Subject: Cyberpoet's Guide to Virtual Culture - 3.14.94 - p2/5 Part II of V - 3.14.94 Cyberpoet's Guide to Virtual Culture - -=- 02.Cultural Signposts o Libraries - cyber-repositories of data -o- FTP sites -o- Telnetable Repositories -o- Gopher Space o Museums, galleries, ezines & stuph -o- Art FTP sites -o- Art Centered Elists -o- Ezines -o- Misc Internet Art o Organizations & Gov't -=- 02.Places ------------------------------------------------------ -=- 02.1.Libraries | ------------------------- Like a child who enjoys reading, a cyberpoet will return often to hir favorite net.repository of information and check for new 'books.' Unlike everyday reality [ER], there are thousands of libraries and also unlike ER they are usually less then 100 keystrokes away. No fossil fuel is burned; they are almost never closed; and the cost of use is minimal, undoubtedly a few steps in the right direction. A cyberpoet with a good memory or a handy Personnal Digital Assistant [PDA](such as a Newton, Sharp, or Intelligent Agent) will often be able to list off hir favorite net.repositories upon request. However it is often useful to have a pre-made list of common sites to forward if time is short or the PDA is without batteries. Consider this such a list. -o0 FTP sites 0o- the self service library ~o 141.214.4.135 - UnderWorld Industries - 8.3 format *yuck* =) ~o alfred.carleton.ca pub/freenet/working.papers/ - Volumes of information on Freenets and Internet Use ~o aug3.augsburg.edu /pub/bbs-lists - Lists of BBS's internet and dial-up - also the archives of the Auggie BBS. ~o bertha.pyramid.com - leri, cybernews info - an archive on personal freedom ~o byrd.mu.wvnet.edu /pub/ejvc/ - Electronic journal on virtual culture archives /pub/history - History archives, databases, other... - Some internet History - Mostly political and military now. /pub/merton - Merton-L archives ~o cert.sei.cmu.edu /pub - Computer/Internet Security (those guys in red shirts) - Computer Emergency Response Team FAQ (anti-viral) - virus-l archives ~o coombs.anu.edu.au /coombspapers - a variety of research papers about the 'internet' etc. - some papers on buddhism. ~o dhvx20.csudh.edu /global.net - Toward a truely global network - Archives on networks around the world, mostly 3rd world. (Maybe it's his first time around.) ~o dla.ucop.edu /pub/internet - Library Resources Guide ~o etext.archive.umich.edu - a wealth of text archives - recipient of the most discriptive e-address award ~o ftp.cica.indiana.edu /pub/pc/win3 - Windows software archive Also the home of the ~o ftp.cpsr.org - Tap-Info archives (Ralph Nader's Internet Group) /cpsr/work - CPU: an ezine for cpsr news and info. /cypherpunks - cypherpunks archive ~o ftp.cwru.edu /hermes - Supreme Court ASCII rulings. - Also available thru telnet and gopher. ~o ftp.eff.org - preferred access: gopher - recently reorganized to server you better. - There is no way I could cover all the good stuff available here. It is my suggestion that you spend some time skimming each document to grok its true purpose. - also note that all the zines & journals have been moved to etext.archive.umich.edu and the IRC archive has been moved to ftp.kei.com /pub/irc /pub/Alerts - Up to the minute alerts for the iNet community. /pub/CAF - Computer Academic Freedom Archives /banned - banned books list. /pub/EFF - misc, newsletters & eff Policy /pub/Groups - Info/archives from groups on the outposts.faq /pub/Net_info - Big Dummy Guide, Cyberpoet's Guide and more. /pub/Publications - written material from the likes of - Bruce_Sterling, Esther_Dyson, John_Gilmore, CuD, John_Perry_Barlow, Mike_Godwin, Mitch_Kapor and more ~o ftp.kei.com /pub/irc - irc elist archives. ~o ftp.msstate.edu - History - Africa & Americas - fineart_online (an epub and archives) ~o ftp.nevada.edu /pub/guitar - Guitar Chords, Tablature. ~o ftp.rpi.edu /pub/communications - internet-cmc (also known as the december list). ~o ftp.u.washington.edu [] the alt.cyberpunk archives that used to be maintianed here [] [] are missing. If you know where they are now, please update me [] [] ditto the alt.drugs archives [] /pub/virtual-worlds - a library of information of Virtual Reality ~o ftp.uwp.edu-- - THE central repository for music information - Lyrics, gifs, discographies, etc, etc, etc... o grind.isca.uiowa.edu (128.255.19.233) /info/articles - Academic papers and news articles about hacking /info/hacking - Quotations from "experts" about hackers and hacking /info/jfk - JFK conspiracy files, alt.conspiracy.jfk archives - you can telnet to this ftp site, login iscabbs o KSUVXA.KENT.EDU /library - Acadlist - list of academic elists ~o lysita.lysator.liu.se - many texts (including SF zines and stories) - Magick, religion et al. - Black7 disc. list archives =) ~o media-lab.media.mit.edu /access/ - information concerning the mit media lab in particular, see ProjList, the list of medialab-related projects ~o mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu /pub/etext - Project Gutenberg and other etext holdings (books!) o ftp.cc.ncsu.edu /pub/ncsu/pmc - General files about postmodernism - Avital Ronell Interview - Dead Doll Humility by Kathy Acker - Notes Toward an Un-written Non-Linear Electronic Text "The End of Print Culture" A Work in Progress by Michael Joyce - Play it Again, Pac-Man by Charles Bernstein ~o netcom.com /pub/amcgee/* - leftist, liberal, activism stuff. /pub/fixion - collabrative fiction, but more. /pub/Guides - the Internet Mall (commercial entities on the net) /pub/aleph - Unofficial archive aleph@pyramid.com e-list. /pub/alm - FreeBSD Unix-related files and info /pub/bskendig - programming docs MUF on TinyMUCKs; useful MUF programs /pub/btf - Computer Underground Digest; Funhouse /pub/bverreau - solar eclipse photography; GIF and JPEG images /pub/css - Socially Responsible Investment Oppty. /pub/dwu/InsightsHumor - misc stuff that are funny or insightful /pub/eblade - lpmud and other misc. /pub/fb - TinyMUCK 2.2fb mud server source code, and muf source code. /pub/fdesign - Design & print IFS fractals, advanced features /pub/forge - Documentation and demo files of FORGE product set. /pub/gasman - Quotes, witticisms, etc. stolen from others for YOUR usage. /pub/gleep - Anime pictures, original and just colorized. /pub/imf - Interesting Mac shareware/free /pub/johnl - E-zine-list (list of net-accessible zines); CRASH zine /pub/katbrown - info on Kathleen Brown's Campaign for California Governor /pub/kevitech - Internet Underground Music Archive curent info; cool stuff. /pub/kgreene - Synaesthsorium Archives /pub/lemay - Short stories; mostly horror, gothic /pub/qwerty - Xenon's ftp site. PGP FAQ and "Here's How to MacPGP!" /pub/rone - Miscellaneous files and assorted junque; pictures; News. /pub/sjourney - Oingo Boingo Electronic Newsletter backissues; /pub/totse - Temple of the Screaming Electron BBS /pub/vidgames - Electronic Game FAQ's; Mortal Kombat II; Game Genie /pub/zzyzx - public keyserver; pseudonym registry anon.penet.fi ~o nexus.yorku.ca /pub/Internet-info - Lot's of stuff, including High Weirdness. o nic.funet.fi /pub/culture - Cultural Information o nicco.sscnet.ucla.edu [] Gone! ugh... anyone know any mirrors? [] /pub/papers/ - a course in sociology and cyberspace by Peter Kollock - Mark Smith's masters thesis - virtual center for the study of virtual spaces archives ~o nifty.andrew.cmu.edu /pub/QRD - AIDS info/gay rights info /pub/erotica - like it says... erotica (a fair sized archive too) o oak.oakland.edu - software archive for PCs and UNIX. o obi.std.com /pub/obi - On-Line Text (published works) o ocf.berkeley.edu /pub/Library - lib. of docs, bible, lyrics, etc. o panda1.uottawa.ca pub/religion - Electric Mystics Guide - Much religious stuff o parcftp.xerox.com [] down due to (hacking?) back soon [] /pub/MOO/papers/ - mud-related perspectives on social worlds in vr - stuph. o penguin.gatech.edu pub/leri/articles - Timothy Leary's 8 Circuit Model o pilot.njin.net pub/ftp-list/ftp.list - List of FTP Sites (1992 version) o quartz.rutgers.edu or cathouse.org /pub/humor - text/humor files (tv, sex..) o rtfm.mit.edu - USENET FAQ repository - General Net Info - tends to be a little techie (RFC's and the like) o sulaw.law.su.oz.au /pub/law - Law libraries and legal research. o slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com /pub/loopy - Loopy (Quantum Gravity & String Theory) /pub/magick - Magick, not parlor tricks. /pub/scripture.