/90 11/14/90 EDS 1,5 1,2 2 - 11/14/90 11/14/90 Echlin 1 1 6,9 1 01/02/92 03/09/92 Eldec 1 1 9 - 08/01/98 05/21/91 Epson 1 1 - - 03/29/92 03/29/92 Ericcson-GE Mobile 1,5 1 - - 11/14/90 11/14/90 Communications E-Systems 1 1,10 6,9 3 04/05/91 05/21/91 Greenville, TX E-Systems 6,10 2,3,4 - - 04/05/91 05/21/91 all facilities Fibercom 1 1,3 4,6,9 - 09/05/91 09/08/91 Fischer Controls, Marshalltown, IA 1 1 6,9 - 12/15/91 01/06/92 Ford Motor Co 1 [2] 1,2? - - 11/10/90 11/13/90 GE 1 1 6,7,9 - 12/09/91 12/09/91 GE Consulting Services & GE Aerospace Grumman 1,5 1 - - 11/19/90 11/19/90 GTE 1 1 6 - 11/11/90 11/11/90 GTRI 1 [3] 1 - 4 07/01/90 11/13/90 General Dynamics 1 1,2,34 - - 11/13/90 11/13/90 General Electric 1 1 - 1 05/01/91 05/01/91 Geometric Results 1 [2] 1,2? - - 11/10/90 11/13/90 Georgia Tech 1 5 - - 11/13/90 11/13/90 Glasrock Home 1 1,3 6,9 - 9/06/91 09/08/91 Health Care Grass Valley Group 1 1 6 - 12/01/90 12/12/91 Harrah' Lake Tahoe 1 1,2 - - 11/02/90 11/13/90 Hewlett Packard 1 [21] 1 9 - 01/11/92 01/11/92 HFS Inc. 1 1 3 - 12/05/91 12/05/91 formerly Honeywell Federal Systems Inc Honeywell, Phoenix, AZ 1 1 6,9 - 12/15/91 01/06/92 Home Depot 1,5 1,2,3,6 2,6,9 - 12/15/92 01/06/92 Hughs Aircraft 1 1 - 5 11/13/90 11/13/90 IBM 1,5 1 2 - 11/14/90 11/14/90 Intel 1 [9] 1,6 3 [10] - 11/13/90 11/13/90 Jubitz Truck Stops 1 1,3 6,9 - 09/08/91 09/08/91 Portland Oregon Kodak 1,5 1,2 - - 03/01/88 11/14/90 Leading Technology 1 1 - - 08/25/91 09/08/91 Lockheed Missiles 1,5 1 6,7,9 - 02/07/92 02/07/92 & Space Co. Marathon Oil 1,2,5 1 6,9 - 07/01/88 09/08/91 Martin Marietta IS Englewood CO 1,4 1 9 - 08/16/91 08/16/91 Mead Corp. 1,5,6 1 - - 11/14/90 11/14/90 Measurex Corp. 1 1 6,9 - 02/18/92 03/10/92 Met. Life 1,5 1 - - 01/01/88 11/18/90 Mirror Systems (div of Times-Mirror) 1 1 6,9 - 05/01/88 08/16/91 Mobil Oil 1 1,2 - - 11/20/90 11/20/90 Morgan,Stanley,& Co 1 1 2 - 11/14/90 11/14/90 Motorola 1,5 1,2,3 4,8 1 11/10/90 11/13/90 NBC 1,5 1 6,9 - 05/01/91 05/01/91 National Interstate 1,6 1 6,9 - 12/09/91 12/09/91 Insurance Navy [7] 1,5,6 1,2,3 1,4,6 3 11/14/90 11/14/90 New Technology, Inc (Huntsville AL): 1 1 6,9 - 12/09/91 12/09/91 NCR Corp. 1 1 - - 12/01/89 11/14/90 AGS/Nynex 1 1 9 - 06/17/91 06/17/91 NYNEX/DPI [23] 1,2,5 1,3,6 9 1 03/23/92 03/23/92 Ogden-Erc 1 1,2 - - 11/13/90 11/13/90 Pacific Gas & 1 1 6,9 - 09/01/91 09/08/91 Electric (PGE) Pacific Bell 1 1,3 6,9 - 05/21/91 05/21/91 Plantronics 1,5 1,3,4 6,9 - 08/31/91 09/08/91 Portland General 1 1,2 6 - 06/01/91 09/08/91 Plexus Software 1 1 6 - 06/07/91 06/07/91 Proctor and Gamble 1 1 6 3 05/21/91 05/21/91 Raytheon 1 1 6,9 - 08/01/91 01/06/92 SAIC 1 1 2 - 08/01/91 08/16/91 (Science Applications International Corp) Sandia Nat'l Labs 1 1,3,4 4,6,7 - 11/01/91 12/09/91 Albuquerque, NM Salomon Bros. 1 1 ? - 11/01/91 12/09/91 Schlumberger Well 1,5 1 6 - 07/08/91 07/25/91 Services SmithKline Beecham 1 1 6 - 07/01/91 07/01/91 Sony 1 1,3 - - 11/19/90 11/19/90 Square D 1 [11] 1 - - 11/17/90 11/17/90 SRI International 1 3 5 - 07/16/91 07/25/91 State Farm 1,5 1 6,9 - 12/09/91 12/09/91 StorageTek 1 [1] 1,3 - 3 11/10/90 11/13/90 Sun 10 [17] 1 - - 12/05/91 12/09/91 Sundstrand Data 1 1,3 - - 11/17/90 11/17/90 Control SW Bell-Metromedia 1 1 - - 05/31/91 05/31/91 Paging Sykes Enterprises Inc. (SEI) Charlotte 1,5 1 6,9 - 12/09/91 12/09/91 Tellabs 1 1 - 5 11/16/90 12/07/90 Texas Instruments 1 [6] 2 1 - 05/01/90 11/14/90 Times-Mirror 1 [14] 1 1,6,7 - 11/20/90 11/20/90 Topaz 1 [11] 1 - - 11/17/90 11/17/90 Xerox 1 1,2 - - 11/10/90 11/13/90 Unisys 1,5 1,2 - - 11/14/90 11/14/90 United Airlines 1 1 - - 11/18/90 11/18/90 United Brake Syst 1 1 6,9 1 01/02/92 03/08/92 US Sprint 1,6 1,3 - - 11/19/90 11/19/90 USWest 1 1 - - 11/14/90 11/14/90 US Windpower, 1 [19] 1 6 - 09/13/91 09/13/91 Livermore CA Wal-Mart Stores Inc 1 1 9 - 05/21/91 05/21/91 Bentonville, AR Weather Channel 1,5,6 1,3 6,9 - 06/01/91 09/08/91 Western Data Corp 1 [8] 1 - - 10/01/90 11/15/90 Weyerhaeuser Corporate HQ & Tech Center, Federal Way WA 1,2,5 1,3,6 3,5,6,9 3 06/01/91 02/01/92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Legend: Test: 1. Piss test 2. Blood test 3. Breathalyzer 4. Statement of Non-use, no other test if not in combination. 5. Mandatory medical, noninvasive or otherwise. 6. Psych Profile test. 10. Other When: 1. Pre-employment 2. Random. 3. Probable cause 4. Existing employees too. 5. Only associated with Govt Contracts. 6. After On-the-job injury. 10. Other Recourse: 1. Automatic retest on first positive 2. Automatic discharge on first positive 3. Retest on request after first positive 4. Mandatory Rehab on first positive 5. Rehab on request after first positive 6. No-hire on first positive. 7. Employer does not disclose result of test. 8. Routine mandatory testing after rehab. 9. No-hire if refused. Other: 1. Medical release required. 2. Insurance reporting release required. 3. Contractors also 4. Testing suspended for legal reasons. 5. Use the lab of your choice. 10. Other ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ****************************************************************************** ***************************** The "GOOD" List ******************************** ****************************************************************************** Companies that DO NOT do Human Quality Testing Company Comment Date ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aldus Corp. 2 11/14/90 Adobe Systems 2 11/20/90 American Software Development Corp. 2 12/05/91 Apple Computers 1 12/01/90 Atlanta Research Group 1 11/11/90 Auspex Systems Inc. 2 12/04/90 Basys Automation Systems 1 05/23/91 Sunnyvale, CA Development Location BBN 2 11/14/90 Blue Mountain Software 2 12/05/90 Barnes & Noble Bookstores 2 08/25/91 Borland Intl. 1 07/02/91 Brooktree Corporation 1 [22] 02/04/92 Carnegie Group, Inc. 2 [16] 02/02/92 Cisco Systems 2 01/06/92 Concordia University 2 12/01/91 Montreal Canada Convex Computer Corp 2 11/14/90 CPU Inc (job shop) 2 06/17/91 Cray Research 2 11/18/90 Dornier Medical Systems, Atlanta GA. 2 11/11/90 Dun & Bradstreet 2 11/11/90 Evans and Sutherland, Salt Lake City, UT 2 09/01/89 Heurikon Corporation, Madison WI 2 01/05/92 ICL, Inc. 2 12/09/90 IntelliGenetics, Inc., Mountain View CA 2 12/01/91 Interactive Systems Corp. 2 11/14/90 Interactive Technology Incorporated 1 09/01/91 Portland, OR Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA 2 01/01/91 Locus Computing 2 11/18/90 Maspar Corp. 2 06/02/91 Mentor Graphics Corporation 1 05/23/91 Microsoft 1 11/17/90 MIPS Computer Systems 2 11/14/90 National Instruments 2 03/05/92 Oracle Corp. 1 06/04/91 Oregon Software 2 09/01/91 Rapid Deployment Systems, Inc, Atlanta GA 1 11/11/90 R/Greenberg Associates, Inc. 2 07/12/91 Santa Cruz Operation 1 [15] 11/21/90 Silicon Graphics 2 [16] 12/04/90 Solbourne Computer 2 [18] 02-01-92 Stratus Computers 2 03/01/92 Sun Microsystems 2 05/23/91 Sun America (Broad, Inc) 2 09/06/91 Tandem Computers 1 [18] 04/09/91 Texas A&M University 2 12/20/91 The Tri-Tech Group, Ltd. 2 12/05/91 West Babylon, NY Thinking Machines Corporation 2 11/20/90 Transarc (Pgh, PA) 2 07/01/91 Western Digital 2 12/04/90 WANG labs 2 11/17/90 The Wollongong Group, Inc 2 06/06/91 Zortech 2 05/01/91 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Comment Legend: 1. There is no testing of any kind and the company has made a public policy statement against any such testing. 2. There is no testing but the company has not made a policy statement public and/or has no policy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes: [1] CEO is Ryal Poppa and is reported to be on personal crusade. Address: 2770 So. 88th St. Louisville, CO, 80027 [2] Dearborn, Mi [3] Georgia Tech Research Institute, the commercial research branch of Georgia Tech. [4] The testing company will re-test *the same sample* on a positive result; if the re-test is positive the candidate is not hired. There is *no* retest from a different sample. [5] Lynchburg, VA. The personnel director is: Larry Langhans [6] Texas Instruments, Lewisville, TX plant, fairly certain that all other Texas plants are also doing it (especially Dallas). [7] tests for: cocaine, amphetamines, pcp, marijuana. only tests for 5-8 substances. If the first test is positive, the sample is subjected