* - Church of Virtuality/Reality /pub - High Weirdness + Guide to some interesting stuph - The Human Evasion + by Celia Green - Hypertext and Hypermedia: A Selected Bibliography + by Terence Harpold - Principia Discordia + by Malacalypse the Younger - wilson.on.cis + Interview with Robert Anton Wilson - Temporary Autonomous Zones (TAZ) + by hakim Bey + a defining work of virtual space. - New Maps of HyperSpace + Terence McKenna - schizmat + Tom Maddox on Schizmatrix (by B. Sterling) o soda.berkeley.edu /pub/cypherpunks - CryptoAnarchist Manifesto - Cryptography Glossary o sounds.sdsu.edu - sounds archive o sunset.cse.nau.edu - pictures, sounds o sunsite.unc.edu /pub/docs - internet-info /pub/multimedia/OTIS - OTIS archives. o wiretap.spies.com /Clinton - Clinton Public Docs & Speeches o wuarchive.wustl.edu - pictures, sounds -o0 Telnetable Repositories 0o- o CARL telnet pac.carl.org or 192.54.81.128 - Online database, book reviews, magazine fax delivery o FedWorld Gateway telnet fedworld.doc.gov or 192.239.92.201 - Access to some gov't databases, files, libraries, etc. o Hpcwire telnet hpcwire.ans.net (Login: hpcwire) - menu-driven information searches. o InterNIC telnet rs.internic.net - Gopher, WAIS, Whois, finger, book orders, etc o Law Library telnet liberty.uc.wlu.edu (login: lawlib) - State,Computer,Law Library. o LawNet telnet lawnet.law.columbia.edu (login: lawnet) - Law/Judicial info and catalogs access. o Library of Congress telnet locis.loc.gov - lib. of congress, legislative info, and copyright info. o NSSDCA nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov login as "NODIS" no password - online catalog of NASA material o Rutgers CWIS telnet info.rutgers.edu - (CIA World Factbook, Religious/Gov't Texts) - Recommend select LIBRARY - dictionary/thesaurus/familiar-quotations o World Wide Web info.cern.ch - an attempt to build an online hypertext reference work. -o0 Gopher Space 0o- A menu based realm of information access. To use these gopher servers, 'gopher gopher.server.name', (unless otherwise noted) else hunt them down from the global menu. Much gopher stuff is duplicated at ftp sites, and vica versa. o GopherJewels@EINet.net share interesting gopher finds via this elist sub: LISTPROC@EINET.NET msg: sub gopherjewels o gopher ba.com Bell Atlantic Gopher URL="gopher://ba.com/" The seven baby bells have made a gopher to store information about their task force on the future of the baby bells and the information super highway o gopher cns.cscns.com offers: ASCII Clip Art, USA Today, UPI News, Commerce Biz Daily, Classifieds o gopher cypher.esusda.gov location of foundation center libraries and book listing funding info sources o gopher english-server.hss.cmu.edu A variety of info... worth a surf. Lots of links.. almost uptodate o telnet fatty.LAW.cornell.edu (login: gopher) - mucho stuph concerning LAW, legal issues, gov't. o gopher.eff.org - legal issues in cyberspace. privacy, freedom, etc. o telnet GOPHER.GSFC.NASA.GOV (login: gopher) - nasa info & GSFC info (was Nicolas BBS) - images - a selection of internet resources - a selection of internet resources o gopher lan.vita.org 3rd WORLDNETWORK DEVELOPMENT o gopher gopher.mta.ca Mount Allison University Gopher - on-line art Galler o gopher mudhoney.micro.umn.edu - gnews-archive - big archive too o telnet nicol.jvnc.net or telnet 128.121.50.2 (Login: nicol) - Access to internet resources - Elec. Publishing Service (library resources) o gopher peg.cwis.uci.edu 7000 URL: gopher://peg.cwis.uci.edu:7000/11/gopher.welcome/peg/GOPHERS An example of a well organized gopher (kewl stuff too) o gopher una.hh.lib.umich.edu - helpful directories for the Inet - much more stuff (really incredible) o wiretap.spies.com - collection of etexts - white house releases o is.internic.net - alternative: telnet is.internic.net login gopher - pointers to and fulltext of resource guides - information about the internet itself -o0 World Wide Web 0o- Although others would claim that WWW isn't the latest greatest thing on the Internet, it is just beginning to come into wider use (what with the advent of Mosaic at al). So, like a good soldier, I have added this section. It is small now, but with your support, and a keen eye, it will grow fast. Introducing Lynx. The solution too your dialup WWW needs. o Lynx (a textbased WWW server) code available via ftp at ftp2.cc.ukans.edu pub/lynx or try out lynx by telnetting to: ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu ( login: www ) www.twi.tudelft.nl ( login: lynx ) millbrook.lib.rmit.edu.au (login: lynx ) o http://141.214.4.176/uwi/reviews.html - Look here for "What's Hot and Cool" on the Web. o http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/ - a variety of Internet guides here o http://www.eff.org/CAF/cl-index.html - (A live index to "newsy" civil-liberties related Net material) o http://www.ics.uci.edu/~ejw/csr/cyber.html The Cyberspace Report, a radio show aired on KUCI, 88.9 FM o http://www.ncb.gov.sg - Singapore National Computer board o http://nearnet.gnn.com/GNN-ORA.html - O'Reilly & Associates Global Network News o http://solar.rtd.utk.edu/friends/home.html - New Russia-American Friends and Partners o http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo.ticket_office.html A virtual World's Fair that lets you tour exhibits from around the world and, at the end of the day, hop on a computerized shuttle bus for a trip to the official Expo restaurant. o http://tlg.org/ The Little Garden cooperative has a WWW service online, o http://www.ifi.uio.no/~mariusw/nexus/ - Nexus elist info o http://www.wired.com - WiReD magazine o http://zapruder.pds.med.umich.edu/uwi.html - Contains Hot and Cool- pointers and reviews of Web spots - Worth a long look(and probably point you to even cooler sites) -=- 02.2.Museums, galleries & stuph | --------------------------------------- Every subculture has art it can call it's own. Indeed, some would say that without art it would not really be a culture at all. The world of virtual culture is no exception. Civilizations, uncivilized that they are, have been prone to collecting art in museums, supposedly to make public viewing easier. The result, however, is that only a few people see this art every year and the scarcity of this viewing makes the art-world seem elitist. To some extent, this has been replicated in virutal space. However, the medium of the net allows for wider distribution and new spaces for all forms of art. New spaces, even new artforms, pop up all the time and hopefully find their way into this document. This activity seems to be both motivated by and motivating a groundswell in popular art and computer mediated art. -o0 Gopher, FTP & WWW sites 0o- o Agrippa available @ gopher spinaltap.micro.umn.edu o alt.pictures.fine-art.* archives can be found the file ftp uxa.ecn.bgu.edu /pub/fine-art o Amine Info - oinker.ucsb.edu /pub/anime o collection of sci-fi stories - http://tardis.ed.ac.uk/~charlie/fictionhome.html o gopher cs4sun.cs.ttu.edu - Ascii pics and other art o GIF Pictures (general archives) - ahkcus.org - apocalypse.engr.ucf.edu /pub/images - hubcap.clemson.edu /pub - solaria.cc.gatech.edu /pub o Music - ftp.uwp.edu /pub/music + Music (lyrics/discographies/etc.) o mtv www page - www.mtv.com o OTIS (Operative Term Is Stimulate) archives - sunsite.unc.edu /pub/multimedia/pictures/OTIS + original e-art o Spunk Press archive: gopher: o etext.archive.umich.edu:/politics/Spunk AnonFTP: o etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/politics/Spunk WWW: o http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Jack.Jansen/spunk/Spunk_Home.html o Survival Research Laboratories (SRL) Info - ftp.u.washington.edu /public/alt.cyberpunk + info on the industrial robot group [] missing in action - do you know of copies? [] o WAX: The Discovery of Television Among the Bees a film by Davids Blair - ftp.u.washington.edu /public/alt.cyberpunk - reviews and info about David Blair's cyberdelic film [] missing in action - do you know of copies? [] -o0 Art Centered Elists 0o- o FineArt Forum fast@garnet.berkeley.edu - elist on arts on the net and elsewhere o Gibraltar gibraltar-request@maestro.mitre.org - discussion of artistic and progressive music o NetJam netjam-request@xcf.berkeley.edu - MIDI, musc makers, etc. o Phillip K. Dick pkd-list-request@wang.com - list celebrating the famous sf author o Playlist playlist-request@ecst.csuchico.edu - alternative radio/dj playlists and discussion -o0 Ezines 0o- o Armadillo Culture sokay@mitre.org - cool ezine o ArtCom artcomtv@well.sf.ca.us - interfacing art and communicaion - usenet alt.artcom o BLINK - FTP: blink.acns.nwu.edu:/pub/blink - WWW: - http://www.acns.nwu.edu/blink/ - Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us - Issues surrounding the intersection of consciousness and technology. o Computer Underground Digest - An open forum dedicated to sharing information and the presentation and debate of diverse views. - FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/Publications/CuD etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/CuD/cud aql.gatech.edu;/pub/eff/cud ftp.ee.mu.oz.au:/pub/text/CuD (Australia) nic.funet.fi:pub/doc/cud (Finland) ftp.warwick.ac.uk:pub/cud (United Kingdom) o CORE core-journal@eff.org - fictional/essay e-zine - ftp ftp.eff.org for back issues o Crash - Guide to traveling through the underground. Alternative travel stories, hints, and tips. - FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/crash o Drum - Interesting ASCII layout concept. - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Drum - Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us etext.archive.umich.edu o Fact Sheet 5 - the e.version - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Factsheet.Five - Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us etext.archive.umich.edu o Hi-Rez - Electronic Journal for CyberBeatniks - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/CyberPunk/HI-REZ - Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu o Holy Temple of Mass Consumption - strong ties to the finest SubGenius traditions - ftp: quartz.rutgers.edu /pub/journals/HToMC o inter\face - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Interface - Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu o InterText (was Athene) - FTP: network.ucsd.edu:/intertext etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/ - Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu o Line_Noiz_ - ae687@freenet.carleton.ca for info - to sub send email to dodger@fubar.bk.psu.edu - with the body: Subscription LineNoiz o Meta - ftp ftp.netcom.com:/pub/mlinksva - cryptography, electronic publishing, free software development, intellectual property, internet commercialization, privacy and virtual communities. o Morpho_online - etext.archive.umich.edu - alt.cyberpunk o Obscure Electronic - Profiles the people in this publishing subculture - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Obscure.Electric - Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us etext.archive.umich.edu o Parthenogenesis - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Parthenogenesis - Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu o Quanta export.acs.cmu.edu /pub/quanta ftp.eff.org /pub/cud/misc/journals -fiction ezine o Scream Baby ftp.eff.org /pub/journals/ScreamBaby red.css.itd.umich.edu /poli ftp.css.itd.umich.edu /poli o SOUND News and Arts quartz.rutgers.edu /pub/journals - e-version of the popular zine o The Undiscovered Country - the undiscovered country is a netzine regarding life/art/literature/cyberspace/philosophy/etc. - FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/ o UnPlastic News ftp.eff.org /pub/cud/misc/journals o Voices from the net voices-request@andy.bgsu.edu ftp sites for Voices are: etext.archive.umich.edu /pub/Zines/Voices aql.gatech.edu /pub/Zines/Voices_from_the_Net -o0 Misc Internet Art 0o- o Adam Curry's Cyber-Sleaze Report - finger adam@mtv.com or hotlist@mtv.com - worth putting in your .logout file o Coke Machines et al. - finger info or graph@drink.csh.rit.edu - finger coke@cs.cmu.edu + Tap that coke machine. - finger franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca + Random Star Trek quotes. - finger buckmr@rpi.edu + U.S. Top Pop singles for the week. - finger nasanews@space.mit.edu + Nasa daily news briefs - finger normg@halcyon.halcyon.com + Weekly Nielsen TV ratings - internet coffee machine (with Jpeg of coffee) + http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/coffee/coffee.html -=- 02.4.Organizations & Gov't | ------------------------------------- The internet is international, national and pinpoint local; private, public, profit, non-profit, all at the same time. This structure makes it not only unreasonable to impose a government upon the net, but nearly impossible. So when you talk about Gov't on the net, you are talking about the Goverment's attempts to reach out to the net.citizens and, ideally, to listen to them. -o0 The Legislative Branch 0o- o Congress Email/FTP - mail congress@hr.house.gov and ftp ftp.senate.gov - sadly I only found two senators who were using this (Alaska & Mass) o The Congress is in the process of establishing its own electronic public access links. You can get more information from any of the following. Please remember that these are not connected in any way to any White House online projects (due to the separation of powers), so if you have any problems with their systems, you will have to contact their system administrators for assistance. Senate gopher site: gopher ftp.senate.gov Senate ftp site: ftp ftp.senate.gov Library of Congress: telnet locis.loc.gov " " " : ftp seq1.loc.gov " " " : gopher marvel.loc.gov Government documents: gopher esusda.gov Government documents: gopher sunsite.unc.edu -o0 The Executive Branch 0o- The official Party Line: "The White House e-mail system is under construction. This is a new project and suffers from all of the problems common to a startup operation. The Communications office is currently working on defining what this system will do, as well as trying to come up with equipment and staffing to make sure that it works. E-mail messages are currently being printed out and responses are being sent out via US Mail. "Nobody wants this new venture to work more than the staff that has devoted so many hours to getting it up and running. But much time and effort will be required before the system is truly interactive. In the mean time, they will need a little patience from the electronic community. If you send a message to the White House, please include a US Post office address for replies." On the Internet, send to: president@whitehouse.gov or vice.president@whitehouse.gov -o0 Other 0o- o Voice of America ftp ftp.voa.gov gopher gopher.voa.gov - Voice of America Newsfiles (very very interesting. hm?) o FCC (Federal Communications Commision) Open to the public since 2-22-94 ftp ftp.fcc.gov o California Gov's Race ftp ftp.netcom.com - /pub/katbrown - info on Kathleen Brown's Campaign for California Governor -=- 02.5.Organizations | ----------------------------- Home, home on the net. The ability of the Internet to bring people together who share common interests is amazing. Someone may start a mailing list to discuss a local environmental problem, then suddenly someone from halfway around the world joins in and you learn they are having the same problem as well. Before you know it, the mailing list becomes a clearing house for information regarding environmental pollution. That is one sort of organization on the net. Other's join the net with the explicit intention of operating as an Organization. Both are growing in numbers everyday. This is the last time this section will be in the Guide. In the future please refer to the -=> OUTPOSTS <=- on the Electronic Frontier list maintained by Stanton McCandlish . available via ftp from ftp.eff.org or EFF's gopher. OUTPOSTS is posted every 21 days to the groups comp.org.eff.talk alt.politics.datahighway alt.internet.services comp.answers alt.answers news.answers ______ _____ __ __ ______ /\ ___\ /\ __ \ /\ "-.\ \ /\__ _\ \ \ \____\ \ \/\ \\ \ \-. \\/_/\ \/ __ \ \_____\\ \_____\\ \_\\"\_\ \ \_\ /\_\ \/_____/ \/____ / \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ In Part 3 of 5 copyright 1994 John Frost