to a more detailed test. If both tests are positive, a medical review officer contacts the employee and asks about medication; the employee has an opportunity to have medical review officer call every one of his/her doctors. If medical review officer determines that no legal substance caused a positive test, employee's supervisor and management chain are ntoified. Employee can be sent to mandatory drug counseling and follow-up testing, or fired. On any following positive test, employee will be fired unless department head intervenes. There is a wider range of disciplinary actions than indicated here. [8] contract house: they ask if you will take the test on the application form. I was told that most clients who do not test wish only contract help that is willing to be tested (like requiring the test without performing it). [9] Must sign a waiver giving company rights to use results of test in any way they wish. (I assume this includes sharing the results with other possible employers and/or Insurance Company Data Banks.) [10]Only applicable to `inside' contractors and regular employees. Testing not required for `outside' contractors. [11]Topaz is a subsidiary of Square D corp. [12] CostCo is a wholesale consumer goods store that has signs outside proudly proclaiming that they abuse their employees with piss tests. [13] Each business unit in AT&T sets its own policies. Bell Labs and certain other units do NOT test. [14] Corporate medical director keeps copies of ALL test results. [15] Reliable Rumor has it that SCO is quite a party company! [16] This company has a drug-free environment statement on file but does not test. [17] they run a check on your dmv and if you have failure to appears dui, etc. they don't hire you. [18] Company has an official drug-free workplace statement which prohibits posession or use of illegal drugs on company premises, and prohibits reporting for work while under the influence of any illegal drug or alcohol. No attempt is made to prescribe employees' activities during their off hours. [19] It was asked why they hadn't published their "drug-free workplace" policy in their help-wanted ad, like other companies. The answer: US Windpower doesn't want to foster an image as a "conservative company." [20] Psych. Profile testing is not required for individual contributors. However, a satisfactory Psych. Profile Test is a prerequisite for entry into management. [21] Hewlett-Packard's pre-employment drug testing plans are indefinitely "on hold". That is, we're not doing drug testing now, and we have no definite date when it will be implemented in the future. [recd 01/11/92 JGD] [22] Brooktree is a company that DOES NOT do Human Quality Testing. In fact, every employee is given a plaque with the "Brooktree Values": value #6 reads: "Brooktree believes everyone - including employees, customers, shareholders, and suppliers - should be treated with mutual trust, honesty and respect." Value #7 reads: "Bureaucracy is counter-productive to the efficiency of a rapidly growing company. Systems are created to to facilitate, not complicate, the smooth operation of the business." Value #10 reads: "We believe informality promotes goodwill and leads to a creative and productive environment. Brooktree's operating style is characterized by informal meetings, open doors, frequent on-site social gatherings, comfortable dress, and use of first names." Brooktree has on-site monthly parties with beer, wine and live bands. Beer and wine are also served at "all-employees meetings". [23] Testing is performed before offer is given (ie. offer is contingent upon successful completion of the tests). Unsure as to what recourse is taken if tests are not completed, but it would appear that no consent to testing would prevent an offer of employment from being made. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The vote: Here is the results of my drug use survey as of when this file was shipped. Question: "Would your use of formerly illegal drugs materially change given complete legalization of all drugs?" 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